I was issued one in the Marine corps in 1983 and it still amazes me that we were shooting these at 500 yards with iron sights..now days we can’t live without our optics.. it was a great rifle.. so light and handy..
@wyomarine Hey wyomarine; I too am former Marine Corps (0311) from 1974-1980. Yes we did qualify with iron sights at 500 yards and sometimes at 600 yards. Here's an interesting perspective. My son just finished 4 years in the Marine Corps (also 0300) but his entire career was with scoped rifles. One thing learning with iron sights did for me was that no matter what I shoot, my group is always tight. Even pistols at distance and even at my age with arthritis, etc. When I take my son to the pistol range I notice that his groups are not very tight. I think this is due to his over-reliance on the scope and not ever having really had to use iron sights. Have you had this experience with any younger shooters as well? What do you or anybody out there think is the best way to quickly fix this problem? Semper Fi
@@2wheeleddemon999 carried the A1 in the service, today I have one 20” rifle, 2 18” and one 16”. All with optics. my next rifle will be a retro A1 for nostalgia alone, my eyes aren’t what they were in 86. Lol
Looks exactly like what I was issued, many decades ago. 3-prong flash hider at Smoke Bomb Hill, Ft Jackson and the bird cage at Bragg. Almost brings back the smell.
@@KitBadger For sure. I'm really glad to see someone reproducing these old warhorses. My first AR was a retro build I did with an original Colt M16A1 upper. Needless to say, I have a soft spot for guns of this period. ;)
Carried an A1 upper with an E1 lower through basic, loved the rifle. That was in 1986 at Ft. McClellan AL. People today are spoiled by red dots and advanced optics. There is no school like old school to teach a person to shoot. Once I arrived at permanent duty they handed me a M60 and really made me miss the weight of the A1. Use it’s strengths in evaluating it, weight, great sights good accuracy light ammunition and compare it against its contemporaries. AK47, M14, G3, FAL and you will see why it was the right choice at that time.
I still shoot a M16 semi I helped build in the early '70s. Three pronged but added a round hand guard and an original Colt 3x scope. Not quite like the M16E1 issued to me in Vietnam but enough like it. 1:12 barrels do their job with 55 grain M193 ammo if I do mine. I still like that it weighs less than other ARs. Never thought of mine as a retro. Thanks for the video. You looked quite dashing going through the drills. Semper Fi
When I first joined as 0351 we were issued A1's. Kickin it old school yo..The A2's were an improvement..hated the A4..loved M4..Seen the AR platform evolve and if the SHTF that retro would serve you well..get some! Semper Fi!
I'm in my mid-40s and grew up watching all of the 1980s Vietnam War themed movies and television shows. Many years later, I am just now noticing how anachronistic many of these movies were, most particularly seeing 30rd round mags.
@@KitBadger seems the only people that know about them are people actually in the field. I heard about them from my navy buddy who worked with some seal teams (he wasn't a seal, but rubbed elbows with some people).
Very lovely retro rifle. My 'retro' is of the A2 line in the late 90s. This one you have, my dad would love to get his paws on. Your 20-round magazines and 3-prong flash hider also make it seem like you have a time machine youtube channel :)
2:56 Quote: "I'll be honest, this thing kinda feels like a toy." Indeed, now you know first hand why it was nicknamed the "Mattel 16" when it was first introduced to soldiers. Particularly when it was handed to soldiers who were used to the M14.
@@KitBadger Ha, not a big M14 fan I take it? I have a soft spot for the old war horse, I still prefer the FAL but I'm a fan of pretty much all the .308/7.62 battle rifles. With many of these "Retro" guns, while well made replicas, they don't offer the modern advances or conveniences, such as sighting, which we have today. Nothing you'd want to treat as a serious weapon for serious situations, they're the real life equivalent of what gamers affectionately refer to as "meme guns". They're nice as collectibles and something to have fun with at the range or put in a display case just because you want to have it. Kind of like a S&W model 29 classic, there's far better guns you could have - but you just really want *that* one. There's no objective reason to have a model 29 over a Ruger Redhawk. The Redhawk is less expensive, stainless steel rather than blued, just as accurate, the trigger will smooth itself to eventually being as good, is almost unbreakable and the Ruger can digest a steady diet of +P+ heavy buffalo bore loads without so much as stretching a screw. All that being said.... if you have a S&W model 29... you have a S&W model 29. Sometimes you just want what you want, the retro guns are that way. More over, I don't state any of the above as a criticism - I don't see anything wrong with it. People like what they like, it's their money - if they want a retro rifle, I say go for it.
@@ObservingLibertarian I'm with you, I think any guns people like is a win big picture. And while I appreciate nostalgia, I'm too much of a pragmatist to have some of those old war horses. :)
@@KitBadger When it comes to the .308/7.62 battle rifles: I think they still have a role to fill as DMRs. The M110 exists for a reason and the US Military had to take ye olde M14's out of mothball boxes and scope them for a reason. The DMR is an astonishingly useful combat implement. If you can scope it and get 3 moa or better: you can position one DMR gunner somewhere in your troop deployment and gain effective control over the battlefield for the next 600 to 700 yards. Rendering enemy sniper and machine gun positions moot by providing accuracized fire as your own forces advance.
@@ObservingLibertarian that caliber yes, that rifle, hell no. It has horrible ergonomics, inaccurate and heavy as hell. Lots of viable 308s these days though.
@@KitBadger Turned out quite nice. The handguards are from Tony's Customs, made using modern polymers and techniques. It's basically just a slightly modernized A2 with A1 handguards. Feels amazing in the hands. The carry handle is from Optics Factory; it's surprisingly heavy but rock solid. It's never going to break.
@@KitBadger unless you are from a communist ban state like nj :( , I build all my own from parts (complying with laws) but more satisfying than buying one
Nice is this part of your next tactical games get up ? Cool stuff excited for the review but need to get some olive drab jungle fatigues to go with the retro rifle lil
Some folks in the Brownells review section on the retro rifles mentioned problems zeroing the gun. They stated they were running out of adjustments or maxed out adjustments just to get on target. Did you have any issues with zeroing?
@@KitBadger Beautiful rifle btw. I really want one. I'd make it my duty rifle in a heartbeat. How does that grey look in person? Im mostly used to all black rifles so it looks strange to me but maybe in person it's better.
Chase tactical is the US distributor for Warrior Assault Systems, so its just a rebrand. Chase has a lot of sub-brands like Disruptive Products and WAS.
I was issued one in the Marine corps in 1983 and it still amazes me that we were shooting these at 500 yards with iron sights..now days we can’t live without our optics.. it was a great rifle.. so light and handy..
You can reach out with irons if you do your part. :)
@wyomarine Hey wyomarine; I too am former Marine Corps (0311) from 1974-1980. Yes we did qualify with iron sights at 500 yards and sometimes at 600 yards. Here's an interesting perspective. My son just finished 4 years in the Marine Corps (also 0300) but his entire career was with scoped rifles. One thing learning with iron sights did for me was that no matter what I shoot, my group is always tight. Even pistols at distance and even at my age with arthritis, etc.
When I take my son to the pistol range I notice that his groups are not very tight. I think this is due to his over-reliance on the scope and not ever having really had to use iron sights. Have you had this experience with any younger shooters as well? What do you or anybody out there think is the best way to quickly fix this problem?
Semper Fi
That rifle is hella sweet. I’ve always liked the old school 20” battle rifle.
20 is the way to go. I just wish I knew that when I did my first build
2wheeled Demon I’ll be posting a review and range day of my fn m16 collector soon if you guys want be on the lookout for it
Ya, they are a lot of fun.
@@billwilliams1353 I'll go check it out.
@@2wheeleddemon999 carried the A1 in the service, today I have one 20” rifle, 2 18” and one 16”. All with optics. my next rifle will be a retro A1 for nostalgia alone, my eyes aren’t what they were in 86. Lol
👍 the smile when you open the rifle box says it ALL..
Best regards.
Right?! :)
@@KitBadger
👍RIGHT !!!
BEST REGARDS.
Looks exactly like what I was issued, many decades ago. 3-prong flash hider at Smoke Bomb Hill, Ft Jackson and the bird cage at Bragg. Almost brings back the smell.
It is a pretty legit clone...
That transition from lefty back to righty after shooting prone under the vehicle was sexual. Love these rifles.
Haha, they are a lot of fun to shoot. :)
Ivan, that look on your face when you first see the M16E1 says it all. That thing looks cool as hell.
Its pretty bad ass.... :)
Very dope. I always enjoy shooting my dad's m16. Nothing better than whipping out an old, trusty rifle. Cheers mate
Ya, my Grandfather had a old M16A1 when I was a kid. So cool. :)
2:00 caught in the emotion ? .... shows zero emotions ..
Love you Kit
Thanks for watching. :)
Pretty slick, dude. Brownells is killing it with their Retro line! I'm super impressed with their quality and authenticity.
Ya, they really nailed it on their Retro Line.
@@KitBadger For sure. I'm really glad to see someone reproducing these old warhorses. My first AR was a retro build I did with an original Colt M16A1 upper. Needless to say, I have a soft spot for guns of this period. ;)
Carried an A1 upper with an E1 lower through basic, loved the rifle. That was in 1986 at Ft. McClellan AL. People today are spoiled by red dots and advanced optics. There is no school like old school to teach a person to shoot. Once I arrived at permanent duty they handed me a M60 and really made me miss the weight of the A1. Use it’s strengths in evaluating it, weight, great sights good accuracy light ammunition and compare it against its contemporaries. AK47, M14, G3, FAL and you will see why it was the right choice at that time.
They are incredibly well engineered guns, to this day. :)
I still shoot a M16 semi I helped build in the early '70s. Three pronged but added a round hand guard and an original Colt 3x scope. Not quite like the M16E1 issued to me in Vietnam but enough like it. 1:12 barrels do their job with 55 grain M193 ammo if I do mine. I still like that it weighs less than other ARs. Never thought of mine as a retro. Thanks for the video. You looked quite dashing going through the drills. Semper Fi
That sounds like a cool rifle. I still want to try one of those 3x scopes sometime.
Another home run, thanks Ivan.
No problem buddy, thanks for watching.
Mmm, simplicity.
Brownells M16E1 made by Primary Weapons in Boise Idaho. Takes me back to 1990.
Haha, they are so cool. :)
That's awesome didn't know pws made them for brownells
Always glad to see new videos!
Thanks for watching Jeff! :)
Totally digging the cut down Trooper ya have there
It’s a fun vehicle. :)
When I first joined as 0351 we were issued A1's. Kickin it old school yo..The A2's were an improvement..hated the A4..loved M4..Seen the AR platform evolve and if the SHTF that retro would serve you well..get some! Semper Fi!
Kill Devil.
I'm in my mid-40s and grew up watching all of the 1980s Vietnam War themed movies and television shows. Many years later, I am just now noticing how anachronistic many of these movies were, most particularly seeing 30rd round mags.
Right?! :)
This is the only video online of chase tactical low vis plate carriers. I just purchased their SOCC-M1. They aren't well known.
I'll eventually finish out my full review. It is a pretty solid carrier.
@@KitBadger seems the only people that know about them are people actually in the field. I heard about them from my navy buddy who worked with some seal teams (he wasn't a seal, but rubbed elbows with some people).
Just ordered a CT LVPC in multicam. Thanks for showing us cool products!
Glad to share it!
Thank you for the great video, Ivan. Always informative and entertaining.
My pleasure Shawn, thanks for watching!
That’s how you kick it old school! Cool gear Ivan.
Thanks man. :)
Very lovely retro rifle. My 'retro' is of the A2 line in the late 90s. This one you have, my dad would love to get his paws on. Your 20-round magazines and 3-prong flash hider also make it seem like you have a time machine youtube channel :)
That rifle FEELS like a time machine. :)
Fortunate Son #CLUTCH
Winter is coming, time to put a tent in back of the Trooper 🤔
I've got something planned.
Now the Tactical Games just needs to open up a Retro division...
It basically is, no LVPOs or Dots on Handguns...
Lol digging the old school retro rifle. Looking forward to hear how it performs.
Me too, it is doing good so far. :)
2:56 Quote: "I'll be honest, this thing kinda feels like a toy."
Indeed, now you know first hand why it was nicknamed the "Mattel 16" when it was first introduced to soldiers. Particularly when it was handed to soldiers who were used to the M14.
I could totally see that, especially after handling that boat anchor of a gun.
@@KitBadger Ha, not a big M14 fan I take it? I have a soft spot for the old war horse, I still prefer the FAL but I'm a fan of pretty much all the .308/7.62 battle rifles.
With many of these "Retro" guns, while well made replicas, they don't offer the modern advances or conveniences, such as sighting, which we have today. Nothing you'd want to treat as a serious weapon for serious situations, they're the real life equivalent of what gamers affectionately refer to as "meme guns".
They're nice as collectibles and something to have fun with at the range or put in a display case just because you want to have it. Kind of like a S&W model 29 classic, there's far better guns you could have - but you just really want *that* one. There's no objective reason to have a model 29 over a Ruger Redhawk. The Redhawk is less expensive, stainless steel rather than blued, just as accurate, the trigger will smooth itself to eventually being as good, is almost unbreakable and the Ruger can digest a steady diet of +P+ heavy buffalo bore loads without so much as stretching a screw. All that being said.... if you have a S&W model 29... you have a S&W model 29. Sometimes you just want what you want, the retro guns are that way.
More over, I don't state any of the above as a criticism - I don't see anything wrong with it. People like what they like, it's their money - if they want a retro rifle, I say go for it.
@@ObservingLibertarian I'm with you, I think any guns people like is a win big picture. And while I appreciate nostalgia, I'm too much of a pragmatist to have some of those old war horses. :)
@@KitBadger When it comes to the .308/7.62 battle rifles: I think they still have a role to fill as DMRs. The M110 exists for a reason and the US Military had to take ye olde M14's out of mothball boxes and scope them for a reason. The DMR is an astonishingly useful combat implement. If you can scope it and get 3 moa or better: you can position one DMR gunner somewhere in your troop deployment and gain effective control over the battlefield for the next 600 to 700 yards. Rendering enemy sniper and machine gun positions moot by providing accuracized fire as your own forces advance.
@@ObservingLibertarian that caliber yes, that rifle, hell no. It has horrible ergonomics, inaccurate and heavy as hell. Lots of viable 308s these days though.
I just did my own retro build, although I stuck in a few modern enhancements, such as an Ergo grip and a carbon fiber carry handle.
Nice, how do you like it?
@@KitBadger Turned out quite nice. The handguards are from Tony's Customs, made using modern polymers and techniques. It's basically just a slightly modernized A2 with A1 handguards. Feels amazing in the hands. The carry handle is from Optics Factory; it's surprisingly heavy but rock solid. It's never going to break.
@@WardenWolf nice, sounds cool.
Dude, you HAVE to get the old school heat shroud and mock M203 now. Reenact Predator. Great video, love your content.
Thanks!
That would be pretty awesome...
Weird vehicle, can't blame the A1 for that.
I packed the A1 73/76 4th ID, never let me down.
👍
an american classic song for a classic american rifle, good job brother.
Thanks man. :)
@kit badger Sportsman's Guide has M7 bayonets on sale for $35, I got mine last week. That's half of anyone else's price.
I looked on there, but they were sold out when I did. :(
I like the retros from brownells i was looking at them the other day. I like the PC to most certainly a clone of the ferro PC.
Ya, Brownells hit it out of the park with their Retros.
@@KitBadger unless you are from a communist ban state like nj :( , I build all my own from parts (complying with laws) but more satisfying than buying one
I love this position 7:22
Cool cool cool
My dude! Fully semi automatic!
All. The. Time.
I want to get the Brownells prototype.
I want the brownells retro ar-10 so fucking badly
That thing is pretty rad...
Who cuts the back off of a old school Isuzu Trooper 😂😂😂😂
Nice is this part of your next tactical games get up ? Cool stuff excited for the review but need to get some olive drab jungle fatigues to go with the retro rifle lil
It just might be...
The same company is again making a 3x and 4x for Brownells. They can even be used at night. Good luck
I would love to try one of those sometime.
WWGDAD? What would Grey Death Adder do? Would he approve of this rifle? Obviously his opinion matters to us uninitiated.
I see him more as a Mosin Nagant operator.
Mosin + Bayonet He only loads the rifle if things get really bad.
Any plans of getting a helmet from Chase as well, or maybe a ballistic test of their plates?
I'm not sure, I haven't checked out their helmets. As far as ballistic testing, NIJ does a better job. :)
Some folks in the Brownells review section on the retro rifles mentioned problems zeroing the gun. They stated they were running out of adjustments or maxed out adjustments just to get on target. Did you have any issues with zeroing?
No, I had no issue whatsoever. It was easy to get zeroed at 50 and then confirm at 200.
No pun intended but that chest gear ain't gonna protect your noggin from sniper fire !!!!
#truth
how does the cummerbund connect in the back? looks more secure than the slickster
Velco onto the inside.
@@KitBadger Awesome thanks
I wonder how many of THESE beto sold
Ironically, a lot I imagine.
@@KitBadger Beautiful rifle btw. I really want one. I'd make it my duty rifle in a heartbeat. How does that grey look in person? Im mostly used to all black rifles so it looks strange to me but maybe in person it's better.
i dont know if i should order full rifle or get lower smack it on top. cuz i live in cail
The full set up is awesome... So, I'd move. :)
That's a lot of gas in the first 20 rounds.
I'm trying to get one now and nobody has it. It suck when you have the means to buy it and can't
Tough times to buy anything these days.
No big deal!! 😏😉🤣
The only real remaining question is: M7 or M9?
Bayonet? M7...
If you really want to go retro, lose the planet carrier for a flak jacket.
#heatcasualty
I concur lol
O nuuu I messed up the lovely 100 likes 🙈🙈😭
To clean for retro...
Fix that.😛👍
The dirt will come... :)
This is basically a copy of warrior assault systems CPC
Chase tactical is the US distributor for Warrior Assault Systems, so its just a rebrand. Chase has a lot of sub-brands like Disruptive Products and WAS.
@@tstststs Cool I knew they used to be a WAS dealer just assumed they decided to just make their own stuff instead of getting it from UK
how much?
kitbadger.com/brownells-retro-m16e1-chase-tactical-lvpc-1st-look/
Dude I just wanted to see the gun not all the slow stupid shooting. Uhg!!!!!!
Oh shoot, if only I had know what you were looking for in the free content you're watching, I probably would have tailored it to you...
Ten-4 commando
Tough guy. Stupid. Nice AR though.
Cool.