The Face ID sensor, speakers and front facing camera can’t fit with this design so it’s impossible. Also spatial video will not be possible. This design is only for the air. The pro models will be the exact same as last year. They keep the same design for 3 years
Thank you for the update, I might keep my iPhone 16 pro max few more years, I might just need some accessories and a new case to get it going, any advice?
I like it. Personally, I've been waiting to switch to iphone but the notch and camera array are so ugly, along with bezels that are huge compared to every other brand's flagship. But the 17 pro max is finally starting to look premium in my eyes.
@ I have some issues with iOS, but overall since I'm not using the freedoms of android anymore, I think it might suit my needs more. Apple shrinking the bezels on the last few models and this camera change along with the supposed 12gb of ram, I see no reason to stay with samsung anymore except their nice anti-glare coating which hopefully the 17 pro max has. Either way, Apple have finally modernized their phones and caught up in hardware features like screens, refresh rate, etc. They've always had an amazing processor and software optimization, so for me, the 17 pro max leaks look and sound awesome. I'm a huge fan of a new design. It's been YEARS
I really like the idea of the new camera arrangement because it only finally fixes the table wobble situation everybody has been complaining about for the last decade
I'm gonna upgrade to the 17 pro max after using samsung since the iphone 4. I loved my iphone 4, but I liked the nice screens samsung had. In the past few years, apple really reduced the bezel on the screens and they added high refresh rate screens on the pro models. Android really doesn't have the better screens anymore unless you're a person who really can't stand the dynamic island. So to me, the iphone 17 pro max represents the iphone finally being on par with Android flagships in the ways that it didn't used to be. Then you throw in the fact that apple has always had the better phone processors and software optimization. THEN throw in the fact that they're upping the ram to 12gb. 17 pro max is the way to go. Not to say that the 16 pro max is bad at all, but I'm so glad I waited. I think you're gonna have a baller upgrade, and I'm gonna have a good time using an iphone again.
I upgraded from iphone xs max to iphone 16 pro. Honestly speaking the only improvement i can see is probably speed 60% faster. Camera improvement is perhaps only 30% better. Better battery life due to bigger battery size. But all in all nothing "ground breaking".
No smaller dynamic island? That massive pill is such an eyesore when playing games or watching movies. Guess I’ll be sticking with the 13 for another year again 🤣
If they make it so you can take landscape and vertical photos while you hold vertically that actually wouldn’t matter if the camera set up is like that. I don’t know why they can’t do that now?
I'm sure they could do that. It's a little unfortunate, because what the camera is seeing will appear smaller while in the camera app. It just feels a little jank to do it that way, but they certainly could.
@ I think people would prefer landscape photos over vertical and holding it vertically is easier for most people to take pictures with anyway. I at least want the option.
Not sure if the ever-increasing megapixels really upgrade our pictures. For dim light situations even Sony uses 12MP sensors on one of its absolute flagship camera models, because they just capture so much more light each with a larger pixel size.
I really doubt the iPhone will have its cameras aligned horizonally across the top like that. At least as far up as they show it. They cant have cameras ontop of other things internally so putting them there means the selfie camera and face id sensors would need to either be put somewhere else or not exist. The pixel has a horizontal camera bar but theres room above it for the selfie camera, these leaks seem to think the cameras will be pushed right to the top which wouldnt be possible.
while I can simply trade up every year with my provider to the newest iPhone I just dont know if I am going to do it this year or not quite yet, not a huge fan of the pixel camera design or the Samsung S series design for that matter, but I am also one of those people who put alot less into design and give more credit to the addition of quality features, if they can win me over in that department I would still consider upgrading but no point if it is a bunch of the same thing in a different design.
Do you think the standard 17's design will remain the same as the standard 16? Have heard a lot about the 17 air and the 17 pro, but nothing about the standard 17
It would seem to me that if you’re going to shoot movies you’d want to shoot landscape. How would those lenses react to that format? (Of course most uninformed will shoot movies in portrait mode - so it doesn’t matter) Gianni❤
So will the main rear camera still not get the latest camera module that was promised but didn’t appear on the 15 Pro Max? Also what is the functional advantage the 3 rear cameras being horizontal rather than vertically aligned?
It’s still a long way to go but it’s giving some great ideas as how it will look like. I’m confused about the new camera set up. But the 17 air is giving me some excitement. Apple should catch up with Samsung camera configuration otherwise they’ll be left behind, why they can’t do that? If other brands can do better than what we’re getting from Apple.
With all of these rumors and leaks about the camera lenses being repositioned in a horizontal line, I wonder how that would make special videos and photos possible.
I keep holding out upgrading my iPhone 13 Pro Max but keep getting disappointed… not sure any of it is worth the upgrade at the moment. Maybe the 18…. Not a fan of the snail pace innovation and minor upgrades
Matt you have a very informative channel, but I struggle to watch regularly because you tend to shout and your phrase “ things like this” Maybe it is just me and I don’t mean it as criticism, but more as an angle to look at taking the channel forward in 2025.Thanks Matt for all your hard work you put in.
Can you tell when they remove the notch it’s even hard for developers to try to avoid notch & island all the time, on android you can play full screen games with out problem
I love many Apple devices and have even newest wearables… but I’m gonna change and look for other products. There are some things that annoy me, first of all everytime you buy something, it’s updated in 2 years or so … batterylife and many compatible difficulties with 3rd party devices… and always think you buy the newest watch and find out a less expensive watch or even 3rd party device had brought me more joy. It’s time to make people happy again and not having brands fighting for costumers and make everything so restrictive. I will use my products thoroughly but going to change.
For Spacial video you would just have to record in landscape mode. Easy peasy. 😂 Or Apple will allow cameras to capture landscape in portrait mode. Like some Motorola phones.
The problem is that Apple is charging double the price for their boring phones. I have the IPhone 16 pro max 1 tb and I can honestly say that this phone isn’t worth $1,300 especially when it doesn’t have much of the AI technology like they claimed or promised down the line with updates. Not impressive at all.
Everyone will talk about them, mock them, joke about them THEN.. COPY them Prepare yourself for all companies having this horizontal cameras To be honest, I don’t mind it Finally apple made a change in design so it can push the market
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Do you think Apple should change the design for their iPhone?
It looks like google pixel 9
Yes
@@moisesgarcia293def not
The Face ID sensor, speakers and front facing camera can’t fit with this design so it’s impossible. Also spatial video will not be possible. This design is only for the air. The pro models will be the exact same as last year. They keep the same design for 3 years
If it is actual tech progress...OK
I m finally at this stage of life that I don’t know what phone is launching in market . Rip to the days of iPhone 4,5,6,8 xs , 11 pro
I’m at the state of life where i don’t know what iphone i have! 😂😂
Thank you for the update, I might keep my iPhone 16 pro max few more years, I might just need some accessories and a new case to get it going, any advice?
I would go for Airpods/JBL beam and a good leather case from Vionentus.
Yes, I agree 👍
I want the iPhone 17 pixel pro max
😂
You’re not getting it. Go with the Pixel Galaxy S30 Pro Ultra instead.
Me to, looks so cool!
Lmfao 🤣🤣
@@michaelhall9146rofl
New camera design: uuuuuuuuugggllyyyyyyy!!!
exactly my thoughts! looks like some cheap looking phone 😂
I like it. Personally, I've been waiting to switch to iphone but the notch and camera array are so ugly, along with bezels that are huge compared to every other brand's flagship. But the 17 pro max is finally starting to look premium in my eyes.
@@hobosnake1 agreed
I like the new design. It would allow it to sit on the table and not wobble so much!
@ I have some issues with iOS, but overall since I'm not using the freedoms of android anymore, I think it might suit my needs more. Apple shrinking the bezels on the last few models and this camera change along with the supposed 12gb of ram, I see no reason to stay with samsung anymore except their nice anti-glare coating which hopefully the 17 pro max has. Either way, Apple have finally modernized their phones and caught up in hardware features like screens, refresh rate, etc. They've always had an amazing processor and software optimization, so for me, the 17 pro max leaks look and sound awesome. I'm a huge fan of a new design. It's been YEARS
I really like the idea of the new camera arrangement because it only finally fixes the table wobble situation everybody has been complaining about for the last decade
It will be amazing if iphone 17 pro max has same powerful zoom camera like Sumsung for long distances 👍🏻
Google Pixel camera bar design 😝
I would love a 48 mp zoom with a 10x optical zoom
I’ll keep my 8+ ….works just fine 👍🏼
I thought to buy a first triangular cam iPhone this year 🙂
Cool!
@@MattTalkTech it’s going to be endangered 🙂
I hope to upgrade this year finally, still rockin the 12 pro max
I'm gonna upgrade to the 17 pro max after using samsung since the iphone 4. I loved my iphone 4, but I liked the nice screens samsung had. In the past few years, apple really reduced the bezel on the screens and they added high refresh rate screens on the pro models. Android really doesn't have the better screens anymore unless you're a person who really can't stand the dynamic island. So to me, the iphone 17 pro max represents the iphone finally being on par with Android flagships in the ways that it didn't used to be. Then you throw in the fact that apple has always had the better phone processors and software optimization. THEN throw in the fact that they're upping the ram to 12gb. 17 pro max is the way to go. Not to say that the 16 pro max is bad at all, but I'm so glad I waited. I think you're gonna have a baller upgrade, and I'm gonna have a good time using an iphone again.
same
Me too!! Decided to skip the 16 pm this year because I heard rumors saying that the 17 pm will have better upgrades. Hopefully we will be satisfied!
My 12 pro max still works but apples mad that i havent bought a new phone yet so its getting buggy but fuck tim cook ill use it till its desd
@@Jimbosreptilessame with me😂
But most importantly what are the colours thats all I care about
Honestly!!! Imma call so tired of the natural titanium and blue on the pros
Change of indicator in Yamaha bike cost by 5000 every year like that iPhone camera
I’m not sure there is anything new on 15, 16 and the coming 17, I’m good with my 14 pro max
I think iPhone need to make better zooming like other companies
I’m saving up for the iPhone 17 pro max
I plan to get the iPhone 17 Pro Max!
Awesome!
Don't wate your money. I bet it'll have more promises and nothing special.
Definitely going to Upgrade from 11 pro to 17 pro max
The spatial video problem is simple: you’ll film in vertical orientation.
That’s it.
I’m getting the Iwheel.
Link for the case please
In the description and pinned comment my friend
I’m so happy we finally have a new design. I don’t mind that it copies anyone I’m just happy it’s new
Same here, glad for something new (ish)
I’m going to try and hold off with my 15pm until they bring a green like the 13pm
Agreed alpine green was legendary
I agree.
I doubt it on the cameras. But if they would im keeping my iphone 16 pro max. For yrs
I JUST got the 16 pro max last week 😭 i upgraded from a 7 plus but I actually understand how people feel like they’re missing out now
Thats a huge upgrade! Hope you’re loving it~
I upgraded from iphone xs max to iphone 16 pro. Honestly speaking the only improvement i can see is probably speed 60% faster. Camera improvement is perhaps only 30% better. Better battery life due to bigger battery size. But all in all nothing "ground breaking".
Finally Design Will change
I am definitely upgrading from iPhone 13 Pro to 17 Pro Max.
Nice one, you will love it
why pro max and not pro again?
@eliamartin4355just need bigger screen bad eyes and getting older
All is only incremental.
Surely the Air releases this year?
I want to get new iPhone 17 pro!
I like the current iphone camera layout cause it’s unique to Apple and Apple using less titanium is the most upsetting part of all of this 🤧
Thanks for this!
No problem
No smaller dynamic island? That massive pill is such an eyesore when playing games or watching movies. Guess I’ll be sticking with the 13 for another year again 🤣
Dynamic Island needs to go, seamlessness and simplicity with a clean screen is what we want.
If they make it so you can take landscape and vertical photos while you hold vertically that actually wouldn’t matter if the camera set up is like that. I don’t know why they can’t do that now?
I'm sure they could do that. It's a little unfortunate, because what the camera is seeing will appear smaller while in the camera app. It just feels a little jank to do it that way, but they certainly could.
@ I think people would prefer landscape photos over vertical and holding it vertically is easier for most people to take pictures with anyway. I at least want the option.
I want my Nextel i930 back 😢
I'm gonna be upgrading from the 12 Pro Max to the 17 Pro Max!
Horizontal? Wtf cant wait for this to release so I can buy Iphone 16 pro max lol
😂😂😂😂😂😂
was thinking the same lmao. would be heavily confused if they would actually go for the horizontal layout. looks like garbage and a nasty downgrade
Not sure if the ever-increasing megapixels really upgrade our pictures. For dim light situations even Sony uses 12MP sensors on one of its absolute flagship camera models, because they just capture so much more light each with a larger pixel size.
that's a myth
I have the 15 pro max I will definitely get the 17 pro max
Bro it’s so ugly 😭🙏
I might just keep my 15 pro max for a while until we know that the 17 is going to actually work out if they do change the design
I hope to get a Mac mini. It will be my first apple product
I really doubt the iPhone will have its cameras aligned horizonally across the top like that. At least as far up as they show it. They cant have cameras ontop of other things internally so putting them there means the selfie camera and face id sensors would need to either be put somewhere else or not exist. The pixel has a horizontal camera bar but theres room above it for the selfie camera, these leaks seem to think the cameras will be pushed right to the top which wouldnt be possible.
Good theory
while I can simply trade up every year with my provider to the newest iPhone I just dont know if I am going to do it this year or not quite yet, not a huge fan of the pixel camera design or the Samsung S series design for that matter, but I am also one of those people who put alot less into design and give more credit to the addition of quality features, if they can win me over in that department I would still consider upgrading but no point if it is a bunch of the same thing in a different design.
Does anyone remember what the Xbox 720 was "leaked" as looking like?
You guys are crazy
This is it. It looks different.
I want the s24U display, customization and camera capabilities. Let’s go Apple
I want one to
Do you think the standard 17's design will remain the same as the standard 16? Have heard a lot about the 17 air and the 17 pro, but nothing about the standard 17
OK i want one😄
3:42 small little typo 😅🤭 thanks for the video, keep it up 🔥
Sorry iPhone 17 pro max just got your premature brother 16 pro max and really happy
I love this ❤❤❤❤I hope I get in the giveaway when you do it ❤❤❤this is the new design
If this is what the iPhone 17 looks like I’ll finally upgrade from my 11 pro
It would seem to me that if you’re going to shoot movies you’d want to shoot landscape. How would those lenses react to that format? (Of course most uninformed will shoot movies in portrait mode - so it doesn’t matter)
Gianni❤
So will the main rear camera still not get the latest camera module that was promised but didn’t appear on the 15 Pro Max? Also what is the functional advantage the 3 rear cameras being horizontal rather than vertically aligned?
Pixel 9
Next minute the same as last year
The rear cameras could rotate creating a holographic image and the sapphire camera capture button could double as a laser keyboard / trackpad emitter.
Good idea
That horizontal lens plate render doesn’t look too shabby. I am a bit worried, but hopefully Apple manages to make it look…🍏
Yeah, I know what you mean
Hope this is a dynamic island moment, were everyone thought it would be an ugly i , but it turned out great
I just want more battery life
Same here
I’m happy for a new redesign, but am I the only one that just really not that excited for another iPhone
pixel pro XL
In the kingdom of love, the apple reigns supreme
A treasure to behold, a heart's sweet dream❤❤🎉
It’s still a long way to go but it’s giving some great ideas as how it will look like. I’m confused about the new camera set up. But the 17 air is giving me some excitement. Apple should catch up with Samsung camera configuration otherwise they’ll be left behind, why they can’t do that? If other brands can do better than what we’re getting from Apple.
make it thinker for a bigger battery and a 200mp camera
If this is actually true? Im actually excited for this new design! I will be looking forward to it later on this year.
With all of these rumors and leaks about the camera lenses being repositioned in a horizontal line, I wonder how that would make special videos and photos possible.
You’d hold the phone vertically while you film.
I keep holding out upgrading my iPhone 13 Pro Max but keep getting disappointed… not sure any of it is worth the upgrade at the moment. Maybe the 18…. Not a fan of the snail pace innovation and minor upgrades
Siri on ozempic at this point bc every year this phone keeps getting slimmer and slimmer tf 😢
Matt you have a very informative channel, but I struggle to watch regularly because you tend to shout and your phrase “ things like this” Maybe it is just me and I don’t mean it as criticism, but more as an angle to look at taking the channel forward in 2025.Thanks Matt for all your hard work you put in.
How tf are you supposed to hold the phone horizontally with that camera setup
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Can you tell when they remove the notch it’s even hard for developers to try to avoid notch & island all the time, on android you can play full screen games with out problem
I love many Apple devices and have even newest wearables… but I’m gonna change and look for other products. There are some things that annoy me, first of all everytime you buy something, it’s updated in 2 years or so … batterylife and many compatible difficulties with 3rd party devices… and always think you buy the newest watch and find out a less expensive watch or even 3rd party device had brought me more joy. It’s time to make people happy again and not having brands fighting for costumers and make everything so restrictive. I will use my products thoroughly but going to change.
Apple pixel👍
Please Pixel looks like an iPhone! What you talking about
@@callmeNenolol all new phones look very similar definitely, and every phone maker takes tips from other manufacturers including apple and google
@@callmeNenoi dont understand how people are saying that, complete bs the pixel has had that look for a while now moron
Haha, one way to look at it
@@MattTalkTechkeep bringing awesomeness content brother; you’re killing it!!!!
For Spacial video you would just have to record in landscape mode.
Easy peasy. 😂
Or Apple will allow cameras to capture landscape in portrait mode. Like some Motorola phones.
Good thinking
god damn can i get my 16 first from my 14 i cant keep up
I love your videos !
cages will all have to change again!!
Do you have some leaks about the regular iPhone 17?
Not much has dropped for that sadly. I will keep looking out for it
@@MattTalkTech ok thank you for answering. Your videos are great!
Ditching qualcomm is a bad idea
I want some pls
Apple making their own modem…
🤔
Worrying 😢
The problem is that Apple is charging double the price for their boring phones. I have the
IPhone 16 pro max 1 tb
and I can honestly say that this phone isn’t worth $1,300 especially when it doesn’t have much of the AI technology like they claimed or promised down the line with updates. Not impressive at all.
You can tell someone left Google to join Apple with “new” ideas 😂😂
bro, i just got the 16 pro max & it feels like the 17 pro max has been out for 6 months already
Wow! Amazing Phone👍
Give me one 😭😭
Apple need to release a phone soon and a good phone, not some stupid upgrade, S25 is calling me !!
I want a iPhone 16 pro max
I have it and it’s nice but if you’re not gonna use the action button, you’ll probably probably better off to get the 15 pro max
Cool, it is a great iPhone
Aluminium downgrade they will try to sell as an upgrade ? Hopefully the phones don’t start bending again.
3:09 you mean the A19 Pro
Yup, forgot the 'pro' but I did correct myself about 3 seconds later
Pixel?
They won't come with design like that let me assure you
I’ll just keep my iPhone 16 plus
Everyone will talk about them, mock them, joke about them
THEN.. COPY them
Prepare yourself for all companies having this horizontal cameras
To be honest, I don’t mind it
Finally apple made a change in design so it can push the market
I'd avoid the iPhone 17 like the plague. While it may have some radical design changes .quality will be an issue , it's a lemon.