They'd have to invest in big infrastructure to create ways to match others fairly, and I don't think they'd ever do that. The CLOSEST I think we could ever get to "pvp" would be something like Warzone/Paincage in PGR, where you're scored against other players on who clears things the fastest and with how much damage taken, or the amount of enemy waves cleared.
But even that favours whales coz they are able to dish out way more damage than a f2p generally, besides genshin is a casual game so i don't think PvP will ever be implemented in genshin.
@@Kanade_Gene That's what people don't understand, genshin is a casual game and yet some of the players are try hard or trying to be competitive to others.
I have experienced it just today. I was doing abyss and 3 slimes(hydro) ganged up on me from all sides and shooter hillichurls continuously freezing me with crossbows. I spent like literal 150 secs trying to just move😭😭
Not really, just made MOBA version of Genshin Impact Use hillacurls as an minions And use the Archon statue as the tower And you forget in the game they can just make matching system C0 against C0 ect C3 against C3 ect C6 against C6 With also the same rank And they can just calculated the characters potential value and make them against the same potential value. So the one make you win will be your skills since you have the same potential with your enemy Also with PVP you wouldn't be able to use 4 characters, you only be able to use 1 characters just like when we do CO OP domain So team work will be usable. And if you going alone and get rapéd that's your fault. If you not going alone. Maybe pyro character can release you from freeze position
Maybe somehow they can implement PvP (or rather, PvEvP) by using trial characters. It can at least show how well they deal with team rotations or maybe positioning
@@BamfCross this is the dumbest take yet lol, then what’s the f**king point of any of the both events that literally make the no money, swear to god this community is brain dead.
PvP would never work in genshin because the combat is not designed for it, the reason why Souls/Borne games work is because everything is designed with both PvP and PvE in mind. Imagine going against Yoimiya, you would die in 2 seconds cause you could never dodge. Even with PvP that's not direct combat with other players like capture the flag would not work.
Yoimiya wouldn’t be a issue since you can sprint and she doesn’t even have resistance to her e. What you should be really worried about is xiao players
Not really, just made MOBA version of Genshin Impact Use hillacurls as an minions And use the Archon statue as the tower And you forget in the game they can just make matching system C0 against C0 ect C3 against C3 ect C6 against C6 With also the same rank And they can just calculated the characters potential value and make them against the same potential value. So the one make you win will be your skills since you have the same potential with your enemy Also yoimiya auto aim mechanism is really sucks dude. Even she can't hit jumping slime or Spectre when it moving lmao Sometimes she hit the one that we don't wanted, like the bat from cicinmage
They already said WAAAY before that PVP won't be in the game. The fact is if PVP is in the game it will be P2W with just whales dominating. People would say well just make it balanced like no constellations and R5 weapons. Well, do you think there won't be any backlash from the whale community that admit it or not is the reason the game has continuous updates? So no. People saying they should add pvp probably never played a gacha game before to know how P2W a gacha pvp is. That's why almost all gacha games don't have PVP.
They can add PvP provided They will give u a bunch of random Characters and u have to choose ur team out of them…Similarly the other guy will do as well (Just like perilious trial event) …So both teams have equal strength and the winner would be the one who could bring out the full potential of his selected team
I'm personally glad that the developers haven't made outrageously hard quests or bosses because it is a gacha system. If you start scaling monsters based on the people who were able to get god-like artifacts, then the people who are still working on building or haven't been as lucky in pulling might get tired of the game. No one would like facing monsters designed for the strongest players if they're not among those rankings.
well i hope mihoyo can develop co op more like tower defense where we got raided buy hundred of monster to the point a single VENTI or 6 MIL EULA DAMAGE will not solving the problem or at least mount device so exploring world more enjoyable
teyvat is believed to be a continent surrounded by water, so Wave Riders will be relevant until Szechnaya comes out (if more waypoints will be added) the best coop they could/already come up with are skill-based coop game (like, upcoming 2.8 GAA boat racing or the previous 1.4 challenges), and RNG slapped into domain challenges (like, the recent Depths Domain and the previous 2.2 Magic-Paper Domain - enemy compositions are random everytime you start a new run)
I'd say it can work if done correctly like, another gacha I play, princess connect re dive. You could have clan battle once a month and a similar thing to battle/princess arena for dailies (where you put a team for defence, and can go higher in ranks by attacking a higher ranked players defense team).
@@imo098765 Um don't think you've played princess connect so a quick explanation, the dailies (when you go against fellow players) are fought using an auto-enabled system and the characters have a certain sequence to follow (thus some characters are great for placing on defense and others for offense). Clan battle is when you and your clan take on difficult enemies together and compete with other clans, here it's not auto so there are timelines that help you get the most damage.
@@Paco_Hipolito its an auto-battler but genshin has great real time 3D action combat Now if you remove that core aspect from the game for an auto-battle feature, doing Spiral with a different team is more fun than watching your team. So how do you get genshins combat into a PVP setup vs AI teams. Its a completely new game
They would have to remove the auto targeting, restrict which characters you can use, make a whole rework of how characters can be played, maybe make a whole new map for pvp, and whole lot of other factors.
The only way to implement an actual decent multiplayer would be a battle royale, each person selects one character they own, which then gets lowered down to C0 also no archons that’s way too cheesed, as well as weapons unless you pick up artifacts and weps from enemies you kill around the map? And make it so the map gets randomly selected from around teyvat in small areas with a max or only 40 people (10 teams), and for winning maybe you can keep an artifact you find in the dungeo or have a random chance of earning one of the artifacts you gained from the battle (better you do better chance of getting the selected artifact) and honestly everyone has or can get a selected 5 star character or has one and even then that might not help the synchronization of the team, but it’s possible you just have to make a base and a build up, add a little gacha in terms of finding weapons/artifacts and there can be some pull them make monthly rewards for battle points and boom people have more ways to obtain resin, mora, artifacts maybe even a couple primo gems here an there as a random chest thing that give out random pools from 10-40 every now and then. Anyways I think it’s possible and would be fun, but I also get people like to not pick on the smallest detail when it barely matters lol. Ps killing Hillichurls is fun and all but I wanna smash player puss bro. Ps x2 also maybe add little care packages that drop Constellations too incentivize combat and that’s an extra facet to dip into for things to look for or ending up creating competition without the need to smash hundreds of dollars lol.
The only way that’s is possible is to make it like injustice or mortal combat where the characters artifact are already pre set with equally balanced stats so you can just pick and choose who you want to play with of course with constellation 0 and maybe best in slot weapons
Genshin characters are mainly designed to require support from other units. Taking that into account PvP would most likely include more than 1 character per side. But the issue is then that there's really no PvP mechanic in genshin, unless they make the "parry" thing from previous patches a thing there. But then there's the question how you would deal with elemental bursts which give you i-frame and insane dmg + skills like Ayatos who would shred since there would have to be recoil upon taking damage. I mean adding this feature is the furthest thing from feasible which is why it is extremely unlikely that Hoyoverse will implement it.
maybe a pvp minigame where no visions are used and with that parry mechanic, but other than that no i dont see any possible pvp options that wouldnt make it p2w af
Making it pvp would mean making a completely new game, cus imagine getting frozen all the time, or some characters like zhonglis ult hit you. That wouldn’t be much fun, plus, you wouldn’t even have to be very good at playing, cus as long you know how the game works, it’s the more you spend the better you are.
They can just nerft zhongli petrified in PVP mode dude This is game, everything run on system, and you can make system as what you wanted. The one that decided will just the WANT or NOT from hoyo developers
making pvp in genshin would probably require changes to a majority of things in the game, like adding immunities so players cant keep the other frozen forever or combo them into oblivion with knockback. mihoyo already has their hands full with stuff like game balancing, event ideas, and making new areas to explore. i wouldnt be surprised if adding pvp would double or even triple their current workload
if it was similar like the first raiden boss where our skills and elemental burst was disabled for all chars (-geo traveler) and we would have only 1* weapons with all dmg doing same for that weapon class and all char cons and talents would be set to 0 with you being able to only bring 1 character to the game it could work but yea would be too much effort for hoyoverse but on real though i would love to have a raid boss instead where the boss has like 1billion health and there would be new boss every week/month and it woyld have different element each week and to make it fair you could make it so it was 4 player co-op possible and each world level would have different difficulty so it would ve fair for everyone and it would give rewards for each tine you fight like ssme reward you get from random events but for killing the boss it would give some prinogems on top of that like honestly i don't even care if rewards are bad as long as there would be a reason to play hard challenges with friends not some event that i forget about few days after it goes away
The only way I can see to add pvp in this game is the implementation of platform mini games or sport games. If people are thinking this type of game should add pvp battles you need to see a closer look on all the non dps characters. The game is fine as it is, if you want pvp there's a ton of games out there...
The closest we could get to pvp is basically any sort of mini game that doesn't let you choose your own characters. Something like the hide and seek game, or some sort of pvp tower defence. Even if players get to choose from all lvl 80 C0 R1 characters, the combat system is not designed for it. Imagine someone uses Venti against you, or long ranged characters like Yoimiya. Or even worse someone with a freeze comp.
What if they had an event where they gave you characters with fixed constellations and you had and option to choose between premade artifact sets. This way we would be able to experience pvp once at least. Imagine using a Beidou counter in perfect time againt another player...that'd be so good.
People mention the fact it'd be p2w and unfair and how it could be toxic But no ones considering how half of this games combat is designed around enemies walking up to you and not ddoging so you can land your supers that have a 2s cutscene before it hits
What pvp was like who can kill the horde of Enemies faster or each player would be granted the same artifacts, same weapons and same teams you just have to need skill
It's funny to see that Tower of Fantasy is implementing a full battleroyale mode in the game and here we are almost 2 years since Genshin was launched and not even a single permanent replayable content was implemented in the game.
They also won't do PvP because the game isn't really set up for that. The closest they could get is competing in a PvE competition with other player. But actual combat between 2 Raiden Shoguns just wouldn't work.
Not really, just made MOBA version of Genshin Impact Use hillacurls as an minions And use the Archon statue as the tower And you forget in the game they can just make matching system C0 against C0 ect C3 against C3 ect C6 against C6 With also the same rank And they can just calculated the characters potential value and make them against the same potential value. So the one make you win will be your skills since you have the same potential with your enemy
@@Santanazation dude any character that deal more than 50k dmg easily kill zhongli in one hit, his shield doesnt even survive 40k dmg,he probably superior againts mobs dmg but he is just a fragile unit if facing damage from players,even a millions HP boss can die in one hit with c0 eula,hutao or any other nuke characters, zhongli just a wet toilet paper in PvP
agreed but not for these reasons. its definitely not because its too hard for players. it would just be impossible. this game has been designed around PVE from the start and switching it up would be impossible. people who spend money would have an insane advantage. also how would health work. players simply dont have enough health. hitboxes would have to be set up and there isnt any reliable systems that could be used for pvp. xiao would be hopping around and you cant even hit them, auto attack bow characters would just dominate. besides, it would just suck. your defininetly overestimating how "fun" pvp would be in this game. it would be the most choppy, pay to win, waste of time ever.
What I look about this game is that it’s non-PVP. Too stressful for me. But one way they could implement it is probably use a “fixed” character , like in trials. That way everyone will have the same stats
I don’t think this game needs pvp but I do think it should have better co-op content like big endgame raid style dungeons that you need to do with a team or stuff like that. I feel like In PC Genshin has the potential to do a lot of awesome things but will always be held back by having to be in mobile too
I imagine if they implement PvP it would be like Honkai where it is based on leaderboard, where you are rewarded based on your ranking. If that is the case, whales would be topping the leaderboard with their c6r5. If you are competing in this, being a f2p in Honkai is a huge pain the ass. But of course, if you only play for the story, it is perfectly fine. Honestly, I can't see Genshin implementing this kind of PvP, if it ever does, to which I hope it doesn't. But i would love a guild system though, where guild members are assigned various tasks for them to complete together, kinda like a mini raid. It would be super cool if they did this, at least we have more things to do. Of course, this is just me being on hopium from how lacking the content currently is.
Why would anyone want a pvp in genshin? Like that goes against everything what Genshin is about. How would someone with awful luck getting good artifact go against someone who has god tier sets and stats. It's better if they do team up against enemies. Maybe do a monolid challenge but instead of killing all enemies, it's protecting the monolid until the time is up.
pvp in genshin will be a ton of work, as they'll have to balance out the entire roster of characters like you can't just auto lock zhongli and hold e and just be invincible. like it's just way too tedious imo, and genshin doesn't really need pvp like it's clearly designed to solely be a pve game so pvp won't ever be a thing.
PvP will not be fair, bcs whales with constalletions and better artifacts (whales refresh resin, so they can basically farm more and get better artifacts in this way). But making smth like contest with trial character in abyss speedrun - it could be nice. In this case everyone will be in same conditions and clear time will depend on player skill and level of understanding game.
yes the effort, they wont do it coz to do pvp they have to be like all stats, skills and everything should be balance and equal for all the characters and many more, they cant even optimize or buff fix characters that has problems ever since they have been release
if they want to go a PvP route, they need to solve the i-frame of Burst because dodging with i-frame is stupid in pvp. also there is some mechanics that will be very broken in the game. Zhongli shield+burst CC will be very broken Aoe characters will be broken, mostly anemo Itto while slow in atk, will be very broken due to his main stats is Def and his burst scales by his Def Yelan will also be broken because she able to deal damage even with shielded enemy the list goes on. also they need to adjust all the 5 star into C2 and 4 star into C6 for fairness you cant win against a whaler
Who expects genshin to have pvp? The game wasn't designed to be pvp. I think that's why they're just making Zzz, because making a new game with better multiplayer features is easier than making a huge overhaul in the game design of Genshin. Though I do wish their coop would be better. I have no incentive playing coop because the bosses are easier solo(because of the multiplier). Have more activities besides ganging up bosses and doing domains.
not even PvEvP in Genshin could never work because in the end the guy with a C6R5 full 5 star character team is always going to destroy the F2P players no matter how skilled
This game would have to be redesigned from the ground up for PvP to work, it’s literally made to be PvE. The combat system doesn’t lend itself well to trying to fight another player across from you, imagine 2 people trying to set up reactions on each lol would be a clusterfuck. Not to mention Pay 2 win would be rampant
i mean, there is no way there can ever be a pvp game mode, because if they do ftp players will be stomped out by whales because they have c6 characters and probably weapons at r5 as well while a ftp like me only has c0 5 stars and 1 5 star weapon that is a book, but if they disable constellations whales will be mad that they spent a lot of money and their characters wont be as strong so a lot of them wont play, and also you gotta take into consideration that zhongli exists and nobody will die if they run him
PvP could work if they made it so there's no artifacts,talents ect everyone was roughly the same level and you chose units based on their kits similar to something like Apex Legends. No one would be stronger, it'd just be a matter of aiming,movement and utilising your faves abilities.
How about they add something like cockfighting from Far Cry 6, give players some sort of balanced thing which only relies on player skills and then turn it into a PVP ?
If they add pvp, imagine they also allowed stealing chests in other worlds, that would destroy the community, it'll be a toxic as gta tryhard community
Not only is it going to favour anyone that spends money, it can get incredibly toxic as well. This game is 100x better being PvE.
Is PVE means Player versus Enemy?
@@Shadow82311 yes
Player vs environment
Well, there are ways to do something like "PvEvP" that would make spending money almost irrelevant
@@raikagemokni5093 no its player vs entertainment
They'd have to invest in big infrastructure to create ways to match others fairly, and I don't think they'd ever do that. The CLOSEST I think we could ever get to "pvp" would be something like Warzone/Paincage in PGR, where you're scored against other players on who clears things the fastest and with how much damage taken, or the amount of enemy waves cleared.
I saw some indonesian streamers who competes in rivals events like this, they use spiral abyss as gaugw
We already have genshin pvp though and it's the community kekw
@@Unforgiving_Eye PKers are the people who start conversations by telling you you have less than half a braincell. I met one of them earlier today.
But even that favours whales coz they are able to dish out way more damage than a f2p generally, besides genshin is a casual game so i don't think PvP will ever be implemented in genshin.
@@Kanade_Gene That's what people don't understand, genshin is a casual game and yet some of the players are try hard or trying to be competitive to others.
imagine someone uses freeze comp to you
i would litterly cry
Nah imagine someone using fifty E skills on you within one second using a cheat engine.
I have experienced it just today. I was doing abyss and 3 slimes(hydro) ganged up on me from all sides and shooter hillichurls continuously freezing me with crossbows. I spent like literal 150 secs trying to just move😭😭
Im scared from ayaka users
Not really, just made MOBA version of Genshin Impact
Use hillacurls as an minions
And use the Archon statue as the tower
And you forget in the game they can just make matching system
C0 against C0 ect
C3 against C3 ect
C6 against C6
With also the same rank
And they can just calculated the characters potential value and make them against the same potential value. So the one make you win will be your skills since you have the same potential with your enemy
Also with PVP you wouldn't be able to use 4 characters, you only be able to use 1 characters just like when we do CO OP domain
So team work will be usable. And if you going alone and get rapéd that's your fault. If you not going alone. Maybe pyro character can release you from freeze position
Yeah, imagine when you use zhongli burst like a 2 second delay for animation and your opponent is already behind you
Maybe somehow they can implement PvP (or rather, PvEvP) by using trial characters. It can at least show how well they deal with team rotations or maybe positioning
But if they start giving out trial characters everyday then who's gonna wish ?
isn't it the same as an event otherwise ?
@@zawardo111 well with trial characters you can't upgrade them or use them in THE REST OF THE GAME so people would still wish
@@luciferyeet5524 they aren't going to create an entire mode that they can't monetize off of
@@BamfCross I never said they were going to make it it theoretical
@@BamfCross this is the dumbest take yet lol, then what’s the f**king point of any of the both events that literally make the no money, swear to god this community is brain dead.
Genshin Impact for me is a comfort game. If I want to play PvP, I have other games available.
Genshin is a combat game
PvP would never work in genshin because the combat is not designed for it, the reason why Souls/Borne games work is because everything is designed with both PvP and PvE in mind. Imagine going against Yoimiya, you would die in 2 seconds cause you could never dodge. Even with PvP that's not direct combat with other players like capture the flag would not work.
You could allways dodge Yoimia.
In pvp , the biggest troubles would be Xiao then Ganyu and then Venti with the rest not being that important.
its cool to have PVP
windtrace
Yoimiya wouldn’t be a issue since you can sprint and she doesn’t even have resistance to her e. What you should be really worried about is xiao players
Not really, just made MOBA version of Genshin Impact
Use hillacurls as an minions
And use the Archon statue as the tower
And you forget in the game they can just make matching system
C0 against C0 ect
C3 against C3 ect
C6 against C6
With also the same rank
And they can just calculated the characters potential value and make them against the same potential value. So the one make you win will be your skills since you have the same potential with your enemy
Also yoimiya auto aim mechanism is really sucks dude. Even she can't hit jumping slime or Spectre when it moving lmao
Sometimes she hit the one that we don't wanted, like the bat from cicinmage
Souls/borne games are literally skill based games so it will always work
And that's a good thing
They already said WAAAY before that PVP won't be in the game. The fact is if PVP is in the game it will be P2W with just whales dominating. People would say well just make it balanced like no constellations and R5 weapons. Well, do you think there won't be any backlash from the whale community that admit it or not is the reason the game has continuous updates? So no. People saying they should add pvp probably never played a gacha game before to know how P2W a gacha pvp is. That's why almost all gacha games don't have PVP.
yeah and imagine using a character with a long burst animation like zhongli, you'll get one shot before the meteor even hits the others
@@Cloudgem. but you’re invincible during the animation?
@@Cloudgem. Plus if you are like fighting a C6 Zhongli who just heals when getting damage. LOL
What if they classed you in content that only only F2P players are allowed in, like what 92% of the playerbase is
@@ChAnTAxR no thats just a terrible idea
Now I need a sweaty gamer meme but it’s MTashed instead
They can add PvP provided They will give u a bunch of random Characters and u have to choose ur team out of them…Similarly the other guy will do as well (Just like perilious trial event) …So both teams have equal strength and the winner would be the one who could bring out the full potential of his selected team
This is a very good way to go about it.
Indeed
The whale will just complain.
@@applel2.043 then big L for the 2 whales that think the game is impossible without c6 ganyu
then what's the point of going about of PvP then. PvP caters your effort/time/money spent in the game vs others' effort/time/money with their account.
I'm personally glad that the developers haven't made outrageously hard quests or bosses because it is a gacha system. If you start scaling monsters based on the people who were able to get god-like artifacts, then the people who are still working on building or haven't been as lucky in pulling might get tired of the game. No one would like facing monsters designed for the strongest players if they're not among those rankings.
That would be amazing actually
well i hope mihoyo can develop co op more
like tower defense where we got raided buy hundred of monster to the point a single VENTI or 6 MIL EULA DAMAGE will not solving the problem
or at least mount device so exploring world more enjoyable
the device might not get strong enough
teyvat is believed to be a continent surrounded by water, so Wave Riders will be relevant until Szechnaya comes out (if more waypoints will be added)
the best coop they could/already come up with are skill-based coop game (like, upcoming 2.8 GAA boat racing or the previous 1.4 challenges), and RNG slapped into domain challenges (like, the recent Depths Domain and the previous 2.2 Magic-Paper Domain - enemy compositions are random everytime you start a new run)
I'd say it can work if done correctly like, another gacha I play, princess connect re dive. You could have clan battle once a month and a similar thing to battle/princess arena for dailies (where you put a team for defence, and can go higher in ranks by attacking a higher ranked players defense team).
So how do you have the ai setup reactions properly and use widsith/tts or any other style of buffing correctly
@@imo098765 Um don't think you've played princess connect so a quick explanation, the dailies (when you go against fellow players) are fought using an auto-enabled system and the characters have a certain sequence to follow (thus some characters are great for placing on defense and others for offense). Clan battle is when you and your clan take on difficult enemies together and compete with other clans, here it's not auto so there are timelines that help you get the most damage.
@@Paco_Hipolito its an auto-battler but genshin has great real time 3D action combat
Now if you remove that core aspect from the game for an auto-battle feature, doing Spiral with a different team is more fun than watching your team.
So how do you get genshins combat into a PVP setup vs AI teams. Its a completely new game
At first glance at the thumbnail i thought," i this a new weapon? I don't remember seeing any leaks about this."
They would have to remove the auto targeting, restrict which characters you can use, make a whole rework of how characters can be played, maybe make a whole new map for pvp, and whole lot of other factors.
they would need to increase character hp by at least 10x. even a 50k hp zhongli could die in a hit
The only way to implement an actual decent multiplayer would be a battle royale, each person selects one character they own, which then gets lowered down to C0 also no archons that’s way too cheesed, as well as weapons unless you pick up artifacts and weps from enemies you kill around the map? And make it so the map gets randomly selected from around teyvat in small areas with a max or only 40 people (10 teams), and for winning maybe you can keep an artifact you find in the dungeo or have a random chance of earning one of the artifacts you gained from the battle (better you do better chance of getting the selected artifact) and honestly everyone has or can get a selected 5 star character or has one and even then that might not help the synchronization of the team, but it’s possible you just have to make a base and a build up, add a little gacha in terms of finding weapons/artifacts and there can be some pull them make monthly rewards for battle points and boom people have more ways to obtain resin, mora, artifacts maybe even a couple primo gems here an there as a random chest thing that give out random pools from 10-40 every now and then. Anyways I think it’s possible and would be fun, but I also get people like to not pick on the smallest detail when it barely matters lol. Ps killing Hillichurls is fun and all but I wanna smash player puss bro. Ps x2 also maybe add little care packages that drop Constellations too incentivize combat and that’s an extra facet to dip into for things to look for or ending up creating competition without the need to smash hundreds of dollars lol.
The only way that’s is possible is to make it like injustice or mortal combat where the characters artifact are already pre set with equally balanced stats so you can just pick and choose who you want to play with of course with constellation 0 and maybe best in slot weapons
bloons td battles style pvp where you fight against waves of mobs and send mob against your opponent
I don’t even like how weak the shadowy husk are
I have pressed the elemental burst one accidentally so many times, if they add PVP my friends would leave me 😅
Genshin characters are mainly designed to require support from other units. Taking that into account PvP would most likely include more than 1 character per side. But the issue is then that there's really no PvP mechanic in genshin, unless they make the "parry" thing from previous patches a thing there. But then there's the question how you would deal with elemental bursts which give you i-frame and insane dmg + skills like Ayatos who would shred since there would have to be recoil upon taking damage. I mean adding this feature is the furthest thing from feasible which is why it is extremely unlikely that Hoyoverse will implement it.
That's not even scratching the surface when units like Zhongli and Noelle exist.
It would also be a similar situation to Epic 7 from what I experienced so far
they should make an spiral abyss-ish feature where it is multiplayer and we get primos with it
Yeah I have seen this problem s in Lords mobile, specifically in Guilds where everyone complains about getting attacked by their own guild members...
The only player competitive event was Windtrace, but that was fun.
If they ever add an actual permanent PvP however, I would quit the game.
a pvp gaccha sounds like a nightmare tbh.
maybe a pvp minigame where no visions are used and with that parry mechanic, but other than that no i dont see any possible pvp options that wouldnt make it p2w af
And we still get a pvp mode 9 months later
Making it pvp would mean making a completely new game, cus imagine getting frozen all the time, or some characters like zhonglis ult hit you. That wouldn’t be much fun, plus, you wouldn’t even have to be very good at playing, cus as long you know how the game works, it’s the more you spend the better you are.
They can just nerft zhongli petrified in PVP mode dude
This is game, everything run on system, and you can make system as what you wanted. The one that decided will just the WANT or NOT from hoyo developers
making pvp in genshin would probably require changes to a majority of things in the game, like adding immunities so players cant keep the other frozen forever or combo them into oblivion with knockback. mihoyo already has their hands full with stuff like game balancing, event ideas, and making new areas to explore. i wouldnt be surprised if adding pvp would double or even triple their current workload
@Nameless King true. It's about competition, but doesn't mean it's always about combat or fighting
Maybe so we don't get rekt by f2pgod
if it was similar like the first raiden boss where our skills and elemental burst was disabled for all chars (-geo traveler) and we would have only 1* weapons with all dmg doing same for that weapon class and all char cons and talents would be set to 0 with you being able to only bring 1 character to the game it could work but yea would be too much effort for hoyoverse but on real though i would love to have a raid boss instead where the boss has like 1billion health and there would be new boss every week/month and it woyld have different element each week and to make it fair you could make it so it was 4 player co-op possible and each world level would have different difficulty so it would ve fair for everyone and it would give rewards for each tine you fight like ssme reward you get from random events but for killing the boss it would give some prinogems on top of that like honestly i don't even care if rewards are bad as long as there would be a reason to play hard challenges with friends not some event that i forget about few days after it goes away
The only way I can see to add pvp in this game is the implementation of platform mini games or sport games. If people are thinking this type of game should add pvp battles you need to see a closer look on all the non dps characters. The game is fine as it is, if you want pvp there's a ton of games out there...
I wish they did that instead of these boring fights like in the new event
I just kill everyone too fast with Venti and Fortnite
The closest we could get to pvp is basically any sort of mini game that doesn't let you choose your own characters. Something like the hide and seek game, or some sort of pvp tower defence. Even if players get to choose from all lvl 80 C0 R1 characters, the combat system is not designed for it. Imagine someone uses Venti against you, or long ranged characters like Yoimiya. Or even worse someone with a freeze comp.
Basicly windchase.
What if they had an event where they gave you characters with fixed constellations and you had and option to choose between premade artifact sets. This way we would be able to experience pvp once at least. Imagine using a Beidou counter in perfect time againt another player...that'd be so good.
if constellations were to be limited and only one or two main character were to be used then pvp wont be toxic
It would just be a who hits first wins
People mention the fact it'd be p2w and unfair and how it could be toxic
But no ones considering how half of this games combat is designed around enemies walking up to you and not ddoging so you can land your supers that have a 2s cutscene before it hits
Maybe it could be fixed like, adjust the stats or make limits or give balanced artifacts and weapons to everyone in pvp but that’s still a problem
It can be a pvp but the constellation must be lock
i was thinking of a pvp like super smash bros, only choose 1 character and with the most equal build to others, like trial char idk
Wait what guy
Yes, we already have that in Honkai. Not really PVP, but we have this thing called leaderboard.
The moment this game has PVP, I'm leaving fr
Just don't play pvp mod, weirdo. Nobody forcing you
Same
What pvp was like who can kill the horde of Enemies faster or each player would be granted the same artifacts, same weapons and same teams you just have to need skill
it'd be so broken because we would just one shot each other
The only way, would be a with standardized artifacts and like 1 bar of stamina. Otherwise, no shot.
Imagine queuing up and getting one-shot by a C6 Yelan....sounds super fun
All they have to do is make 4-6 person raids with bosses that actually take mechanics to beat not just how much $$ you have spent
It's funny to see that Tower of Fantasy is implementing a full battleroyale mode in the game and here we are almost 2 years since Genshin was launched and not even a single permanent replayable content was implemented in the game.
Teapot, fishing and based on leaks a permanent card game with Sumeru all activities designed for casual players
They also won't do PvP because the game isn't really set up for that. The closest they could get is competing in a PvE competition with other player. But actual combat between 2 Raiden Shoguns just wouldn't work.
I wish they made like an abyss for 4 people and youre forces to play with someone or smth
This will not be a reality. Theres no shot.
Well I have a story to tell you...
Imagine having a 17k hp but your raider does 100k… your dead
pvp in genshin would be so scuffed imagine fighting a zhongli lmaoo
This! I believe all the Geo characters would win a fight in every battle because of shields...
nah imagine raiden just fucking oneshots him without any supports
@@Santanazation no but imagine the other person uses a freeze team like what can you even do 💀💀💀
Not really, just made MOBA version of Genshin Impact
Use hillacurls as an minions
And use the Archon statue as the tower
And you forget in the game they can just make matching system
C0 against C0 ect
C3 against C3 ect
C6 against C6
With also the same rank
And they can just calculated the characters potential value and make them against the same potential value. So the one make you win will be your skills since you have the same potential with your enemy
@@Santanazation dude any character that deal more than 50k dmg easily kill zhongli in one hit, his shield doesnt even survive 40k dmg,he probably superior againts mobs dmg but he is just a fragile unit if facing damage from players,even a millions HP boss can die in one hit with c0 eula,hutao or any other nuke characters, zhongli just a wet toilet paper in PvP
Other than making every character either c0 or c2 or c6, it’s impossible. and even if they do cater around f2p to make it fair it won’t be fun
GIGACHAD MTASHED vs BETA MIHOYO
Don't even think about it!
Just because a single character always being judged in terms of power that been compared with most characters.
frozen and tazer team would be meta in pvp
agreed but not for these reasons. its definitely not because its too hard for players. it would just be impossible. this game has been designed around PVE from the start and switching it up would be impossible. people who spend money would have an insane advantage. also how would health work. players simply dont have enough health. hitboxes would have to be set up and there isnt any reliable systems that could be used for pvp. xiao would be hopping around and you cant even hit them, auto attack bow characters would just dominate. besides, it would just suck. your defininetly overestimating how "fun" pvp would be in this game. it would be the most choppy, pay to win, waste of time ever.
What I look about this game is that it’s non-PVP. Too stressful for me.
But one way they could implement it is probably use a “fixed” character , like in trials. That way everyone will have the same stats
So its sorta funny seeing this after the 3.1 livestream
Why what happened?
@@MrStarz-jh7wl They added PvP TCG in Genshin, and it's permanent.
But its not a pvp mode with arpg gameplay
if only they some kind of leaderboard like honkai
I don’t think this game needs pvp but I do think it should have better co-op content like big endgame raid style dungeons that you need to do with a team or stuff like that.
I feel like In PC Genshin has the potential to do a lot of awesome things but will always be held back by having to be in mobile too
I imagine if they implement PvP it would be like Honkai where it is based on leaderboard, where you are rewarded based on your ranking. If that is the case, whales would be topping the leaderboard with their c6r5. If you are competing in this, being a f2p in Honkai is a huge pain the ass. But of course, if you only play for the story, it is perfectly fine. Honestly, I can't see Genshin implementing this kind of PvP, if it ever does, to which I hope it doesn't.
But i would love a guild system though, where guild members are assigned various tasks for them to complete together, kinda like a mini raid. It would be super cool if they did this, at least we have more things to do. Of course, this is just me being on hopium from how lacking the content currently is.
Why would anyone want a pvp in genshin? Like that goes against everything what Genshin is about. How would someone with awful luck getting good artifact go against someone who has god tier sets and stats.
It's better if they do team up against enemies. Maybe do a monolid challenge but instead of killing all enemies, it's protecting the monolid until the time is up.
If pvp were ever in the game it’d just be Diablo immortal
Maybe 1v1 amber fight
pvp in genshin will be a ton of work, as they'll have to balance out the entire roster of characters like you can't just auto lock zhongli and hold e and just be invincible. like it's just way too tedious imo, and genshin doesn't really need pvp like it's clearly designed to solely be a pve game so pvp won't ever be a thing.
I legit would stop playing this game if it ever gone PvP
I do think a 2d fighter like Guilty Gear or DBFZ would be pretty good with Genshin characters.
PvP will not be fair, bcs whales with constalletions and better artifacts (whales refresh resin, so they can basically farm more and get better artifacts in this way).
But making smth like contest with trial character in abyss speedrun - it could be nice. In this case everyone will be in same conditions and clear time will depend on player skill and level of understanding game.
Why there's not PVP battles in Genshin:
Permafreeze exist
yes the effort, they wont do it coz to do pvp they have to be like all stats, skills and everything should be balance and equal for all the characters and many more, they cant even optimize or buff fix characters that has problems ever since they have been release
i mean the thing is they can, but they dont want to, bcuz they promoted the game in the beginning as a rpg open world game,
although pvp in genshin is a bad idea I do like the idea of a spin-off fighting game featuring the genshin characters
The overall combat system is very good its a waste without pvp mode
if they want to go a PvP route, they need to solve the i-frame of Burst because dodging with i-frame is stupid in pvp. also there is some mechanics that will be very broken in the game.
Zhongli shield+burst CC will be very broken
Aoe characters will be broken, mostly anemo
Itto while slow in atk, will be very broken due to his main stats is Def and his burst scales by his Def
Yelan will also be broken because she able to deal damage even with shielded enemy
the list goes on.
also they need to adjust all the 5 star into C2 and 4 star into C6 for fairness
you cant win against a whaler
If there’s ever going to be a pvp it’s gonna be in favor of P2W
everyone would just run double cryo double hydro and permafreeze the other player whoever got their stuff on field faster wins
Who expects genshin to have pvp? The game wasn't designed to be pvp. I think that's why they're just making Zzz, because making a new game with better multiplayer features is easier than making a huge overhaul in the game design of Genshin.
Though I do wish their coop would be better. I have no incentive playing coop because the bosses are easier solo(because of the multiplier). Have more activities besides ganging up bosses and doing domains.
multiplayer is too laggy for it tbh
Because its not needed to begin with
not even PvEvP in Genshin could never work because in the end the guy with a C6R5 full 5 star character team is always going to destroy the F2P players no matter how skilled
This game would have to be redesigned from the ground up for PvP to work, it’s literally made to be PvE. The combat system doesn’t lend itself well to trying to fight another player across from you, imagine 2 people trying to set up reactions on each lol would be a clusterfuck. Not to mention Pay 2 win would be rampant
honestly i dnot think pvp would get into the game just because of reactions like freeze and tazer
well pvp would also just be stupid. A sort of pvevp tournament thing? maybe. but just raw pvp? no.
your character hp is 15k - 20k more or less, an elemental skill of any character hits harder than that lol. that's why there will be no pvp
Can’t they just add friendly pvp without rewards or something
Some communities are PVP no need to find it in the game.
instead of pvp raids seems more plausible
i mean, there is no way there can ever be a pvp game mode, because if they do ftp players will be stomped out by whales because they have c6 characters and probably weapons at r5 as well while a ftp like me only has c0 5 stars and 1 5 star weapon that is a book, but if they disable constellations whales will be mad that they spent a lot of money and their characters wont be as strong so a lot of them wont play, and also you gotta take into consideration that zhongli exists and nobody will die if they run him
if they implemented pvp tank characters like dps kokomi, noelle, zhongli etc would actually get popular. no way they're doing that tho lol
PvP could work if they made it so there's no artifacts,talents ect everyone was roughly the same level and you chose units based on their kits similar to something like Apex Legends. No one would be stronger, it'd just be a matter of aiming,movement and utilising your faves abilities.
No pvp but they should do a bucnh more with coop
Yes like raids or roguelike dungeons
Pvp does not exist because of these two words:
Weapons
Constellations
The thing is…..anybody with max level and max talents with full constellations and an r5 weapon with good artifacts can easily beat your ass at pvp.
How about they add something like cockfighting from Far Cry 6, give players some sort of balanced thing which only relies on player skills and then turn it into a PVP ?
If they add pvp, imagine they also allowed stealing chests in other worlds, that would destroy the community, it'll be a toxic as gta tryhard community
Indirect pvp maybe who can clear spiral abyss the fastest wins.