5 Toxic Drummer Habits You Must Avoid at All Cost
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Here are the 5 worst musical habits that drive bandmates nuts. Make sure you’re not guilty of any of these! The great thing, though, is that there’s a single overarching tip that solves all of this. After breaking down these 5 toxic habits, I give you my core belief about the role of the drummer - which ultimately solves all of this. Follow this #1 rule, and you’ll be just fine.
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Alternative solutions:
A: get rid of the vocalist
B: Be the vocalist as the drummer
I had to get rid of everyone in the band just bc they were holding me back like sometimes I really wanted to just whisper the drum parts and they’d be like oh that’s to quiet or oh ur too loud and the vocalist would be like dude that’s to fast or to slow and I was like “think Dave grohl” now I’m the band I changed the name to “the band”
C: Play instruMETAL
lmao
Sounds like an idea I have of being the drummer and sometimes doing lead vocals and some times backing vocals
The Rev did just that
Is it a hint when your bandmate sends you this video? Asking for a friend.
Possibly
😂😂
I don't think it would be hinting that you're bad. I think its more saying here's some things that might make life better. Coming from a non-drummer idk lol. tbh i dont even know why im watching lmao
I played years ago when there were no Mikes, no clicks to keep the beat, you didn't learn songs that killed originality, but we had a lovely time. No thump or crashes. But today drummers are technically better.
Lmao
3:50 "Your job as the drummer is to transition the band from one part into the next...", "So that leads into our next point..." I see what you did there, smart guy.
I do too now. Thanks for transitioning me from not realizing!
“The drums can get pretty boring as a solo instrument, but if you play the right things and support the music and play songs rather than beats, they have infinite possibilities. They can take people to other places.” - Danny Carey (Tool)
I think this doesn't just apply to a drummer.This should go to all the musicians out there.
Thumbs up!
Thanks. I'm a musician.
Yep.
Exactly
Got to play to the music. Ringo wasn't great because he was a skilled drummer, he played to the music and made unique simple parts.
You could and should have stopped at "Ringo wasn't great..."
Ringo was garbage
The Beatles in general r trash😂
@@jamesmartin7619 without taking away from "their contribution" to the world, I see them as entry level musicians with rich and powerful promotors, yet the music lacks power, emotion, skill, variety, and is very bland. I think the reason for the mob-mentality of bandwagon incest is that nobody feels threatened by the musical integrity; anybody can learn their songs and play them easily, and people feel "safe" knowing that "everybody else likes them". Yawnsauce
@@jamesmartin7619 I might get some hate for this...but the only difference between the beatles and Dave cashews Band is that dcb has actual musicians...not that they are even using any of it in their boring cookie cutter musical abominations, but they could theoretically play decent music if they weren't complete toolbags of sellouts. It's almost as if they took the formula of the beatles, and applied it to modern times. "Generic yet catchy sounding? Check. No intensity? Check. Appeal to the largest group possible while not admitting we are dumbing down our music? Double check. Put none of our passion behind any of it? Half check because lazy. Stay middle of the road as to not push any boundaries, offend anyone, nor be truly original in any way? Check's in the mail. Beginner level musicians? Umm.... Actually no, so let's make sure never to come anywhere close to what we are capable of, because we want our fans thinking they are actually better than we are lol- oh but I'ma use weird tuning to make it seem like it's mystical so they still have a hard time grasping the depth of my soul.."
That and David's voice is irritating in a way that only a deaf person could appreciate. David? Is his full name David? Lol
My wife started playing drums yesterday! I'm her tech, researcher, and guide into learned the instrument. Thank you for the superb channel. This is going to be a great resource for us.
Go slow, watch other drummers and listen to songs. Listen to thousands of songs.
The band will only trust you if you: 1) Keep the tempo strong and tight, and 2) If you know the song inside and out. You are the first person they will look at if things go wrong!
Watching this after putting my bass pedal through my bass drum head....... I think that may be my cue to play a bit quieter
I mean it was a 4 year old head but still
Great advice for a musician, this makes a huge difference between a drummer and a musician.
These videos are always super helpful to all levels of players. Sometimes we need a reminder. Thanks man!
Solid tips, Stephen! I lead worship at church, lead vocals and guitar, and I can advocate having that connection with your drummer is so important. Our worship set lists never go as planned 100%. We may do an impromptu extra bridge, chorus, or we may want to bring the song down early. Paying attention to your vocalist, looking for head nods, eye contact, body language, etc. eliminates any extra hits when the rest of the band has quit planning. Doesn’t matter if it’s at church, a jazz bar, or a metal concert, science proves an extra drum hit once the song is over makes nations of babies cry. Like you said, the bass, guitar and other instrumentalist maybe in a whole other dimension, but as long as the drummer and vocalist are on the same page, you’ll be all right.
Hand cues are great for that. In a perfect world or a perfect band you should be able to extend a solo or chorus is the spirit grabs a hold of you, or bring something down or cut it short if needed.
Super useful in praise and worship bands. Or jam bands or funk bands. 👍
I always (as keys/ usually music director) use closed fist for "last time/end it" and spinning finger for "keep it going" (like a 3rd base coach waiving in a runner)
Stephan, I'm a conga player, and I think this is a great lesson for us hand drummers as well. Thanks!
Zen and the art of being in a band. This advice could be applied to a lot of different situations. You’re a master - thank you. Also great demo faces 😂
I'm not even a drummer but I'll watch this for sure
It’s true I don’t know what I’m playing until Sunday morning.
Same... I'm glad I was raised in the church to know songs already by heart before I even learned the drums
@@danj8038 Ha, hey Dan, there are many that we know by heart, the classics are not a problem. Our song book is a large three ring binder. Guessing, but 300+ songs in our library and growing.
Currently can't really apply some of this (still just getting started with learning the drums),
but this will definitely be applicable.
If you are just learning drums Stephen's #5 needs to be your #1... Play to the room. If you are blowing everyone off the stage playing too hard and loud you won't be in the band for very long. We, as drummers, are one cog in the wheel, not the entire wheel. Play with that in mind.
Go slow, take your time and listen to the songs! I took a break and learned songs and watched other drummers for about 6 months and that's when I began to grow. Other people began saying WOW!
Dude, that pdf is exactly what ive been craving for to continue my Growth
One more: Don't play the pornhub intro all the time!
Definitely
Im getting a electronic drum set soon and I am devoted to making that my first rythm to play
That's literally the drummer in my jazz band 😂😂
Great video! I like your philosophical approaches and tips. It's important to not only be a well-rounded player, but a well-rounded and perceptive human being as well. Happy drumming!
Love your videos and I have improved so much since I have been watching your videos and applying your teaching.
On point, Stephen.
Excellent as always actually! Thanks from Germany.
Love all your vids, never had proper education and I’ve been playing for 15 years, I’m still horrible and I need a lot of help. Thank you for all your educational videos man. Really helping me out
ALWAYS be friend with the sound guy! 👍
Love your videos - keep going mate!
I like these videos because you're confirming things that my band mates have been telling me to work on. Thanks
Great video Stephen!. Keep posting more. Thanks!
I lear so much from you man, these advices are so sweetly helpful
Thank you so much you are by far my favorite drum teacher
Excellent, thanks Stephen! Fantastically useful vid.
Absolutely right. Great video!!
I am in number five but I guess the tip is to serve the music, serve the context and hear well what is around you
Fun Exercise!! if you can't actually say out loud "chorus 2 3 4" " Bridge 2 3 4" durning the transition fill work on it. It really helps to simplify the fill to where it is feels great to the rest of the band, as well as simplifies some overly complicated fills depending on how comfortable you are with them. Great vid man!
Good teacher, may God bless you more
#2 is superb. Well done, Ste lad
Awesome work Mr. Clark!!
As a friend of mine used to say, a great drummer will carry your band a lot farther than it deserves to go.
case in point: Dave Lombardo with Slayer
White stripes😀
@@yaroslooove Meg White's drumming is ragged af and it fits TWS like a glove.
Hey enjoyed and agreed with your experience and verbal walk through
Great advice. Spot on.
Gospel truth on these tips! You've articulated a lot of my own thoughts in a very applicable and thoughtful way, and I'll definitely be referencing this video for my own students and fellow drummers I mentor at my church. Great stuff dude!
Thanks! This helps a lot!
So... Vocalists are the toxic mistakes that drummers can make huh?
Vocalists ARE mistakes.
Ok number 4 is so true. Last night was my first show in 3 years (I had quit drumming for like 2) I had 3 days to learn 14 songs in a genre I never listen to. Fortunately when I did drum, I played a lot of open stages so I pulled it off but I had no clue what was going on.
Hey. I just watched your vid and it very informative. Subscribed!!!
Great tips! Agree with everything. If you want to be a soloist, be a soloist, but if you want to be the drummer in a band, follow these tips. I’ve always been able
to join bands by knowing the songs inside and out but being able
to lead while listening. Rock on!
I love these tips, fantastic 👍🏻👍🏻
Great advice Stephen! Listen listen listen! 🥁❤
Fantastic UA-cam channel
8 months down learning the drums
Amazing advices! Keep it up!
#5 As a non-drummer who considers drumming : I always thought we had to turn ourselves up to match the drums and not the other way around (and that's probably true to some extent for the reasons you mentioned). If we're all wearing earplugs that roll off the sound, and have to yell to hear each other over them, then that's no fun.
#4 I know, right ;)
As for the master-tip, well that applies to every instrument I guess. I think Wooten gives a similar advice.
Great video bro. Very good tips.
I really enjoy your videos. They are very helpful
First of all, THANK YOU, Stephen! You've put out some really helpful content with honesty and simplicity. I've been playing drums since I was about 7 or 8 years old but never having my own kit until after high school. I sat in with blues and roots/Americana acts, had jam sessions, and played with a rock band for about 7 years in my late-20s to mid-30s. However, I never quite had the confidence and commitment to stick with it through life's ups and downs. I have been stuck in phase 4 since I was about 19. I've always felt like I could be a much better drummer if I just devoted myself to working on my technique more, especially my grip. I stopped playing about 7 years ago when I was forced to sell the second kit I ever owned (both were used, "Frankenstein" kits). Just this past week, I got the first brand new drum set I've ever owned, at age 41. As I began to work the fundamentals on a pad, waiting for my kit to be delivered, I found your UA-cam channel. You've been helping me to regain what I lost, and already I am seeing some slight improvements in a few areas that you helped me focus on. I hope to start a band or join one as soon as this health crisis subsides, and I already know I will be more relaxed the next time I get on stage! Thanks again, keep up the good work!
Good lord, this video is CRAMMED with super-useful and practical advice... for free! Other people make entire paid courses that, condensed down, don't have half as much relevant content as this one video. Great stuff, Stephen. Thank you
Excellent presentation!
All solid points! Great advice. With 29 years of experience, I can verify all of these to be true.
Thanks again Stephen for obvious but often neglected tips! My band will love you 😉 By the way, I started the Song Learning Course and I can recommend it to all drummers that are in a band and not professional for a very long time. Covers band or original music, this will help you better understand songs and be better prepared to support your band like explained in this UA-cam video. 👍 But there are no short cuts and you have to put in the time, otherwise forget about it.
This was very helpful thank you
Returning drummer after 14 year hiatus. This is great renewing information. Thank you
Numbers 4 and 3 are words to live by! My two biggest values in drumming
The fill advise was really helpful
Good video, thank you!
really good tips!
you're a real pro
Thanks Stephen. 😎
Good stuff! I read years back that the biggest compliment a drummer (or any musician really) can get is they have big ears.
Good attitude, listening carefully and solid time has carried me and my mediocre skills a long way!
biggest compliment I've been paid was for people to wait until the singer was out of hearing range and then compliment me.
Definitely agree with #4
yeah #3 is my issue I constantly have to work on because 90% of what my band does are originals. #2 also when I change from hi hats to ride I speed up with out realizing it, after watching "Whiplash" I understood why the instructor was complaining about his timing being off.
Thank you!! 🙏👍
Love this video!
Thank you this reminded me that as a drummer you don’t need to have these wacky so called impressive fills you just gotta make the band sound better
Really good tips my man.
Great advice.
Very good!
Love your videos .
I'm not a very good drummer. Can't do a paradiddle. Don't even know what a rudiment is. Never had time to practice. That's my excuse. Recently hooked up with some good guitar players. They like the songs I write. So I told them. Everything works off the vocals.
They keep calling me wanting to know if I wrote another song yet.?
Somehow it's working.
All great advice here. You’ve got to be flexible!
Me who has never played drums: interesting
Point #2..
This song we have my synth arp, and the matter was the sync.
But it was 160 bpm. Our live version had me and lead guitar starting at the same time looking at each other and then he adjusted his tempo immediately, then drummer followed the lead guitar.
In the studio version, I enter after a couple of measures, but live, it was easier to start simultaneously, cause I don't think my arpeggio would adjust flawlessly to the guitar.
This video is very useful
Having played in many bands for over 35 years and always been called back I think I probably have the right habits.
With the 3rd point I literally feel like being spoken to like that guy from Cool Runnings, like you have to know every single turn, all lives of the whole crew are in your hands man:D
Great video, great tips. It's not about you or me, its about the song.
This 'old guy's admission:' I get bored easily - so my biggest challenge over the years, especially when playing relatively new songs, has always been to choose The Groove and keep with it for the entire song. I don't think the band appreciates it (grin) when I start trying new things they haven't heard before in rehearsal! D'oh!! Great video and channel. Thanks for sharing.
This video had very good advice
When in my band "most" of the time it was a PA system. None of the instruments were miked! I mean my Guitfiddlest was up to 11 along w/ the bassist!!! The only thing I could go off of was the vocals!!! Sad but true!!!!
This video called me out so hard it made me subscribe
Great tips
Good list. I would even add to it... When writing songs, and the rest of the band stops... Stop playing! There's nothing more annoying then trying to discuss if a transition feels clunky, or not the right transition, ect and your all yelling and discussing a conversation and one of the musicians keeps going. I had a hand motion that i did to tell all musicians to stop playing. And anyone could do that hand motion at any time if they wanted a discussion.
Hey SClark I'm a guitarist - who sometimes visits drum pages - Funny thing is - us guitarists think 120 DB is still not very loud at all.
Must be the Marshall Amps. HA ; ) Cheers from Michael T in L.A. (ha ha ha)
I don't play any instrument but love the drums.....still interesting!!!!
I play guitar and bass too. I have made 4-track recordings where I've played all the instruments. 🎸🥁
number one: having a vocalist
#1 is something I agree with so much!! If there’s no communication on stage then what’s the point. I’m happy to say I’ve only ever made 2 of these mistakes once. Playing too loud in certain rooms and having the sound guy get pissed off at me (only been playing 2 years at that time though hehe) and sadly not learning the song enough. Played this Cuban song with my band at our college performance and completely forgot the second cut-off in the chorus and continued playing the loud groove. Half a bar in I look up to see all the band mates staring at me not playing....one of the biggest embarrassments in my music playing. 😂
Funny thing about your point #1, I saw Chevelle in 2002 in Dallas and during their song Point #1 the singer's guitar cut out and he didn't keep singing and so they didn't follow the singer.
The drums are like any other instrument. There is a time to bang and a time to soften your groove. Play to the music, every song is not a drum solo. Be the back beat. Transition the band. Always find the one
Great tutorial Sir 🌟🌟
Haha Good one bro !
Greetings from Germany
Gutentagen
One more bad habit, and I’ve seen this with very seasoned drummers, that is: start the song at one tempo and end in another (be it fast or slower).
Your YT faces on your cover images are the best.:^)
I played for a non-professional gospel choir for a while, and there was it that I learnt about team play. They would forget parts, mess up the tempo or once they missed two quarter notes entirely, and the singers are the masters in this case. We gotta adapt.
Listen to this guy he's gonna teach you something
Yeeee, i have all of this mistakes (
As soon as I heard there was this one overarching tip, I immediately thought to myself it's probably listening. Man do I feel proud of myself.
My unpopular opinions.
#5 I think is also determined by the genre you are playing. With the smaller room.... The tech should not use overheads, the rest of the mics with cover it.
#2 a band is like a relationship.... Communication is the way to a healthy relationship.
Good videos! Just hope drummers listen