Ford 7.3L Diesel Van - Utah to Oregon - Hightop Effect on MPG
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- Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
- This is a follow up to the video I did on the 7.3L Diesel van's performance on the way down to Utah for the hightop install by Wasatch Overland. In this video I will cover some of your comments on the 7.3L Diesel Ford van and review how the van handled after the high top installation and what kind of MPG we got on the way back.
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Your Primal Outdoors - Camping and Overlanding, I am living the van life in my Ford E350 4x4 Van traveling around the remote public land system in Oregon
That smile you had when you waved at Meagan at the rest stop, thats the smile of a happy man right there! Thanks for sharing this info, cheers Jason.
You can pump diesel yourself anywhere in Oregon, and in smaller towns you can pump your gas
Informative, great work Jason 👍💯
Thanks for taking us along on your trip. I’m enjoying a Pendleton on the rocks as I’m watching. Skillet.
Van looks sooo good with the high top and side flares!
Great channel Jason. Really enjoy it.
It makes me so happy seeing you two out and about together again. That high top mod is pretty cool. I'm glad it hasn't had any big adverse effects on mileage, handling, etc. I've really been considering getting a 4x4 suburban for light overlanding. a van conversion would be awesome, too but that's out of the budget for the short term. Maybe in another year or two after I pay off my daily driver and can free up those funds.
the last time I checked in with this channel, you were alone with your dogs and a tiny camping trailer. looks like things have changed pretty significantly
Nice job on the high top.
Looking forward to the interior build-out.
Happy Trails
You're correct about pumping the gas in Oregon, but diesel is not illegal to pump your own fuel in Oregon. no matter what I am born in Oregon I live in Oregon. That is one great thing of having a diesel truck. Hi from Springfield Oregon.
In Oregon you can pump your own Diesel fuel. You do not have to wait for an attendant. It's only gas fuel that requires an attendant.
I wish I had known that when I had a diesel! I wasted so much time waiting for attendants because I had dual tanks and often needed both filled.
It seems a little odd to NOT be able to refuel your own car. I work at the local Costco Gas Station and believe me when I say, most people are clueless as to proper safety. Probably would be a much safer place if I dispensed all the fuel. Also with the unbelievable amount of fuel that is spilled on the ground due to incompetence.....
@@Fingerprintguy It's suck a complicated job right, I'm sure a simple picture wouldn't suffice.
Great info, thanks for sharing
Nice video you guys..
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i liked your old outdoor videos (long time ago)
Thats cool I am glad you like those👍
that was quick ;) i just wanted to delete my comment@@PrimalOutdoors
Very good not bad at all good trade off be blessed
Nice to hear. Was interested in what the differences might be in the handling/driving experience. Especially with the wind.
I worked on the crew that drill and blasted the Carlin tunnels.
Bro, you're geeking out on the detes!
Thank-you for the info, this is fantastic!
Your welcome
The big thing I noticed on my high top is that the cross winds will push you around more. But I don't notice until the crosswinds get up around 30mph. I'm in an RB e250 with the 4.8 and get 15mpg also.
We always install egr probes at collector at end of manifold log. It’s a measurement of all the exhaust energy from all cylinders on that side.
K.C. Turbos makes an awesome retrofit kit for the sxe turbo. Which is way more efficient and will lower egts and get a boost in power.
Install thermocouple on manifold directly below up pipe. Your egt seems high, at cruise I run 650 and 1K on hard uphill pull and wait till 300 to shut down. Also u need 4.10 gear at min w/ 35s. I use DP tuner, kc turbo upgrade and a 4" diamond eye exhaust system.
Ha! I was just at that rest area in Orovada yesterday on my way back from Washington. Wish I could have met you in passing, at the least!
While the convenience of a hightop cannot be ignored, there is nothing that looks better than a 4x4 van with a standard roof! Hands down way sexier anyday than a sprinter/transit/promaster.
Yep, I had a standard length E350 with a 410ci Windsor and Ford F-350 swapped 4wd. Even with 33” tires I BARELY fit through fast food drive-thrus and banks.
@@RadDadisRad i just missed an opportunity at one of the cleaner 350s for sale, couldnt sell my sedan in time! Im 5'9' so I can see myself being ok with the standard look as well
Yep, buying a Chevy van with the new 6.6 L . I’m afraid the van will be discontinued in the near future ? Getting mine now. I think the Euro vans stink
@@RadDadisRad I got a high top, a 6" lift, 35" tires and a roof rack. I still fit in some drive thrus at least.
I love Oregon but the whole Gas station thing is absolutely aggravating I agree.
Great info! I just still drive it like I stole it, and the mileage I get is what it is. (Around 12, F250, tall shell)
totally recognized the rest stop at 4:15...Orovado Rest Stop....spent a few hours getting some sleep there before heading on to Rome to gas up and explore Owyhee Canyon area.....it's a pretty gross restroom lol
Since getting my hightop I personally have lost a lot of weight because my van won't fit in McDonald's drive thru. My other 7.3 Sportsmobile had a Fiberine Cruiser top and it got about 10mpg and it had 3.55 gears but no performance mods just bone stock.
Hello Jason and Megan .
Hey there. I bought a 2007 dodge sprinter a few weeks back, it has a 3.0L diesel in it. At the Fred Meyer in Eugene they told me because it’s diesel I have the option of pumping my own fuel. I didn’t know 😲
I have no problems paying a little extra at the pump to have the ability to stand up to put my pants on, not to mention standing up in the van to cook on cold winter days. 👍🏻😎
You can pump your own diesel in Oregon. I live in Cornelius and I do it myself everywhere except Fred Meyers. Several ARCO's around here make diesel owners pump there own fuil.
Yep, the law about an attendant filling for you is specific to _gasoline_
Diesel wins again! Having someone else pump gas/fuel for me is just weird. Glad I found this out before I make my trip.
@@lummoxoverlandadventures1072 just because its legal dont be suprised if some places won't let you. They will say it has to do with insurance.
Idling is also good for the turbo if you shut it off after driving the turbos will not get the oil it needs and you'll prematurely wear out the bearings
Yay!
I'm running a 99 E350 with a 7.3. It's a High top box van dually 2wd. I use it as a mobile mechanic shop. It weighs 14klbs and I average around 8-10mpg if I keep my foot out of it.
I got fuel in Oregon one time on my way through. But I was in a reservation area at the time so I didn't have to wait for an attendant. I didn't even know that was a thing in Oregon
Nice van!
It would be nice to work on in IC.
For reference, my 99.5 F350 supercab weighs in at 7900. Hydrachip, 4 inch exhaust, and intake.
Running a Lance 815 I was getting about 13-14 mpg.
Empty and cruise set around 68 (wherever 1800 rpms is ) I can touch 20 mpg.
Also, I always put my egt probe in after the primaries in the collector.
From my 2002 - 7.3 stock motor as far as I know: below is the mpg I get with average flat highway conditions
55-60 mph = 19/20+ mpg average
60-65 mph = 16/18 mpg average
65-75 mph = 12/15 mpg average
The odometer is at 360k and running strong.
I had a work truck with tool body diesel tools in body. I was lucky to get 16 miles to gallon with the 7.3.
I have a 2007 chevy express 2500 it has the 4.8 just drove to Florida from Maryland then back. My Trans was slipping yet doing around 70 miles a hour I got 20 to 25 mile to gallon. I'm very happy with this van.
I'm getting ready to work on the Trans this weekend.
After I get the inside built I'm gonna work on making it 4x4.
I been looking for a high top at the junk yard. Don't want a real high one.
Jason, use diesel kleen fuel additive. I use it in all my diesels they run much better. Helps mpg also.
In OrEgon, you CAN pump your own "gasoline" into a motorcycle or scooter (passed in 2002).
Also, as Brando Davis mentioned in his comment, you CAN pump your own diesel fuel. So, if you WANT to wait for someone else to pump it, go ahead. But you are NOT required to allow someone else to pump your diesel.
Fueling ("GAS") stations can be fined $500, per pumpage, if they allow someone to pump their own gasoline. THAT's why they get testy when people pump, or attempt to pump, their own gasoline.
I find that many attendants around Portland seem to place greater importance on the D-Bag in the G-Wagon than my service van that was there first. So my rule is if I wait longer than 3 minutes to get started with pumping or others who arrived after me get serviced first, I just start pumping gas myself. I get some weird looks from the staff, but no one seems to want confrontation.
Some attendants actually think that a business-vehicle driver pumping their own gas is allowed at gas stations open to the public. It's only at card-lock stations, but their ignorance is to my advantage. 😎
@@tinygnat Special!
I wonder if they make a spoiler that will fit? At the minimum they have designs that reduce the dust you kick up around the vehicle which helps reduce the amount of dust getting in the cab & on the vehicle, and hopefully it can also help to improve mileage.
I hope you do an intercooler setup on the 7.3 van. I would love to see what you figure out. I want to run one myself someday
A water to air intercooler and cut it in the charge air pipe. It’ll be the easiest solution to integrate.
Have a super high roof Sprinter - it definitely catches wind. I think hers is a little shorter...
I know in Southern Nevada, speed limit is actually 70. In Northern Nevada more specificially on I-80 I believe its 80. either way like the video.
Banks power and Mishimoto have intercooler kits for the 7.3.
So much to think about with a diesel 🤯 but Im fully aware of the benefits.
One doesn't own a hightop 4x4 overland van with the best engine(7.3 TD) and really even talk about mpg or how it handles on the intertstate.... Lol. Very awesome platform here folks!
One talks about the greatest motor and reliability 🎉so others know the wisdom 🦉
Stock is the most dependable. Leave it alone and just drive it. That's what I did with mine and it ran beautifully
The EGT probe could be further back, but its fine there.
You already caught yourself with the "gas" comment 😂 us diesel peeps call it fuel and you are allowed to pump it yourself in Oregon. (in case no one told you that aready lol!) Guess you'll just have to get a diesel now buddy👍
I was told by a few gas station workers that I could pump diesel just not gas. I found this out by doing it completely forgetting and they told me it was ok.
Run 65 you'll be happy
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Where did you get your edge monitor? I can’t find one for the e350 7.3! It’s an 03, I contacted edge the say they don’t make anything for the e350. Thanks 🙏
I have driven the Ford 7.3 diesel van a lot. Im surprised the EGTs were that high at highway speed not seemingly carrying any load just the top added. Am I missing something here ir did she put performance mods that are creating these high temps?
Water to air inter cooler and just cut it into the charge air pipe.
You can pump your own diesel in Oregon. That fuel law only includes Class I fuels which diesel does not fall under as it is a Class II fuel. Pump away!
🇬🇧 Hi Jason, I don’t want to piss you off but I own a VW T5 van which I have done some work on it’s a 2.5 diesel with about 175 hp and I get 37 to the gallon at 70 mph, but as vans go it is not that large.
or 4 wheel drive but that is great mileage👍
The only exception for pumping fuel in Oregon is diesel, you can pump your own on that and a lot of places here in state are now self serve I have noticed, madras and Biggs junction for example.
For gasoline that is
In Oregon, due to how the law was written on pumping gas, you can pump your own diesel. I pump my own diesel all the time!
Curious, if petition 13 passes in Oregon which will make it illegal to consume meat in Oregon will you finally leave the state ??
Not ALL gas stations in Oregon do you have to wait for an attendant to pump. Many remote places (like you were at) allow for the customers to pump gas. A law was passed a couple of years ago that allows this.
In addition, my gas station allows customers with motorcycles and "collectible/historic etc cars
to pump their own fuel.. as I do with my 63 MGB.
So Oregon resident, Wash state native. I really do not like waiting and I do care about attendants banging the nozzle against by vehicle and spilling fuel. Maddening.
Sounds like your new tires are 10% bigger making your odometer 10% slow. This means your speedometer is also 10% slow. If it read 70mph, you were actually doing 77mph.
That is true but the Edge tuner accounts for the tire size and give us an adjusted speed so we go off off that so we were going 70.
Jason
The vans could never get the airflow out from under the body for a large intercooler. A lot less grill, and the airflow out is a nightmare.
You can pump your own diesel in OR it is a liability for the the gas stations.
Banks makes an intercooler kit for the 7.3 f series. Bet that would fit the fancy van.
Does not unfortunately the trucks and the vans are completely different.
Jason
@@PrimalOutdoors dang
What happened to this van? Later videos show a 5.8
What's the cost of adding a high top?
From what I've heard about $4K
Great video but just enjoy the van and your gal. Don’t think or get into the van and it’s issues that are not their
Ok buddy u need to know use fuel or diesel fuel not gas ok