The fact that Yoda VS King Mickey mainly exists because Ben jokingly said that both Yoda and Mickey were banned from DB makes this episode's quality all the more jarring, but that is anything but a complaint.
While I agree that the Pit vs Sora fight feels anticlimactic, the key beam Sora uses can kill. He and Riku use it on Xemnas at the end of KH2, and he used it against Xeonort at the end of KH3.
Fun fact: The ending where Yoda's clones create more power is meant to be a reference to a scene in KH 3, where some Xehanort clones (I guess?) shoot at him in the same way. Even if it doesn't make sense for Yoda to do it, as a fan of Kingdom Hearts, I thought it was pretty cool that they implemented it. ua-cam.com/users/clipUgxyXxoCHXcYxzYztld4AaABCQ
The reason Pit is flying is because he might have the wings of the three secret treasures equipped during the battle which what happens during the battle with medusa if you do not bring this three secret treasures into the stage.
@@King-ze2kt There is no visible difference in his wings between the before and after putting on secret treasures so we don't know if he had them on before he used the secret treasures.
Well Luke stopping the spells was probably supposed to be Tutaminis but the animation doesn’t make it the most clear. Yoda vs King Mickey was a phenomenal episode the animation was incredible the characters writing was excellent I absolutely loved Yoda and Mickey’s interactions and the usage of Yoda’s character was perfect from his trollish side with hitting Mickey with his cane and laughing to using his legendary quotes in the best way possible and ending it with a fantastic track and really charming Force Ghost ending (with a great Han quote from Mickey) it was just a perfect episode one of if not my favorite season premiere hands down and I’m happy to see you really liked it as well.
@Titano Man XIII Yeah I know season 1 was a different time and it wasn’t the same with repping characters as it is now. I’m happy we’ve come a long way since then just it can be funny to look back on sometimes.
One flaw i think most people tend to overlook with the Sora vs Pit fight is how they tried to justify the speed of both characters by how fast they could react to lightning. To me this is the episode where the research team started devleloping problems with trying to calculate speed. Cause given what they did in the recent cloud vs Link rematch... this to me is where i think the problems started.
Especially the part where they say Sora is faster because he can react to natural lightning... which Pit does multiple times in Uprising. There's even a chapter called LIGHTNING BATTLE where Pit fights a Goddess who can control lightning, turn into lightning and straight up teleport. I'm fine with Pit losing, from what little I know of Sora, he'd completely destroy Pit, but there's no way they missed Pit's multiple lightning dodging feats. They purposefully omitted it for whatever reason and that just comes across as disingenuous.
For the keybeam, it has been used as an attack before but there is a moment in Chain of Memories where its used on Riku by Zexion pretending to be Sora and he says "How can the light hurt you?" indicating that it shouldn't hurt anyone besides something corrupted by darkness. To be fair, this is just a villain trying to mess with Riku but that sentence along with the fact that I don't think its been used on anyone but villains tells me it probably wouldn't kill or even hurt Pit. I also think they grossly overestimated it too but that's just me.
It would be safe to assume thats merely a line, especially given a whole war happened where wielders of light killed each other on the field of war which led to darkness consuming everything. like unironically Zexion was just playing to Riku's emotional insecurity due to his failures of KH1. if a keyblade can kill fellow wielders of light, let alone fellow keyblade wielders formerly on the same side.
It has also been used as an attack by Sora on at least 3 separate occasions... one against Ursula during the KH2 Musicals (which was blocked), one against Xemnas at the climax of KH2 (end of the final boss fight), and one against Xeahnort at the end of KH3... where Xeahnort also did one and they had a small beam-o-war for a bit.
I’m kind of bugged Sora vs Pit never made reference to Chapter 14 with the lightning speed feats in it, or the Great Sacred Treasure outside of the sidebar and info boxes which is weird since it should scale above literal nukes of nature with the Reset Bombs
Even greater than the speed feats in Chapter 14, Chapter 8 (Space Pirates) should've given Pit an insane speed feat. Pit starts out leaving Skyworld (which Chapter 18 shows us is in Earth's atmosphere) and flies into space. Within his 5 minute limitation, he catches up with the Space Pirate Ship, which are stealing stars from constellations. It's never specified which constellations they are, but the closest one to Earth is 4 lightyears away. So Pit flew 4 lightyears in under 5 minutes. Even if we discount that as a one-off thing or say Palutena warped him, on foot he's fast enough to dodge shots from the Laser Staff and outrun the pull of black holes.
It came to me as a suprise on how amazing Yoda vs Mickey was, while my expectations were high, they blew it out of the water. I was exited and hyped in every frame, I genuinely was at the edge of my seat, this truely was a masterful premiere
The thing that bugs me most about Pit v Sora is the end as well. So many wasted options - why not Ragnarok, a REAL attack? Why not Ars Arcanum, to beat away Pit's attacks and close in? Why not end it with a sick Zantetsuken into victory pose with a split Pit? SO many wasted skills.
They actually used Ragnarok for Sora's arsenal during the battle when Pit compliments him that said "You can teleport?! Mind blown!" That's the part when he uses Ragnarok.
@@absollum I can agree that the final part has less impact but that can't be helped since the writers have low imagination overall. As for the limit forms, I think they mentioned it as a popup message, and they don't include them in the battle since those limit forms require outside connections, I don't know if his light, dark, or dual forms are considered to be part of those connections.
@@reannoire4330 limit form is a form that requires no outside help to use. drive forms however as shown with cutscenes (like they very first one they are introduced) don't actually use party members for their transformation
Personally, I can't stand Sora vs Pit, and it's for entirely petty reasons outside of the actual episode. I may be misremembering details since I literally haven't seen the episode or the related Cast episodes in years, but they missed details for Pit they reasonably should not have. The egregious one they missed was him dodging lightning as early as the 1st 5 minutes of Chapter 2, which I believe would have tied him with the speed feat they gave to Sora at the time. Normally I wouldn't care about them bungling something, especially since I don't think anything they missed changed the outcome of the fight, but the reason for it is that they admitted on a Cast episode they started research by playing Kid Icarus Uprising, but they didn't like the controls and stopped, and they clearly picked up research with resources that weren't thorough enough. They didn't do full justice to one of my favorite characters from my favorite game of all time just because they didn't like the controls.
What really killed me is that the same guy said that during his time with Kid Icarus Uprising, he was listening to Kingdom Hearts music. Guess that explains why they missed the parts where Viridi literally states that Phosphora is as fast as lightning, or that Pit flew to the *_constellations_* (which are of course much further from Earth than the Lunar Sanctum they used).
@@greentoonlink flew to the constellations based off the power of another god. like does no one remember how most of the flying done in KIU is the result of gods ergo outside help? hell Phospora is as fast as lightning and sora has been dealing with cannon fodder faster than that in KH3D, which was mentioned in this video, top that off with the close range dome of lasers which would still be faster. the lunar sanctum feat is an actual reaction feat from pit which is more valid for consideration. but yeah, I get being annoyed at the omission of the lightning, but really, using a feat that isn't even a pit specific ability as if that should be something pit can reliably do is stupid
@@spencerc4252 Aah, you're going through old comments *looking* to debate Sora vs Pit. I said it in the other one and I'll say it here: Pit has FTL feats on foot as well, so regardless of "the constellation feat isn't really a Pit feat since it was only done with Palutena's help", which is debatable since Death Battle has used reactions *during* a flight to calc reaction speed (see Mario's "He rode a star going this fast so he could react FTL"'s feat from Mario vs Sonic 2), he's still undeniably faster than lightning, not slower as they claimed. Bringing up Sora at all is trying to start an entirely different argument that I'm really not interested in having. I only ever said Pit could've been researched better.
Why are there tears coming out of my eyes while I listen to this music? Man, this review was awesome. Keep up the good work and can't wait for the review of Samus vs Fett (although it will probably be less cool, just because there isn't that much to talk about imo)
Yod from star war? Mario maker 3 ideas but costumes: Goomba shroom: this causes you to turn into a goomba, you have smaller jumps but deal damage to enemies and players sideways Question mark block suit: your jumps are smaller but if you crouch in the ground, you will become a question mark block Spring suit: you always act like a spring but if you crouch you become a sideways spring Gold shroom: you are invincible but your jumps and speed are decreased Super mario bros. Pow: you can bend anything by hitting it, it acts like hitting a brick, your jump is shorter and you cant jump on enemies Doctor's coat: you can shoot pills that don't ignite but can activate blocks also if you jump on enemies you dont get any bounce Star rod: you get 4 extra but small jumps, can inhale enemies and blow them out to activate blocks (no air blow) Morph ball: you can shoot 5 missiles,infinite lemons ,morph into a ball and 5 bombs, the bombs break blocks and the missiles activate them Poke ball: you can shoot electric bolts to stun enemy stacks, bosses and players also activate blocks Pikmin: there are 7 pikmin, you can choose which one you get and b to throw pikmin (you can only have one pikmin) Red: deals 1 jump of damage per 5 seconds, acts like a fire ball Blue: deals 1 jump of damage per 10 seconds, acts normally when in water and in water night themes Yellow: deals 1 jump of damage per 7 seconds, it can carry items and activate blocks Purple: deals 1 jump of damage, it weighs as much as a muncher, it can trigger pows and destroy blocks just by falling on them White: deals 1 jump of damage per 3 seconds, can survive poison water and destroy munchers Winged: gives you a floatier jump for 10 seconds with a recharge of 5 Rock: deals 1 jump of damage and activates blocks like a orange pow inkling: you can shoot ink balls similarly to links bow that make 3 by 3 ink stains, if you shoot one and it hits the ground it makes a 3 block wide stain but you can activate the inkball earlier by pressing l or r again which affects semisolids and other blocks, if you press down on top of ink you become a squid which makes you clip inside the block you are standing on, you act like you are running in normal ground but like in a cloud in semi solids and other blocks, also water kills you and cleans ink gnw mario: you can teleport 2 block forwards by TAPPING left or right your jump just teleports you half way up and then up, your fire balls also teleport but one block left and right pac man: you lock on to enemies and can dash into them in 8 directions and if you run too fast you destroy enemies that touch your mouth backpack: you cant jump but you can carry items builder suit: you have 5 bricks that you can place anywhere like in story mode suspicious knife: you can go into any pipe (warp or not) and exit another one in the same warp, you have a knife stab and you can make gizmos not work Luma: You can spin and big chunks of blocks get a gravitational pole
My thoughts on these episodes are pretty similar to Nemesis'. Luke vs Harry was bad even by season 1 standards. Sora vs Pit was actually the very first Death Battle I ever watched, and to be honest, it's just okay. I have no nostalgia bias. It's just okay. Yoda vs King Mickey was fucking phenomenal! I can't get over how awesome it was. I just wish every other episode could've been as good.
@@idkwhatmynameshouldbe3219 funny enough. Justin Briner who plays Pit also plays TFS Cloud (Thunderhead) Strife. So basically, Sora beats the f*** out of TFS Cloud just like in the first Kingdom Hearts game (even though Cloud was a bit controlled by Hades).
I hated Sora vs Pit. I just found it slow, boring and didn’t take advantage of either of the characters wide variety of movesets. Overall I would give it a 3/10
@Spongegod - Ominpants Death Battle’s net worth has been estimated to be about 1 million to 3 million dollars. And that’s just off of UA-cam, who knows how much they make off of rooster teeth. Granted, they use a lot of that money on paying employees and other stuff like that, but that would still leave a lot of money. I just feel that Pit vs Sora had a ton of potential to be good but was brought down by the lack of variety and pace of the fight.
He makes a good point. No use of Firea, Blizzardra or Thundra line,, no use of Heal, Drive, Summons, Sora’s flight despite being able too…. It felt like Sora was fighting with one arm behind his back
@Spongegod - Ominpants They still did them dirty, Pit specifically. They don't use HALF his feats and use like 2 of his weapons, the 3 Sacred Treauses once, basically no powers and no Lighting Chariot of Great Sacred Treasure; his strongest weapons wtf
As a huge KH fan and as much as I like the fight, Yoda vs Mickey disappoints me because of how stupid strong KH characters are. Before the video came out, I don’t think a Single KH fan doubted Mickey would win in a complete wash. Also for some reason they compared Mickey’s speed to Roxas’ replica flying through space which makes no sense considering 1) we have no idea where the replica’s starting position was, and 2) it wasn’t Roxas’ heart, it was his replica (we know this because you see his heart leave Sora), and 3) that shouldn’t be comparable to Mickey’s own speed. Mickey could probably move extremely fast anyway given his own feats and it doesn’t change the outcome, but the entire fight is just kinda weird when you know both of the source material so well. What they basically did was Goku vs Naruto, love it or hate it Naruto would lose 100% of the time
... 1) the replicas starting position is likely the radiant garden given that's where the replicas Demyx dropped off were last seen, 2) the replica needed to have a heart in order to do what it did to begin with ... seeing as it was a lifeless doll before (or it was launched prior but nothing really exists to tell us that is the case and if that were the case the end result would be the same so the speed would still be roughly accurate unless it was fired way earlier which again no info on), 3) Xemnas dodged the feat, meaning assuming if the roxas feat is valid, Xemnas dodges it and mickey and him are shown able to clash and fight on par with each other and with no reason to assume Xemnas would hold back on him, they are ergo comparable. the real objection should be we have no idea where its starting position is relative to the keyblade graveyard, as it could have crossed those 3 star systems, or just a different region of space all together as stellar bodies aren't exactly locked in position.
When i learned king mickey had time manipulation and ultma, i thought the yoda vs mickey fight would end with mickey stopping time and using ultma. Im so happy i was wrong.
pretty sure the keybeam has been used offensively before. like unironically it was the attack that felled Twilight Xemnas in canon. I really don't understand with how popular the second game was in this series people are unaware of that. technically Sora could have just unmade pit, he has done it too himself before
@@Dangangela6565 I don't see where I said anything that would have gotten that response. I was saying that the method of Xemnas's death was keybeam, that was the canon event.
In Pit vs Sora, they mention how Sora dodges real lightning... but forget that Pit does too. In like the 2nd Chapter. He flies through a storm generated by Medusa and the Underworld Army.
@@Dangangela6565 I mean the person still raises a valid point, like they brought it up specifically with sora and even brought up in the blackbox he dodged faster yet they don't mention the times that Pit has done it. even if sora is faster which he definitely is ... based on death battles assessment at least, it is an odd ommision for the episode.
Not only that, they ignored when Pit flew from Skyworld to the constellations. It's never specified which constellations he reaches, but even if we assume it's the closest one to Earth, that's a distance of 4 light years traveled in under 5 minutes. Or that he can dodge shots fired from the Laser Staff, which by their logic in other episodes is a light speed feat, and on foot can outrun the pull generated by black holes. Whether Sora still wins or not, Pit was done extremely dirty.
@@greentoonlink let me know when he does that with his own wings or the 3 sacred treasures ... cause that constellation feat is only achieved via outside help. which good for pit, still slower than KH2 sora, and outrunning a black hole? Im pretty sure there are multiple KH boss fights where sora actively avoids being pulled into a blackhole mid flight, and then one of him just outright ignoring a blackhole. we can agree pit could have been given more, but by that logic, sora could easily have been given more, like more of his magic, more of his feats, like honestly, them not calcing the dome of lasers feat alone is more of a sign that they really wanted it to seem closer
@@spencerc4252 Not entirely sure why you're going into "Sora's better and here's why" mode when I'm only saying them claiming Pit is slower than lightning when he has clear FTL feats, on foot, without Palu's help, was egregious. They acknowledge his actual speed in the "Pit Vs Zagreus" Death Battle Cast at least.
@@greentoonlink because he doesn't have FTL flight speeds period, on ground is a seperate matter that overall is meaninglessness, I am adding the soda is better information because it's just another example of DBs omission of information to make a battle seem closer than it actually was
Out of curiosity, what did you think of Snake vs Sam Fisher? Just asking cuz it's one of my personal faves and I'm not sure if you ever talked about it. (I'm also asking everyone else in the comments section too)
It's probably my favorite, either that or Balrog Vs TJ Combo. Even though there are a lot of good episodes with series that mean a lot to me (like King Mickey Vs Yoda) those two episodes are just so good.
@@SomeWeeboLoser both characters are far more well known for their 3d incarnations and it wouldve allowed for more interesting use of their arsenals, imo
@@joozhuah8017 Danny and Jake are both most well known for their cartoons and Danny VS Jake wasn't hand drawn. Plus the matchup doesn't feel 3D worth imo.
I personally feel like kingdom hearts vs star wars is a mis match of verses because Kingdom hearts absolutely stomps star wars but then again death battle doesn't know how to scale beyond universal and doesn't apparently know there's infinite speeds and beyond
I'm gonna need some kind of context for "Cosmic Death Vagina" because as someone who doesn't know anything about Fate this is the most confusing thing I've ever heard.
@@Level-iy5ye Immature brats trained to be the top killers in their profession wielding unique laser swords while fighting solely for their own wants and motivations
@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 that is a really good MU not even gonna deny that but if it’s not a composite like Yoda versus king Mickey I think that’s the better MU
I'm unsure if I want this because of how much I love both these games but... The Ghost (Hollow Knight) vs Captain Olimar (Pikmin) Funnily, Olimar wins.
@@Level-iy5ye did you listen to the vaginal thing this dude was talking about? That's as weird as it gets, if you ignore the genderbending of famous male figures to create more waifus, and the fact the world building of FATE relies on multiverses that can, and may not, break reality. Imagine Russia but most of the people there are wolf people in civilized clothing.
@@Level-iy5ye welcome to FATE my friend. There is a core to all this chaos. The World of Mages result from Divine Spirits and other magical creatures used to live on earth during the age of Gods. Think of when Heracles was born and the reign of Gilgamesh as a core basis of when the Age of Gods take place. These beings leave the world when humans become technologically advanced there's no need for these beings. Mages didn't like this and continue to practice magecraft to the modern era of the FATE Universe. This is when everything splits off into all of the stories made by everyone to make fun stories, all the while understanding the core of the Natsuverse.
Even though I don't like Sora VS Pit as a matchup. The episode is good for what it is. There's stuff I liked and stuff I don't like. I still wish Pit got a better matchup. Hopefully, Pit can come back with a good, or even great matchup. Which will probably be never. Hopefully, the other Kid Icarus characters can get good matchups.
@@notwesley9180 I'm more surprised that Pit didn't fight Link because out of all the characters they could have had Pit fight instead of Link, why Sora? I once literally called Sora VS Pit "Disney Captain N VS Angel Dante" and someone told me that wasn't inaccurate. I know that doesn't mean that it's accurate but still. Plus the first Kid Icarus game was somewhat inspired by the first Legend of Zelda game.
The Luke Skywalker VS Harry Potter fight was very unfair in my opinion. It was an obvious stomp. I wish we could get someone harder for Luke and someone easier for Harry. For example: Luke Skywalker VS Naruto Harry Potter VS Marnie Piper
As a person who's favourite franchise is Harry Potter, I really want some more representation on Death Battle Hermione vs Katniss Everdeen as an underrated example.😊
Luke vs. Harry was the first Death Battle I remember not actually liking at all. later on, I turned on other episodes, but man, it just was so obviously bad.
I fucking despise Luke vs Harry so much, as a big Harry Potter fan I just feel insulted on how unnecessarily stupid and shithouse this episode was. Easily my least favorite, this review was great though. That death still haunts me
Harry should have won that imo. Especially with the star feat they gave Mickey. Dedalus Deagle summoned a shower of shooting stars over the Skies of Britain in the very first chapter of the first book.
The fact that Yoda VS King Mickey mainly exists because Ben jokingly said that both Yoda and Mickey were banned from DB makes this episode's quality all the more jarring, but that is anything but a complaint.
Still a better Kingdom Hearts matchup than the last one that they did (and by that I mean it's actually good).
Yeah as a kingdom hearts fan, I can admit things can get too stupid sometimes
@Spongegod - Ominpants true we are all xehanort or sora after all
As a Kingdom Hearts fan, I can admit I love the "stupidity" of the series and wouldn't have it any other way.
@@Jokerke12 same
Thats the magic of KH
That’s what I love about it.
Also, *69th Like*
While I agree that the Pit vs Sora fight feels anticlimactic, the key beam Sora uses can kill. He and Riku use it on Xemnas at the end of KH2, and he used it against Xeonort at the end of KH3.
We also see it used as an attack against Ursula during KH2... though she blocks it.
Fun fact: The ending where Yoda's clones create more power is meant to be a reference to a scene in KH 3, where some Xehanort clones (I guess?) shoot at him in the same way. Even if it doesn't make sense for Yoda to do it, as a fan of Kingdom Hearts, I thought it was pretty cool that they implemented it. ua-cam.com/users/clipUgxyXxoCHXcYxzYztld4AaABCQ
The reason Pit is flying is because he might have the wings of the three secret treasures equipped during the battle which what happens during the battle with medusa if you do not bring this three secret treasures into the stage.
He equips them later in the fight
@@King-ze2kt There is no visible difference in his wings between the before and after putting on secret treasures so we don't know if he had them on before he used the secret treasures.
Well Luke stopping the spells was probably supposed to be Tutaminis but the animation doesn’t make it the most clear.
Yoda vs King Mickey was a phenomenal episode the animation was incredible the characters writing was excellent I absolutely loved Yoda and Mickey’s interactions and the usage of Yoda’s character was perfect from his trollish side with hitting Mickey with his cane and laughing to using his legendary quotes in the best way possible and ending it with a fantastic track and really charming Force Ghost ending (with a great Han quote from Mickey) it was just a perfect episode one of if not my favorite season premiere hands down and I’m happy to see you really liked it as well.
Still find it hilarious that Harry's first response to Luke is to use the Killing Curse...like with no hesitation
@@EndlessMalice Yeah I always found him spamming the killing curse multiple times pretty funny with how it conflicts with his character so much.
@Titano Man XIII Yeah I know season 1 was a different time and it wasn’t the same with repping characters as it is now. I’m happy we’ve come a long way since then just it can be funny to look back on sometimes.
Glad I'm not the only one who got squeamish at Harry's head getting ripped apart via his scar, it honestly looks so ugly and weird and raw.
One flaw i think most people tend to overlook with the Sora vs Pit fight is how they tried to justify the speed of both characters by how fast they could react to lightning. To me this is the episode where the research team started devleloping problems with trying to calculate speed. Cause given what they did in the recent cloud vs Link rematch... this to me is where i think the problems started.
Especially the part where they say Sora is faster because he can react to natural lightning... which Pit does multiple times in Uprising. There's even a chapter called LIGHTNING BATTLE where Pit fights a Goddess who can control lightning, turn into lightning and straight up teleport. I'm fine with Pit losing, from what little I know of Sora, he'd completely destroy Pit, but there's no way they missed Pit's multiple lightning dodging feats. They purposefully omitted it for whatever reason and that just comes across as disingenuous.
@@Erik-gp3il well sure but sora has reated to light as well so still faster but i admit its lame that they just ignored a few of pits feats
Man's about to make me start tearing up from the description of the end of a Death Battle
Man I can’t wait for Yoda, Luke and Pit vs Mickey, Harry and Sora for the next time on Death Battle and Batman with the Hellbat to end up winning
Thats not the timeline we live in.
Voy a matarlos a todos al final y sobretodo al sobrevalorado de Batman con el hellbat.
yeah yoda vs mickey is pretty decent innit
You’re late on this but I’m glad you’re back.
1:24 I see what you did there. Nice.
Nemesis: At least Fate doesn't have giant keys for weapons.
Abigail Williams: *sweats*
For the keybeam, it has been used as an attack before but there is a moment in Chain of Memories where its used on Riku by Zexion pretending to be Sora and he says "How can the light hurt you?" indicating that it shouldn't hurt anyone besides something corrupted by darkness. To be fair, this is just a villain trying to mess with Riku but that sentence along with the fact that I don't think its been used on anyone but villains tells me it probably wouldn't kill or even hurt Pit. I also think they grossly overestimated it too but that's just me.
It would be safe to assume thats merely a line, especially given a whole war happened where wielders of light killed each other on the field of war which led to darkness consuming everything. like unironically Zexion was just playing to Riku's emotional insecurity due to his failures of KH1. if a keyblade can kill fellow wielders of light, let alone fellow keyblade wielders formerly on the same side.
It has also been used as an attack by Sora on at least 3 separate occasions... one against Ursula during the KH2 Musicals (which was blocked), one against Xemnas at the climax of KH2 (end of the final boss fight), and one against Xeahnort at the end of KH3... where Xeahnort also did one and they had a small beam-o-war for a bit.
well idk it kind feels like that wasnst actually a condition and even if it did all beings have light and drakness
Sora vs Pit killed my comfort character. Still an alright episode.
5:20 actually, sora does use that as a attack as the finishing move for KH2’s final boss
I should point out that technically, the attack Sora used to finish off Pit WAS used as an attack in Kingdom Hearts 2.
Yep, just not one you can use on command.
I’m kind of bugged Sora vs Pit never made reference to Chapter 14 with the lightning speed feats in it, or the Great Sacred Treasure outside of the sidebar and info boxes which is weird since it should scale above literal nukes of nature with the Reset Bombs
Even greater than the speed feats in Chapter 14, Chapter 8 (Space Pirates) should've given Pit an insane speed feat.
Pit starts out leaving Skyworld (which Chapter 18 shows us is in Earth's atmosphere) and flies into space. Within his 5 minute limitation, he catches up with the Space Pirate Ship, which are stealing stars from constellations. It's never specified which constellations they are, but the closest one to Earth is 4 lightyears away. So Pit flew 4 lightyears in under 5 minutes.
Even if we discount that as a one-off thing or say Palutena warped him, on foot he's fast enough to dodge shots from the Laser Staff and outrun the pull of black holes.
It came to me as a suprise on how amazing Yoda vs Mickey was, while my expectations were high, they blew it out of the water. I was exited and hyped in every frame, I genuinely was at the edge of my seat, this truely was a masterful premiere
Luke stomped Harry in the ERB, in my opinion at least
Cap Harry spit flames like he was breathing out incendio spells
"At least when I slither in a sister, she isn't mine" is easily one of the best bars, you cappin
7:54 🎵ULTIMA🎵
Death.
The thing that bugs me most about Pit v Sora is the end as well. So many wasted options - why not Ragnarok, a REAL attack? Why not Ars Arcanum, to beat away Pit's attacks and close in? Why not end it with a sick Zantetsuken into victory pose with a split Pit?
SO many wasted skills.
They actually used Ragnarok for Sora's arsenal during the battle when Pit compliments him that said "You can teleport?! Mind blown!" That's the part when he uses Ragnarok.
Have Sora enter one of his limit forms when Pit uses the Regalia. The death battle just ends, and it feels so unsatisfying.
@@absollum I can agree that the final part has less impact but that can't be helped since the writers have low imagination overall. As for the limit forms, I think they mentioned it as a popup message, and they don't include them in the battle since those limit forms require outside connections, I don't know if his light, dark, or dual forms are considered to be part of those connections.
@@reannoire4330 limit form is a form that requires no outside help to use. drive forms however as shown with cutscenes (like they very first one they are introduced) don't actually use party members for their transformation
@@supermario9650 fair enough, though the rest of my point still stands
saw this in my recommended, said "huh. how'd i miss this one?" then i checked the vid and it was fucking uploaded 10 minutes ago
Yoda may have used jedi meditation to reach Mickeys heart dive and the ship is just a mind construct.
Methinks that Sora Vs Pit would’ve been better if Sora went limit form
Me thinks Sora VS Pit shouldn't have happened to begin with.
@@Dangangela6565 ya it makes me feel bad for Pit.
Personally, I can't stand Sora vs Pit, and it's for entirely petty reasons outside of the actual episode. I may be misremembering details since I literally haven't seen the episode or the related Cast episodes in years, but they missed details for Pit they reasonably should not have. The egregious one they missed was him dodging lightning as early as the 1st 5 minutes of Chapter 2, which I believe would have tied him with the speed feat they gave to Sora at the time. Normally I wouldn't care about them bungling something, especially since I don't think anything they missed changed the outcome of the fight, but the reason for it is that they admitted on a Cast episode they started research by playing Kid Icarus Uprising, but they didn't like the controls and stopped, and they clearly picked up research with resources that weren't thorough enough. They didn't do full justice to one of my favorite characters from my favorite game of all time just because they didn't like the controls.
What really killed me is that the same guy said that during his time with Kid Icarus Uprising, he was listening to Kingdom Hearts music. Guess that explains why they missed the parts where Viridi literally states that Phosphora is as fast as lightning, or that Pit flew to the *_constellations_* (which are of course much further from Earth than the Lunar Sanctum they used).
@@greentoonlink flew to the constellations based off the power of another god. like does no one remember how most of the flying done in KIU is the result of gods ergo outside help? hell Phospora is as fast as lightning and sora has been dealing with cannon fodder faster than that in KH3D, which was mentioned in this video, top that off with the close range dome of lasers which would still be faster. the lunar sanctum feat is an actual reaction feat from pit which is more valid for consideration. but yeah, I get being annoyed at the omission of the lightning, but really, using a feat that isn't even a pit specific ability as if that should be something pit can reliably do is stupid
@@spencerc4252 Aah, you're going through old comments *looking* to debate Sora vs Pit.
I said it in the other one and I'll say it here: Pit has FTL feats on foot as well, so regardless of "the constellation feat isn't really a Pit feat since it was only done with Palutena's help", which is debatable since Death Battle has used reactions *during* a flight to calc reaction speed (see Mario's "He rode a star going this fast so he could react FTL"'s feat from Mario vs Sonic 2), he's still undeniably faster than lightning, not slower as they claimed.
Bringing up Sora at all is trying to start an entirely different argument that I'm really not interested in having. I only ever said Pit could've been researched better.
Double upload damn
WAIT WTF! THE GIANT DEATH WHAT? I need some context on this
Why are there tears coming out of my eyes while I listen to this music?
Man, this review was awesome. Keep up the good work and can't wait for the review of Samus vs Fett (although it will probably be less cool, just because there isn't that much to talk about imo)
Yod from star war?
Mario maker 3 ideas but costumes:
Goomba shroom: this causes you to turn into a goomba, you have smaller jumps but deal damage to enemies and players sideways
Question mark block suit: your jumps are smaller but if you crouch in the ground, you will become a question mark block
Spring suit: you always act like a spring but if you crouch you become a sideways spring
Gold shroom: you are invincible but your jumps and speed are decreased
Super mario bros. Pow: you can bend anything by hitting it, it acts like hitting a brick, your jump is shorter and you cant jump on enemies
Doctor's coat: you can shoot pills that don't ignite but can activate blocks also if you jump on enemies you dont get any bounce
Star rod: you get 4 extra but small jumps, can inhale enemies and blow them out to activate blocks (no air blow)
Morph ball: you can shoot 5 missiles,infinite lemons ,morph into a ball and 5 bombs, the bombs break blocks and the missiles activate them
Poke ball: you can shoot electric bolts to stun enemy stacks, bosses and players also activate blocks
Pikmin: there are 7 pikmin, you can choose which one you get and b to throw pikmin (you can only have one pikmin)
Red: deals 1 jump of damage per 5 seconds, acts like a fire ball
Blue: deals 1 jump of damage per 10 seconds, acts normally when in water and in water night themes
Yellow: deals 1 jump of damage per 7 seconds, it can carry items and activate blocks
Purple: deals 1 jump of damage, it weighs as much as a muncher, it can trigger pows and destroy blocks just by falling on them
White: deals 1 jump of damage per 3 seconds, can survive poison water and destroy munchers
Winged: gives you a floatier jump for 10 seconds with a recharge of 5
Rock: deals 1 jump of damage and activates blocks like a orange pow
inkling: you can shoot ink balls similarly to links bow that make 3 by 3 ink stains, if you shoot one and it hits the ground it makes a 3 block wide stain but you can activate the inkball earlier by pressing l or r again which affects semisolids and other blocks, if you press down on top of ink you become a squid which makes you clip inside the block you are standing on, you act like you are running in normal ground but like in a cloud in semi solids and other blocks, also water kills you and cleans ink
gnw mario: you can teleport 2 block forwards by TAPPING left or right
your jump just teleports you half way up and then up, your fire balls also teleport but one block left and right
pac man: you lock on to enemies and can dash into them in 8 directions and if you run too fast you destroy enemies that touch your mouth
backpack: you cant jump but you can carry items
builder suit: you have 5 bricks that you can place anywhere like in story mode
suspicious knife: you can go into any pipe (warp or not) and exit another one in the same warp, you have a knife stab and you can make gizmos not work
Luma:
You can spin and big chunks of blocks get a gravitational pole
Please do a list on anime characters you want to see get a deathbattle and who would be great matches for them
I believe half of the list would be filled by Fate series
@@mani_bhai_101 Fate is essentially a fighting game anime. It's filled with every anime character stereotypes ever
My thoughts on these episodes are pretty similar to Nemesis'. Luke vs Harry was bad even by season 1 standards. Sora vs Pit was actually the very first Death Battle I ever watched, and to be honest, it's just okay. I have no nostalgia bias. It's just okay. Yoda vs King Mickey was fucking phenomenal! I can't get over how awesome it was. I just wish every other episode could've been as good.
My first death battle was a deathpool episode, BUT YOU CAN GUESS WHICH OOOOOOONE
@@caiobarreto6550 Deathstroke vs Deadpool? That's a good one.
"Yeah Sora vs Pit is kinda underrated, I wonder wh- WAIT SORA WAS KIRITO?!
10/10 LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOO"
and pit was deku.
@@idkwhatmynameshouldbe3219 I have no idea how to feel about that.
@@SomeWeeboLoser made me root for him.
@@idkwhatmynameshouldbe3219 funny enough. Justin Briner who plays Pit also plays TFS Cloud (Thunderhead) Strife. So basically, Sora beats the f*** out of TFS Cloud just like in the first Kingdom Hearts game (even though Cloud was a bit controlled by Hades).
I hated Sora vs Pit. I just found it slow, boring and didn’t take advantage of either of the characters wide variety of movesets. Overall
I would give it a 3/10
@Spongegod - Ominpants it’s called an opinion. I personally found that it didn’t take a well enough advantage of either character’s moveset.
@Spongegod - Ominpants but they could show a lot more than what was shown.
@Spongegod - Ominpants Death Battle’s net worth has been estimated to be about 1 million to 3 million dollars. And that’s just off of UA-cam, who knows how much they make off of rooster teeth. Granted, they use a lot of that money on paying employees and other stuff like that, but that would still leave a lot of money. I just feel that Pit vs Sora had a ton of potential to be good but was brought down by the lack of variety and pace of the fight.
He makes a good point. No use of Firea, Blizzardra or Thundra line,, no use of Heal, Drive, Summons, Sora’s flight despite being able too…. It felt like Sora was fighting with one arm behind his back
@Spongegod - Ominpants They still did them dirty, Pit specifically. They don't use HALF his feats and use like 2 of his weapons, the 3 Sacred Treauses once, basically no powers and no Lighting Chariot of Great Sacred Treasure; his strongest weapons wtf
12:50 Damn that edit caught me off guard 😂
As a huge KH fan and as much as I like the fight, Yoda vs Mickey disappoints me because of how stupid strong KH characters are. Before the video came out, I don’t think a Single KH fan doubted Mickey would win in a complete wash. Also for some reason they compared Mickey’s speed to Roxas’ replica flying through space which makes no sense considering 1) we have no idea where the replica’s starting position was, and 2) it wasn’t Roxas’ heart, it was his replica (we know this because you see his heart leave Sora), and 3) that shouldn’t be comparable to Mickey’s own speed. Mickey could probably move extremely fast anyway given his own feats and it doesn’t change the outcome, but the entire fight is just kinda weird when you know both of the source material so well. What they basically did was Goku vs Naruto, love it or hate it Naruto would lose 100% of the time
... 1) the replicas starting position is likely the radiant garden given that's where the replicas Demyx dropped off were last seen, 2) the replica needed to have a heart in order to do what it did to begin with ... seeing as it was a lifeless doll before (or it was launched prior but nothing really exists to tell us that is the case and if that were the case the end result would be the same so the speed would still be roughly accurate unless it was fired way earlier which again no info on), 3) Xemnas dodged the feat, meaning assuming if the roxas feat is valid, Xemnas dodges it and mickey and him are shown able to clash and fight on par with each other and with no reason to assume Xemnas would hold back on him, they are ergo comparable. the real objection should be we have no idea where its starting position is relative to the keyblade graveyard, as it could have crossed those 3 star systems, or just a different region of space all together as stellar bodies aren't exactly locked in position.
I never realised that all the mentor themed battles were Naruto
When i learned king mickey had time manipulation and ultma, i thought the yoda vs mickey fight would end with mickey stopping time and using ultma. Im so happy i was wrong.
This was AWESOME
pretty sure the keybeam has been used offensively before. like unironically it was the attack that felled Twilight Xemnas in canon. I really don't understand with how popular the second game was in this series people are unaware of that. technically Sora could have just unmade pit, he has done it too himself before
@@Dangangela6565 I don't see where I said anything that would have gotten that response. I was saying that the method of Xemnas's death was keybeam, that was the canon event.
In Pit vs Sora, they mention how Sora dodges real lightning... but forget that Pit does too. In like the 2nd Chapter. He flies through a storm generated by Medusa and the Underworld Army.
@@Dangangela6565 I mean the person still raises a valid point, like they brought it up specifically with sora and even brought up in the blackbox he dodged faster yet they don't mention the times that Pit has done it. even if sora is faster which he definitely is ... based on death battles assessment at least, it is an odd ommision for the episode.
Not only that, they ignored when Pit flew from Skyworld to the constellations. It's never specified which constellations he reaches, but even if we assume it's the closest one to Earth, that's a distance of 4 light years traveled in under 5 minutes.
Or that he can dodge shots fired from the Laser Staff, which by their logic in other episodes is a light speed feat, and on foot can outrun the pull generated by black holes.
Whether Sora still wins or not, Pit was done extremely dirty.
@@greentoonlink let me know when he does that with his own wings or the 3 sacred treasures ... cause that constellation feat is only achieved via outside help. which good for pit, still slower than KH2 sora, and outrunning a black hole? Im pretty sure there are multiple KH boss fights where sora actively avoids being pulled into a blackhole mid flight, and then one of him just outright ignoring a blackhole. we can agree pit could have been given more, but by that logic, sora could easily have been given more, like more of his magic, more of his feats, like honestly, them not calcing the dome of lasers feat alone is more of a sign that they really wanted it to seem closer
@@spencerc4252 Not entirely sure why you're going into "Sora's better and here's why" mode when I'm only saying them claiming Pit is slower than lightning when he has clear FTL feats, on foot, without Palu's help, was egregious.
They acknowledge his actual speed in the "Pit Vs Zagreus" Death Battle Cast at least.
@@greentoonlink because he doesn't have FTL flight speeds period, on ground is a seperate matter that overall is meaninglessness, I am adding the soda is better information because it's just another example of DBs omission of information to make a battle seem closer than it actually was
I only clicked on this video because Pit was on the thumbnail.
Yeah, Kid Icarus is a fantastic game. Really wish we could get a sequel
Ah yes, Heaven's Hole, such a weird servant/beast
07:28 oh shoot! I didn't noticed until now!
Out of curiosity, what did you think of Snake vs Sam Fisher? Just asking cuz it's one of my personal faves and I'm not sure if you ever talked about it. (I'm also asking everyone else in the comments section too)
Snake vs Sam is incredible. At least, that's my opinion of the episode.
One of my favorite episodes in the series
It's probably my favorite, either that or Balrog Vs TJ Combo. Even though there are a lot of good episodes with series that mean a lot to me (like King Mickey Vs Yoda) those two episodes are just so good.
More Star Wars Ideas
Han Solo vs Usagi II
Emperor Palpatine vs Xehanort
Darth Maul vs Carnage
Rey vs Ahsoka
Kylo Ren vs Adam Taurus
Nah, Adam Taurus would be a more fitting opponent for Kylo Ren.
@@Randomixx-xm1ml I pefer Cinder Fall but ok I replace Cinder Falls with Adam Taurus
Han Solo vs Shrek tho...
@@alexbaribeault No
@@alexbaribeault Shrek and Donkey vs sully and Mike
Pit vs Sora should’ve been 3d
Nah, there's no reason for it to be 3D.
@@SomeWeeboLoser both characters are far more well known for their 3d incarnations and it wouldve allowed for more interesting use of their arsenals, imo
@@joozhuah8017 Danny and Jake are both most well known for their cartoons and Danny VS Jake wasn't hand drawn. Plus the matchup doesn't feel 3D worth imo.
We need to make a vote for Nemesis to be Edgy Yoda on the next star wars like review
Yodickey wasnt my favorite of the season but a great way to start the season. Prob my second favorite premiere ever behind Miles v Static.
1:18 Wait, I thought Luke won. Did you mean that you didn't think *Harry* got stomped as much as a lot of people claim?
That was in reference to the Epic Rap Battle, lol. 'twas a fake-out.
Here is my take on them:
Luke vs Harry: 4/10.
Sora vs Pit: 7/10.
Yoda vs King Mickey: 10/10.
I personally feel like kingdom hearts vs star wars is a mis match of verses because Kingdom hearts absolutely stomps star wars but then again death battle doesn't know how to scale beyond universal and doesn't apparently know there's infinite speeds and beyond
Yeah, Star Wars almost became universal but then that project got canceled when Disney bough LucasFilm
Jar Jar Binks solos Kingdom Hearts before breakfast
@@albertthepeacock8020 right, I completely forgot about JarJar's massively multiversal feat
@@King-ze2kt are you kidding me ?😂
I'm gonna need some kind of context for "Cosmic Death Vagina" because as someone who doesn't know anything about Fate this is the most confusing thing I've ever heard.
Travis Touchdown vs Kylo Ren
Kylo doesn't stand a chance against him
What do they have in common ?
@@Level-iy5ye Immature brats trained to be the top killers in their profession wielding unique laser swords while fighting solely for their own wants and motivations
@@t5hammer871 Why not Jack from MadWorld since people want that one to be a Episode ?
@@Level-iy5ye I have no idea who that is I'm afraid.
Wish Sora and Pit was 3d
Yes I like that mu.
I'm fine with Dark Pit vs Roxas but it's not my favorite mu's for both
I wish Death Battle would stop doing the youngest design for some of the characters like Pitt vs Sora should’ve been his KH2 or KH3 look.
Kindom Hearts 3 didn't even have trailers at the time, also those are his KH2 clothes just on his Chain of Memories sprites.
@@davidlussier8316 ua-cam.com/video/6ojIgAIl3jE/v-deo.html
@@davidlussier8316 Next month was E3 and it had plenty of trailers. They could’ve waited to do the fight.
@@shrooms847 At the time, Sora's kh2 outfit was more iconic than his kh3 outfit so it made more sense for them to use it.
Poor Pit.
12:51
(Still doing this)
Gandolf=ganondorf?
Sora vs Pit is now canon in smash
3:38 hey that rhymes this guy is dr ssuse
I like this episode-
But Yoda VS Meta Knight is one of my dream MU's so I was abit disappointed when
Mokey Mose showed up
A better Death Battle would have been Mickey vs Bugs Bunny, but honestly i give this episode 8/10
Your right normal Mickey vs Bugs is a lot better than Normal Mickey vs Yoda. King Mickey vs Bugs however makes no sense.
@@magnej1520 I mean Composite Mickey vs Composite Bugs Bunny
@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 that is a really good MU not even gonna deny that but if it’s not a composite like Yoda versus king Mickey I think that’s the better MU
I think that'll be coming still.
Bugs really stomps Mickey, Mickey has no chance unless you use Kingdom Hearts but even then Bugs just erases him.
I'm unsure if I want this because of how much I love both these games but...
The Ghost (Hollow Knight) vs Captain Olimar (Pikmin)
Funnily, Olimar wins.
I'll give it to you. FATE gets weird when it wants to.
How weird are we talking about it ?
@@Level-iy5ye did you listen to the vaginal thing this dude was talking about? That's as weird as it gets, if you ignore the genderbending of famous male figures to create more waifus, and the fact the world building of FATE relies on multiverses that can, and may not, break reality. Imagine Russia but most of the people there are wolf people in civilized clothing.
@@ren_suzugamori1427 I feel like the Writers pull things out of their ass at times
@@Level-iy5ye welcome to FATE my friend. There is a core to all this chaos. The World of Mages result from Divine Spirits and other magical creatures used to live on earth during the age of Gods. Think of when Heracles was born and the reign of Gilgamesh as a core basis of when the Age of Gods take place. These beings leave the world when humans become technologically advanced there's no need for these beings. Mages didn't like this and continue to practice magecraft to the modern era of the FATE Universe. This is when everything splits off into all of the stories made by everyone to make fun stories, all the while understanding the core of the Natsuverse.
@@ren_suzugamori1427 The writing of Fates remind me that one episode of south park were they make fun of inception
Can you rank all the female characters in deathbattle from weakest to strongest and do the same for alll the male characters that got deathbattles.
I always that Harry was naked and it weirded me out
That is hilarious
Even though I don't like Sora VS Pit as a matchup. The episode is good for what it is. There's stuff I liked and stuff I don't like. I still wish Pit got a better matchup. Hopefully, Pit can come back with a good, or even great matchup. Which will probably be never. Hopefully, the other Kid Icarus characters can get good matchups.
I'm still sad link didn't fight pit. Link vs Pit would've been a cool match
@@notwesley9180 I'm more surprised that Pit didn't fight Link because out of all the characters they could have had Pit fight instead of Link, why Sora? I once literally called Sora VS Pit "Disney Captain N VS Angel Dante" and someone told me that wasn't inaccurate. I know that doesn't mean that it's accurate but still. Plus the first Kid Icarus game was somewhat inspired by the first Legend of Zelda game.
The Luke Skywalker VS Harry Potter fight was very unfair in my opinion. It was an obvious stomp. I wish we could get someone harder for Luke and someone easier for Harry. For example:
Luke Skywalker VS Naruto
Harry Potter VS Marnie Piper
As a person who's favourite franchise is Harry Potter, I really want some more representation on Death Battle
Hermione vs Katniss Everdeen as an underrated example.😊
Luke vs. Harry was the first Death Battle I remember not actually liking at all. later on, I turned on other episodes, but man, it just was so obviously bad.
Best weapon ever
Do you know what the funniest thing about it you Gave a 10/10 to Mickey Mouse death battle
I fucking despise Luke vs Harry so much, as a big Harry Potter fan I just feel insulted on how unnecessarily stupid and shithouse this episode was. Easily my least favorite, this review was great though.
That death still haunts me
Harry should have won that imo. Especially with the star feat they gave Mickey. Dedalus Deagle summoned a shower of shooting stars over the Skies of Britain in the very first chapter of the first book.
@@cinchro they obviously weren’t Star level, if they were the whole earth would have been blown to smitherines
@@magnej1520 why would they want to blow it up? They live there lol but he did clear away rain clouds and made shooting stars appear over Britain
"This must mean That Cable! Is Booster Gold's heartless!"
'Unlike Venom VS Crona and Link VS Cloud (2012) were they decided: "Oh ok, I guess it's time to die." *SPLAT* Lol
Boba Fett isn’t a Star Wars character
Go to sleep
Than where did he come ?
Huh, I never noticed King Mickey was holding his Keyblade wrong. Oh well, it doesn’t really bother me much.