The HORRIFIC Execution Of Richard Whiting - Last Abbot Of Glastonbury

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  • @marksayers8867
    @marksayers8867 2 роки тому +30

    It always amazes me that the media portray Henry as a jovial Father Xmas
    type when in reality we are dealing with a cruel sadistic psychopath !

    • @debbierowley8833
      @debbierowley8833 7 місяців тому +1

      Where on earth have you ever seen him portrayed as anything other than the cruel man he was? You’re just making that up!

    • @guybriand5229
      @guybriand5229 День тому

      ... un barbe bleu?

  • @DarkMatterX1
    @DarkMatterX1 3 роки тому +17

    Henry Tudor's victory at Bosworth was the absolute worst thing to happen to post-Norman Conquest England.

  • @Bob-Horse
    @Bob-Horse 3 роки тому +32

    I was born in a small cottage, built in 1790, on what was once Glastonbury Abbey ground. The Abbey and its grounds were a great playground as a child. Thanks for the video.

  • @Michael_Chandler_Keaton
    @Michael_Chandler_Keaton 3 роки тому +68

    This has rapidly become my favorite channel. Every minute detail from this period of English history fascinates me to no end.

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  3 роки тому +5

      Thank you for your kind words! It does mean a lot!

    • @BBANKZ-fw4dc
      @BBANKZ-fw4dc 3 роки тому +3

      Agree!!.....sucks cuz just leaves something burning inside that will never be satisfied, wish I could time travel back n forth in time

    • @winnifredforbes1114
      @winnifredforbes1114 3 роки тому

      Ever consider it might be a case of reincarnation?😱

  • @LRBerry
    @LRBerry 3 роки тому +111

    What an absolutely heartbreaking piece of history. I knew of the Dissolutions of the Monasteries but not about Richard Whiting.

    • @JimMorrisonLoL
      @JimMorrisonLoL 3 роки тому +8

      George Duffy British history, giving you the right to comment

    • @kateguilfoyle5155
      @kateguilfoyle5155 3 роки тому +10

      Even the word “dissolution “ of the monasteries is hiding the brutality of how Henry VIII seized the property of the Church. The number of Catholics, priests and religious and lay people, who were brutally murdered by Henry VIII was in the tens of thousands. Many priests were hanged in the doors of their churches. Some were suspended from their spires. This is never mentioned by the approved histories. It is accompanied by representing the Church as ‘wealthy’ without saying that the monasteries, convents and small churches such as chantries served as hospitals and schools for the poor. Henry seized the property and gave it to his wealthy supporters- that is, the greatest transfer of land since the Norman conquest served as a transfer from the poor to the wealthy. But the transfer supported the power structure whose interests aligned with the Tudors.

    • @Kitiwake
      @Kitiwake 3 роки тому +1

      @@kateguilfoyle5155 yes . It's a lie, like the protestant "reformation", which reformed nothing.

  • @paradox7358
    @paradox7358 3 роки тому +458

    If I ever travel back in time, I'm skipping the Tudor period.

    • @Michael_Chandler_Keaton
      @Michael_Chandler_Keaton 3 роки тому +30

      I'd like to be there. In a corner, viewing at a "safe" distance. If any distance was safe from the paranoia of Henry 8.

    • @gsosenko
      @gsosenko 3 роки тому +36

      Skip 2020 as well

    • @no-knickers-emma1112
      @no-knickers-emma1112 3 роки тому

      You obviously know nothing about the Tudor period

    • @gsosenko
      @gsosenko 3 роки тому +24

      @@no-knickers-emma1112 Its a joke lighten up

    • @siobhanfraser8190
      @siobhanfraser8190 3 роки тому +1

      Best time of history

  • @AL_YZ
    @AL_YZ 3 роки тому +23

    The Monasteries were centuries- old repositories of art, treasures, ancient buildings/architecture, learning and books. So much of British history was destroyed by the Dissolution. That's why Richard the Third's skeleton was discovered under a parking lot and that even now, no one really knows where Alfred the Great's remains are. It was like China's Cultural Revolution.

    • @jamessmythe1891
      @jamessmythe1891 3 роки тому +3

      Earlier, in the late 8th century, Vikings from Sweden and Norway used to come over to England on a day trip to rob and steal, the monasteries were their favourite targets.

    • @eldermillennial8330
      @eldermillennial8330 2 роки тому +2

      @@jamessmythe1891
      Which was why more fortified monasteries became necessary, which in turn required bigger church budgets.

  • @georgettebeacham4682
    @georgettebeacham4682 3 роки тому +78

    King Henry VIII was insane

    • @enchantedapril5233
      @enchantedapril5233 3 роки тому +8

      Some historians would agree with you. He suffered from syphilis in later life and probably adversely affected his behavior.

    • @duncannoelsmith3197
      @duncannoelsmith3197 3 роки тому +3

      And Syphilitic too boot.

    • @saymyname218
      @saymyname218 3 роки тому +2

      All power like that leads to insanity and leads to debauchery ...just look at the rise of the Medici family in the 12th C and their connection with religion ( pope`s ).

    • @judyparsons1333
      @judyparsons1333 3 роки тому +3

      It's only power that matters

    • @davids9192
      @davids9192 3 роки тому +5

      Trump is the modern day equivalent.

  • @mecurian485
    @mecurian485 3 роки тому +43

    No. Henry only broke from Rome AFTER he married Anne Boleyn. Furthermore he did NOT divorce Catherine, but rather had the marriage annulled by the new archbishop of Canterbury that he had handpicked for the very reason of overriding the Pope and getting his annulment. This was why Mary, Catherine's daughter by Henry, was removed from the line of succession, only to be restored shortly before Henry's death. Henry never had a single divorce, he had two annulments.

    • @davidfelix2594
      @davidfelix2594 3 роки тому +5

      Yep, i agree, too many inaccuracies in this video and not very well researched for me to subscribe to this channel.

    • @brucealmighty9877
      @brucealmighty9877 3 роки тому +1

      @@davidfelix2594 ssshhhh

    • @debbierowley8833
      @debbierowley8833 7 місяців тому

      He broke from Rome BEFORE he married Anne Boleyn obviously ....he wasn’t allowed to remarry under the Catholic Church rules.

    • @mecurian485
      @mecurian485 7 місяців тому

      @@debbierowley8833 No. He married Anne in January 1533, he had his marriage to Catherine annulled by his pet Archbishop Thomas Cramer in May 1533, and only broke from the Church is 1534 with the act of supremacy, breaking from Rome and making Henry head of the church.

  • @chrissibersky4617
    @chrissibersky4617 3 роки тому +139

    Ok. Now we've watched 20 videos of SHOCKNG and HORRIFIC executions.
    Now we want to see some GENTLE and BEAUTIFUL executions.

    • @johnalanelson
      @johnalanelson 3 роки тому +3

      By sticking a needle in the arm?

    • @PencilProper
      @PencilProper 3 роки тому +1

      @Jamis Billson Can confirm altitude sickness is not fun.

    • @DavidSmith-kp2cs
      @DavidSmith-kp2cs 3 роки тому

      Hehehe

    • @galenavlasova7580
      @galenavlasova7580 3 роки тому

      😃😄😅😂😻

    • @ZSAZSS09
      @ZSAZSS09 3 роки тому +1

      There's no such thing as a gentle and beatuiful execution, so you'll be waiting in vain.

  • @pamelawing626
    @pamelawing626 3 роки тому +131

    Thomas Cromwell received "his" not all that many years later.

    • @JamesAllmond
      @JamesAllmond 3 роки тому +13

      both Catholic and Protestant Tudors were insanely brutal and, well, un-Christian.

    • @stevendouglas6593
      @stevendouglas6593 3 роки тому +20

      JamesAllmond Not unchristian, more like un-Christlike. Christianity in no way follows the teachings of Christ.

    • @heritage195
      @heritage195 3 роки тому +5

      And I am sure continues to receive 'his'!

    • @zakalon123
      @zakalon123 3 роки тому +4

      @@heritage195 yes IN HELL, FOR ALL ETERNITY.

    • @williamhogan4031
      @williamhogan4031 3 роки тому +1

      @@JamesAllmond plenty of christians ,just no christianity...

  • @toybarons
    @toybarons 3 роки тому +67

    I started watching these videos out of curiosity. I really didn't know too much about the Tudor period. I find these videos vey interesting as well as educational. Look forward to more.

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  3 роки тому +10

      Thanks for your comment, i'm glad you're learning from the content. Long may it continue!

    • @pinkpoodlepaloma
      @pinkpoodlepaloma 3 роки тому +3

      Look up David Starsky's youtube series about the Tudors

  • @crazyduck1254
    @crazyduck1254 3 роки тому +119

    the real truth is that this is the stuff of modern day serial killers, the absolute horror inflicted on another living human being at the hands of psychopaths. Imagine their terror at these drawn out sadistic events. I can barely stand the cruelty. Human are only ever one step away from barbarism in the veneer of civilised life. We are all inherently evil just as much as we are good.

    • @gregorys6074
      @gregorys6074 3 роки тому +4

      Or communist dictators

    • @djimma5080
      @djimma5080 3 роки тому +4

      This is what gives us the edge we wouldn't dominante the planet otherwise and its safe to assume any intelligent life in the universe will have an incredible capabilities of being able to kill and be cruel yet understand the importance of life and love and peace

    • @David-lu4gq
      @David-lu4gq 3 роки тому +3

      @@yourmomssaidicouldhavemyun2590 Why do you keep posting this comment? It's silly. And how do you know that the story is"obviously" exaggerated?

    • @brianpan6453
      @brianpan6453 3 роки тому +5

      @@yourmomssaidicouldhavemyun2590 , "only non-whites are capable of such atrocities"? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @David-lu4gq
      @David-lu4gq 3 роки тому +2

      @@brianpan6453 He's just a troll. Don't mind him.

  • @benhaney9629
    @benhaney9629 3 роки тому +41

    “They hung and beheaded him? Why’d they let him off so easy?”
    I’ve been watching too many of these...

    • @V_______
      @V_______ 3 роки тому +6

      I feeeeeeeeel this comment. I know exactly what you mean.

    • @eddiemcgrath8536
      @eddiemcgrath8536 3 роки тому +4

      first offence..

    • @TheCatBilbo
      @TheCatBilbo 3 роки тому +3

      What you don't realise is that they also stole his biscuits. I know, the horror...

    • @ZSAZSS09
      @ZSAZSS09 3 роки тому +1

      @@TheCatBilbo stole his biscuit? That was really cruel! I bet they also spilt his tea? That is considered as torture in the third degree.

    • @Kitiwake
      @Kitiwake 3 роки тому

      That was not the procedure. After partial hanging he was cut down, had his genitals cut off, had his intestines pulled out and burned in front of his eyes and then was beheaded and quartered with his head and body parts being distributed as aforesaid.

  • @Zeldarw104
    @Zeldarw104 3 роки тому +62

    So brutal and so awful it's unconscionable, an Abbot, an aged man, of the cloth. Smh.😢😑 I don't know why this execution is so disturbing to me, when I watch your channel all the time.😞

    • @costakeith9048
      @costakeith9048 3 роки тому +6

      @@dennistedder3384 Vengeance is the Lord's, absolutely, but it's good to hear these stories because they help us realize why it's such a wonderful thing that we serve a vengeful God. I know, as a matter of fact, that millions, indeed hundreds of millions, of people will burn in hell for all of eternity for following the false Church established by this wicked king, for they have committed the crimes of schism and of heresy. Some people think that this is overly harsh or unfair, but when you hear these stories you realize that, no, it is perfectly justified. They have failed to try the spirits, as St. John the Theologian commanded us to do, and as such will justly and rightly be forced to endure unspeakable tortures for all of eternity. In our age of weakness we might protest about how unfair this is, about how some just acted to save themselves or their families, about how the interests of men should be taken into account, but this is the crime of humanism, our Lord taught us that 'He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
      ' Those who follow this heretic king have found their earthly life, but have lost eternal life, and those like this blessed abbot who have endured unto the end may have lost their earthly life, but in doing so they have found eternal life. All shall be set right in the end and ignorance shall be no defense. Glory be to God!

    • @ricardocima
      @ricardocima 3 роки тому +1

      @@costakeith9048 LOL

    • @eldermillennial8330
      @eldermillennial8330 3 роки тому +1

      @@costakeith9048
      When shepherds were REAL men who would fight for their flock to the point of being overwhelmed by the wolves rather than give the beasts an inch!
      Now, however, the Roman bishops are all toothless neuters, AT BEST, at worst, are werewolves in shepherd’s clothing.
      The diseases of lowchurchism and of broadchurchism have rotted all but the Orthodox.

    • @eldermillennial8330
      @eldermillennial8330 3 роки тому

      @@yourmomssaidicouldhavemyun2590 what naive nonsense. You never heard of how the Barbadian Irish got to Barbados, obviously. Someone needs to start a “1636 Project” on their behalf.
      That attitude didn’t exactly go away with secularism, either. Charles Darwin considered the Irish to be BELOW Africans on his pseudoscientific hierarchy of racial superiority/inferiority.

    • @alexstewart9747
      @alexstewart9747 3 роки тому +1

      The Catholic Church be like - Hold my mead. We burned innocent ‘witches’ to death at the stake regularly in Gods name.
      Richard Whiting got it easy in comparison.

  • @NSResponder
    @NSResponder 3 роки тому +197

    Henry, like all kings, was a tyrant. He stands out as a particularly vicious one, though.

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  3 роки тому +29

      I agree, savage King who would stop at nothing.

    • @tjchesney4997
      @tjchesney4997 3 роки тому +5

      Alice Tankerville knew that all too well...

    • @Trebor74
      @Trebor74 3 роки тому +25

      Without that tyrant there wouldn't be a Protestant church,no break with Rome,no English language Bible, no divorces or ability to use contraception and quite a lot of the freedoms we have now wouldn't exist. Sometimes tyrants are useful.

    • @Trebor74
      @Trebor74 3 роки тому +20

      @George Duffy then you have absolutely no idea how important the break with Rome and the rise of Protestantism was. You're also ignoring the crusades, started by papal bull,the inquisition etc etc. History was bloody. But one of the main reasons we had the age of enlightenment,etc, was the break with Rome. Only a strong and powerful "tyrant" would have had the power to do so.

    • @doomie77
      @doomie77 3 роки тому +13

      @@Trebor74 careful, the mob May accuse you of treason with comments like that although accurate none the less.

  • @glennpowell3444
    @glennpowell3444 3 роки тому +147

    Those buildings were/are still incredible constructions considering the tools available at that time. Even now they would command huge skill and foresite.

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  3 роки тому +22

      I agree - the ruins are unbelievable. There's so many hidden abbeys or priories from this period around England which were dissolved and simply left.

    • @glennpowell3444
      @glennpowell3444 3 роки тому +12

      @@TheUntoldPast Yes ,We have Lilleshall Abbey only a stones throw from here.It still bears grafitee from the the civil war where the remains were used by the parliamentarians . Shropshire has a rich history of those lads using the county as a royalist stronghold.The abbey itself though built in the 14th century albeit remains now is fantastic.Thanks for your content.

    • @juanvelez8564
      @juanvelez8564 3 роки тому +2

      "foresight."

    • @twinturbo8304
      @twinturbo8304 3 роки тому +4

      Sad how so many middle age churches and castles ruined by bombers all over Europe

  • @Gubalicious
    @Gubalicious 3 роки тому +51

    "Henry VIII... he was a shit"
    Alan Partridge

    • @miggyblack50
      @miggyblack50 3 роки тому +5

      A big SHIT

    • @fifthof1795
      @fifthof1795 3 роки тому +4

      @@miggyblack50 Syphilis ridden dirty great shit !

    • @ElizabethF2222
      @ElizabethF2222 3 роки тому +4

      Literally a stinking pile of shit! They said the smell from his festering leg wounds would be the first thing to hit you. Can't even imagine!!

    • @fifthof1795
      @fifthof1795 3 роки тому +2

      @@ElizabethF2222 Can you imagine that rancid tyrant's breath...never mind his minging meat and two veg....uuuurrgh!

    • @82luft49
      @82luft49 3 роки тому

      Go back in time and tell him that

  • @markpurcell1752
    @markpurcell1752 3 роки тому +31

    "Bloody Mary" ( Henry's Daughter - Mary I ) has been portrayed as the evil member of the Family, but her Father, Brother, Sister were just as cruel. ... Mary was a staunch Catholic, and thus was doomed by the Protestant Historians that followed. ...

    • @garyp1432
      @garyp1432 3 роки тому +1

      She was pretty evil. Burning people slowly was the Catholic preference

    • @Kitiwake
      @Kitiwake 3 роки тому +1

      @@garyp1432 her total 298.
      Henry's total 57,000.
      Incidentally, they usually strapped a jar of gunpowder to the chest of the victim to be burned so that the flames exploded it and the victim died quickly.
      Nice bit of anti Catholic trolling by the way.

  • @briansmith9439
    @briansmith9439 3 роки тому +10

    Future topic: Father John Southworth, at over 70 years old, suffered the penalty of being hanged, drawn & quartered under Cromwell on 28 June 1654 on a sentence handed down in 1630. His body parts were gathered and stitched together and shipped to France where they were lost until the early 20th century. His body was returned and can be viewed today in the Chapel of Saint George and the English Martyrs at Westminster Cathedral. He was canonized in Rome by Pope Paul VI on 25 October 1970. Saint John's Feast Day is June 27th.

    • @johnnyb8825
      @johnnyb8825 2 роки тому

      I can only hope that at age 70+ (which was older in those days than it is now) he didn't remain conscious during the process for as long as he would have if he'd been younger and stronger. In some circumstances being frail is a mercy!

    • @colinlavelle7806
      @colinlavelle7806 Рік тому

      Yes I have seen his resting place +

    • @ileanaacacostaacosta1813
      @ileanaacacostaacosta1813 2 місяці тому

      I didn't know about this holy English man who died for his faith Saint John martyr for his faith pray for us

  • @francisolivier3671
    @francisolivier3671 3 роки тому +41

    what a cruel king and time so much terrible things happen . richard may god bless you amen . rest in peace , henry the eight was a tiran man with no heart

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  3 роки тому +6

      I agree! Thanks for your comment!

    • @eldermillennial8330
      @eldermillennial8330 3 роки тому

      Took after his great uncle, Richard the 3rd.

    • @yourmomssaidicouldhavemyun2590
      @yourmomssaidicouldhavemyun2590 3 роки тому

      No you're wrong, only non-whites are capable of such atrocities, this story was obviously exaggerated for effect the same way that Hollywood does, this probably didn't even happen and were the product of the delusional illustrators of the day, if anything this is a delve into a the depraved mind of artists and what they want us to believe.
      Besides if this all did happen, it was clearly doctored to suit the oppositions narrative and is purely political, like I said, if it did happen, let's just move on OK?
      Nothing ever comes from dwelling on the past, the time is now for healing and arguing about this will only divide us further.

  • @brettswierczewski223
    @brettswierczewski223 3 роки тому +12

    Awesome video as always. One of my favorite channels now. Such a sad ending for the Abbot particularly in light the he was at such an advanced age for the Tudor period.

  • @cliffordputnam4197
    @cliffordputnam4197 3 роки тому +14

    I love that the narrator loves history. I love the perfect diction ❤

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  3 роки тому +3

      Thanks! You are too kind! :)

    • @peterdavino4408
      @peterdavino4408 3 роки тому +2

      It's true though. Wonderful narration. Great work!

  • @duncangreen2483
    @duncangreen2483 3 роки тому +45

    Henry the VIII was the worst of a long line of Kings.

    • @kickedinthecalfbyacow7549
      @kickedinthecalfbyacow7549 3 роки тому +1

      Henry VII and Henry VIII. That doesn’t seam that long. Also I’m not sure Henry VIII is the worst of the two.

  • @asmith2406
    @asmith2406 3 роки тому +14

    Such terrible cultural destruction. He was a monster.

    • @rohansrider
      @rohansrider 3 роки тому +2

      If there was truly a God - he should have rid the world of such a bastard . How ironic that the whole debacle was caused by belief in bloody God !! Mix religion with politics and you have a toxic mix of man -made crazy nonsense. that has caused the murder of hundreds of thousands of people throughout centuries. In 2021, no way should our head of state be head of a church that fewer than 10% of the population follow. Time we disestablished it all. Far too much power! It is a quasi theocracy.

  • @stevefox8605
    @stevefox8605 3 роки тому +34

    Superb research and story telling, thank you 👍🏻👍🏻

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  3 роки тому +5

      Thanks for your support Steve! I wish I could have visited the Abbey myself to bring you some footage, but eugh lockdown! Not to worry, i'll visit soon!

    • @alukuhito
      @alukuhito 3 роки тому

      You call that "superb" research? OK... How sad. This is basically something you could find out on Wikipedia.

    • @stevefox8605
      @stevefox8605 3 роки тому

      @@alukuhito yes because Wikipedia provides all the information, writes the script, finds the pictures, edits and presents it and comes up with fresh topics daily....

    • @alukuhito
      @alukuhito 3 роки тому

      @@stevefox8605 Just say that you like the video and are impressed. It's not "superb research". You've obviously never gone to school past high school.

    • @stevefox8605
      @stevefox8605 3 роки тому

      @@alukuhito Well someone had to research it, didn't they....
      Now p*ss off and troll someone else.

  • @greenman3120
    @greenman3120 3 роки тому +27

    Glastonbury abbey is still a wonderful and fascinating place to visit

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  3 роки тому +2

      It's on my list of places to go as soon as possible!

    • @Tuffydipstick
      @Tuffydipstick 3 роки тому

      I've been there loads of times. It's a few miles from where I live.

    • @NoLefTurnUnStoned.
      @NoLefTurnUnStoned. 3 роки тому

      @@Tuffydipstick
      I love Somerset...can I move in with you?

  • @saltMagic
    @saltMagic 3 роки тому +25

    henry the 8th was an absolute monster.

  • @KempSimon
    @KempSimon 3 роки тому +10

    During the Dissolution (or Suppression) of the Monasteries, between 1636-40, just three out of some eight hundred Abbots (and no Abbesses) were executed for being less than completely enthusiastic about handing over their Abbeys to the agents of King Henry VIII. The three who were made examples of being Hugh Cook, Abbot of Reading; Thomas Marshall, Abbot of Colchester and Richard Whiting, Abbot of Glastonbury.

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  3 роки тому +3

      Thanks for your comment Simon. I think the Dissolution shows how Cromwell and the King wished to fill the royal coffers and secure as much wealth as they could. I think they saw these houses, abbeys and so on as easy targets.

    • @Mr5thWave
      @Mr5thWave 3 роки тому

      Well Simon, that makes me feel all better about it.

  • @dmixdup
    @dmixdup 3 роки тому +27

    Have always wondered how people follow the Church of England since it was basically founded on two principles - the divorce of Henry and plunder and theft of monasteries.

    • @kennyzraht5804
      @kennyzraht5804 3 роки тому +5

      I always wondered the same thing!!

    • @Peter_Pepper_Love
      @Peter_Pepper_Love 3 роки тому +1

      Limey's🤷‍♂️

    • @garyp1432
      @garyp1432 3 роки тому +2

      No it wasn’t the reformation started before that. Calvin, Luther and many others lead the Protestant movement. Henry just speeded it up.. Had to happen the Catholic Church were the old world order, do as we say or burn, hang or be tortured to death

    • @Mr5thWave
      @Mr5thWave 3 роки тому

      @@garyp1432 Pretty well sums up the Protestants as well.

    • @Kitiwake
      @Kitiwake 3 роки тому

      @@garyp1432 the church didn't have those remedies... but rather the ordering of penance and the ultimate, excommunication.

  • @woomanchew
    @woomanchew 3 роки тому +20

    It’s good to know that Thomas Cromwell met his own fate only eight months later. “It took three blows of the axe by the ragged and butcherly executioner to sever his head”.

    • @yourmomssaidicouldhavemyun2590
      @yourmomssaidicouldhavemyun2590 3 роки тому

      No you're wrong, only non-whites are capable of such atrocities, this story was obviously exaggerated for effect the same way that Hollywood does, this probably didn't even happen and were the product of the delusional illustrators of the day, if anything this is a delve into a the depraved mind of artists and what they want us to believe.
      Besides if this all did happen, it was clearly doctored to suit the oppositions narrative and is purely political, like I said, if it did happen, let's just move on OK?
      Nothing ever comes from dwelling on the past, the time is now for healing and arguing about this will only divide us further.

    • @jayytee8062
      @jayytee8062 3 роки тому +1

      Whats wrong with you people

    • @woomanchew
      @woomanchew 3 роки тому +3

      @@yourmomssaidicouldhavemyun2590
      It’s well documented that this DID happen. It sounds insane but it’s true. Matthew Hopkins ( the witch finder general) was at it 100 years years later and he was just as evil.

    • @starrsmith3810
      @starrsmith3810 2 роки тому +1

      @@yourmomssaidicouldhavemyun2590
      Excuse me……..wanna try explaining what you mean by non-white people?

    • @ileanaacacostaacosta1813
      @ileanaacacostaacosta1813 2 місяці тому

      @@yourmomssaidicouldhavemyun2590 You are neither English nor a Westerner or a real Christian you will never understand our culture our faith or our country no woke rhetoric here

  • @robgunnAK47
    @robgunnAK47 3 роки тому +28

    Having watched most of your video's relating to this period of history you tend to wonder if anyone was pulling Henrys strings to make him the monster he was. Quite clearly the answer is no as no one near to him in any advisory capacity lived long enough. The absolute horror of it all knew no bounds or limits and went on even after Henrys death.

    • @darrenmcwhiney3220
      @darrenmcwhiney3220 3 роки тому

      Probably was, at least influencing his action anyhow. Similar to the way they influenced the king in the movie " The messenger!" 😮

    • @yourmomssaidicouldhavemyun2590
      @yourmomssaidicouldhavemyun2590 3 роки тому

      No you're wrong, only non-whites are capable of such atrocities, this story was obviously exaggerated for effect the same way that Hollywood does, this probably didn't even happen and were the product of the delusional illustrators of the day, if anything this is a delve into a the depraved mind of artists and what they want us to believe.
      Besides if this all did happen, it was clearly doctored to suit the oppositions narrative and is purely political, like I said, if it did happen, let's just move on OK?
      Nothing ever comes from dwelling on the past, the time is now for healing and arguing about this will only divide us further.

    • @dc-4ever201
      @dc-4ever201 3 роки тому +2

      They said he changed after being lanced and un-horsed at a joust, he was unconcious for quite some time with clearly a serious brain injury. Such injuries are known to sometimes change a persons personality. He also suffered from many other illnesses, without painkillers like we have today he would have been snappy and short tempered due to the intense pain. These are probably the reasons for quite alot of his bad decisions, that and being King knowing he could do what he wanted.

    • @andrecostermans7109
      @andrecostermans7109 3 роки тому

      @@dc-4ever201 some historians also mentioned venereal diseases as gonorroe and or syphilis, and most 'national historians' dare not to speak about this issue, however and this is partically true for syphilis it will change your character and attitudes in about 15-20 years after being infected ( getting paranoid, short tempered aso )

  • @luciusmalou4906
    @luciusmalou4906 3 роки тому +50

    The more I know about Henry VIII the more repulsive and regretful he becomes.

    • @dmixdup
      @dmixdup 3 роки тому +6

      One doesn’t need to know much in order to find him repulsive.

    • @yourmomssaidicouldhavemyun2590
      @yourmomssaidicouldhavemyun2590 3 роки тому +1

      No you're wrong, only non-whites are capable of such atrocities, this story was obviously exaggerated for effect the same way that Hollywood does, this probably didn't even happen and were the product of the delusional illustrators of the day, if anything this is a delve into a the depraved mind of artists and what they want us to believe.
      Besides if this all did happen, it was clearly doctored to suit the oppositions narrative and is purely political, like I said, if it did happen, let's just move on OK?
      Nothing ever comes from dwelling on the past, the time is now for healing and arguing about this will only divide us further.

    • @stuartwebster4267
      @stuartwebster4267 3 роки тому +1

      You no nothing about the tudor period and in particular HENRY VIII your comment is made out of pure ignorance without any substance regarding king henry Vlll or this country breakaway from the corrupt catholic faith .

    • @dmixdup
      @dmixdup 3 роки тому +5

      @@stuartwebster4267 I do know how to spell "know." I also know that members of a church founded by a mass murderer shouldn't really throw stones at other faiths.
      www.history.co.uk/article/the-killer-king-how-many-people-did-henry-viii-execute

    • @robertshepherd7628
      @robertshepherd7628 3 роки тому +1

      Think of him as Sid James in a drag costume.

  • @Saturns48
    @Saturns48 3 роки тому +13

    I always wonder what those builds used to look like, destroying history leaves you with nothing to learn from.

    • @TheJumpingJake
      @TheJumpingJake 3 роки тому +1

      Its quite upsetting isn't it

    • @garyp1432
      @garyp1432 3 роки тому

      We’ll go and have a look plenty survived

  • @markallen1057
    @markallen1057 3 роки тому +9

    Thankyou for all of the time and effort you put into these videos, I never miss a video, fantastic 👌🏻

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  3 роки тому +1

      You're too kind! Thank you for spending time to watch these Mark, your support means a lot!

  • @usmale4915
    @usmale4915 3 роки тому +4

    How horrific. . .thank you for sharing!

  • @terencepetermccoombe7413
    @terencepetermccoombe7413 3 роки тому +9

    The treasurer of the church, John Thorne and the sacristan, Roger James, were executed with Whiting. May the three of them RIP.

  • @flyingisaac2186
    @flyingisaac2186 3 роки тому +18

    Bl. Richard Whiting, pray for us.

    •  3 роки тому +1

      Richard Whiting died Isaac.

    • @ileanaacacostaacosta1813
      @ileanaacacostaacosta1813 2 місяці тому

      Yes please holy man and martyr for the faith pray England and for us anen

  • @boccia2409
    @boccia2409 3 роки тому +6

    Aha! The music has returned! Lol great video brother

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  3 роки тому

      Thanks mate for your comment. Apologies I've had to rely on images of Glastonbury Abbey rather than visiting myself, i'd love to visit however lockdown... Soon though i'll go!

    • @Apegabe
      @Apegabe 3 роки тому

      I agree love the music for his videos! Brings all of the video together.

  • @JohnDoe-ee6qs
    @JohnDoe-ee6qs 3 роки тому +23

    What monsters greed brings into the world, reminds me of another king a French one and his greed for the wealth of the knights Templar

    • @ricardocima
      @ricardocima 3 роки тому +2

      That was brutal.

    • @eldermillennial8330
      @eldermillennial8330 3 роки тому +3

      @Joeseph Smith
      What nonsense. While there’s plenty to be skeptical about regarding the concept of a Christian “warrior monk”, about how that’s an oxymoron regarding sacred vows, MOST of what’s leveled against them is a pack of lies.

    • @JohnDoe-ee6qs
      @JohnDoe-ee6qs 3 роки тому +4

      @Joeseph Smith no mate, the crusade's came later, when they started they were just two knights with only one horse between them, they were that poor, the wealth came later as a result of gifts, and a well run organization made them even wealthier, and that brought the envy of a King and greedy Pope that and the fact that poor old Philip owed them a lot of money which he didn't really want to pay back

    • @JohnDoe-ee6qs
      @JohnDoe-ee6qs 3 роки тому +1

      @Joeseph Smith I would rather do business with them than our current banking system and their overlords with their central banks,

    • @yourmomssaidicouldhavemyun2590
      @yourmomssaidicouldhavemyun2590 3 роки тому

      No you're wrong, only non-whites are capable of such atrocities, this story was obviously exaggerated for effect the same way that Hollywood does, this probably didn't even happen and were the product of the delusional illustrators of the day, if anything this is a delve into a the depraved mind of artists and what they want us to believe.
      Besides if this all did happen, it was clearly doctored to suit the oppositions narrative and is purely political, like I said, if it did happen, let's just move on OK?
      Nothing ever comes from dwelling on the past, the time is now for healing and arguing about this will only divide us further.

  • @LouisHansell
    @LouisHansell 3 роки тому +32

    After Cromwell was executed. his head was on a stick for display at Parliament for 25 years. So there was some retribution.

  • @hoponpop3330
    @hoponpop3330 3 роки тому +3

    The ironic part is these monasteries were often built on the worst land available sometimes swamps .
    Through the hard work ( labor was honored among monks) and ingenuity the monasteries were completely transformed into the best land around.
    These monasteries were not only self supporting but provided for the needs of local communities and safe havens for travelers.
    They became too attractive for the non working nobility to pass up.
    Break with Rome that’s laughable more like an excuse to pillage the fruits of others by the powerful.
    Interestingly the California missions were extremely successful enterprises run primarily by the natives.
    The mission near San Diego was the largest cattle ranch in North America.
    When the missionaries who fought for their protection were expelled by the Revolutionary Mexican government they were seized by that government
    and the natives population was dispersed.
    Their are workers and there are thieves .

  • @suzy64
    @suzy64 3 роки тому +10

    I do find your videos really compelling..family geneology shows we are from the boelyn's...so kinda hooked on all things tudor..although wouldnt want to live in that time...thank you and well done.👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks for your kind words Susan, it means a lot!

  • @lynnetadayon6656
    @lynnetadayon6656 3 роки тому +8

    Fascinating videos. Thank you!!

  • @lilbullet158
    @lilbullet158 3 роки тому +12

    *_"A 'Brutal Religious Change'...."_*

  • @kr9297
    @kr9297 3 роки тому +2

    Great channel. No stupid dramatic music or crap reconstructions just excellent narration and very informative

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  3 роки тому

      Thank you! Your kind words mean a lot!

  • @quentinquentin6752
    @quentinquentin6752 3 роки тому +24

    And yet, and yet, Henry is held up in our history books as some great powerful king who made Britain independent of Rome, freeing us from the clutches of Roman Catholicism. In fact Henry was a neurotic megalomaniac who thought only of himself. He literally killed everyone and everything that got in his immediate way. Immediate because he had all the strategic sense of a cornered rat and I fully realise the slander I just placed upon rats.
    Cromwell was an odious horrid man whose whole purpose seemed to be implementing this tyrants every wish.
    I love history and find the lives of those who came before us incredibly fascinating. Knowing more about this period convinced me that Tudor England was probably the most barbaric place in Europe at this time and possibly even the whole world. Violence and cruelty in every corner of the land. None escaped. God forgive that tyrant Henry because I cannot.

    • @lindsayheyes925
      @lindsayheyes925 3 роки тому +1

      Hmmm... Spanish Inquisition??? And all that happened in The Low Countries?Maybe other monarchs did less in his lifetime - but what about the Dominican Order?

    • @quentinquentin6752
      @quentinquentin6752 3 роки тому +1

      @@lindsayheyes925 really? You went there? Do you use that whenever anything come up? Oh and I’m sure you use the crusades too, am i right? How many people were killed during the inquisition and over what period? Go investigate it vs just asking what you think are “gotcha questions”. Oh and while I’m at it, you sound like a serious anti-Catholic bigot. I notice you did not refute anything i wrote other than your lame gotcha question....sad person!

    • @paladinhansen137
      @paladinhansen137 3 роки тому +1

      @@quentinquentin6752 The reality is you would've been burned at the stake for the basic things you take for granted right now. Things as simple as reciting the Lords Prayer in English or having a Greek New Testament was punishable by death. So you can placate your opinions on the internet in English and that is diddo. You can thank Tyrants like King Henry for making that possibility happen for something as simple as getting an English translation of the Bible or you even commenting on the Bible etc. etc. in English. Tyrants like Henry look like Saints compared to the papist pukes in the Vatican. Its honestly comparing a solid poop to diarrhea. Both are shit but if I was forced to choose id prefer the normal poop to diarrhea.

    • @quentinquentin6752
      @quentinquentin6752 3 роки тому

      @@paladinhansen137 you are crass beyond words. No engagement with animals. Bye

  • @beccaboo3040
    @beccaboo3040 3 роки тому +5

    Brilliant very interesting. Nice 1 again great chap 👊🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks again for your kind words Simon!

  • @crimesacrosstheglobe1885
    @crimesacrosstheglobe1885 3 роки тому +7

    Another Great upload.. Bro, heres some stuff for you. High on the far side of the valley stands grade 2 listed Jesmond Dene House, originally built in 1822 from neo-Tudor designs by John Dobson; it was then known as Black Dene House and later renamed Jesmond Dene House. In 1871 it was taken over by Sir Andrew Noble and considerably enlarged by Norman Shaw and F W Rich. Built for Lord and lady Armstrong. Newcastle - Jesmond.

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  3 роки тому

      Thanks for the comment mate! Sounds amazing! I wish at the moment I could go and visit the area to have filmed but with the restrictions at the moment it's not ideal. Once this has all blown over Glastonbury and Somerset will be first on my list of places to see. I'll definitely have to look at the House! Thanks again mate.

  • @si4632
    @si4632 3 роки тому +4

    I like the way the video starts with facts, a land grab and financial grab

  • @georgedonnellan36
    @georgedonnellan36 3 роки тому +12

    The more I know about people, the more I love my dog. ( Mark Twain )

  • @re-newal
    @re-newal 3 роки тому +3

    Love this channel!

  • @mikesey1
    @mikesey1 3 роки тому +2

    Whiting's actual 'trial' was held in the Great Hall of the Bishop's Palace of Wells. It was from Wells, 5 miles from Glastonbury that Whiting was dragged on a hurdle.

    • @Kitiwake
      @Kitiwake 3 роки тому

      Dragged naked on a hurdle.

  • @malcolmabram2957
    @malcolmabram2957 3 роки тому +14

    The dissolution of the monasteries was a monstrous injustice in English history which never seems to have grasped the public sentiment of today.

    • @BobK5
      @BobK5 3 роки тому

      Understandable in the circumstances though

  • @rtrruma2387
    @rtrruma2387 2 роки тому

    Thank you for your video's. I am so impressed with how you make such a short video's of such big topics, so impressed. Excellent work

  • @dirkbruere
    @dirkbruere 3 роки тому +25

    The Abbey should be restored.

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  3 роки тому +4

      I agree, there's not much standing now. Thanks for your comment.

    • @garyp1432
      @garyp1432 3 роки тому

      What all of them?

    • @dirkbruere
      @dirkbruere 3 роки тому +1

      @@garyp1432 Glastonbury at least

    • @garyp1432
      @garyp1432 3 роки тому

      @@dirkbruere why Glastonbury?

    • @dirkbruere
      @dirkbruere 3 роки тому +1

      @@garyp1432 It's the oldest religious site in Britain

  • @imalex82
    @imalex82 3 роки тому +2

    I have no idea why you don’t have more subscribers. These videos are essential watching for anyone interested in English church history in the Tudor period. While I have read scholarly works on the period, these offer a human perspective and serve as a reminder that the reformation claimed a lot of pious lives on both sides.

  • @msw0011
    @msw0011 3 роки тому +11

    Man’s inhumanity to Man continues even today. My God, my Fortress, my Redeemer, Lord and Savior of all that is Good and Holy, lift the veil from our eyes so that we may see the error of our ways, for we are All children of God.

  • @denisecastellanos4866
    @denisecastellanos4866 2 роки тому +2

    Over here wondering why Henry VIII is not the one who is known as "Bloody Henry."

  • @supernova046
    @supernova046 3 роки тому +6

    cant stop watching these videos,am on the hook.

  • @isaachunt5799
    @isaachunt5799 3 роки тому +2

    great channel this.
    keep up the good work
    what accent you have dude..cant quite fathom it out

  • @direktorpresident
    @direktorpresident 3 роки тому +3

    I bet when he was being educated at Glastonbury, he never imagined that we would become Head

  • @TheRumbles13
    @TheRumbles13 3 роки тому +1

    Great channel. Thanks for all your hard work.

  • @elizabethspedding1975
    @elizabethspedding1975 3 роки тому +5

    Thanks for another great lesson.

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  3 роки тому

      No problem, thanks for your comment Elizabeth.

  • @alanjackson1691
    @alanjackson1691 3 роки тому +20

    So he was hung, drawn and quartered.
    The head wasn't the first part of a victim of this method of execution to be removed.
    Following a lengthy hanging the victim was taken/cut down whereupon his entrails were cut from his body a sometimes burnt before their eyes.
    What followed was the quartering. Arms and legs were lopped off.
    Pretty sure that ligatures were used to prevent sudden death before finally decapitating the victim.
    For a video with this title it sure seems tame compared to other accounts of this form of execution.
    Nice little history lesson though.

    • @neptunedawn7121
      @neptunedawn7121 3 роки тому +1

      Hung, drawn and quartered execution became the inspiration for the 8th Amendment.

    • @Saphire_Throated_Carpenter_Ant
      @Saphire_Throated_Carpenter_Ant 3 роки тому +5

      The ligatures may not have been necessary. I've seen a video where the cartel cut a mans arms and legs off and then beat him with his own appendages. The dude was still alive when the video cut out about 10 minutes later, although I'm sure he was wishing he wasn't.

    • @christopherhazell420
      @christopherhazell420 3 роки тому +2

      @@Saphire_Throated_Carpenter_Ant what!? Oh good Lord! Where did you see that, Live Leak or Twitter!? Grotesque.

    • @Saphire_Throated_Carpenter_Ant
      @Saphire_Throated_Carpenter_Ant 3 роки тому +1

      @@christopherhazell420 I don't remember but what I do remember is it was a VERY dumb thing to do but a bunch if us were hanging out and the conversation got going that way and I think we all saw things that day we should not have and would not have if we weren't together egging each other on to go further. Now I know all about what the cartel and ISIS does to people and what the people who jumped on 9/11 looked like when they landed. I am pretty sure I have mild PTSD from that day and do not envy the people who have seen such things in person.

    • @christopherhazell420
      @christopherhazell420 3 роки тому

      @@Saphire_Throated_Carpenter_Ant no doubt. (I sure was not going to view any of it.) True, EMT, Firefighters, & police can experience brutal scenes. (Soldiers in war too)
      Seen some vile videos of warcrimes committed by Azeri soldiers against Armenians last fall 😑 won't do that again.

  • @greganderson1070
    @greganderson1070 3 роки тому +30

    I've been and visited whitby Abbey and it took my breath away

    • @KempSimon
      @KempSimon 3 роки тому +6

      I used to live a relatively short walk up the valley of the River Skell from Fountains Abbey in north Yorkshire. Even in ruins the remains of this Cistercian Monastery are impressive. Tintern Abbey, on the Welsh side of the River Wye near Chepstow, is also worth a visit once the Covid-19 lockdown is over!

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  3 роки тому +3

      It honestly is an incredible place to visit. (The steps walking up there though, cor it's hard work!)

    • @user-kq5qp6dh8l
      @user-kq5qp6dh8l 3 роки тому +2

      I go every weekend in summer

    • @j0nnyism
      @j0nnyism 3 роки тому +2

      My ancestor landed there in the late nineteenth century from Eastern Europe. It was after he had done a property deal. All the other passengers on the boat died mysteriously

  • @iparipaitegianiparipaitegi4643
    @iparipaitegianiparipaitegi4643 3 роки тому +35

    That’s the beginning of the Anglican church.

    • @dantheman4838
      @dantheman4838 3 роки тому +6

      @@steventhompson5256 There was absolutely nothing socialist about the protestant reformation. Nothing whatsoever.

    • @jonathanfinan722
      @jonathanfinan722 3 роки тому +4

      @@steventhompson5256 I'd put a substantial bet on you not knowing what at least 50% of your words mean.

    • @si4632
      @si4632 3 роки тому +4

      @@dantheman4838 what about the satanic French revolution totally socialist🤣

    • @TheGrenadier97
      @TheGrenadier97 3 роки тому +1

      A bloody and savage start.

    • @DarrellBeckford
      @DarrellBeckford 3 роки тому

      @@jonathanfinan722 I don't think you have what it takes, financially or intellectually but that's the great thing about UA-cam, you get to pretend you do...

  • @stevejam1586
    @stevejam1586 3 роки тому +5

    Once again you can see evil people can get to positions of great power

  • @g-man7883
    @g-man7883 3 роки тому +6

    A bunch of savages and barbarians. Like Thomas Hobbes said “Life was nasty, brutish and short”

  • @barbaralucas1220
    @barbaralucas1220 3 роки тому +4

    Great stuff thank you so much 😊

  • @bhbluebird
    @bhbluebird 3 роки тому +2

    What a monster and he reigned for 38 years. His success (if you want to call it that) is because he understood that staying in power required he be a bigger monster than his enemies.
    He also understood that the only thing worse than being powerless, was to have power and then lose it.

  • @sallybutton6237
    @sallybutton6237 3 роки тому +4

    The correct term for his execution is “hung, drawn & quartered”.

  • @diligafifunouno641
    @diligafifunouno641 3 роки тому

    So glad these got suggested to me. I’m hooked!

  • @cristianne3040
    @cristianne3040 3 роки тому +14

    The monks lived with great wealth. Richer than the King and have nothing to the people. They fooled people into spending money to see bones of Saints, which they wasnt, blood of Christ and so on. To be hung drawn and quarter was horrific.

    • @proudhon100
      @proudhon100 3 роки тому +8

      The monasteries also provided a sort of welfare service to the destitute, a fact noted by atheist Richard Cobden in his "Political Register" publication nearly three hundred years later in 1806. The dissolution was a looting operation that made friends of Henry extremely rich, and that wealth persisted down to the twentieth century, a fact that came out during the Parliamentary debate on the disestablishment of the Welsh Church in 1914.

    • @JohnDoe-ee6qs
      @JohnDoe-ee6qs 3 роки тому +3

      Any reference for this?, as it sound's interesting

  • @deangallagher1360
    @deangallagher1360 2 роки тому

    Love these videos😉

  • @Gunners_Mate_Guns
    @Gunners_Mate_Guns 3 роки тому +11

    With friends like Cromwell and Henry VIII, who needs enemas?

    • @sabro3492
      @sabro3492 3 роки тому +3

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @robertshepherd7628
      @robertshepherd7628 3 роки тому +1

      Both of them apparently. They were both full of it.

  • @logoswars5297
    @logoswars5297 4 місяці тому

    It would benefit the channel to include sources for each documentary at the end of every video, enabling viewers to conduct further research. This addition would greatly enhance the channel's value.

  • @thhseeking
    @thhseeking 3 роки тому +4

    How can you be "lifeless but still alive"?

  • @chevyvega6622
    @chevyvega6622 3 роки тому +1

    with all the mass shooting and crime today one hears the line, "whats wrong with people". I always say,"people have not changed, they are still the same, but the times have". This is a good example of that.

  • @darleneadamski6749
    @darleneadamski6749 3 роки тому +16

    He did all that for a woman and a false promise. Just goes to show you can lead a man around by his neither region.

    • @eldermillennial8330
      @eldermillennial8330 3 роки тому

      That and his brother’s strange death. But that was just the excuse he used, ultimately, to justify the rest of it. Even worse was his irrational hatred for all things Scottish. If he had been willing to have a Scottish heir, ALL of this could have been avoided.

    • @darleneadamski6749
      @darleneadamski6749 3 роки тому

      @@eldermillennial8330 I agree. His pride and ego- as well as women is what ruined him. He never thought with his brain. What a waste. He could have been great.

    • @DeidreL9
      @DeidreL9 3 роки тому

      He did it to secure a male heir, to propagate his own bloodline. Women just happened to have a womb.

    • @darleneadamski6749
      @darleneadamski6749 3 роки тому

      @@DeidreL9 had no idea. Amazing. 🙄

  • @yvonnepetty3400
    @yvonnepetty3400 3 роки тому +2

    We used to live not far from Glastonbury _& used to go for picnics up the Tor. Good thing i didn't know about this then . Henry was pure Evil. Thanks from Africa. 😊🐘.

  • @maryapatterson
    @maryapatterson 3 роки тому +52

    When you look back this was just about having a male heir and who was responsible for not having one...Henry 8th since its the man who decides the sex of the offspring.smh 😑

    • @netcomdowney
      @netcomdowney 3 роки тому +5

      Much more to do with the financial power of the Church, possibility of invasion from forces sympathetic with the Pope (Charles V), aftermath of the Wars of the Roses. This is the undercurrent of politics throughout the 16th and into the 17th Century. Unfortunately, show trials, Primogeniture and A sense of the divine right of kings were all part of the brutal politics of the time.

    • @gwsmith4872
      @gwsmith4872 3 роки тому +8

      This is the story I tell when someone asks me to define or explain irony. The King executed men women and children because he didn’t have an heir and ends up its the man genes that determine the XY factor.

    • @christianfreedom-seeker934
      @christianfreedom-seeker934 3 роки тому +2

      Last I checked, male/female is entirely random.

    • @maryapatterson
      @maryapatterson 3 роки тому +2

      If Catherine had just done the right thing and produced a son(sarcasm)..of course there were other things going on, but let's not sweep under the carpet the many women regardless of race, class or religion that have lost their lives for not producing a male or being a male. Hundreds of years on and now with scientific proof....its utter poppycock!

    • @Ubu987
      @Ubu987 3 роки тому +1

      @@christianfreedom-seeker934 What is your sample size? Just asking

  • @chrishenderson07
    @chrishenderson07 3 роки тому +1

    King Henry the VIII was a terribly brutal and horrible king. The more you know about his reign, the more you realize how cruel and ruthless he actually was.

  • @tonyloechte9994
    @tonyloechte9994 3 роки тому +3

    Must have been a really savage time the Tudor period
    Because I don’t know anyone who survived it.

    • @Meow_Zedong_1949
      @Meow_Zedong_1949 3 роки тому

      William Shakespeare, he lived during the early part of James I's reign too so he made it to the Stuart period.

  • @garyp1432
    @garyp1432 3 роки тому +2

    Imagine being an executioner? Bloody hell and then going to church every Sunday

  • @g2macs
    @g2macs 3 роки тому +5

    You skipped over the gory details, when he was taken from the gallows still alive, they cut off his tackle and threw it into a fire they then gutted him and whilst still breathing removed his intestines (drawn) then he was beheaded and cut up into four bits.

  • @onlyhuman1954
    @onlyhuman1954 3 роки тому +1

    There is no worse monster on this planet than man. None. The horrors he is ready to inflict on those who fall under his hooves knows no end nor end to the inventiveness. I hope hell is infinite because it needs to be to accommodate past and present.

  • @robertstonebreaker8394
    @robertstonebreaker8394 3 роки тому +8

    Sounds like Henry the eighth had some serious anger issues diet and exercise would of been beneficial in his situation !!

    • @rachie_sherlock
      @rachie_sherlock 3 роки тому

      Antibiotics and he'd of been a nicer man haha

  • @desiguy55
    @desiguy55 3 роки тому +1

    This is not only a case of lust for Ann Boleyn, it's also a case of greed and money. king Henry needed to build castles or forts all along the seaboard to ward of a possible french invasion. the materials for the castles would be very expensive but if he seized all those abbeys, the material is free. so as you can see from the pictures, they tore down these abbeys to use the material for his forts.

  • @dannyjacobs6734
    @dannyjacobs6734 3 роки тому +9

    I was to thank King Henry VIII for helping make TheUntoldPast UA-cam channel possible!

    • @ThatHungryAfricanChild
      @ThatHungryAfricanChild 3 роки тому

      I'm also glad many innocent old abbeys could be brutally executed for our enjoyment

  • @richardwhiting4180
    @richardwhiting4180 3 роки тому +2

    Very interesting, thank you.

  • @tomsheppard378
    @tomsheppard378 3 роки тому +6

    We have a monastery near to where we live, Wenlock Priory, looks very beautiful shame about its current state

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  3 роки тому +1

      Wenlock Priory is on the list of places for me to visit once lockdown is over! Thanks for your comment Tom!

    • @tomsheppard378
      @tomsheppard378 3 роки тому

      @@TheUntoldPast perhaps Shropshire is a little spoiled for Monasteries with Buildwas Abbey near Telford. Let's hope the lockdown ends soon so we can all go back to appreciating these beautiful places, full of history

    • @tomsheppard378
      @tomsheppard378 3 роки тому +2

      @オリエ生駒エイリアン中二 you know Wenlock Priory is in Shropshire a long way from Sri Lanka? Maybe the Temple of the Sacred Tooth Relic is closer to Sri Lanka. Mr Untold past did say when lockdown was finished he may visit much Wenlock not Sri Lanka

  • @THINKincessantly
    @THINKincessantly 2 роки тому +1

    Henry experienced no happiness in life because of his brutality
    Cromwell sure had time to think about all
    the misdeeds and deaths he was responsible for before his head was lopped off
    Same for Thomas More....
    What a miserable lot

  • @kateguilfoyle5155
    @kateguilfoyle5155 3 роки тому +4

    Thank you for telling this history - it is completely misrepresented by conventional narratives.

  • @hzj7920
    @hzj7920 3 роки тому +1

    Nothing else but the ultimate WEALTH GRAB.

  • @michaeljames4444
    @michaeljames4444 3 роки тому +12

    a) What were religious institutions doing with so much wealth when a vast majority of people were poor?
    b) How brutal was the "Church" to those it deemed heretics?
    No sympathy for them from me!

    • @David-lu4gq
      @David-lu4gq 3 роки тому +5

      You don't think about the work that the Church did for the poor. Massive amounts. Food, medicine, farmland to name a few. Much of what we know was either lost through dissolutions such as that caused by Henry, or the "Black Legend", anti Catholic myths perpetrated by the Protestant Nations of England, The Netherlands and the different German provinces to name a few. Bad should be remembered, but let's not forget that over the centuries these things get highly edited, altered and tweaked.

    • @JohnJones-qh2ko
      @JohnJones-qh2ko 3 роки тому +1

      Taking the power away from the monisteries was the START of democracy.Thomas Cromwell did us all a big favour

    • @michaeljames4444
      @michaeljames4444 3 роки тому +2

      @@David-lu4gq
      It is more like they took from the poor and gave a little back.

    • @sklenars
      @sklenars 3 роки тому +2

      Fact is there was nothing like the riches Henry had expected to grab, so they trashed the tabernacles and and other holy objects, melted them down and divided the ingots amongst the cronies. The monasteries were central to country life in those times, providing for the peoples religious needs, education, feeding the poor and taking care of the sick. When they had finished their dirty work, a new word entered the English language....The Poorhouse

    • @whathappening5323
      @whathappening5323 3 роки тому

      @@David-lu4gq Not if you go back and read some of the histories behind it all.John fox's outlines some of what happens and why from his observations. www.gutenberg.org/files/22400/22400-h/22400-h.htm is an abridged account of that work.
      Maybe those who orchestrated it, in the beginning, reaped some of what they sowed. Seeing behind the tweaking could be the eye-opener.

  • @sulijoo
    @sulijoo 3 роки тому +1

    "That was the worst practical joke since Cardinal Wolsey got his nob out at Hampton Court, and stood at the end of the passage pretending to be a door!" - Edmund Blackadder

    • @bhbluebird
      @bhbluebird 3 роки тому

      I really need to watch that show.

  • @timjohnson1199
    @timjohnson1199 3 роки тому +16

    I'd like to camp out in the ruins and listen to the voices.

    • @beccaboo3040
      @beccaboo3040 3 роки тому +6

      Same. Also I'd like to get me metal detector out and go treasure hunting.🙂

    • @standupstraight9691
      @standupstraight9691 3 роки тому +1

      The only voices are the ones in your head

    • @timjohnson1199
      @timjohnson1199 3 роки тому +8

      @@standupstraight9691 Well. Ya know what I mean. Ruins are kinda cool and all the more interesting because there's none around here in the northern Peoples Republic of Illinois. The only ones I've slept in was an old French fort outside of New Orleans.

    • @hideousruin
      @hideousruin 3 роки тому +2

      @@timjohnson1199 Do you remember the name of the fort? And are you sure it was French?
      I'm not saying it wasn't as you say. I'm from New Orleans but I don't know that much about the history. It's actually a shame, I need to get out there. I love riding my bike through the old cemeteries.

    • @hideousruin
      @hideousruin 3 роки тому +5

      @@standupstraight9691 Ahh yes. There may not be an omnipresent deity, but there is always an Evangelical Atheist around ready to blow out someone else's birthday candles.

  • @juliacrisp7311
    @juliacrisp7311 3 роки тому +2

    We should remember that he had 2 horrific accidents and was noted that his personality changed dramatically after being unconscious for a considerable time. Today after much debate and going by the then doctors, and writings and reports of that time, doctors specialising in such injuries agree Henry had in fact a life threatening brain injury. I am not excusing his barbaric behaviour, however he was a completely different King after the injury.

    • @Kitiwake
      @Kitiwake 3 роки тому

      It was syphilis.

  • @davidabbotts5056
    @davidabbotts5056 3 роки тому +9

    with my surname,i kind of feel for this guy.