@@Rimzler The copper should get saturated after reapplying a time or two though, so in the long run it shouldn't be an issue. Also, according to some statements, creating a foam dam around the die not only helps preventing spills, but also seems to help prolonging the life span of the liquid.
After initial liquid metal application, it took about a year for it to "dry" up and got over temping. I cleaned the old stuff and re applied and haven't had an issue in years. I think it's cause the initial application created a barrier for the second.
The solder remover looks very interesting! I'm putting the same liquid metal on the CPU of my Asus g14 (2021). Never done it before. I'm nervous! But I have faith that I can do it tomorrow
I just did this exact thing to my Legion 7 Gen5 (10750H/2070Super) Same before as you, even with 2 less cores than the 10875, constant thermal issues from the day I got it. It's still powerful enough to throttle and still hang, but I got tired of not getting full performance. I tried a couple thermal pastes before setlling on LM. None of the pastes helped, maybe a 2-3c drop. With the LM applied I haven't seen it go beyond like 84c now. Clocks are sustained. Just a much better machine now. Wish I'd done it sooner. Just don't apply too much lol...I even put it on the GPU.
I also apply liquid metal to my laptop but I put both XD. Before and after CPU stress test: 88W 95°C to 82°C INGAME: Heavy both GPU: 84°C to 72°C (150-165W) CPU: 97°C to 88-92°C (40-60W) INGAME: Medium like GTA V GPU: 83°C to 70°C (130-165W) CPU: 89°C to 81-85°C (35-45W)
I think when you use liquid metal at GPU the heat from GPU take all the cooling from CPU that's why ingame the result CPU still got high temp especially when game use a lot of GPU and CPU like Horizon New Dawn.
Nice, it's indeed a bit risky.... but looks like a good appliance :D Laptops are prone to thermal throttling, the score increase you got is immense though!
@@saadhussain6514 dude actually amazing. I did redo it over and over about 5 times to learn the right amount. But 20c lower on average on cpu. 10c lower on gpu. My zephyrus rates top 90th percentile for like builds on performance. And for safety purposes considering it’s conductivity. I used clear nail polish over the contact points over the sides of the die of the GPU and after applying the Liquid Metal to the dies. I used normal thermal paste on the far outside of the gpu chip not on the metal on the plastic to create a barrier to prevent any leaks. The CPU I didn’t have to do this with as it was designed for Liquid Metal and has its own barrier designed into it with some fabric that prevents seepage. I couldn’t recommend it more. I did it so many times to get an idea of how to do it best and safest and just how much to apply. Lots of people say to apply the Liquid Metal to the die and heatsink. I did that the first time. The last time I did not. And there are no differences in temps between the two ways in my experience. I honestly feel you’re safer doing just the die as you don’t have as much Liquid Metal used and therefore less risk of it leaking out and damaging other components.
Bro, glad that I found your video. I recently got Asus ROG Strix 17 SE (12950HX + 3080ti GPU) and CPU is sitting at 95 C most of the time, even under light loads. I tried everything, but I think they somehow failed with LM application to CPU, so I plan on reapplying it and applying it to GPU too with some extra safety measures. I am curious how your laptop works rn, 10 months in, and how are your thermals :)
I got a Strix 15 with a Ryzen 5800H, I made sure to disable turbo boost cause it is not always needed in some games. Makes it run way cooler and quieter! And not losing any fps in GPU bound games
@@Kiekerr Yeah, I changed LM on GPU. I found out that my gpu is already with LM on it when cracked laptop open. So it was prepared, with foam lm capturers, and everything but chip hidden behind finisher. Looking on how LM was everywhere around I wouldnt recommend putting LM on laptops unless they are properly prepared by it by either manufacturer or owner.
on my Rog Strix Scar g733cx - i9-12950HX, did apply liquid metal on both, cpu and gpu. I must say that CPU temps went down by 25c, factory coverage of LM on chip was very poor.
I was tired of laptop's temp always get high 80°C+ even when i play some indie games and 95°C while heavy gaming so i ended up with a tower cooler applied directly to cpu and gpu surface and suprisingly it worked so well temp never pass 70°C while heavy gaming, the tower cooler is very hot when i touch it.
So apparently the problem of liquid metal seeping out from between the contact points is not limited to aftermarket applications. I think if you plan to use liquid metal in a laptop, you better not carry that laptop around much and when you do decide to carry it, you should let it cool down completely first. The liquid metal moving out onto the mobo is usually what kills the device and not improper installation. Liquid metal is not worth the risk in a portable application.
My xps 15 7590 hits 99 - 101° on some cores during fortnite. Lol. This is with a fan pad, max internal fan curve. Even with an undervolt when that was possible. Repasted with thernal grizzly paste not metal. Would love to try liquid metal but can't risk it, cant get a new laptop if i break it so yeah. Its amazing how capable laptops are though. I also play Deus Ex, an incredibly poorly optimized and thus demanding game but on low settings get a solid and playable 50fps. 4k display, reduce to 1080 and yeah she plays. I only wish I'd been in the market now. If I'd got the latest XPS rtx4060 with the vapor chamber, I'd be stoked! As always i rush ahead and screw myself. Gtx 1650 vs an rtx 4060 - 80.. vapor chamber options. Can only dream
The good market is coming in 1/2 years imho, 3/2 nm chips are at the door, improved cooling solution as well, like those super cool solid state blowers, can't wait!
Hello, thank you for your guidance and hints. I want to ask that how long does it take since you buy this laptop? I agree that thermal paste was bad condition. However there is a belief that liquid metal thermal paste (LM) has endless lifespan. Is it true? What are you thinking about that. Since LM's are used on laptops, thermal conditions get well. laptops come with LM, already comes with good processor insulation on motherboard. I believe that some home users should be more brave to reapply this LM :). Thanks. (LM) (LM)
hi you need to limit processor to 99% Right click the Start menu and select Control Panel. Click Hardware and Sound. Select Power Options. Find Processor power management and open the menu for Minimum processor state. Change the setting for on battery to 99%. Change the setting for plugged in to 99%.
@@carlosrito it will reduce performance in CPU bound games like warzone. I have tried. It is basically handicapping CPU for lower thermals. If you are not gaming, then its fine
Hello Rimzler, I am very curious on trying liquid metal. how is your LM application on your laptop today? Also, I would like to know how it looks or any situation to take note since I also wanted to try it on my old laptop and will mostly carry it everywhere I go. Hoping for your response. Thanks!
Still using it to edit videos on, still runs cool and I'm satisfied! Be sure to avoid spilling and maybe dam the surrounding area to prevent shortcircuits, remove battery when doing it
@@Rimzler Good to hear! Actually, I applied LM last night and the application went well, heck yeah! However, results were not that worth it which is expected. So.... *Lesson of the day: * *LM is not worth applying on laptops without custom fan profiles. * Since these laptops' fan levels ramps up only with certain temperatures. Pros: - my laptop run cooler on idle and normal use. In fact, and surprisingly, the fans is not spinning or runs slower than usual. - 3%-5% performance boost (LM is definitely a factor aiding my undervolted profile on achieving higher clock speed while throttling due to the crap fan system.) - theoretically, longer battery life, since the fans runs slower if not idle. Cons: Nothing much actually. just... effort not worth it, after all the shebangs. The whole process makes you anx. I don't think that the LM will leak out or move around much since, i found out that less LM is more than enough to help the heatsink absorb heat faster. just apply little/enough amount on contact points and ur good. Unit: UX333 (Zenbook 13) i5-8250u + mx150 (10w, bruh what a deal breaker.) That's all, hope this helps other to save their time and resources. Enjoy laptop life!!
@@AAP2023 i was planning to buy the G15 and one of the plans was to undervolt the CPU because i knew that the G15 runs hot. In my current laptop i use Throttlestop to undervolt the CPU, not from the bios, if the update you are talking about forbids this process, then this is new to me🥲. I know that you can undevolt some computers from the bios it self, yet others you can’t.
@@kanshashiteiru6552 tbh dell laptops have a really badly designed heatsink and cooling layout, I would go with a different brand. I have actually jusy unlocked undervolting via editing the bios with grubx64 but even with undervolting to -100mv and liquid metal on the CPU it's still reaching around 85 - 90c while on a laptop cooling pad.
What about those VRMs not sure if that's what they are called( those black cubes) around the GPU which had thermal paste? are we supposed to re-paste them too?
i just put liquid metal on my alienware m15 r6 11800h/3080/32gb(r2)/3tb/240hz/qhd and my temps droped like 30c with an insane difference, i recon its almost as fast as a desktop rtx titan ☺️🥳
The tolerances are too tight on Asus gaming laptops to allow for thermal pads on the VRMs (chips that have the blue thermal paste on them). I know this because I have a g14 that has the same stuff applied to these chips.
The amount of thermalpaste you put is crazy lol
Like a bird shat on it with bad diarrhea 😂
I believe they went with nickel plated because with only copper overtime the liquid metal get "absorbed" and it'll need a repaste
Very true! Copper gets soaked and needs repaste
@@Rimzler The copper should get saturated after reapplying a time or two though, so in the long run it shouldn't be an issue. Also, according to some statements, creating a foam dam around the die not only helps preventing spills, but also seems to help prolonging the life span of the liquid.
After initial liquid metal application, it took about a year for it to "dry" up and got over temping. I cleaned the old stuff and re applied and haven't had an issue in years. I think it's cause the initial application created a barrier for the second.
The solder remover looks very interesting! I'm putting the same liquid metal on the CPU of my Asus g14 (2021). Never done it before. I'm nervous! But I have faith that I can do it tomorrow
Solder removers are cheap and worth having
@@justinTime077 I did it! It runs about the same, but the fans kick on less
whats the temp difference i wanna try doing it on my laptop
@@fazemoti2755 For me, the temps remained the same, but the fans were noticibly quieter
Did you ever repaste in this last year or only fan cleaning? Does the temps same?
I just did this exact thing to my Legion 7 Gen5 (10750H/2070Super) Same before as you, even with 2 less cores than the 10875, constant thermal issues from the day I got it. It's still powerful enough to throttle and still hang, but I got tired of not getting full performance. I tried a couple thermal pastes before setlling on LM. None of the pastes helped, maybe a 2-3c drop. With the LM applied I haven't seen it go beyond like 84c now. Clocks are sustained. Just a much better machine now. Wish I'd done it sooner. Just don't apply too much lol...I even put it on the GPU.
What happen to the temp. before and after?? That's the most important result we want to see.
Temp is lower and clock is higher, i should have posted the results in the video
Yes please haha
I also apply liquid metal to my laptop but I put both XD.
Before and after
CPU stress test: 88W
95°C to 82°C
INGAME: Heavy both
GPU: 84°C to 72°C (150-165W)
CPU: 97°C to 88-92°C (40-60W)
INGAME: Medium like GTA V
GPU: 83°C to 70°C (130-165W)
CPU: 89°C to 81-85°C (35-45W)
I think when you use liquid metal at GPU the heat from GPU take all the cooling from CPU that's why ingame the result CPU still got high temp especially when game use a lot of GPU and CPU like Horizon New Dawn.
How do you prevent your laptop from forming knives and stabbing weapons to use against you?
Ahahahah i have Arnold's number on hot dial😂
Nice, it's indeed a bit risky.... but looks like a good appliance :D
Laptops are prone to thermal throttling, the score increase you got is immense though!
Soo worth it, chickened out with the GPU, could had it even cooler!
@@Rimzler just make sure to check it once in a while, i’ve heard it can chemically react with the alloys… even though it should be fine for some…
@@Rimzler I literally just did my cpu and GPU on my Zephyrus S17. Trying to see if there are any horror stories right now lol
@@ryanthurman92 so? Any issues? How are the thermals?
@@saadhussain6514 dude actually amazing. I did redo it over and over about 5 times to learn the right amount. But 20c lower on average on cpu. 10c lower on gpu. My zephyrus rates top 90th percentile for like builds on performance. And for safety purposes considering it’s conductivity. I used clear nail polish over the contact points over the sides of the die of the GPU and after applying the Liquid Metal to the dies. I used normal thermal paste on the far outside of the gpu chip not on the metal on the plastic to create a barrier to prevent any leaks. The CPU I didn’t have to do this with as it was designed for Liquid Metal and has its own barrier designed into it with some fabric that prevents seepage. I couldn’t recommend it more. I did it so many times to get an idea of how to do it best and safest and just how much to apply. Lots of people say to apply the Liquid Metal to the die and heatsink. I did that the first time. The last time I did not. And there are no differences in temps between the two ways in my experience. I honestly feel you’re safer doing just the die as you don’t have as much Liquid Metal used and therefore less risk of it leaking out and damaging other components.
Great. It will become useful if I decide to do this on my Strix G17
Be very careful tho!
@@Rimzler I have steady hands 🤪
@@YassirAlSaffar you do something with your hands so they are stable?😳
@@harsh.visuals1067 Rock steady 😎
Bro, glad that I found your video. I recently got Asus ROG Strix 17 SE (12950HX + 3080ti GPU) and CPU is sitting at 95 C most of the time, even under light loads. I tried everything, but I think they somehow failed with LM application to CPU, so I plan on reapplying it and applying it to GPU too with some extra safety measures.
I am curious how your laptop works rn, 10 months in, and how are your thermals :)
I got a Strix 15 with a Ryzen 5800H, I made sure to disable turbo boost cause it is not always needed in some games. Makes it run way cooler and quieter! And not losing any fps in GPU bound games
Get an iets cooler
I removed factory Liquid Metal and applied it on my own, now temps are way better.
Its Asus's horrible quality control.
@@KoshMobile Did you also put LM on the GPU? Did u have to prepare the surface around?
@@Kiekerr Yeah, I changed LM on GPU. I found out that my gpu is already with LM on it when cracked laptop open.
So it was prepared, with foam lm capturers, and everything but chip hidden behind finisher.
Looking on how LM was everywhere around I wouldnt recommend putting LM on laptops unless they are properly prepared by it by either manufacturer or owner.
on my Rog Strix Scar g733cx - i9-12950HX, did apply liquid metal on both, cpu and gpu. I must say that CPU temps went down by 25c, factory coverage of LM on chip was very poor.
I was tired of laptop's temp always get high 80°C+ even when i play some indie games and 95°C while heavy gaming so i ended up with a tower cooler applied directly to cpu and gpu surface and suprisingly it worked so well temp never pass 70°C while heavy gaming, the tower cooler is very hot when i touch it.
Like a desktop tower cooler? Lol that's not a laptop anymore ahahahaha
great video. well done. you did it the same way i did my gu603zw.
I also 3d printed taller back rubber feet, so the fans have better clearance and airflow, that made a good difference
Well worth the risk it looks like :)
how has it held it up? would you reccomend I do the same? my laptop is constantly at 99c :(
So apparently the problem of liquid metal seeping out from between the contact points is not limited to aftermarket applications. I think if you plan to use liquid metal in a laptop, you better not carry that laptop around much and when you do decide to carry it, you should let it cool down completely first. The liquid metal moving out onto the mobo is usually what kills the device and not improper installation. Liquid metal is not worth the risk in a portable application.
Can I choose to immediately replace liquid metal with silicone grease after buying a new computer?
My xps 15 7590 hits 99 - 101° on some cores during fortnite. Lol. This is with a fan pad, max internal fan curve. Even with an undervolt when that was possible. Repasted with thernal grizzly paste not metal. Would love to try liquid metal but can't risk it, cant get a new laptop if i break it so yeah. Its amazing how capable laptops are though. I also play Deus Ex, an incredibly poorly optimized and thus demanding game but on low settings get a solid and playable 50fps. 4k display, reduce to 1080 and yeah she plays. I only wish I'd been in the market now. If I'd got the latest XPS rtx4060 with the vapor chamber, I'd be stoked! As always i rush ahead and screw myself. Gtx 1650 vs an rtx 4060 - 80.. vapor chamber options. Can only dream
The good market is coming in 1/2 years imho, 3/2 nm chips are at the door, improved cooling solution as well, like those super cool solid state blowers, can't wait!
Hello, thank you for your guidance and hints. I want to ask that how long does it take since you buy this laptop? I agree that thermal paste was bad condition. However there is a belief that liquid metal thermal paste (LM) has endless lifespan. Is it true? What are you thinking about that. Since LM's are used on laptops, thermal conditions get well. laptops come with LM, already comes with good processor insulation on motherboard. I believe that some home users should be more brave to reapply this LM :). Thanks. (LM) (LM)
hi
you need to limit processor to 99%
Right click the Start menu and select Control Panel.
Click Hardware and Sound.
Select Power Options.
Find Processor power management and open the menu for Minimum processor state.
Change the setting for on battery to 99%.
Change the setting for plugged in to 99%.
What would that do? I'm curious
@@Rimzler your CPU thermals get lot better,because the CPU don't activate turbo Boost,better thermals ,you don't see big loss in performance
@@Rimzler I do this on my laptops with around 20 degrees reduction
@@carlosrito it will reduce performance in CPU bound games like warzone. I have tried. It is basically handicapping CPU for lower thermals. If you are not gaming, then its fine
@@MrReklez not all games are heavy dependent on cpu
You should repaste the VRAM tho but I've seen worse
But 4 V rams u need another type of paste dont use cpu/gpu paste
Hello Rimzler,
I am very curious on trying liquid metal. how is your LM application on your laptop today?
Also, I would like to know how it looks or any situation to take note since I also wanted to try it on my old laptop and will mostly carry it everywhere I go.
Hoping for your response.
Thanks!
Still using it to edit videos on, still runs cool and I'm satisfied!
Be sure to avoid spilling and maybe dam the surrounding area to prevent shortcircuits, remove battery when doing it
@@Rimzler Good to hear!
Actually, I applied LM last night and the application went well, heck yeah! However, results were not that worth it which is expected. So....
*Lesson of the day: *
*LM is not worth applying on laptops without custom fan profiles. *
Since these laptops' fan levels ramps up only with certain temperatures.
Pros:
- my laptop run cooler on idle and normal use. In fact, and surprisingly, the fans is not spinning or runs slower than usual.
- 3%-5% performance boost (LM is definitely a factor aiding my undervolted profile on achieving higher clock speed while throttling due to the crap fan system.)
- theoretically, longer battery life, since the fans runs slower if not idle.
Cons:
Nothing much actually. just...
effort not worth it, after all the shebangs. The whole process makes you anx.
I don't think that the LM will leak out or move around much since, i found out that less LM is more than enough to help the heatsink absorb heat faster. just apply little/enough amount on contact points and ur good.
Unit: UX333 (Zenbook 13)
i5-8250u + mx150 (10w, bruh what a deal breaker.)
That's all, hope this helps other to save their time and resources.
Enjoy laptop life!!
On my laptop i managed to create a custom profile that spins the fans 100% when temps go above 40c so it stays always super cool
What do I need to buy to do this, there's nothing in the description
You can undervolt your CPU it will help with temperature
Not sure about other Laptops but on my Dell G15 they released a bios update that disabled cpu voltage control due to a security concern from Intel.
I did undervolt and it's running much faster!
@@Rimzler Unfortunately dell won't let me rollback to a bios that allows voltage control.
@@AAP2023 i was planning to buy the G15 and one of the plans was to undervolt the CPU because i knew that the G15 runs hot. In my current laptop i use Throttlestop to undervolt the CPU, not from the bios, if the update you are talking about forbids this process, then this is new to me🥲. I know that you can undevolt some computers from the bios it self, yet others you can’t.
@@kanshashiteiru6552 tbh dell laptops have a really badly designed heatsink and cooling layout, I would go with a different brand. I have actually jusy unlocked undervolting via editing the bios with grubx64 but even with undervolting to -100mv and liquid metal on the CPU it's still reaching around 85 - 90c while on a laptop cooling pad.
What about those VRMs not sure if that's what they are called( those black cubes) around the GPU which had thermal paste? are we supposed to re-paste them too?
No they have their own type of thermal paste so it's best to leave the factory one on be careful to not touch the pads when removing the heatsink
If you mess up the blue stuff is not as bad as if you mess up thermal paste, but of course reapplying is better if deformed
The big ones around the GPU are the Vram modules, the smaller ones are the VRM.
i just put liquid metal on my alienware m15 r6 11800h/3080/32gb(r2)/3tb/240hz/qhd and my temps droped like 30c with an insane difference, i recon its almost as fast as a desktop rtx titan ☺️🥳
I did the same on my alienware, but overtime the liquid metal will dry out. Just so you know.
@@kelvinongsux yeah but that takes a long time. Should likely have a new laptop by time that happens.
@@kelvinongsux Are you sure? How fast will it dry out? I have read that as long as it's nickel plated, and not pure copper, it will not dry out.
It is very risky it is electrically conductive 😂😂
But wow the difference it makes
Hi can you tell what is the max rpm of fans of this laptop under full load
A distanza di 2 anni ci sono danni sui die e sul dissipatore?
Very nice. I will do on my Alienware X17 arrivederci
ok what about cpu temps?
They still are lower/ can produce more power at same temps as before
man youre going to jail for this video lmao 💀
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 of all the videos this is the least possible
Try dry ice!!!
Ahahahhaha liquid methane
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😂😂😂
xPetu?
Dude holy crap this dudes using thermal paste instead of thermal pads for everything but the cpu and gpu guys donot ever do this
The tolerances are too tight on Asus gaming laptops to allow for thermal pads on the VRMs (chips that have the blue thermal paste on them). I know this because I have a g14 that has the same stuff applied to these chips.
K5 Pro is your answer :)
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