Leeds United: The Wilderness Years 1975-1988: 1: Prologue

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  • @vincentstevens5048
    @vincentstevens5048 2 роки тому +12

    Liverpool fan here, but I really admire that Leeds team of the 70s and truly wish they had won this match.

    • @alancassell566
      @alancassell566 2 роки тому +1

      Clarke penalty.. Lorimer goal.... Wicked larceny... Leeds utd cheated..

    • @CARLIN4737
      @CARLIN4737 Рік тому +1

      why? dirty Leeds got what they was well due.

  • @johnc8770
    @johnc8770 7 років тому +19

    I'm unable to watch this particular episode of this fantastic series . I was there constantly throughout these times and i was right behind the goal when Lorimer scored. The memories of that very painful evening still exist in my mind and at 60 i guess they'll never leave me. what i wouldn't have given just to see our footballing God, Billy lift that trophy. I'm watching all the others though, and a huge thank you for it. I'm looking out for myself and my great friend Neil who followed them everywhere with me. Neil was sat next to me in Paris that night but he died of a heart attack less than two years later aged 22 God bless him.

  • @paoloallesio394
    @paoloallesio394 7 років тому +25

    And then there was Franz Bechanbauer the third referee on the field.Supposed to be a fair man I think not.

  • @jamesau9877
    @jamesau9877 4 роки тому +25

    Ever since that cheating final, I get hugely excited and joyed whenever Bayern Munich lose in any European games.

    • @charlesjohnson9249
      @charlesjohnson9249 3 роки тому +2

      Poor you, 2020 must have been a terrible year for you.
      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
      Mia san mia!!

    • @jannwue
      @jannwue 3 роки тому +1

      @@charlesjohnson9249 No, one gets used to see you guys win. Still, the few occasions you lose, are even better. And the best thing is, I doubt that you guys are really cheering when winning aus you are so much used to it. Hence, the only time we are all joining in extasy is when you guys unexpectedly lose!

    • @charlesjohnson9249
      @charlesjohnson9249 3 роки тому

      @@jannwue again: must have been a terrible 2020 for you!!
      Maybe this year could be better for you but it is an extremely pathetic life you´re living.
      I really pity you.

    • @jannwue
      @jannwue 3 роки тому

      @@charlesjohnson9249 again: Just don't care about FCB success only the great defeats. Don't pity me please

    • @charlesjohnson9249
      @charlesjohnson9249 3 роки тому

      @@jannwue I am sorry but I have to pity you because it is such a miserable life you are leading by only feeling any kind of joy if Bayern looses.
      Cause in the end it means that you have EXTREMELY few days per year in which you feel any kind of happiness and this is really sad.

  • @simondoran9682
    @simondoran9682 7 років тому +7

    I love these. They're heartbreakingly short. Watch them all in a row viewers

  • @peteralderson1483
    @peteralderson1483 6 років тому +12

    I’m a Newcastle fan and never liked Leeds, I knew Leeds were one of the best teams when I was growing up but didn’t want them to win. The European cup final was different and felt cheated just as much as the Leeds fans . I was 10 when the match was played and still remember the game.

  • @jackgamer8562
    @jackgamer8562 7 років тому +25

    The referee retired after this game. Obviously he had a Golden handshake from Bayern Munich. Bribing refs in Europe was rife then . Especially with German and Italian clubs.

    • @steelyman08
      @steelyman08 2 роки тому +1

      I was absolutely gutted! Couldn't believe my eyes & ears. I was just a schoolboy at the time (11), but a very devoted fan. One of the most appalling episodes in football history. Bayern should have done a Bielsa, and refused the trophy. It was that disgusting. I would not have been proud as one of their supporters, players, etc. Leeds have rarely had the rub of the green!

  • @belnat
    @belnat 4 роки тому +15

    Chelsea fan and obviously no lover of Leeds but that was and still is an absolute disgrace,as bent as arseholes.
    Fantastic series though 👍

  • @musicplateau1
    @musicplateau1 6 років тому +16

    Leeds won that fair and square, should have a star designed into their crest regardless. Beckenbauer was like the flu around this time, he also hurled abuse at Jack Taylor in the 1974 WC final when he awarded the 1st minute penalty. The whole thing stunk.

  • @tatata1543
    @tatata1543 6 років тому +18

    That was a stonewall penalty.

  • @converse91970
    @converse91970 7 років тому +14

    I'm not a Leeds fans but I must confess I do find Marching on Together (Leeds Leeds Leeds) a very jolly football song!

  • @steelyman08
    @steelyman08 2 роки тому +3

    Just a word of thanks for these incredible uploads. Love the way you incorporated the fashion & music of the times along with the key footage. Really brilliant stuff. An amazing amount of hard work & dedication went into this body of work. Takes me right back to the times. Watching Clarke's Leeds go down at that WBA match right at the end of the season... I hope Brentford won't be a similar episode this year! Thanks again for all of your excellent work.

  • @herbertwright7670
    @herbertwright7670 4 роки тому +10

    Seeing that again now...match fixed..becanbaur reminded the ref he was getting a bribe and that's why the goal was disallowed..German.. Spanish and Italian teams have always bribed refs..I should know having seen four penalties turned down in 09 when Chelsea were cheated out of a champions league final place by Barcelona 😠😠😠 !!! Herb Chelsea

  • @mavericktriple9488
    @mavericktriple9488 Рік тому +1

    I can remember it, Leeds were done out of the final. Back then we couldn't watch it on TV only listen to it on the radio. They didn't want Leeds to win pure and simple. UEFA has always been bent especially when it came to English teams because we were winning most of the European games

  • @dannycostello2236
    @dannycostello2236 8 років тому +5

    well worth a watch the very last minute with,,especially the last minute with little old me getting on the ferry in my not very trendy brown jacket! three weeks before my 17th birthday, left home monday morning and got back friday night,,great week.

    • @ThomasToGreenhoff
      @ThomasToGreenhoff 7 років тому

      Danny Costello did you make it to hilllsbrough 2 years later? The most embarrassing turn out for a so called 'big ' club by Leeds that day in April 1977.

    • @lennylaa1686
      @lennylaa1686 5 років тому

      Danny!..@7.12, that is you! with the 4 other lads!
      You've got great big flared trousers at ''half mast!''
      Good job the stadium had a moat, otherwise you'd have been up the other end to
      take up WW2 again, hahahaha!

  • @gary1961
    @gary1961 2 роки тому +4

    Imagine if VAR had been around in those days. Lorimer goal would stand. Penalty for the foul on Clarke, and maybe one or two red cards for those dirty tackles by Munich players.

  • @MrBrianlangton
    @MrBrianlangton 2 роки тому +8

    I remember that game so well. Leeds were simply robbed.

  • @1061andy
    @1061andy 7 років тому +9

    Robbery in Paris - still remember watching this on tv

  • @aleebee4989
    @aleebee4989 6 років тому +2

    How can UEFA ban that footage? I can see why they would want to, but don't see how.
    I'm not a Leeds fan - and I apologise for taking as long as I did to realise it was Don Revie co-commentating - but am enjoying watching these 'wilderness years' clips as a football fan. Still good football being played, even after 'the glory years'. Thanks for putting them up.

  • @bascet1
    @bascet1 7 років тому +13

    Didn't Derby County have some shocking decisions go against them in a European Cup Semi around this time?

    • @steve-r-collier
      @steve-r-collier 6 років тому +1

      cLOUGH would have won another european cup if it wasnt for the cheating ref

    • @pwareham61
      @pwareham61 6 років тому +4

      bascet1 That was against Juventus, a German player called Haller was seen talking in German to the German referee Schulenberg.

    • @aleebee4989
      @aleebee4989 6 років тому +2

      @@steve-r-collier Cloughie AND Taylor

    • @steve-r-collier
      @steve-r-collier 6 років тому +1

      yes Taylor played a big hand in clough's success

    • @dod6031
      @dod6031 Рік тому

      Cloughies interview was funny. He said ‘I’m not talking to you lot because I don’t speak to cheating bastards’

  • @stevecooksley
    @stevecooksley 7 років тому +7

    They used to tuck us up in It's a Knockout as well. Bastards.

  • @gracesmith3914
    @gracesmith3914 3 роки тому

    I've watched that goal a hundred times and can't believe it got disallowed. Och well.

  • @CB-xr1eg
    @CB-xr1eg 7 років тому +2

    Apparently our number 6 in the European cup final was Huter...who knew?..1:09

  • @nickwrathall7540
    @nickwrathall7540 5 років тому +1

    A very young-looking Prime Minister Jacques Chirac at 0.48 to 0.52 (for all you French politics fans out there...). 23 years later he would be President, and cheering Emmanuel Petit's goal in the 3-0 win for France in the World Cup Final at the Stade de France...

  • @iansmith5211
    @iansmith5211 3 роки тому +1

    I remember watching.that game on the telly with my dad. I was 11 years old. And we both wanted Leeds to win the cup.. my dad called that referee all the names under the son.. Leeds were cheated. Ian from liverpool

  • @birdandthe
    @birdandthe 6 років тому +8

    Definetly Leeds were cheated as were Derby in Juventus in 1973

  • @jandekker6055
    @jandekker6055 7 років тому +4

    Beckenbauer played Jack Taylor in the 74 World Cup final as well. Said 'You're an Englishman' to him after he gave the penalty to Holland in the first minute, ie 'you're bound to side with them aren't you, but you've got a sense of fair play too'. Needless to say, a little later he gave W. Germany a soft penalty for their equaliser. But then, what player isn't in the ref's ear? What's so odd about this is that the ref gives a goal and then rules it out after a player has a whinge. Never seen that before. The 'blocked by UEFA' thing just makes it smell even worse. They probably pleaded 'copyright', but the fact that the other footage seems to be OK suggests otherwise. No wonder I can't find the game anywhere on UA-cam.
    On another score, I didn't know till recently that Armfield sent on Revie's team because it was 'their last chance', leaving out Duncan McKenzie, and let Revie lead out the team. Is that actually true or McKenzie's sour grapes? Pretty astonishing if it is true.

    • @Lord_Hillcrest01
      @Lord_Hillcrest01 5 років тому

      Its true he wanted Revies team out of respect but he didnt lead them out.

    • @normanby100
      @normanby100 2 роки тому

      @@Lord_Hillcrest01 Mckenzie should have been introduced at some point as he could produce a bit of magic out of nowhere.

  • @richardphillips6392
    @richardphillips6392 4 роки тому +2

    Not sure about the Clarke penalty, Beckenbauer gets a touch on the ball IMO. And the Lorimer goal was fractionally offside

    • @charlieboyism
      @charlieboyism 3 роки тому +1

      Richard behave. It’s the most blatant penalty you’ll ever see and you can quite clearly see he doesn’t touch the ball.

    • @TheEx3rgj
      @TheEx3rgj 2 роки тому

      What about the Eddie Gray foul nailed on penalty.

  • @normanby100
    @normanby100 6 місяців тому

    And Coventry thought they had it tough with their offside goal at Wembley...

  • @koko2bware
    @koko2bware 2 роки тому +2

    Leeds were clearly robbed in that 1975 European Cup final! Don Revie should have never left Leeds for England! Total injustice!

  • @dariosarandrea4074
    @dariosarandrea4074 Рік тому +1

    Ero giovanissimo ma ricordo molto bene quella partita, il Leeds United meritava di vincere la Coppa dei Campioni ed invece ha subito un vero furto!

  • @russellwood1455
    @russellwood1455 3 роки тому

    As madeley heads the ball across goal Billy Bremner is two yards offside

  • @GetBenched2010
    @GetBenched2010 2 роки тому

    In Franz's defense, how can you say no to a fro like that?

  • @salamander981
    @salamander981 11 місяців тому

    At 4 minutes 30 seconds...Is that what i think it is ?...

  • @kjellesperas5132
    @kjellesperas5132 3 роки тому +2

    I still hate that ref even that i know he's dead. Biggest cheater in the game. I would like to piss on his grave.
    He took away the best players ever been in England their last chance to be european CHAMPIONS.
    LEEDS UNITED NORWAY 🇧🇻🇬🇧

  • @TheEx3rgj
    @TheEx3rgj 2 роки тому

    If that doesn’t prove how bent that was when EUFA blocked the Leeds goal what does?

  • @geoffjones4285
    @geoffjones4285 Рік тому

    Thanks to Leeds in 1975 we faced over policing in 1981

  • @nigelkirby7567
    @nigelkirby7567 5 років тому

    We are the champions, champions of Europe....MOT..

  • @natureclips5849
    @natureclips5849 3 роки тому +1

    The decline began when Clough came in and Revie left.

  • @jptey289
    @jptey289 Рік тому +1

    Je suis français en 1975 je me souviens très bien de la finale contre Bayern a paris... l'arbitre français Mr kitabdjian avait offert la coupe au bayern en volant leeds comme c'est pas permis... Un véritable scandale... avec mon père on était fan du football anglais on avait vraiment honte de cet arbitre français

  • @Dermot2927
    @Dermot2927 2 роки тому

    The thumbnail reminds me of the covers of a couple of Lynyrd Skynyrd albums... "Pronounced" and "Nuthin' Fancy".

  • @bertcert991
    @bertcert991 Рік тому +1

    Very funny to watch Bayern deservedly win the cup hilarious!

  • @dannycostello2236
    @dannycostello2236 8 років тому

    thats john costello not danny!

  • @sphughes01
    @sphughes01 3 роки тому +1

    I am no Leeds fan anything but ... yet that European Cup final was rigged. I have never been so disappointed by a result and I wanted Leeds to lose at first. When Clarke was pulled down I thought it was a genuine mistake and just laughed it off. But as the game went on and as Leeds began to get more and more on top it became clearer that something was not quite right. The Lorimer 'goal' that never was convinced me that this was a conspiracy. The referee was on his way back to the halfway line and I have never before or since seen a referee change his mind apart from the introduction of VAR. There should have been a full investigation into this and the match replayed. Ironically this happened to Leeds in the European Cup in 1992 against another German team when they played an ineligible player. Maybe Leeds would not have won the replayed match who knows but the way that game was refereed was a scandal.

  • @SuperSirwanksalot
    @SuperSirwanksalot 6 років тому +2

    Blocked bye uefa my ass I've seen that footage loads of times,they should of had a penalty for sure and Lorimer's goal should have stood but that don't mean it would of been it

    • @Lufcfilms
      @Lufcfilms  6 років тому

      UA-cam has video recognition algorithms that UEFA buy into (as do the EFL and Premier League). When the first version of the film was uploaded, it was soon removed by UA-cam since the Leeds goal pictures flagged that it was UEFA copyright footage. I appealed the decision but lost. I subsequently re-edited the footage to obscure the goal so that the film would be allowed.

  •  4 роки тому

    No fan of Leeds, but they were definitely robbed that night. As they were against AC Milan in 1973. RIP, Mr. Norman Hunter.

  • @patriceikome1507
    @patriceikome1507 6 років тому

    I support Chelsea and I like Bayern munich because I was born there I have been to the stadium

    • @peteranthony7115
      @peteranthony7115 6 років тому +3

      Patrice Ikome Chelsea and bayern Munich just how can unlucky one man be.

  • @shauntaylor6040
    @shauntaylor6040 4 роки тому +2

    So the referee was corrupt.

  • @thomasoflaherty3520
    @thomasoflaherty3520 5 років тому

    The Wilderness Years?. Still waiting to view your most recent update, the one that goes up to 2019 and beyond.

    • @grahamflaherty5422
      @grahamflaherty5422 4 роки тому

      Thomas O'Flaherty At a DVD store near you now. United are back!

  • @paulomendes4892
    @paulomendes4892 6 років тому +2

    bayern never ever beat na english team again in a final

  • @simonprodhan5050
    @simonprodhan5050 2 роки тому

    disgusting cheats is all one can say about bayern munich, beckenbauer one of the finest players of his day should be eternally ashamed, leeds really should have been england's second european champions, definite penalty and absolutely nothing wrong with lorimers goal, one of the greatest football injustices

  • @luismoreno9578
    @luismoreno9578 3 роки тому +1

    1:31 Penalasooooooo!

  • @MrKenny777
    @MrKenny777 Рік тому

    If ever there was justification for fans to riot…..

  • @steelyman08
    @steelyman08 2 роки тому

    And just for the record, here's the Lorimer goal & Cramer stating that it was a goal without a doubt.
    ua-cam.com/video/UbgQdT8eviI/v-deo.html

  • @mickcardiff3044
    @mickcardiff3044 2 роки тому

    what a fix..

  • @geoffcliff1503
    @geoffcliff1503 7 років тому +4

    cheated. ref was paid off.

  • @chrisdennehy9425
    @chrisdennehy9425 6 років тому +1

    Too bad no VAR!

  • @Terminatror43
    @Terminatror43 5 років тому

    I'm amazed that not a single one of the Tommies in the comments can spell "Beckenbauer".

    • @devillehall6171
      @devillehall6171 4 роки тому

      Bentbauer is how he's known

    • @paulbarrett22
      @paulbarrett22 4 роки тому +1

      Translated its pronounced "cheating german twat" you're welcome ..Tommy 🇬🇧

    • @charlesjohnson9249
      @charlesjohnson9249 3 роки тому

      They can´t even speak their own laguage, how could the be capable of speaking a foreign laguage??

    • @Terminatror43
      @Terminatror43 3 роки тому +1

      That guy alone won more World Cups than your entire country. And "Beckenbauer" actually means "Pool builder". The exact pool he uses to collect your tears.
      Have a nice one.

    • @charlesjohnson9249
      @charlesjohnson9249 3 роки тому

      @@Terminatror43 Hehehehe 👍👍👍👍👍

  • @jacknikitos6185
    @jacknikitos6185 Рік тому

    Dynamo Kyiv showed those clowns from Bayern how to play during SuperCup later.

  • @Lord_Hillcrest
    @Lord_Hillcrest 3 роки тому

    Absolutely disgusting how leeds were robbed .

  • @Sameoldfitup
    @Sameoldfitup 8 років тому +1

    Leeds United Robbed

  • @peteranthony7115
    @peteranthony7115 6 років тому +4

    Leeds were robbed

  • @29TONYHA
    @29TONYHA 8 місяців тому

    2 EUROPEAN FINALS THAT LEEDS GOT ROBBED ( 1973 THESSALONIKI 1975 PARIS)

  • @johnreed3638
    @johnreed3638 2 роки тому

    Leeds Utd we’re cheated . The game was fixed. Still waiting for UEAFA to do the right thing and give the game to Leeds, but they won’t. SHAME on them.

  • @allanhall4210
    @allanhall4210 5 років тому

    It's clear that, that game was a Franco German stitch up just like the EU

  • @JohnCambridge-c6t
    @JohnCambridge-c6t 2 місяці тому

    Bribery

  • @herbertneumann1916
    @herbertneumann1916 4 роки тому +5

    Stop the whining already. Leeds were a bunch of hacks and should have been down to 10 men after 5 minutes when Terry Yorath assaulted Bayern's Björn Andersson and broke his leg in two places. One of the cheapest shots I have ever seen in my life. You were not cheated, you just got what you deserved ;-)

  • @kbeesmot9928
    @kbeesmot9928 6 років тому

    The good old days before I needed to buy in the Bobby Charleton wig section holed up before we confronted the scum at Old Toilet. Me and my footsoldiers can be seen in the video getting off the battle bus for fisting and windmilling. Took some out on the JC bogs for FKTS MOT ALAW WACCOE.

    • @staceygrove5976
      @staceygrove5976 3 роки тому

      Hmmmmm.....are you feeling alright?

    • @kbeesmot9928
      @kbeesmot9928 3 роки тому

      @@staceygrove5976 You gotta be old stye Leeds to understand, are you a youngster or going to ER in the mid 70's?

  • @andisadler2897
    @andisadler2897 8 років тому

    CHELSEA FC...................
    www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04fdcb2 listen to this from John Motson what he says about Leeds lol

  • @Mitch-sc6gj
    @Mitch-sc6gj 7 років тому +1

    We are leeds

  • @retoschumacher5979
    @retoschumacher5979 7 місяців тому

    Of course it was a penalty! And of course it was a goal! SHAME Referee! SHAME UEFA!

  • @stephenpiggott5869
    @stephenpiggott5869 2 роки тому

    I'm an arsenal fan but Leeds were robbed no doubt

  • @CARLIN4737
    @CARLIN4737 Рік тому

    The 70s were terrible and so was the football.

  • @mrnobody4237
    @mrnobody4237 3 роки тому

    WACCOE.

  • @FriedrichKNobel
    @FriedrichKNobel 4 роки тому +2

    Muahaha, Leeds was robbed? Yeah of course. Ref didnt sent off three Leeds players in the game. Get your silly "We woz robbed"-propaganda right. After the game Leeds was banned from the competition for years. You know there was a reason....

  • @flochroland6112
    @flochroland6112 Рік тому

    L'arbitre, la honte !!! Finale volé !!! Honte au Bayern München

  • @f.g.g.4962
    @f.g.g.4962 5 років тому

    SHAME

  • @steve-r-collier
    @steve-r-collier 6 років тому

    Leeds fans never been the best losers...baseball ground i remember

  • @paulbarrett22
    @paulbarrett22 4 роки тому

    Hate germans

  • @steve-r-collier
    @steve-r-collier 6 років тому

    what do leeds expect when they sack the greatest manager after 44 days...total yorkshire prats! ha,ha...DERBY FOREVER

    • @Fexobs
      @Fexobs 4 роки тому +2

      Clough was useless at Leeds. Made a total tit of himself.

    • @grahamflaherty5422
      @grahamflaherty5422 4 роки тому +1

      masonfreeparty Derby forever in Leeds shadow.

    • @mrnobody4237
      @mrnobody4237 3 роки тому

      Thought Brian Clough was great.
      He pretty much put Forrest and Derby on the footballing map, so was a bigger star there than almost literally anyone.
      Although he was definitely respected in Leeds, he was probably seen as a gobby twat at the time. Then expected to walk into Leeds and for the whole city to throw roses at his feet as he walked through the door for the first time, he should have, and did know better that to think he could swan in and just basically cunt everyone off.
      When he came to Leeds it turned into 44 days of everyone just banging their ego's together.
      We'll never know what Clough could have done if him and the team had gelled, plus a couple of his own signings?
      But he blew it just as much as Leeds did, and he regretted it too later.
      Anyway, it's two years after you posted, hope you made it? lol

  • @ostbar6365
    @ostbar6365 Рік тому

    The best Game, Leeds United -: FC Barcelona, 1975 !!!!

  • @ostbar6365
    @ostbar6365 Рік тому

    Englisch Dynamite