Talk Africa: Kenya begins Haiti mission
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- Опубліковано 17 лип 2024
- An advance team of Kenyan police have arrived in the troubled Caribbean nation of Haiti, as part of a "UN-backed initiative" largely financed by Washington. This week on the program, we look at some of Haiti's troubled political history, the reasons behind Kenya's involvement in the mission and why it has faced such fierce pushback.
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I believe to help Haiti 🇭🇹 is to erase Franch system which has proven itself as evil system right from west Africa Haiti not excluded.
What about the 🇭🇹 people ? Their is of issues that the 🇭🇹 people need to make decisions
God cursed that voodoo loving nation
Sons of our motherland... May God protect you there so that you return here in NBO alive and healthy. Kenya is better than you left it, and it will be much better then
Kenya 🇰🇪 is always very open and you people we love our black people in Haiti 🇭🇹 so please let us work together for them
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@@darrellyoung7477😂 god cursed you voodoo loving people
These Dr. ladies God Bless them. They seem to really love America.
tho i dont like ruto... i pray this mission is a successs... people shouldnt live in such hostile conditions.
What are you talking about??? The Haitians are fighting for freedom...why do you think they are protecting the USA embassy... American troops can't be sent because 46% of the troops are Black and won't kill their brothers... Kenya has sent its police to support imperialism and white supremacy...
Watching Beatrice Marshal do her thing since KTN is a thing of marvel
Faith Odhiambo Saying that the Kenyan police is not trained for such missions is quite laughable. She should do her research well about the Kenyan police. She should know that this is not just the normal police she encounters everyday. But this is a special unit drawn from the elite forces within the police. From the recee, SOG & ASTU.
It's true because police are not trained for such missions,they had to be retrained by the US marines before they left Kenya.
This doctor is 150% right with everything she is saying. Love that hat.
No, she isn't
Pretesting???. So in Haiti people protest with guns.
"So why is Kenyan police involved in Haiti?"
With Ruto it's about boosting his name in the world stage and also about the dollar bill.
The Haitians don’t want help from the Kenyans let them sort themselves out I am sure they will be okay .I hate our troops being demonised .Haitian gangs are their freedom fighter .
Unaongea matope tupu
How can gangs that have no order or follow no procedure or law be freedom fighters 🤔 Idiot people are living under horror
Akili ndogo kma ya ruto
Kenyan President is a traitor tryna make money on Haiti ............... treasonous
Do the Haitians tell you that? Or are you part of a gang?
Kenya 🇰🇪 is always the only Key to keeping the world without war
My Ogun protect our Haiti brothers
Its a US led mission first off using kenya as a proxy !
UN approved.
@@joshuambeya4336correct!!! And UN = US
This is not a military mission and more than anything what alternative do Haitians have? Kenyan Police so far have been welcomed by the locals in Haiti.
@EmmanuelMotelin not sure about that
Kenya has led successful peace keeping missions in more that 10 countries for decades without US
The Hatians living large in the US and Canada are not the ones suffering in Haiti, so all they do is blame the US never blaming Hatian politicians, never taking into consideration the plp in Haiti living in fear of rape, theft and killing. It’s easy to talk from the comfort of the US. Why isnt she in Haiti fighting the good fight? The plp need help so help is welcome.
@Mannyvz295 First of all. You're not Haitians , it's not happening all over the country. In Cap Haitien, we don't have that problem. It doesn't need a multinational to fix a freaking gang problem. It's not a hard problem to fix , the US is the main problem in all this. They blocked the police from having access to guns from other countries due to illegal embargo. Meanwhile, they are arming the gangs .
@@decodedpsyopcorrect 💯. But Haiti belongs to Haitian not the u.s and because Haitian people don't respect their country they're sold out
@@decodedpsyopHaitian sold their country for u.s visa so disrespectful to the ancestors
both of your guest are against the deployment, we need to hear the idea of those supporting it,
the deployed men are specially trained unit not ordinary police force, the Border patrol Unit, the Rapid deployment Unit RDU and REECE squad, they are trained in urban warfare, they eliminated armed robberies in kenya
Faith seems not to know everything about her country and she should do more research on matters on security officers from her country
For example? What did she say wrong?
Exactly 💯
Dr. Los Angeles and Dr London, very rich from both of you to sit abroad and complain about attempts to solve a crisis. You both offer zero practical solutions, constantly point to the past... Haiti is under occupation crap, as if Haiti is the only country in the Caribbean that colonial powers would like to suppress. Dominican Republic is not in crisis, Trinidad is not, Jamaica is not.... You want to impress me, go on the ground with practical solutions. For now, until kids can go to school without bullets whizzing by, mothers can go do a hard day's work to feed them, Haitians are not crossing the Darian Gap, I am 100% in favor of this intervention. You all keep sipping wine while those on the ground that I'm in touch with everyday are sharing their pain.
Thanks for this simple sense. We only care about ordinary Haitians. Talk is cheap.
I'm a local, so why did they not arm the Haitians police to fight gangs? They are not Haitians. They are Kenyans, you making excuses for nonsense .
I totally agree with your point. These Talking heads have no solution. all of their nonsense is about the Haitian government and the United States as those civilians can't do anything without the government. I call that the Welfare States. where the civilians can't get off the government Teets to do anything for themselves. Do you think Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, and Bill Gates care about the government in creating a company and jobs?
@@decodedpsyopHaitian Police are selling weapons to those gangs! For years locals have complained of their corruption
@@willywealth5947 Haitians police have no weapons for themselves. The weapons are coming from Florida, there's embargo on Haiti fir weapons. The military weapons are straight from the US army
Let's go Haiti
Voodoo
Correction...the gsu have been well trained just like the army
So .. is this a good thing?
Faith, together with the panel, seems not to care that Haitians are dying. Gangs control 80%, and you talk of homegrown solutions. Haitians need all the help they can get for now
It's been 3weeks since Kenya police are there, they're afraid to face the gang, they are doing nothing. They said their mission is not to fight the gang.
That mean, Kenya just taking free money
For how much longer Kennedy? The country has been a powder keg for its 200yrs of existence the world is tired that they can never get their act together.
@@pietrojenkins6901 You learn this history from a math book maybe. Port au prince has a security problem, not Haiti.
For 200 years a country collapse and people still living there?
And Haiti still not poorest country in the world?
In this 200 years, Haiti help the whole latina america to become free from slave, give them weapons, food and minitions. Why every country that want to fight a superpower at this time, they come asking help to Haiti? For example Venezuela, Ecuador, Colombia... even Dominican Republic.
You don't know nothing about Haiti. Did you know the world superpower were united against Haiti after his freedom? Because everyone was afraid of this black nation.
Did you know Haiti ask to buy every black people in America?
You need to learn more about this country, one day that will be wise again.
@@kennedykariuki4289 Haitians needs helps from Haitians no one asked anyone to come to fight gangs, if you guys so desperate to fight gangs go to Uganda or Ecuador even better go fight gangs in your own country.
Putting brothers to fight against each other is crazy
Please Kenya 🇰🇪 polic is the name but we have more than you think
"...Dios estaba en (Jesucristo) reconciliando al mundo consigo mismo, sin tomar en cuenta sus pecados, y puso en nosotros la palabra de reconciliación." (Biblia - 2 Corintios 5:19)
Isn't Kenya also messed up??
Kenya 🇰🇪 shouldn't offer a solution to another nation as itself is technically a failed country.
Devastating corruption, impunity, and economic crimes is what characterises Kenya. ...soon there will be such gangs in Nairobi.
may God punish you for wiahing others to have such experiance. for your information you dont have facts about Kenya, whats happening in Kenya is just a democratic process. the only deaths that happend is as a result of some people commiting crime in the process of protest
againest finance bill.
may God punish you for wiahing others to have such experiance. for your information you dont have facts about Kenya, whats happening in Kenya is just a democratic process. the only deaths that happend is as a result of some people commiting crime in the process of protest
againest finance bill.
You are a fool.
Remember Somalia and South Sudan 🇸🇩 and that was Kenya
Where's barbecue.. BBQ 😂😂😂😂😂😂
He's wearing suits trying to be a politician now
Dr. Pierre is being selective in her arguments. Bottom line: she can go on and on about stopping US interference etc, but she’s not living the nightmare that so many Haitians are living. At this point, help could come from a planet from all I care. She needs the help that is vital to restoring some semblance of security, which is the first step towards progress. She knows damn well that Haiti cannot undo the level of instability and violence that it’s facing right now. Hypocritical!
BBQ where are you? The Kenyan army has taken over Port au Prince.
Kenya 🇰🇪 is not a super market place
The Kenyan mission to Haiti is a means for Haiti’s transitional government to give Haitians the time to work and build for themselves a working system of civil servants that are locally sourced.
As Dr. Pierre indicates, there should rightfully be some sort of outrage knowing that such a group was funded by the US. However, I would counter her points and the groups dialogue with a few questions.
How else should Haitians go about constructing a system by which to govern themselves?
There has been talk that after the Kenyan troops, Haiti will also receive aid from troops from Benin, Jamaica, South Africa, etc… this seems like a Pan African military response to a growing problem, would this mean the funders have the right intentions?
In light of the problem, Cherizier has called for a means to peaceful dialogue amidst the deployment of these troops, could this be the “first step” that is needed for Haitians to work towards the bigger picture of their nationality?
Thanks 🤝🏾🙏🏾
My friend you’re either uninformed or misinformed. The person who sets the fire 🔥 can not be the person who comes to extinguish the fire🚒. Haiti did not get there on its own, that may sound strange to you because of the false narratives you’ve been getting. It’s no longer a secret to anyone in Haiti 🇭🇹 .
One more thing Mrs Pierre is that I don't know how much you know about Cuba but a cook there only earns $30 a month, that is very very cruel if you think about all the mopping, prepping, cooking over hot ovens and stress that goes with the job!.. So there is anger by citizens and something tells me that they are not very eager to cooperate with government that want to use them.. so perhaps you can come up with a defense force from another country and suggest to the Cuban government to give these employees a good living wage before asking more from them? Haiti has been left alone but you can see how that has turned out.. They need inspiration from other countries and be able to organize themselves within their neighborhoods.
Haiti can not be fixed without intervention
Faith seems to know so much about law, but not too much about security
Wickid rawz dem
Kenya is not doing any mission in Haiti. Kenya is there to security ambassade American. That is Kenya mission not Haiti security. Kenya is doing a job for his boss.
My own gen z is there so
Kenya needs the money it’s always about the dollar bill 💵
1990
Ruko😢
Blablabla. Could have. Should have!! That is the wrong conversation. The Kenya Police are in Haiti. Let's stop living in the dream world and face reality. Beatrice for your information, Kenya sent troops to Kosovo and East Temor. As far a geography is concerned those two lcations are outside of Africa.
@@Dan13Speed they should go back to Kenya
Military not police
@@kennedyouma6138 Lol 😂 Police Stop being Police 🚓 once they become paramilitary, and they arm themselves with assault rifles, and drive around in MRAPs. These are no longer Policemen..
Haiti some times, too difficult to comment. There's a certain type of people , all we can do is violent protest in the worse way. Who is funding the gangs in Haiti, and why that cannot be traced and stopped. Somebody is fooling somebody.
America also installed kenyan president they also did the same in pakistan
That's gsu
LSK president Faith odhiambo is always against the government. So she can always oppose. For your information, it's not a usual police service officers deployed. Most of the ones who went to Haiti are special forces. Trained very well, snippers available in the mission too. So are gangsters snippers.. not really. Kenyan forces will be successful from the gangsters
Colonization
This woman has zero understanding of how people are suffering
in her own country. Stop complaining about a problem you have
no solution for.
Are you Haitians???? Now non Haitians that never been to Haiti understand what's going better then haitian themselves,???
@@decodedpsyop why don't you 'Haitians' solve your own problems!! US this, US that, go back and solve your own problems..
@@decodedpsyopas a Haitian, this commenter is 100% right. Keep remaining in denial.😂
@@decodedpsyop Why do you have to be Haitian to understand the security problem of a country. I'm Haitian and I agree with what he/she just said.
@@haitiancreolewithluciano do you know this woman ???? , do you know her personal life she's very active in political spectrum involving Haiti, if you would research her before commenting, you would have a better idea.
Wakenya wekamkaso
Faith is misinformed. Do your homework well my sister. Kenya has very highly trained special police units that have dealt with terrorism within kenya. Do your research well
"Why does US send Kenya instead of going in themselves?".. 🐙5 mins later🐙
"The US should not get involved with the daily lives of Haitians"...
When will Haiti blame Haiti?
Be proud of Kenya 🇰🇪 is the best
Mercenaries 😢
B.s. mission
Kenya should abandon Haiti, let the French empire handle their own damm issue in Haiti. In the name of Jesus Christ
Responding to president s lov like a terror
Boundaries my dear sisters, geographic , distance can't be excuses at this generation ...why don't kenya. reject grants from us .. Faith Odhiambo hypocrite
Kaka kap fèt
Constitution of Kenya allow deployment of police in foreign country if the other country sends theirs ...so I r talking to irritates who don't know what they are saying ...
This is a hates that created between Kenyans and Haitians no Kenyans will be allow to enter Haiti.
Fake news fake news
Police MAFIA
After listening to this conversation, I fail to understand what's in the mind of this Haitian lady pier. We understand that Haiti is disorganized and have fail to have responsible government to an extent that groups of gangster hovering around causing instability. Why does pier say that international community need to let Haitians find solution by themselves. Does she understand that she enjoys conducive environment in foreign country? If you can't plan or organize yourself, Then people will plan for you. Haiti is fallen state and international communities are out to give solution to the vulnerable Haitians who are deprived of their basic right and Kenya is part and parcel.
Do ur research well about the Kenyan police please lady before u open ur mouth to speak lies
This is one of thousand mistakes that will be the demise of Ruto.
Our president only cares about what is right. Not what people think about him.
If are no gangs as this women says, how comes we see women and children in camps? And herself not in Haiti but in safety in Canada/United States?
Women! nkt
There's been camps in Haiti since the earthquakes in 2010 ignorance is a bliss. You using your ignorance about the situation now to make assumptions.
Dear Talk Africa, the interview started well, but faded away due to pessimistic opinions. Next time, please bring in some optimistic interviewers with solutions.
@SasaMercy are you from that country? You think this world is all love and roses. There's 110 conflict and much more , do you have a solution for them?
6:09 Haiti itself its the one that asked for help because its police was overwhelmed, so far mood in the country is positive, the only people who are against this are the gangs.
Haiti simply cannot solve its own problems. They all are quick to say leave us alone but thats exactly what other countries have done and now Barbecue and the others now have 80% of the capital. I would ĺike to see this mission canceled. Just don't tell us what's happening their after it's cancellation
Don't ever talk about Haiti again, you don't know nothing about Haiti, ok.
It's 3 weeks, what your kenyan's police does? Nothing, they stay hiding in the safest part of the country, taking photos and videos, nothing more.
Every country has is own insecurity, people dying every day in every in the US, Canada etc.
Mass shooting every day in these 1st world country.
Haiti has no military, only 12 thousands police member for 12 millions people.
Haiti doesn't need Kenya ok. Can't you find 400 young men in Haiti?
Can't you find 1000 men in Haiti?
Well said. Haiti has been in turmoil ,poverty and instability for most of its 200yrs of self governance. Leave them alone and they'll soon be begging for intervention again.
@@pietrojenkins6901 precisely. The gangs/ freedom fighters would rejoice if this mission is called off.
Funny how non Haitians based everything how assumptions. Haiti was better off then a lot countries in the Caribbean 60 years ago. The US arms the gangs and now the Kenyans have to fight them .
You guys are making no sense , this have nothing to do with gangs. At this point you just trolling
They should have given the 400 million dollars to haiti.
So that it's misused by the corrupt politicians. Are you dumb?
Ruto is a disgrace.
Ruto or gangs killing children?
@@joshuambeya4336 or Netanyahu killing children. Why not send Kenyans to Israel? 🤡
By helping a black nation that needed help?
@@EmmanuelMotelinhelp being occupy by the west
This is a positive stride for our officers .The experience they gain from Haiti will be crucial in KPS trainings
Why don’t they let the police handle this? Why are soldiers invading I mean here to help haiti! 🤔🇭🇹
They want to rig the election, the mission is a smokescreen.
I cannot wait to get the first video of Kenyans down in Haiti, these Hamites are in the wrong place this time.
The so-called Haitians are Israelites not Hamites