Yeah I'll be interested to see how popular the 1300 GS actually is out on the roads… it's coming out at a time when most people have less money than usual (but I guess most of the older owners will perhaps not be as affected by rising costs?)
You didn’t mention the indicator function in cruise control, that’s the coolest thing! Allows the cc to return to set speed once it’s caught up with the vehicle you’re passing. I had the 21 9GT and have just upgraded to a GT+ it’s brilliant!
I love the evolution of the tracer, much more than the other triples, of which I have two. With the exception of the scuba mask dash, which they’ve thankfully changed, I think it’s refined its strengths. They could have changed the bike completely, but I feel each iteration has just “matured” a bit instead. 👍🤪🏳️🌈 or I could be way off 😵💫
Can we have some more content pls. It's midweek and at this stage I don't care if it's a review of your fridge! Ride 1250 rs and drive new kn*b colored 2 series, thanks to your review. I'm looking for an oil filled radiator if it helps! 🙂
Great review mate, I really enjoyed it!!! Can I ask how this Tracer would compare to your MT10 accelerating from 0 - 100kmh, would there be much difference?
@@specialcircs depends if you like the gs or not I don’t like the boxer engine I dont like the weight or size of them I don’t like the cost I’m not a fan of the weight and power loss of shaft drive I generally don’t like the folk that own them in relation to other bikers but this is more so speaking on the 1250 I tried one and thought it was garbage maybe the 1300 is a turning point but I doubt it
Hi Tim, great review and looked like you went on some roughish country roads. How did you find the suspension in terms of absorbing rough surfaces effectively. A mate of mine has the previous model and he and other members of our ride group found the semi active suspension very hard (front) or way too soft with nothing in between. Very frustrating and he has not been able to resolve it. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks, Jon
It's been a while since I rode it to be honest, but I don't remember finding the bike overly firm at either end! Certainly not enough that I called it out. Hmm...
@timrodierides how does this compare to the SAS you had? I currently run a 22 SAS and have ridden the older tracer, but I'm curious and want the ride a GT+, I ran an XSR900 anniversary edition for a few years, so know thd engine well, but don't want to feel underwhelmed in comparison to the SAS torque, power and refinement wise etc
I'd like to know the same. Currently ride a 2023 1290 SAS but am thinking to move away from Adventure bikes. I only ride on the road and cover circa 12K a year.
I’ve spoken to a few owners now, and they’ve said the paint oxidizes and comes off in radom areas on the bike. That’s a no go for me for how much it costs. It also doesn’t have hill hold control. Not needed but why not considering everything else it has? Weird.
@@Steve-motorcycles doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist, I’ve seen pictures too. This bike was on my short list, what a shame. The AT has a known paint problems too. It’s either reliable jap bikes with shotty paint jobs or european bikes with good paint jobs with shotty reliability. Pick your poison.
The finish on my Tracer 9GT is very poor. Despite regular washing and applications of ACF50 after one winter I had a lot of corrosion. The dealer agreed to support a warranty claim but Yamaha weren't interested. I will not be buying another Yamaha.
The Tracer - but it's not a huge difference for me. The only reason the MT10 isn't comfy is the seat - it's fine for an hour but it starts to hurt a bit after that.
It's a very capable bike and I've done 8k miles on it but the poor finish on my 2022 Tracer 9GT means that I won't be buying another Yamaha. I washed my bike regularly and used ACF50 but it didn't make any difference - after one winter it looks like a 10 year old bike in places. That cost me £13k. Paying £15k for the same bike with a couple of extra electronics is ludicrous.
i wonder if Triumph are going to make the Tiger 900 a bit peppier for 2024, 95 BHP at the moment - as this kicks it's butt a bit.........pretty tempting.......
To be fair the Triumph's engine has to work off-road (low down grunt, flat torque curve), whereas the Yamaha can be a bit wilder because there's not a version with knobbly tyres/21" front wheel. But as a result… the Yamaha is way more exciting
Also the reason for the bhp of the tiger is so it can be restricted and rode on a a2 even though at a2 power and the weight of the thing it wouldn’t pull the skin off a rice pud
Hi Tim Just bought new 9gt plus amd felt the suspension is hard at speed as am straight off a tracer 7 with a bad spin... Can you help me on setting up the suspension?
I know where you're coming from, but I've never had to stress about chain maintenance on a tour. I just give it a wee lube if it's been chucking it down. If the bike has a centre stand it's even less faff.
As a lot of bikes are now 1300cc+ and an entry level bike is 400cc, 900cc is near middle weight considering it used to be entry=125cc, middle weight= 750cc and 1000cc was the full fat. The middle ground bias being on the high side is about the same comparing, its about recalibrating your expectations with modern bikes.
No shaft drive so that’s an immediate none starter I really think UA-cam reviewers just skip over the entire chain maintenance item on such comparisons, many manufacturers are failing to meet such demand. Euro 5 killed the FJR Yamaha need a replacement only then would I consider looking in Yamahas direction again. Done my time with oilers & carrying chain lube on tour so Explorer 12 next time possibly but we’ll see what the 1300 RT looks like.
love the Yamaha tracer , had one a few years ago , triple engine is an absolute peach ...first bike I ever noticed the upper second power band
Nice and nice review
This bike is now on my list to replace the 1250GS (don't like the new 1300)
Thanks
That’s both of us then!
Yeah I'll be interested to see how popular the 1300 GS actually is out on the roads… it's coming out at a time when most people have less money than usual (but I guess most of the older owners will perhaps not be as affected by rising costs?)
@@timrodieridesThink the GSA be the one to watch, just saw @nothingtoprove video the cockpit view on the new GS isn’t much of a looker.
@@ImJensenKing agree - it looks gawky and well, just plain wrong
Nice bike for the money, I do love a triple. Can’t get over those head lights tho.
That bike looks like an absolute blast to ride.
You didn’t mention the indicator function in cruise control, that’s the coolest thing! Allows the cc to return to set speed once it’s caught up with the vehicle you’re passing. I had the 21 9GT and have just upgraded to a GT+ it’s brilliant!
Excellent review, keep up the good work
Thanks so much - glad you liked it!
Looks like you’ve woken up to how good Yamaha bikes can be. Try the MT09SP. such a fun bike.
that’s next…
What's with the hand waving - would you prefer no handlebars
Interesting bike. Just goes to prove that Yamaha can innovate as well as the Euros.
I love the evolution of the tracer, much more than the other triples, of which I have two. With the exception of the scuba mask dash, which they’ve thankfully changed, I think it’s refined its strengths. They could have changed the bike completely, but I feel each iteration has just “matured” a bit instead. 👍🤪🏳️🌈 or I could be way off 😵💫
Can we have some more content pls. It's midweek and at this stage I don't care if it's a review of your fridge! Ride 1250 rs and drive new kn*b colored 2 series, thanks to your review. I'm looking for an oil filled radiator if it helps! 🙂
I'm on hols for a week, but will be back at it soon! Thank you for the kind words - hope you're enjoying the 2 Series (and RS)
Great review mate, I really enjoyed it!!! Can I ask how this Tracer would compare to your MT10 accelerating from 0 - 100kmh, would there be much difference?
Not much, around 0.5 sec difference
@@moonchipss thanks!
Excellent video. Going to buy the new Tracer 9GT in August or September.
For the price of a multi v4s new 1300 gs etc you could get one of these and a t7 world raid and be better on and off road 😂
Good point and I reckon 99% of GS owners never take their bikes off road anyhow. Do you genuinely think this is as good as the new 1300 GS?
@@specialcircs depends if you like the gs or not I don’t like the boxer engine I dont like the weight or size of them I don’t like the cost I’m not a fan of the weight and power loss of shaft drive I generally don’t like the folk that own them in relation to other bikers but this is more so speaking on the 1250 I tried one and thought it was garbage maybe the 1300 is a turning point but I doubt it
The two downfalls for me are the non-self cancelling indicators and the short service intervals but I found it otherwise a fantastic bike.
6k service intervals? Same as any BMW.
@@inked-96 Yeah, 6k is about as short as I could tolerate.
@@stonkerontheroad9609 it's 4K in America 😅
New GS beater?
It’s a different type of bike really but if you’re considering a GS for road use only… this is definitely worth a look
@@timrodierides that would be like 98% of GS users then Tim - me included!
Hi Tim, great review and looked like you went on some roughish country roads. How did you find the suspension in terms of absorbing rough surfaces effectively. A mate of mine has the previous model and he and other members of our ride group found the semi active suspension very hard (front) or way too soft with nothing in between. Very frustrating and he has not been able to resolve it. What are your thoughts on this?
Thanks, Jon
It's been a while since I rode it to be honest, but I don't remember finding the bike overly firm at either end! Certainly not enough that I called it out. Hmm...
Thanks for that Tim - I guess a test ride over rough roads will confirm either way.@@timrodierides
@timrodierides how does this compare to the SAS you had? I currently run a 22 SAS and have ridden the older tracer, but I'm curious and want the ride a GT+, I ran an XSR900 anniversary edition for a few years, so know thd engine well, but don't want to feel underwhelmed in comparison to the SAS torque, power and refinement wise etc
I'd like to know the same. Currently ride a 2023 1290 SAS but am thinking to move away from Adventure bikes. I only ride on the road and cover circa 12K a year.
I’ve spoken to a few owners now, and they’ve said the paint oxidizes and comes off in radom areas on the bike. That’s a no go for me for how much it costs. It also doesn’t have hill hold control. Not needed but why not considering everything else it has? Weird.
I never had or seen that issue. In fact, that’s the first I’ve heard of anyone that has.
@@Steve-motorcycles doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist, I’ve seen pictures too. This bike was on my short list, what a shame. The AT has a known paint problems too. It’s either reliable jap bikes with shotty paint jobs or european bikes with good paint jobs with shotty reliability. Pick your poison.
@@OmnislashVince great, this what I like to hear/read. Perhaps a few got off the line with sub par QA.
The finish on my Tracer 9GT is very poor. Despite regular washing and applications of ACF50 after one winter I had a lot of corrosion. The dealer agreed to support a warranty claim but Yamaha weren't interested. I will not be buying another Yamaha.
A Test without the cases, Thank you
I would, but I filmed this 1.5 years ago! I just borrowed the bike from Yamaha for a few weeks :)
Hi Tim, between the 2024 tracer and the mt10, which one is more comfortable to ride? I'm around 6'1"
@@OmnislashVince Thank you Vince. I know I need to go and sit on them both.
The Tracer - but it's not a huge difference for me. The only reason the MT10 isn't comfy is the seat - it's fine for an hour but it starts to hurt a bit after that.
@@timrodierides thank you Tim. I'm on the fence between the 2024 tracer and the 24 Mt 10.
Does not look that bad iro value (or fun) next to the 16k+ Multistrada V2S Travel (& this from a Streetfighter owner)
It's a very capable bike and I've done 8k miles on it but the poor finish on my 2022 Tracer 9GT means that I won't be buying another Yamaha. I washed my bike regularly and used ACF50 but it didn't make any difference - after one winter it looks like a 10 year old bike in places. That cost me £13k. Paying £15k for the same bike with a couple of extra electronics is ludicrous.
Which parts look 10 yrs old?
@@moonchipss All the black anodised parts plus the rear shock
Is there a quick shift indicator on the TFT stating when the operator can/ cannot use w/o pawing the clutch lever?
TY & cheers!
🤜🤛
I am getting the GT+.
Good by ktm..
Tracer 2024 is perfect for me.
Congratulations, you're now 55+ years old
I really want to test ride this bike. And I really don't want to. In case I really like it. And think about swapping my Z1000SX for it.
i wonder if Triumph are going to make the Tiger 900 a bit peppier for 2024, 95 BHP at the moment - as this kicks it's butt a bit.........pretty tempting.......
To be fair the Triumph's engine has to work off-road (low down grunt, flat torque curve), whereas the Yamaha can be a bit wilder because there's not a version with knobbly tyres/21" front wheel. But as a result… the Yamaha is way more exciting
@@timrodieridesthey just need to chuck a better engine in the 660 sport they used to have the 1050
Also the reason for the bhp of the tiger is so it can be restricted and rode on a a2 even though at a2 power and the weight of the thing it wouldn’t pull the skin off a rice pud
@@DucatiDale yeah that’s crazy making it a2 capable.
Nice Bike, but please keep your hands on the bars instead of " conducting the band " when riding !!
@@RichardFrost-du7sc nope!
Triple 👀
Tri-wang gang
Hi Tim
Just bought new 9gt plus amd felt the suspension is hard at speed as am straight off a tracer 7 with a bad spin...
Can you help me on setting up the suspension?
Anchidaibu !
Arigato
I am now torn.
a real tourer has shaft drive like a fjr gtr kawasaki etc
I know where you're coming from, but I've never had to stress about chain maintenance on a tour. I just give it a wee lube if it's been chucking it down. If the bike has a centre stand it's even less faff.
@@timrodieridesits not the stress shaft drive just better and like the riding with it
Because you're lazy and can't be arse lubing a chain on tour 🥱@solidsnake3861
Flush the brakes, 100% better. And yes, there was air
I will never agree with calling a 900cc bike a "middleweight".
As a lot of bikes are now 1300cc+ and an entry level bike is 400cc, 900cc is near middle weight considering it used to be entry=125cc, middle weight= 750cc and 1000cc was the full fat. The middle ground bias being on the high side is about the same comparing, its about recalibrating your expectations with modern bikes.
Assisted brakes ffs 😂
All it needs is shaft drive.
Lazy!
No shaft drive so that’s an immediate none starter I really think UA-cam reviewers just skip over the entire chain maintenance item on such comparisons, many manufacturers are failing to meet such demand. Euro 5 killed the FJR Yamaha need a replacement only then would I consider looking in Yamahas direction again. Done my time with oilers & carrying chain lube on tour so Explorer 12 next time possibly but we’ll see what the 1300 RT looks like.
I’ve only ever had chain drive bikes and it’s never bothered me…
Go ride it on bad pavement and you'll change your glowing review. This bike rides way too harsh on softest setting.
@@mem5922 why would I ride it on a pavement? What’s wrong with the road? Crazy Americans 😜
What?