Bikepacking ALGONQUIN P.P. secret 115 km ABANDONED CN RAILWAY - Kiosk to Achray - Gate to Gate

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    3 day bikepacking trip along the abandoned CN Railway through Algonquin Provincial Park. The journey began at Kiosk and finished 115 km later in Achray.
    This is Algonquin Provincial Park, established in 1893, making it the oldest provincial park in Canada. It spans 1.9 million acres and is home to some of the greatest backcountry trips ever taken.
    Upon closer inspection of a map, one will notice the indication of an old railway. Failed negotiations between Canadian National Railway Company and the Provincial Park regarding the transition of ownership lead to the railway being abandoned. On November, 24th, 1995, the steels rails were pulled up, the railway ties removed, and berms cut before and after each bridge to ensure travel along these paths were discouraged. For 25 years the rail trail has lay dormant…until now.
    Traveling by bike for 3 days, covering 115 kilometers of the abandoned railway, we would start our journey from the North Western Gate in Kiosk, and finish at the South East Gate in Achray. This will be known as the Trans-Algonquin mountain bike rail trail.
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  • @larryblight6339
    @larryblight6339 2 роки тому +5

    Travelled that railway with 50 Boy Scouts and 20 odd canoes from Montreal. The train dumped us and our gear at Brent at 2 AM. We canoed and foraged for dry firewood and got sick in the rain for a week. The sick people drank water from the lakes without boiling or using the disinfectant pills. Train picked us up at Brent and we went back to Montreal. Epic trip. 1968.

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  2 роки тому

      Awesome. Bet that was a trip to remember. Can't imagine camping in the park with a train rolling through at 2am, lol!

  • @hoser7706
    @hoser7706 2 роки тому +2

    This is Letterkenny gone bikepacking! ❤️🤣

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  2 роки тому +1

      I'll take that as a compliment 😂😂😂

  • @NobleEndeavours123
    @NobleEndeavours123 3 роки тому +1

    Thank-you for sharing. As someone who has bicycled around all five great lakes, owns a fat bike and has spent tons of time both backpacking and canoeing in Algonquin I really want to go bike packing there now too! Thanks for the inspiration and the video!

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for that man. The goal of almost all my videos is just to get people out and explore. I make the videos for fun, so when someone takes the time to write something like this, it is warmly welcomed. This trip in particular was just incredible. And it sounds like you have done your fair share of adventures...add this one to the list. It won't disappoint!

  • @reinhartbigl367
    @reinhartbigl367 13 днів тому +1

    Hey there, thanks for posting this video (as well as your other awesome videos).
    Ever since I watched it a couple of years ago, I’ve been very interested in riding it (as part of a longer bikepacking ride).
    Will watch again…and may have a few questions about that route if you don’t mind answering. 😊

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  13 днів тому

      For sure. Let me know if you have any questions. It's a great route.

    • @reinhartbigl367
      @reinhartbigl367 12 днів тому +1

      @@Suluk46 Third time watching your video...quite the blast! Noticed that you used some of the music I used for my GDMBR video from last year...gotta love the free-to-use YT music...very cool!
      A couple of questions;
      What time of year did you do the ride?
      (looks like spring'ish...)
      How was cell coverage along that route?
      Considering your route as the start of a mostly off road ride from North Bay to Chaffey's Lock, Ontario...
      Thanks man!!

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  11 днів тому

      We did the route in August. If you go too early in the season, that big water crossing might be an issue, but not sure. We also didn't bring cellphones with us so not sure about coverage, although I seriously doubt there would be any once you're deep in the park.

  • @AdventuresWithUnkadee
    @AdventuresWithUnkadee 2 роки тому +1

    Looks like a good time! My Dad and I did a week-long canoeing trip up there about 45 years ago. Lots of mosquitos and black flies! We would paddle to the center of the lakes so that they would return to shore and leave us alone. That route could be a nice addition to the area's draw for visitors if they develop it a little more and "legitimize" its use.

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  2 роки тому +1

      It was a great trip. I do wish it could be opened up but I doubt that will happen any time soon. I know a few people that use this route to get further into the lakes.

  • @cardiaccyclist7477
    @cardiaccyclist7477 2 роки тому +2

    Awesome video, great ride guys. That looked like a tough trail!!

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  2 роки тому

      Honestly, it's tough but its beautiful. Give it a go, you won't regret it.

  • @decentdiversions
    @decentdiversions 3 роки тому +4

    Pretty sure that was a Blanding's turtle. One of the more rare turtles in Ontario. Good find! Congrats on doing something very few others have ever even attempted - and for still rocking the Element. Honda needs to bring it back.

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому

      A few others mentioned it was a Blandings as well. I feel foolish for thinking it was a snapper especially after looking up their looks. As for the Element...best car ever!

    • @brentfoster9138
      @brentfoster9138 2 роки тому

      My element will be 18 this June, still my daily, 325000 all Ontario miles. It’s a challenge now to see how long I can keep it going. 🤙

  • @Mile-long-list
    @Mile-long-list 11 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the great video! There's another abandoned railway line west side, rain lake access road takes you there and it's a lot older and more picturesque however where you went was lovely I hope to do this one day. Myself I would use a trailer though, keep all the weight off the bike !

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  10 місяців тому

      I've got my eye on that section that goes through the park to Whitney. Have you been in it? I'm wondering how overgrown it is or if there are any water crossings.

  • @imransadventures
    @imransadventures 3 роки тому

    Wow. That’s some serious type II fun. Nice!

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому +1

      The best type of fun!

  • @hoser7706
    @hoser7706 2 роки тому

    Loved your sore knee comment! Welcome to the oldmans adventure club. Ignore all injuries and ye shall be fine!
    Thanks for the fun video!!

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  2 роки тому

      All old men have at least one bad knee...it's a must!

  • @untectings
    @untectings Рік тому +1

    These are the kind of friends you would have a great time with on trip like this

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  Рік тому

      We had a hilarious time on this trip. Best buddies for sure.

  • @joshbezaire9708
    @joshbezaire9708 3 роки тому

    Very cool! You guys are hilarious!! I might have to try that trail now!

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому +1

      Hope you liked it. The route is amazing.

  • @chrisconnors7418
    @chrisconnors7418 Рік тому +1

    As others have said, that was a Blanding’s Turtle, a species at risk. Note the yellow throat (diagnostic ID feature). Whenever we do our environmental impact surveys we monitor for Blanding’s. Snapping turtles look prehistoric. Even the babies have rough armoured shells.
    When I worked with the mnr long ago we’d often drive along the logging roads quite a distance to get to study sites. Colleagues had driven from the Kiosk end down to the highway 60 end (I didn’t get to do those trips). I kept the maps and gps tracks for myself.
    I did sneak in years later to hike some of those roads into the interior. A bit surprising how many times I had to get off the road to hide when I heard a vehicle coming. I’ve walked part of the old railway line at kiosk in the past; not something I’d want to bike.
    I am strongly tempted to go back and bike those roads though.The roads on the western side are about 50 km from my front door. Even better, a friend lives about a km from the west side Algonquin border on a dirt road that goes into the park. I could stay at his house overnight, and get into the park early.
    Great video, guys. Part of me wishes I could have been there; then a saner part laughs and says “nope”. But I may do a day loop on the old logging roads this August. You’ve reignited that old plan.

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  Рік тому +1

      Awesome, those Algonquin logging roads are a ton of fun! Just don't get caught :)

  • @jacqueline7118
    @jacqueline7118 3 роки тому

    Fantastic bikepacking trip! Laughed when you said about bringing the packraft back there for the white water. I was thinking it may have been useful for near the end there when you guys were slogging through all that deep water. haha! Cool adventure, thanks for sharing. :) :)

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому +1

      Glad you liked it! New videos coming very soon... :)

    • @jacqueline7118
      @jacqueline7118 3 роки тому

      @@Suluk46 Awesome! :)

  • @millymay333
    @millymay333 10 місяців тому

    This is awesome!! Recently canoed some of the Pet and the topic of conversation (often during portages along the railway) was “I wonder how long it would take to walk/bike this whole line…” as we regularly thought ditching the canoes would be easier! Thanks so much for sharing.

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  10 місяців тому

      Yes, the railway is often walked and biked...glad you liked it

  • @daveebert7747
    @daveebert7747 3 роки тому

    Just found your channel, awesome video, I couldn’t stop laughing. I experienced a similar “water world marsh” on a 5 day trip last summer. I loved how you guys just tried to peddle through it. Well done boys.

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому +1

      Honestly, I'm not sure I can recall a time I laughed harder, while being scared, at the same time. 😂😂😂

  • @damianchung5273
    @damianchung5273 3 роки тому

    Awesome Steve!! Next time, or now in the comments, I'd like a quick run down of the bikes you were each riding.

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому

      I cant really comment on the other guys, bu I'll ask them to respond. My rig & setup for the trip: Santa Cruz Chameleon R+, Aluminum, 27.5+ tires. Outfitted entirely in @revelatedesigns bikepacking gear. Full disclosure, I had reached out to them for sponsorship of this trip, they politely declined, so I went ahead and paid full price for everything 😊. Here is a simplified rundown of how I packed - with detailed gearlist posted later this weekend.
      Handlebar Bag (R.D. Pronghorn 23L): Tent/Sleeping Bag/Tarp/Sleeping Pad
      Seat Bag (R.D. Terrapin 14L): Clothes/Rain Gear/Personal Kit
      Frame Bag (R.D. Ranger 8.6L): Food/Kitchen Gear
      Cockpit Front (R.D. Magtank 2000 1.4L): Camera Gear
      Cockpit Left (R.D. Mountain Feedbag 1L): Snacks
      Cockpit Right (R.D. Mountain Feedbag 1L): Water Bottle
      Cockpit Rear (R.D. Jerrycan Bent 0.6L): Bike Repair Tools/Spare Tube/Patch Kits

  • @108Hawke
    @108Hawke 8 місяців тому

    Great vid! What an awesome trip to do with a couple of buddies. Looks like some great memories were made.

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  8 місяців тому

      Thanks man. We had a hilarious time and it's a great adventure.

  • @jeremytoms9698
    @jeremytoms9698 3 роки тому

    Algonquin is amazing. Thanks for doing it by bike. I'd like to try it.

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому

      Glad you enjoyed it. The trip was super fun.

  • @brentfoster9138
    @brentfoster9138 2 роки тому

    Subscribed!

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  2 роки тому

      Awesome. If you liked this one, you will love my Meanest Link bikepacking trip. It's up on my channel aswell.

  • @yamguy33
    @yamguy33 3 роки тому +1

    Good job guys! i was there the same summer they pulled the rails at brent .... what a shame that they were not smart enough to use this old rail bed as a rec trail would ove been a good way to see nature !

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому

      Thanks! It really would be an incredible official route if they opened it up. Would be cool to see when they decommissioned the line too. What an experience

  •  3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for sharing the experience guys I was wondering I’m going be camping at kiosk, would I have access to that trail ?

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 місяці тому

      It's been many years since I did the trip but you should be able to access it right from the parking lot of Kiosk.

  • @jamiemurray5116
    @jamiemurray5116 3 роки тому

    Great trip. Love the monologue at 21:00. Jokes

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому

      Best part hahaha

  • @cliffordwright1603
    @cliffordwright1603 3 роки тому

    Just found your channel and subscribed I remember the train going through one night when we were camped near achray we didn’t know about the train and it came through during the night. Scared the daylights out of us.

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому +1

      I can imagine that would be intense to hear! Lol. Lots of cool videos coming up, and big trips once we can get back out there.

  • @choobivan
    @choobivan 3 роки тому

    Your vids are inspirational and encourage backcountry adventure

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому

      Thanks man. I really do just make these videos for fun and to get people out there. Stay safe!

  • @l214laus
    @l214laus 3 роки тому

    You guys are good fun characters. Cheers

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому +1

      Lol. Glad you liked it. I've known these guys since elementary school.

  • @Adam-dr3gy
    @Adam-dr3gy 3 місяці тому +1

    Hi. Great video! I’ve been eyeing this rail line for a few years now and am going to pull the trigger and ride it this year. I’ve done a couple other rail lines in Ontario but this one is the crown for sure! Do you know if the rest of the line past Achray is rideable? Thanks again for posting the video.

    • @Adam-dr3gy
      @Adam-dr3gy 3 місяці тому +1

      What time of year did you ride it?

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 місяці тому

      We did it in August. I'm not sure what the rest of the line looks like past Achray but I have thought about checking it out.

  • @outbackwack368
    @outbackwack368 3 роки тому

    What an awesome trip. You should reach out to Rails-to-Trails to see if that can be acquired and transformed. I can hear the mosquitoes from here! Thanks! Oh, what bikes were you guys riding? NOT a snapping turtle... just a box turtle... DAMN, that beaver did an excellent job flooding the path!

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому

      Glad you liked it. We had a blast. I was riding a Santa Cruz Chameleon. The 2 other guys had Norcos but I'm not sure which ones.

  • @cycleporu
    @cycleporu 3 роки тому +1

    Great video and awesome looking trail. I'm planning to attempt this route this year. Just wondering if you purchased camp permits? If so, how did you describe your route at the park office? Also, I'm trying to figure a cheaper way to taxi my car to the end . . . maybe I should just do an out-n-back . . .

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому +1

      I purchased camp permits, same as if you were gonna canoe the route. Out and back will save you around $500. If you are a strong cyclist, you could, theoretically, do the trip in one long haul day.

  • @1997colinmurton
    @1997colinmurton 3 роки тому +1

    That looks like a great ski...

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому +1

      Winter traverse? That sounds awesome!

    • @twoolhouse7644
      @twoolhouse7644 3 роки тому

      Would be a cool ( Cold trip) . Saw a friend Buck Miller with Eric Batty and Ryan utube s video, they did it SW-NE direction off trails . ua-cam.com/video/LIzzrwtsd0E/v-deo.html
      Same group as has done a couple trips lately across top of Ontario on the Ice roads in support of kids and Northern communities.
      ua-cam.com/video/sKavmoYHMfA/v-deo.html
      A real treat, , crossing Iceland unsupported mid pandemic!
      ua-cam.com/video/ZpPabcMNLJ0/v-deo.html

  • @cassandrabrock
    @cassandrabrock 2 роки тому +1

    Hahaha leather face! Best part!

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  2 роки тому +1

      Lol. You are probably the only person who picked up on that joke!

  • @mikechajecki7323
    @mikechajecki7323 3 роки тому

    Nicely done, I'm planning on riding it this summer, maybe late spring although the trail cold be rough in April/May. Do you have a GPS file or RideWithGPS route, fit. file? I know it's a rail trail and you can't really go the wrong way but I though I ask. There isn't much information on the trail, bike wise anyway. Cheers!

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому

      Thanks man. Glad you liked it. No GPS for us. I printed out some big map pages, you can see it mounted on the front of my bike. It's pretty straight forward, with the exception of trying to find the campsites when you leave the railway. It's a bit different then when I go hiking in that you are travelling so fast on a bike, that you have the potential to miss your turnoffs. Have fun, and don't get caught 😁

  • @zoeavrilsmith
    @zoeavrilsmith 3 роки тому +2

    Would you say the trail is gravel bike friendly? I did the Algonquin Old Rail trail with 37 mm tires, though this rail trail's terrain looks a little more unruly.

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому +1

      It is very loose rock. Wider tires would be better. The regular rail trail in the campground is packed solid. This stuff is like sand, very little coasting once you stop peddling. Me and Josh had 27.5+ tires. Jamie had regular 29's and wished he had ours. A fatbike may be too wide, so somewhere in the middle is the sweetspot.

  • @bertschuh1141
    @bertschuh1141 3 роки тому +1

    Nicely done! Fat bikes maybe better option for the railbed chunder? Sadly so many great trails have these under water, drive train soaking sections with no bypass option. Wondering about water ingress to BB and wheel bearings!

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому

      Fatter tires work better for sure on this terrain. We didn't have a choice to turn back at that point, plus we ride all winter, and in all conditions. Been holding up well so far....I guess we will see.

  • @burnuts007
    @burnuts007 3 роки тому +1

    The railway was abandoned because of the days economic realities were such that CN Rail coud no longer justify the expense of maintaining the Beachburg Subdivision. Route thru Toronto to North Bay was preferred. It didn’t have anything to do with ownership.

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому +1

      Yes, you're are right, there is a bit more to the story than just when they stopped using the rail line. If you are interested in the history, read the negotiation minutes between the park and the railroad. That outlines all the issues as to why niether party wants it. Anyway, hope you like the video, it's an amazing trip.

    • @brentfoster9138
      @brentfoster9138 2 роки тому +1

      It’s kinda sad, that trail could be such an asset.

    • @jb1934
      @jb1934 2 роки тому +1

      that route is a diamond in the rough. it may not be entirely legal, but from the looks of it neither party has made much of an effort to stop people from using it. like the atv riders whose tracks are evident. maybe in northeast Algonquin they just have less issues with clueless visitors getting themselves into trouble. The bear hang cables recently installed around the joe lakes being a good example of the latter.

  • @terrycharbot5089
    @terrycharbot5089 3 роки тому +4

    I would like to add my thanks for posting this video. I have been scouring the internet for information on this route for a while. I have been visiting Algonquin Pk for 40 years in both canoe and backpack and would like to give this route a try. I have a couple of questions and if you have time would certainly appreciate the information.
    1. Did you encounter any repercussions (legal or otherwise) from your trip?
    2. It would appear (around minute 27 of your video) that you encountered some flooding. Was this fairly close to Achray and was it the only place where you had to wade?
    3. Good idea to have your vehicle shuttled from Kiosk to Achray. Was this difficult to arrange?
    4. In terms of equipment, was that a Lansham single-wall tent you were using and if so how do you like it?
    Once again, thank you for the post and I have subscribed to your channel.
    Terry

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому +3

      Hi Terry. I haven't had any pushback from the trip, during or afterwards, but am well aware it is not exactly legal to ride the railroad. Ride at your own risk! The wading was about 90km into the trip. So well north of Achray. It was the only water crossing we had to do. I arranged the car shuttle with Algonquin Outfitters. It costs about $500. The tent I used was a Z-packs Solplex. It's awesome so check them out in the web. Let me know if you need any other information, it's a great trip.

    • @terrycharbot5089
      @terrycharbot5089 3 роки тому

      @@Suluk46 Thanks so much for the quick response, much appreciated. For the cost of arranging the shuttle of your vehicle, is that a typo ($500.)? You probably meant $50. right? Thanks for the info on the tent, I am quite familiar with Z-Packs line of tents, packs and outerwear. They get very good reviews. I like your channel and Instagram. Good information and photos presented with humour and humility.

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому +1

      @@terrycharbot5089 Thanks, just an old guy living out some adventures...and nope, not a type :) Shuttle was $500.

    • @l214laus
      @l214laus 3 роки тому

      Wow! $500 seems steep. Your choice of course. I don’t know the lay of the land to know if you could have done a shuttle yourselves.
      Rail Trails as we know them in Australia are extremely popular with riders. Not always universally loved by all but basically pre COVID-19 the trails would bring quite a number of people going on long rides in the countryside.

    • @alankaye4382
      @alankaye4382 2 роки тому +1

      @@l214laus It's a question of time and labor for the shuttle. Kiosk to Achray is a 3 hour drive one way. You're paying someone to drive you out and/or bring your vehicle to the end of your trip. So 6 hours for $50 would be a wee bit cheap. It's more than 6 hours for the shuttle driver, since they AO is based on the edge of the park 45 minutes or so from Achray.

  • @TapioBlue
    @TapioBlue 3 роки тому

    I'm a believer, but I still enjoyed watching it, lol.

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому

      Don't stop believin' :)

  • @markmacmillan5838
    @markmacmillan5838 2 роки тому

    Just stumbled across your video and really enjoyed it. Looks like you guys had a blast! Any concerns with drinking the water directly along the railbed? The rail ballast is known to be somewhat contaminated.

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  2 роки тому

      That didn't even cross my mind to be honest. Might not be the best for continuous long term digestion, but for a few days likely harmless.

  • @jimchester9984
    @jimchester9984 3 роки тому

    Great job and great footage !!

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks Jim! It was a wild trip!

  • @stevepaterson9663
    @stevepaterson9663 Рік тому

    This looks like a great trip, would like to have a go myself. As for the flooded part, if you were to do it again would you consider an alternate route at all that would a avoid that section? Or is it really the only reasonable route to connect the rest?

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  Рік тому +1

      This is an awesome trip. I might do it again one day. I haven't spent much time looking, but I am doubtful that you can get around the water crossing. It's right along the rail trail and there doesn't seem to be a bypass. Plus, it's one of the challenges that all adventurers must pass to earn the badge of honor 🤣

  • @ThalassTKynn
    @ThalassTKynn 3 роки тому +1

    They should fix this trail up and make it official!

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому +1

      It's an awesome route, but I doubt they will do that. Kinda sad really just to leave it as is.

    • @ThalassTKynn
      @ThalassTKynn 3 роки тому

      @@Suluk46 If North Bay can start making cycleways anything can happen haha

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому +1

      You're probably right. 😂 I just know so much about the background of this route that I am doubtful...but would be happy to be wrong!

  • @OnatBas
    @OnatBas 2 роки тому

    Awesome video! The part that I didn’t get is the trespassing bit. Is that whole area private property? How does that work?? I would love to try it out.

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  2 роки тому +2

      It is what I call, a grey area. The railbed is not owned by the park, I have a brief explanation at the beginning of the video. The railway company still owns it, but have abandoned it.

  • @calvinloney5996
    @calvinloney5996 3 роки тому

    It seems like a very safe route for a winter ski touring trip due to the lack of open lake crossing. Do you see any issues with attempting this trip in the winter?

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому

      The only challenge would be that you are breaking trail. Other than that, would be an awesome traverse.

  • @MickaelJulliard
    @MickaelJulliard 3 роки тому

    What width tires were you guys running, do you remember?

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому +2

      I had 3" tires on mine. Not sure of the other guys. But 27.5+ will work well for this trail. True fatbike probably not required.

  • @francisbrunet38
    @francisbrunet38 2 роки тому

    I’m considering doing this ride with some friends do you know if anyone who’s done it since? We’re worried that the flooded part got worst if it’s caused by beavers.
    Great video!

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  2 роки тому

      I'm not aware of anyone who has done it since this video, but a lot of people ask about it, so it is quite possible others have ridden the route. That water crossing is wild, but even if it is much deeper, no big deal - I couldn't stop laughing. I think the deepest it got for us was just above knee level. The trip is super fun, give it a shot!

  • @johnbozak1662
    @johnbozak1662 7 місяців тому

    I did the whole line many times on a CN motorcar with my Dad who was a section foreman for the CN back in the 80’s . From Alice to Brent. I knew every bridge you over. Oh man that brings back memories. Abandoning that line “The Beachburg Sub” was the most stupidest move CN ever made. Now all coast to coast rail traffic has to go around by Toronto to North Bay instead of taking a real short cut through Algonquin Park via Ottawa to North Bay. Tree huggers got there way and CN caved to them. The same tree huggers that cry about carbon emissions and climate change now. Look how much more “carbon” is going into the air now over a stupid mistake like this. An early 90’s prophecy of a modern day term, “Go woke…….. go broke.

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  7 місяців тому

      Very cool, back when it was active. I have been looking for old railway maps to plot another route along the bottom section of Algonquin, where it goes through Whitney. Should be good fun too.

    • @johnbozak1662
      @johnbozak1662 6 місяців тому

      That was a whole different line guys. My Dad worked on that one too. That was the Renfrew Sub that ran from Ottawa to Parry Sound. Toured that line with Dad a lot too.

  • @user-vl8wg3hr9j
    @user-vl8wg3hr9j 10 місяців тому

    Is that route still doable today?

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  10 місяців тому

      I would think so. I know a few guys did it last year but it isn't maintained at all, and sees very little traffic so best to expect the worst 😁

  • @shauntakata1762
    @shauntakata1762 Рік тому

    What was your average speed? How much did you need to walk ?

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  Рік тому

      You can bike the entire route for the most part. It's an abandoned railway so the grade is like 3%. A few places are overgrown and the water crossing is probably 500m. We did it at 40km/day. I'm sure you could do it in a very long day if that's your style. The loose gravel/rocks can drain your energy fairly quickly, but nothing to really worry about.

  • @philiprayner
    @philiprayner 5 місяців тому

    what about Bears ?

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  5 місяців тому

      Yes, Algonquin has a healthy population of them.

  • @andyreid5543
    @andyreid5543 11 місяців тому

    Does CN still own the RoW?

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  11 місяців тому +1

      When I was researching this route they did, but had abandoned it after APP wouldn't take ownership because of the deposits. I doubt it has changed.

  • @darcar34
    @darcar34 3 роки тому +2

    Have to have good friends on a slog like that. Not a snapping turtle.

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому

      Thanks for the info. I've got to get up to speed on my turtles. It's a great trip if you get a chance to do it.

    • @darcar34
      @darcar34 3 роки тому

      I don't know my turtles well, but snapping turtles can't pull their heads into their shells fully and are shaped more like a plate than a bowl.

  • @philiprayner1772
    @philiprayner1772 3 роки тому

    no bear incounters ?

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому

      None. I was surprised there wasn't more wildlife considering how deep we were in the park. But the bikes move fast, so maybe we didn't notice.

  • @webbytoes3443
    @webbytoes3443 3 роки тому

    Just putting it out there do you drive a Range Rover?

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому +1

      I drive a Honda Element...world's best car :) But flattered if you thought it was a Range Rover!

    • @webbytoes3443
      @webbytoes3443 3 роки тому

      Suluk46 no the reason I asked was I seen I guy on the high way that looks just like you lol

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому +1

      @@webbytoes3443 Oh! Lol...I thought it was because at the end of this video, I show my Honda and say it's the world's best car.

    • @webbytoes3443
      @webbytoes3443 3 роки тому

      Suluk46 haven’t watched till the end yet lol... just on the way home from a 4 day trip on crown land near Algonquin

    • @Suluk46
      @Suluk46  3 роки тому +1

      @@webbytoes3443 Awesome. Hope you had a good time. I was up in Killarney last weekend and it was chilly.