Thank you for a nice Atmos walkthrough on Mixbus 10. I'm a Mixbus user for years and now enjoying the easy way of making Atmos mixes. Just a little additions to your technical introduction. Mixbus also runs on Linux that is a great platform for audio. This means that Harrison also have made Atmos available to all the Linux users out there.
Great help thanks! I find it ironic that my Roland RSS-8048 3D sound processor is now back in fashion. I’ve never stopped using it since the 90’s! Fantastic fun.
I'm a Cubase Pro user. I find that having both the Stereo and Atmos panners (and output busses) accessible simultaneously to be a very interesting consept. It's, also, a huge timesaver when mixing stereo and Atmos versions of songs (which includes the vast majority of cases). I really hope that Steinberg implements this, as well.
Yes, I think having both mixes accessible at the same time is extremely interesting. It is not what Dolby wants you to do though, so I don't think this approach will make it into other DAWs.
@@michaelgwagner I've sent a mail to Greg Ondo, and asked him to pass it on as a feature request. I guess time will tell. Steinberg (and other manufacturers) shouldn't care what Dolby wants, but what the users than pay for their products wants! Perhaps, if enough users requests this feature....
Nice video that shows exactly what you can do with mixbus in a dolby atmos session, thanks. Another big shortcoming is the impossibility of changing the trim and downmix settings, some customers ask me for settings other than the default setting of the Dolby renderer. If they implement this possibility, the management of the bed and the LFE can become a very interesting DAW for working in Dolby Atmos.
Thank you for that video, so informative! Using Mixbus since Version 2.5 and I am so happy about the Atmos implementation! Though I have to say: I work on the intersection of Movie and Film production and wonder about a workflow without the dolby Atmos Beds. Your hack putting the reverb on the Mixbus is very helpful. Still have to wrap my head around how to use the Mixbusses in a Atmos setup in general..
You could use the Dolby Atmos Composer from Fiedler Audio as an alternative. Because Mixbus 10 has post-fader inserts, this is an extremely convenient workflow as well. I’ll probably do a video about it.
Thanks for the great video 👍 The idea of Dolby Atmos in the Mixbus 10 didn't really convince me. Purchasing a new DAW with the corresponding price is not exactly optimal for me as a hobby user. I prefer Studio One or - that's my favorite workflow - the combination of Spacelab + Dolby Atmos Composer from Fiedler-Audio.😉
It's not something I would buy in addition to what you already have. But it is a very interesting approach for Mixbus owners or anybody who wants a "quick and dirty" entry into Dolby Atmos.
Honestly, I am not sure why Harrison hasn't done what Steinberg did with Cubase and Nuendo. Kill off all the useless mixbus version and make the current Mixbus pro/32c for music and Mixbus Pro for sound for picture and atmos. They have the expertise and the hardware (mp5c) to make it work.
Hallo lieber Österreichischer Kollege, Thank you for the support and the perfect videos you do for us. We wrote them to Harrison. Thank you for the video. But instead of selling your product and praising it so much, you completely forgot to report on what the end result is. Does your Mix Bus 10 plug-in then calculate a Dolby 7.1 or 5.1 mix? Or how do you set it up? Does it also work on Cubase 13? If your plug-in really manages to render a 5.1 or 7.1 Dolby mix, then we'll buy it straight away, because that's all that filmmakers and small production studios urgently need. Because your plug-ins and presets are always only intended for drums and percussionists and generally for old-fashioned stereo products. You don't do anything at all for documentary or feature film producers. So I want to know now whether your Mix Bus 10 Pro is capable of creating and rendering an official Dolby mix, otherwise there's no point in buying it from you and the money would be wasted. Greetings from the cosmopolitan city of international artists and filmmakers, Vienna. Jazzboe Production Vienna
Thanks! Mixbus can’t render out 7.1 or 5.1. It can render 7.1.4. For everything else you could use the Dolby Atmos Renderer. You can use that to render the ADMs Mixbus is creating in any channel layout you want.
@@michaelgwagner Do you know how that loudness meter is implemented. Is it measuring the loudness on the selected format? In Pro Tools you can set the format for the loudness meter in the settings.
Thank you Michael wonderful walkthrough
Thanks!
Thank you for a nice Atmos walkthrough on Mixbus 10. I'm a Mixbus user for years and now enjoying the easy way of making Atmos mixes. Just a little additions to your technical introduction. Mixbus also runs on Linux that is a great platform for audio. This means that Harrison also have made Atmos available to all the Linux users out there.
Thanks fr the note. I was wondering about that but did not have the time to test.
Great help thanks! I find it ironic that my Roland RSS-8048 3D sound processor is now back in fashion. I’ve never stopped using it since the 90’s! Fantastic fun.
Interesting. In some cases it takes a few hype cycles until a technology becomes market ready.
I'm a Cubase Pro user. I find that having both the Stereo and Atmos panners (and output busses) accessible simultaneously to be a very interesting consept. It's, also, a huge timesaver when mixing stereo and Atmos versions of songs (which includes the vast majority of cases). I really hope that Steinberg implements this, as well.
Yes, I think having both mixes accessible at the same time is extremely interesting. It is not what Dolby wants you to do though, so I don't think this approach will make it into other DAWs.
@@michaelgwagner I've sent a mail to Greg Ondo, and asked him to pass it on as a feature request. I guess time will tell.
Steinberg (and other manufacturers) shouldn't care what Dolby wants, but what the users than pay for their products wants! Perhaps, if enough users requests this feature....
Steinberg just wants to sale more products, because Cubase is on the end of the day not good at all, without any other plugins from 3rd Companies.
Quick heads up regarding the comment at 3:56; as opposed to other DAWs you do not need to use a buffersize of 512 sample/cycle with Mixbus.
Interesting, thanks for the note.
Nice video that shows exactly what you can do with mixbus in a dolby atmos session, thanks. Another big shortcoming is the impossibility of changing the trim and downmix settings, some customers ask me for settings other than the default setting of the Dolby renderer. If they implement this possibility, the management of the bed and the LFE can become a very interesting DAW for working in Dolby Atmos.
Interesting point!
Thank you for that video, so informative! Using Mixbus since Version 2.5 and I am so happy about the Atmos implementation! Though I have to say: I work on the intersection of Movie and Film production and wonder about a workflow without the dolby Atmos Beds. Your hack putting the reverb on the Mixbus is very helpful. Still have to wrap my head around how to use the Mixbusses in a Atmos setup in general..
You could use the Dolby Atmos Composer from Fiedler Audio as an alternative. Because Mixbus 10 has post-fader inserts, this is an extremely convenient workflow as well. I’ll probably do a video about it.
So informative... Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
3:21 don't forget Mixbus runs also in Linux, not just in Mac and Win.
Just did a Linux video. 😉
Hi Michael, thanks for the class. Is it possible to perform this operation with native Dolby Atmos from Logic? Grateful!
Thanks for the kind words! If you mean the one button switch between the original stereo and the Atmos, not directly. At least not that I am aware of.
This would be sick if PT and other DAW's adopted this approach!
Flux should be wary if they do
I don't think they would do that though.
@@michaelgwagneryou're probably right haha
Not seeing any LFE send ability.....am I missing something?
No bed in Mixbus, hence no LFE.
So Atmos only? No 5.1 or other surround formats?@@michaelgwagner
Thanks for the great video 👍
The idea of Dolby Atmos in the Mixbus 10 didn't really convince me. Purchasing a new DAW with the corresponding price is not exactly optimal for me as a hobby user. I prefer Studio One or - that's my favorite workflow - the combination of Spacelab + Dolby Atmos Composer from Fiedler-Audio.😉
It's not something I would buy in addition to what you already have. But it is a very interesting approach for Mixbus owners or anybody who wants a "quick and dirty" entry into Dolby Atmos.
Tak you , very god
Thanks! :)
Honestly, I am not sure why Harrison hasn't done what Steinberg did with Cubase and Nuendo.
Kill off all the useless mixbus version and make the current Mixbus pro/32c for music and Mixbus Pro for sound for picture and atmos.
They have the expertise and the hardware (mp5c) to make it work.
Yes, it is a bit of a strange one. 😁
...and Reaper !?!
You can use the free version of the Dolby Atmos Composer by Fiedler Audio in Reaper.
Hallo lieber Österreichischer Kollege,
Thank you for the support and the perfect videos you do for us.
We wrote them to Harrison.
Thank you for the video. But instead of selling your product and praising it so much, you completely forgot to report on what the end result is. Does your Mix Bus 10 plug-in then calculate a Dolby 7.1 or 5.1 mix? Or how do you set it up? Does it also work on Cubase 13? If your plug-in really manages to render a 5.1 or 7.1 Dolby mix, then we'll buy it straight away, because that's all that filmmakers and small production studios urgently need. Because your plug-ins and presets are always only intended for drums and percussionists and generally for old-fashioned stereo products. You don't do anything at all for documentary or feature film producers. So I want to know now whether your Mix Bus 10 Pro is capable of creating and rendering an official Dolby mix, otherwise there's no point in buying it from you and the money would be wasted. Greetings from the cosmopolitan city of international artists and filmmakers, Vienna. Jazzboe Production Vienna
Thanks! Mixbus can’t render out 7.1 or 5.1. It can render 7.1.4. For everything else you could use the Dolby Atmos Renderer. You can use that to render the ADMs Mixbus is creating in any channel layout you want.
@@michaelgwagner How would you measure the loudness in Mixbus 10 if the 5.1 format used for loudness management is not present?
@pesam64 The immersive master bus has a loudness meter.
@@michaelgwagner Do you know how that loudness meter is implemented. Is it measuring the loudness on the selected format? In Pro Tools you can set the format for the loudness meter in the settings.
@pesam64 The manual says the following: “The LUFS measurement is generated from the 5.1 mixdown per ITU BS1770-5 specification.”