Mystery solved! Regarding the "for rifles only" is because when these were exported, some countries had tariffs on PISTOL ammo but not rifle ammo. They were just being sneaky so they didn't have to pay the tariffs in other words. More good information Roger told me. 22box-id.com/
Someone just shot some Rem U.M.C. Kleenbore .22 lr's and were getting 1100+ f.p.s.they were in the green +red wartime color's box. Was it you guy's? Anyway I have shot ammo even older and as long as they were stored reasonably they were 98% effective , just use them for plinking...or sell them, they sell pretty fast! Oh but that's illegal now....-scratch that----😠 I'm 55 and have shot alot of OLD AMMO!!!!
I really enjoy these old ammunition videos. I don't know why. Maybe the nostalgia as I remember all these old boxes of ammunition my dad and granddad had around when I was a kid.
It would be great to see these self-contained ballistic-projectiles tested through the use of a vintage hand-held self-contained ballistic-projectile testing apparatus. ;-)
@Man Plan I like to see the reproduction stuff but they can't reproduce that original nostalgic smell & the texture of that super thick almost parchment like feeling paper. Something about it brings me back to my childhood & memories of gunsmithing books in my grandfather's loading room. Slightly warms the ice surrounding my heart...
there are not many original catalogs left. I suspect they mostly ended up nailed to the wall of the outhouses, at least until after the depression. I remember my grandparents outhouse had several corners from old catalogs still up on the wall.
@@BitchyBoxxy my grandfather was a simple man who cared more about people than money. I watched him (in the 80s) sell a 57 Chevy bel air 4door to a friend who needed a car, he asked "what you got in your pocket" & the guy said $92, my grandfather said "it's yours for 90 if you want it" imagine if more people were like that today....
Are you claiming that people don't value their jobs now? What sort of evidence do you have to support your claim? I know many people who value their job and the income it provides for them.
I maintain bridges for a living, so I get a good, close-up look at them. I've got WPA bridges as old as this ammunition that look better than others only 20 years old. The level of workmanship is clearly better, even to the inexperienced eye. It's a real shame that they're obsolete - not because they're in poor condition, but because the design standards of that day mean they're too narrow and don't have enough load-carrying capacity.
Take a look at the fine the grain structure of the brass even. Things were made a little differently in the past. Too bad we've lost sight of the idea of, screw the package, make sure the product is the best we can do.
I just pretended to call Danny and I asked him if you could make a video with this ammo, he said anything the viewers want is fine by him! He only asks that you save him a few. Thanks for another great video!
@@dannyakatrikerred7381 This is what makes you guys the Best! Thanks for all the videos, and thanks for not giving up on this UA-cam thing! We need more creators like you guys!
Would love to see Danny's old revolver. If hes willing to shoot it, id love to see that too. .22 operates at such low pressure, he has more chance of breaking a firing pin than anything else.
@CLureCo .22LR has a chamber pressure of roughly 3,500 PSI. Very low compared to 35,000 for a 9x19mm, or even 12,000 for a q2 gauge shotgun. Some people are afraid to shoot old guns for fear of blowing them up. I see no reasonable way to blow up a .22. Even a barrel obstruction won't do anything except bulge the barrel.
@CLureCo cite your source, please. If I'm wrong, id like to be proven wrong and move forward. People like you just saying "nope" don't help anyone or any cause. Until you cite a source, I can rebut your "nope"s with "yeah-huh".
The "Sta-Kleen" was a copyrighted name on the same order as "Glenfield". The "Xtra Range" was an attention getter. And yes, it was a wax. Not sure about the "rifle only" warning. There were a number of rounds that were essentially +P+ being made for cartridges such as the 32/20, and the 38 Special, etc, which were marked "rifles only", or in the case of the 38 "for 38/44 revolvers only". This was a legitimate warning label at the time, especially the 38/44 because it was the precursor to the 357 magnum. Small frame 38's couldn't handle it. Long way to say I think this was just a precaution at the time because of the smokeless powder and the slightly increased pressures. Plus, I've seen a number of the Smith no. 1 revolvers with bulged cylinders and I can only think that it was the result of using smokeless 22 cartridges in those black powder 22's. I will say that you surprised me with the cosmoline coated bullets. Have never seen or heard of that before. Thanks for showing them.
These throwback ammunition videos are great. It puts your mindset in a completely different perspective of how life used to be. Thanks for the content!
Awesome vid Jeff, and yeah i'd like to see a few of them fiy, but their historic and maybe worth something, Danny should keep them as a collectors item. I really do enjoy this sort of content, history is great. Thanks for the research and work you put into these videos Jeff, i appreciate it. Cheers from Oz.
Putting a word in for the demonstration of these bullets by Danny using his old revolver. Seeing vintage firearms in action is good entertainment! Thanks!
Oh for the days when you could walk into Sears and buy a gun. My first firearm (a single-shot .410) was bought out of the Sears catalog for about 20 bucks. This would have been in the late '60s.
@@willybee3056 Nice, but $200 in the '50s is not the same as $200. I don't know what the inflation rate is like but I'd wager that $200 back then was closer to $2,000 now in terms of today's money. While prices were much lower back then so were wages so actual buying power may not have been much better than it is today.
@@Riceball01 You are absolutely right. The price of gold does not go up,, the price of money goes down. Back in the 60s I bought a Browning semi auto 22 for $86 ... That was about 85% of my take home wage. In 2012 that same rifle was still 85 % of my take home wage. The problem is in the 60s I was making about $2.50 per hr. And in 2012, I was making $20 more than that... What is really bad,, in both cases, 0 is still 0... Money is a tool of enslavement. ...
@@Riceball01 buying power has actually changed drastically, simply looking around a household at what is considered normal will show that. Wasn't all that long ago that having a fridge was a luxury for the rich, even the "tiny" efficiency apartments are large living quarters compared to the one room living accommodations our ancestors called home.
@@jaydunbar7538 I never said that buying power hasn't changed, that was someone else. I was just saying that $20 50 - 60 years isn't the same as $20 now. $20 for a given item would be relatively cheap today but back during the '50s & '60s that $20 represented a much larger portion of one's annual/monthly income and thus was not as cheap as it would be considered to be today. Of course, not everything has gone up in value/price over the years and some things have remained more or less the same. Electronics, for one thing, have definitely gotten cheaper over the decades. Home computers used to be considered a luxury that few could afford but now a days, all but the poorest of households can afford a PC and they get more and more powerful every year while not getting much more expensive.
Go for it Danny, unless you are emotionally attached to the ammunition of course. I don’t really know how this can be the case but of course it may be and in that case don’t give in to any pressure, you don’t owe us we owe you.
I'm enjoying these old ammo videos. I like anything that seems like it was kept in a time capsule 💊. I don't mind you having to split them into two videos. It's a shame they demonitize anything 2A related. It's almost like they are attacking two amendments simultaneously. Both the first and second. Keep up the good work!
Don't you just love it, Jeff giving us a look at historic products, in a safe and well thought out manner. All the time being careful not to use trigger words or encourage restricted actions, such as purchasing such items. Then after this safe, careful and thoughtful video what do I get, an ad for a video game, about going around, shooting and blowing up people and things, in a carefree manner.
I'll loan you my 1899 stamped winchester 1902 so you can shoot these old bullets out of a pre serial number required antique firearm. Yup it still works and I shoot it all the time.
I don't know if you have all your monetized vids on one playlist, but if there were such a playlist, I would gladly sit down once a day and watch said list. Love all you do for us!!
WE ABSOLUTELY WANT TO SEE THESE AWESOME PIECES OF GREAT AMERICAN HISTORY FIRED. THANKS FOR THE HISTORY LESSON JEFF. I LOVE WATCHING THESE WHEN YOU POST THEM!!!!
Yes Jeff, if Danny doesn't mind parting with some of those rounds and pulls out the ole 22 revolver. I wouldn't mind seeing if they perform like the .22 rounds in the last vid simular to this.
Most people were 'dirt poor' in those due to the Great Depression. So a box of ammo was not wasted! Some ammo back in those days was sold per bullet! People had a revolver they actually bought 6 rounds at a time! Great video! Best to ya',,,,!
Very interesting - and very impressive how this ammo survived. Also the previous ammo test that showed it's still functioning - that is VERY impressive - a very stable propellant, very stable primer and a good production protocol had to be used to make it not only last - but function as well after so long. I have seen bullets forgotten on the sea shore as a kid (one here, one there) and they were eaten completely - just a miserable, weather worn stub remained...
I remember about 10 years ago me and my friend found a real old box of 38 special rounds in his stepfather’s garage. His stepfather had recently passed away and we were clearing out a bunch of stuff. The Uncle claimed that they were rounds reloaded in the 40s or 50s. When we shot them out of his old Smith and Wesson model 10, they made the barrel noticeably dirty and there was a lot of smoke. It was noticeably more smoke than another box of 38 special that we had purchased.
All metals oxidize in certain conditions. Some easier than others of course. We all know Iron will rust if you so much as look at it. But even gold can oxidize with the right chemistry.
It would definitely be cool to see Danny shoot a few of these out of his grandfather's pistol! As a side note, a site dedicated to antique .22 ammo boxes! Never ceases to amaze me what will interest people!
I really enjoyed this video, if it remains monetized and you enjoy making these type of informative videos I would certainly be interested in watching them!
The bullets aged better than Sears, Roebuck did. They are .22 Long...not Long Rifle cartridges...with a 29 gr. bullet. Very unusual today. We usually see .22 Short or .22 LR now. I am not sure if anyone even makes .22 Longs anymore. Lead absolutely does oxodize.
All TFM videos are informative & interesting, this one also illustrates both artistic elements & historical context . What's Not to Like? . Thanks To Danny for putting them in to spotlight & Jeff for the seamless & stimulating commentary , & thanks in advance to Danny for allowing a few of them to be tested scientifically through a chronograph & expertly filmed for Our Education , if they were propelled at high velocity into various suitable mediums I suspect their effects might replicate (on a small scale) meteor impacts on the moon or even on Earth itself . We will just have to wait and see if this is possible . Thanks again TFM & Crew for all the knowledge You have imparted over the years to all us lucky TFM viewers .
@taofledermaus I have some old Winchester "silver" .357mag hollopoints that I believe are from the 70's that claim to have a "silver" jacket, they're super light for caliber but chrono'd out just under 1800fps through a short barrel ranchhand. Would you like some to test?
Hello guys first time commenter long time fan. I have a few boxes of these and other old 22 rim fire exceletators. Going to try and post and pic of just one type but I have the most of them. I bought a bunch of old ammo at and auction few years ago. I have or had 2 bricks of these and they are amazingly accurate out of and half broken marlin bolt action I gave 35 bucks for. Functions fine but will not hold and magizine. But can be single loaded and is one of my favorite squirrel rifles. Love all of these old boxes and I buy any and all of it I find. Keep on keeping on. Ok no pic at the moment but there Peter's restless Target 22lr no.2224 I've done some research and just the box I believe is quite collectable. The sears ammo printed and 1in 10 shoot group at 25 yards out of that same ragged marlin..... If I can figure out the details of shipping ammo I might round up and care package. O.G. JEFF AND DANNY you guys are great. I use that same sight to find my boxes. Totalling about 10 or 12 old 22 ammo.
Dannys grandpas revolver would be great to see. Weather he lets go a few of those old 22 rounds or not. Its just good to see older handed down guns that go from generation to generation in the same family
My grandpa collects old carnival and gallery slide action 22s.. some kids probably ate up tons of that ol Sears ammo with those, I'm sure.. I'd like just to see Danny's old revolver, regardless of shooting that old ammo. Could tell him it just wouldn't look right on the shelf without an empty case or 2 with it, ya know..
That's so cool, just think about it.. How many boxes of ammo there are setting back somewhere in old dresser drawer or something like that. My dad has several different calibers of ammo from his grandfather, some with very interesting back stories... Thank you Danny for sharing that.
Cripes, those cartridges look better than some of the stuff you get at the store new. The bullets look like they could have been swaged yesterday. Really fascinating seeing those still around after so many years. Back in those days, .22 rimfire guns were as ubiquitous as a pocket knife. A box of .22 would have been lucky to make it a week without being cracked open, much less 80 plus years. Very cool video though, thanks for sharing. If Danny decides to keep them intact, I can't say I'd blame him. That said, would be interesting to see if they are as consistent as the stuff from the last box of old stuff. I was amazed at how little the shot to shot deviation was on those things.
Sears was one of my favorite stores. They had great tools and they were the go to place for appliances for US military people. There was a Sears any where you were stationed and they would take care of your Kenmore appliances. Sad that they are slowly going out of business. I wonder when they stopped selling firearms and ammo?
Yes Danny shoot them! i love shooting old ammo and see how it performs. I had a similar situation with a old box of cardboard shotshells from the 40's. They worked just as good as the day they were made.
Danny, sell this little box of ammo to a rich collector for ten grands and go on vacation. You'd be still able to buy a lot of 22s for the money left over after paying for the trip and all the whiskey.
This reminds be of the time when my friend inherited a rifle from his great uncle, and wondered why his CCIs wouldn't properly load into it, and then tried .22 short. Took me a few minutes to explain to him and his cousins that, despite .22 LR being called .22 Long all the time, there was an actual caliber called .22 Long, that was actually it's own entire round lol
Very cool video presentation, Sir! Who knew there was (is?) an organization that is dedicated to the task of documenting old .22 caliber ammo? I surely wasn't but am now! And here I thought some of the "old" ammo I have was unique in its own right. Not so much any more! Thanks again and, hopefully, Danny will allow you to fire off at least 6 rounds or so just to check the viability of some of these rounds. Talk about a Blast from the Past, huh? Take Care and..... Overnout
Love to see a few modern long rifle and a few of these broken down into components and compared by weight and powder design. Of course ballistic speeds also needs compared.
most old 22 cal. rounds from shorts, longs or long rifle are still good enough to use today if they have been kept dry. Always clean your gun after firing any cartridge.
I think with the warning they were intended to tell the consumer to only use it with a 22 rifle. The rifle was important because the barrels were a little bit thicker. They also packed in extra gunpowder for the extra range. So if you had a short barrel for an older gun it was a greater chance of explosions.
Bruce from the .22 box site told me today that they said that just because when these were exported, there was a tariff on pistol ammo but not rifle ammo.
Mystery solved! Regarding the "for rifles only" is because when these were exported, some countries had tariffs on PISTOL ammo but not rifle ammo. They were just being sneaky so they didn't have to pay the tariffs in other words. More good information Roger told me. 22box-id.com/
That's a cool bit of knowledge. Almost as good as your art deco thesis of depression era ammo boxes, lol. Keep up the good work guys.
Good info
Soothum ...Thanks...!
Someone just shot some Rem U.M.C. Kleenbore .22 lr's and were getting 1100+ f.p.s.they were in the green +red wartime color's box. Was it you guy's? Anyway I have shot ammo even older and as long as they were stored reasonably they were 98% effective , just use them for plinking...or sell them, they sell pretty fast! Oh but that's illegal now....-scratch that----😠 I'm 55 and have shot alot of OLD AMMO!!!!
I enjoyed the art commentary! I'm crazy about art deco. Would definitely love to see the "Vintage Flux Capacitor Projectiles" tested!
I really enjoy these old ammunition videos. I don't know why. Maybe the nostalgia as I remember all these old boxes of ammunition my dad and granddad had around when I was a kid.
I wish I had more old boxes of these to research and show off!
It would be great to see these self-contained ballistic-projectiles tested through the use of a vintage hand-held self-contained ballistic-projectile testing apparatus. ;-)
Love this one😁👍
Hopefully he has the old flux capacitor charged and ready to go
What year is this,,, 1984?
@Spicy Meatball what makes you think that we aren't already there.
Oh, you mean they should shoot these from a slingshot?
88 years old and still looking good! Would love to see a test between this ammo and current products on similar targets.
Bet they'd be accurate
I'm not sure you can even buy 22L (not 22LR) anymore, and I don't think you can shoot it through a modern 22 rifle.
@FireEscape exactly
CCI still makes them.
They even make .22 CB rounds.
5:12 Yes, lead oxidizes. Lead oxide is bright white; that’s why it was used as a base for paint for so long. Now, titanium dioxide is used.
My grandfather still has an original Sears Roebuck catalog that has a true Thompson SMG listed for $139... I love this old stuff!
@Man Plan I like to see the reproduction stuff but they can't reproduce that original nostalgic smell & the texture of that super thick almost parchment like feeling paper. Something about it brings me back to my childhood & memories of gunsmithing books in my grandfather's loading room. Slightly warms the ice surrounding my heart...
there are not many original catalogs left. I suspect they mostly ended up nailed to the wall of the outhouses, at least until after the depression. I remember my grandparents outhouse had several corners from old catalogs still up on the wall.
Damn imagine if he had gotten two you could sell one now for a hefty price and practically quadruple the money after inflation
@Man Plan they still knew how to make quality stuff in the 60s so I don't doubt that.
@@BitchyBoxxy my grandfather was a simple man who cared more about people than money. I watched him (in the 80s) sell a 57 Chevy bel air 4door to a friend who needed a car, he asked "what you got in your pocket" & the guy said $92, my grandfather said "it's yours for 90 if you want it" imagine if more people were like that today....
Made by people who valued having a job.
And sometimes two jobs, like today!
Are you claiming that people don't value their jobs now? What sort of evidence do you have to support your claim? I know many people who value their job and the income it provides for them.
@Henryk Gödel Thank you. That is exactly what I mean.
I maintain bridges for a living, so I get a good, close-up look at them. I've got WPA bridges as old as this ammunition that look better than others only 20 years old. The level of workmanship is clearly better, even to the inexperienced eye. It's a real shame that they're obsolete - not because they're in poor condition, but because the design standards of that day mean they're too narrow and don't have enough load-carrying capacity.
This is funny, considering I just quit Sears today.
We all love the extra research you all do.
Massive loves from the UK.
And U.S.A. good info period!👍
Lets see Danny firing these outta his old revolver!
I second that!
Me turd
Take a look at the fine the grain structure of the brass even. Things were made a little differently in the past. Too bad we've lost sight of the idea of, screw the package, make sure the product is the best we can do.
I just pretended to call Danny and I asked him if you could make a video with this ammo, he said anything the viewers want is fine by him! He only asks that you save him a few.
Thanks for another great video!
Steve Reynolds
Truth 👍🏻. 🇺🇸😎
@@dannyakatrikerred7381 This is what makes you guys the Best! Thanks for all the videos, and thanks for not giving up on this UA-cam thing! We need more creators like you guys!
I kinda get the feeling that this was decided before the video come out. 😉
Dan The Man...... stand up guy !
Would love to see Danny's old revolver. If hes willing to shoot it, id love to see that too. .22 operates at such low pressure, he has more chance of breaking a firing pin than anything else.
@CLureCo .22LR has a chamber pressure of roughly 3,500 PSI. Very low compared to 35,000 for a 9x19mm, or even 12,000 for a q2 gauge shotgun.
Some people are afraid to shoot old guns for fear of blowing them up. I see no reasonable way to blow up a .22. Even a barrel obstruction won't do anything except bulge the barrel.
@CLureCo cite your source, please. If I'm wrong, id like to be proven wrong and move forward. People like you just saying "nope" don't help anyone or any cause. Until you cite a source, I can rebut your "nope"s with "yeah-huh".
That’s to cool seeing another blast from the past. I would of never thought there was a site dedicated to old 22 ammunition. 😁Always fun! Thanks.
There are collectors who specialise in just that. Heck I know someone who collects drain covers and photographs of them!
Stigstigster Ha!!! I try not to judge.
The "Sta-Kleen" was a copyrighted name on the same order as "Glenfield". The "Xtra Range" was an attention getter. And yes, it was a wax. Not sure about the "rifle only" warning. There were a number of rounds that were essentially +P+ being made for cartridges such as the 32/20, and the 38 Special, etc, which were marked "rifles only", or in the case of the 38 "for 38/44 revolvers only". This was a legitimate warning label at the time, especially the 38/44 because it was the precursor to the 357 magnum. Small frame 38's couldn't handle it. Long way to say I think this was just a precaution at the time because of the smokeless powder and the slightly increased pressures. Plus, I've seen a number of the Smith no. 1 revolvers with bulged cylinders and I can only think that it was the result of using smokeless 22 cartridges in those black powder 22's.
I will say that you surprised me with the cosmoline coated bullets. Have never seen or heard of that before. Thanks for showing them.
For rifle only, it is because when these were exported, tariffs were for pistol ammo only.
@@taofledermaus - Ahhhh.!!!
These throwback ammunition videos are great. It puts your mindset in a completely different perspective of how life used to be. Thanks for the content!
Awesome vid Jeff, and yeah i'd like to see a few of them fiy, but their historic and maybe worth something, Danny should keep them as a collectors item. I really do enjoy this sort of content, history is great. Thanks for the research and work you put into these videos Jeff, i appreciate it. Cheers from Oz.
Yeah we would like to see Danny shoot some of these. Who wouldn't? The dude is a legend
Putting a word in for the demonstration of these bullets by Danny using his old revolver. Seeing vintage firearms in action is good entertainment! Thanks!
Oh for the days when you could walk into Sears and buy a gun. My first firearm (a single-shot .410) was bought out of the Sears catalog for about 20 bucks. This would have been in the late '60s.
In the mid 50s Sears used to sell Thompson Machine Guns,,, about $200
@@willybee3056 Nice, but $200 in the '50s is not the same as $200. I don't know what the inflation rate is like but I'd wager that $200 back then was closer to $2,000 now in terms of today's money. While prices were much lower back then so were wages so actual buying power may not have been much better than it is today.
@@Riceball01
You are absolutely right.
The price of gold does not go up,, the price of money goes down.
Back in the 60s I bought a Browning semi auto 22 for $86 ... That was about 85% of my take home wage. In 2012 that same rifle was still 85 % of my take home wage.
The problem is in the 60s I was making about $2.50 per hr.
And in 2012, I was making $20 more than that...
What is really bad,, in both cases, 0 is still 0...
Money is a tool of enslavement. ...
@@Riceball01 buying power has actually changed drastically, simply looking around a household at what is considered normal will show that. Wasn't all that long ago that having a fridge was a luxury for the rich, even the "tiny" efficiency apartments are large living quarters compared to the one room living accommodations our ancestors called home.
@@jaydunbar7538 I never said that buying power hasn't changed, that was someone else. I was just saying that $20 50 - 60 years isn't the same as $20 now. $20 for a given item would be relatively cheap today but back during the '50s & '60s that $20 represented a much larger portion of one's annual/monthly income and thus was not as cheap as it would be considered to be today.
Of course, not everything has gone up in value/price over the years and some things have remained more or less the same. Electronics, for one thing, have definitely gotten cheaper over the decades. Home computers used to be considered a luxury that few could afford but now a days, all but the poorest of households can afford a PC and they get more and more powerful every year while not getting much more expensive.
Wow, those are in great condition despite how old they are! Great video Jeff ✔
Go for it Danny, unless you are emotionally attached to the ammunition of course. I don’t really know how this can be the case but of course it may be and in that case don’t give in to any pressure, you don’t owe us we owe you.
I wasn't anticipating a critique of the graphic design. Thanks for helping your audience to appreciate it.
Videos like this are the reason why I have subscribed. Good job and a nice bit of time travelling. Thumbs up and greetings from Germany.
thank you!!
Craftsman bullets, life time warrantied .
Original Craftsman, not that shit they sell at Lowes
I'm enjoying these old ammo videos. I like anything that seems like it was kept in a time capsule 💊. I don't mind you having to split them into two videos. It's a shame they demonitize anything 2A related. It's almost like they are attacking two amendments simultaneously. Both the first and second. Keep up the good work!
Excellent observation Alex!
Don't you just love it, Jeff giving us a look at historic products, in a safe and well thought out manner. All the time being careful not to use trigger words or encourage restricted actions, such as purchasing such items.
Then after this safe, careful and thoughtful video what do I get, an ad for a video game, about going around, shooting and blowing up people and things, in a carefree manner.
I'll loan you my 1899 stamped winchester 1902 so you can shoot these old bullets out of a pre serial number required antique firearm. Yup it still works and I shoot it all the time.
We appreciate your grumpiness😆
Cool video. Funny how their ideas ended up being better at preserving the ammo than actually preserving a barrel.
I don't know if you have all your monetized vids on one playlist, but if there were such a playlist, I would gladly sit down once a day and watch said list. Love all you do for us!!
Not really. It just seems YT will demonetize videos if they start getting sizable views, like they really don't like it when I get lucky.
I would love to see more of these old ammo vids. If you can please keep them coming
Wow, the shots of you handling the box made me think I was watching forgotten weapons for a moment
I'm sorry.
WE ABSOLUTELY WANT TO SEE THESE AWESOME PIECES OF GREAT AMERICAN HISTORY FIRED. THANKS FOR THE HISTORY LESSON JEFF. I LOVE WATCHING THESE WHEN YOU POST THEM!!!!
Lead doesn't oxidize under water however bare lead definately oxidizes when it sits out for a while in the air as it turns white like ur 25yo bullets.
evey metal will oxidize over time some just take very long time to do..
"pinching pennies and salvage anything that they could" Should be done nowadays.
I'd be cool to watch a test of a couple of them, but at this point the full box is a collector's item . Valuable stuff.
I love my old sears and roebuck
.22 swizzle stick.
I wouldn't mind seeing you guys shoot some of that ammo, but understand if Danny says No.
Yes Jeff, if Danny doesn't mind parting with some of those rounds and pulls out the ole 22 revolver. I wouldn't mind seeing if they perform like the .22 rounds in the last vid simular to this.
A lovely record of history and very informative. Thank you for the video 👍🏻
Most people were 'dirt poor' in those due to the Great Depression.
So a box of ammo was not wasted! Some ammo back in those days was sold per bullet! People had a revolver they actually bought 6 rounds at a time!
Great video!
Best to ya',,,,!
Thank you for taking the leap to review this historic ammo.
Very interesting - and very impressive how this ammo survived.
Also the previous ammo test that showed it's still functioning - that is VERY impressive - a very stable propellant, very stable primer and a good production protocol had to be used to make it not only last - but function as well after so long.
I have seen bullets forgotten on the sea shore as a kid (one here, one there) and they were eaten completely - just a miserable, weather worn stub remained...
Awesome time capsule. Love the Art deco design. Nice one Jeff!
Very cool 👍🏻🔥🤘🏻 love to see a few of those rounds go down range but understand if Danny doesn’t want to.
That’s freaking cool. I had some ammo from the 1960’s and 70’s and it worked fine
I remember about 10 years ago me and my friend found a real old box of 38 special rounds in his stepfather’s garage. His stepfather had recently passed away and we were clearing out a bunch of stuff. The Uncle claimed that they were rounds reloaded in the 40s or 50s. When we shot them out of his old Smith and Wesson model 10, they made the barrel noticeably dirty and there was a lot of smoke. It was noticeably more smoke than another box of 38 special that we had purchased.
Most of my .22 ammo is from the 60's and 70's... Still shoots great
All metals oxidize in certain conditions. Some easier than others of course.
We all know Iron will rust if you so much as look at it.
But even gold can oxidize with the right chemistry.
Thanks for the Video.... Thank you for the information on the boxes...easy to find when you know what to look for..
It would definitely be cool to see Danny shoot a few of these out of his grandfather's pistol! As a side note, a site dedicated to antique .22 ammo boxes! Never ceases to amaze me what will interest people!
Yeah, I was really surprised to find that website.
That was lotta good information about the Old 22 bullets, thank you for sharing this video with us
Well, I vote to test a few with danny's blessing of course. His revolver would be a plus.
Would definitely enjoy seeing those antiques fly.
GREAT unboxing! history AND art analysis ! loved this!
thanks
I think that I would have to fire at least a few of those...... you know..... for science ! 😊
Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍
plus they taste like bacon...mmnnnnnn
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Well that just makes it a HAVE TO DO then ! 😊
I really enjoyed this video, if it remains monetized and you enjoy making these type of informative videos I would certainly be interested in watching them!
Thanks! Not sure if I can find other old boxes or not.
I love old ammo videos .I love old guns.ilovevold stuff in general . please do more .if u want to.
The bullets aged better than Sears, Roebuck did. They are .22 Long...not Long Rifle cartridges...with a 29 gr. bullet. Very unusual today. We usually see .22 Short or .22 LR now. I am not sure if anyone even makes .22 Longs anymore. Lead absolutely does oxodize.
Antique rounds fired through an antique weapon,,,
Priceless😉😎👍
All TFM videos are informative & interesting, this one also illustrates both artistic elements & historical context . What's Not to Like? .
Thanks To Danny for putting them in to spotlight & Jeff for the seamless & stimulating commentary , & thanks in advance to Danny for allowing a few of them to be tested scientifically through a chronograph & expertly filmed for Our Education , if they were propelled at high velocity into various suitable mediums I suspect their effects might replicate (on a small scale) meteor impacts on the moon or even on Earth itself . We will just have to wait and see if this is possible . Thanks again TFM & Crew for all the knowledge You have imparted over the years to all us lucky TFM viewers .
@taofledermaus I have some old Winchester "silver" .357mag hollopoints that I believe are from the 70's that claim to have a "silver" jacket, they're super light for caliber but chrono'd out just under 1800fps through a short barrel ranchhand. Would you like some to test?
Hello guys first time commenter long time fan. I have a few boxes of these and other old 22 rim fire exceletators. Going to try and post and pic of just one type but I have the most of them. I bought a bunch of old ammo at and auction few years ago. I have or had 2 bricks of these and they are amazingly accurate out of and half broken marlin bolt action I gave 35 bucks for. Functions fine but will not hold and magizine. But can be single loaded and is one of my favorite squirrel rifles. Love all of these old boxes and I buy any and all of it I find. Keep on keeping on.
Ok no pic at the moment but there Peter's restless
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22lr no.2224
I've done some research and just the box I believe is quite collectable.
The sears ammo printed and 1in 10 shoot group at 25 yards out of that same ragged marlin.....
If I can figure out the details of shipping ammo I might round up and care package.
O.G. JEFF AND DANNY you guys are great. I use that same sight to find my boxes. Totalling about 10 or 12 old 22 ammo.
I’d love to see a few fired, I’m certain they’ll fire but I wonder if the velocity will be diminished.
Did you see his recent video on the clean bore ammo?
@Chen Lee he did shoot the clean bore ammo in a previous video
Fantastic video. I really enjoy these types of videos and I want to thank you for sharing this. *:-)*
thanks!
That warning label can be described by only one word: classic.
Dannys grandpas revolver would be great to see. Weather he lets go a few of those old 22 rounds or not. Its just good to see older handed down guns that go from generation to generation in the same family
All praise bees!!! You know... Wax... bees... bees make wax, wax preserve things... All because of bees.
Amazingly well preserved ammo! Hope we get to see you shoot some!
My grandpa collects old carnival and gallery slide action 22s.. some kids probably ate up tons of that ol Sears ammo with those, I'm sure..
I'd like just to see Danny's old revolver, regardless of shooting that old ammo.
Could tell him it just wouldn't look right on the shelf without an empty case or 2 with it, ya know..
That's so cool, just think about it.. How many boxes of ammo there are setting back somewhere in old dresser drawer or something like that. My dad has several different calibers of ammo from his grandfather, some with very interesting back stories... Thank you Danny for sharing that.
I would like to see some of this ammo test fired. Danny is a sweetheart so I’m sure he will say yes.
I absolutely LOVE Art Deco. I try and include parts of it in anything i make
Cripes, those cartridges look better than some of the stuff you get at the store new. The bullets look like they could have been swaged yesterday. Really fascinating seeing those still around after so many years. Back in those days, .22 rimfire guns were as ubiquitous as a pocket knife. A box of .22 would have been lucky to make it a week without being cracked open, much less 80 plus years. Very cool video though, thanks for sharing. If Danny decides to keep them intact, I can't say I'd blame him. That said, would be interesting to see if they are as consistent as the stuff from the last box of old stuff. I was amazed at how little the shot to shot deviation was on those things.
Sears was one of my favorite stores. They had great tools and they were the go to place for appliances for US military people. There was a Sears any where you were stationed and they would take care of your Kenmore appliances. Sad that they are slowly going out of business. I wonder when they stopped selling firearms and ammo?
Yes Danny shoot them! i love shooting old ammo and see how it performs. I had a similar situation with a old box of cardboard shotshells from the 40's. They worked just as good as the day they were made.
Would love to see if they will cycle a semi auto.
If Danny wants to keep them and giggle, that’s up to him.
I know the CCI Longs won't cycle well in a 10/22.
Very cool pieces of history!
A couple of weeks ago, I shot a handful of ancient 22 longs. They shot about the same POA at bout 20 yards as Winchesters out of a revolver.
Danny, sell this little box of ammo to a rich collector for ten grands and go on vacation. You'd be still able to buy a lot of 22s for the money left over after paying for the trip and all the whiskey.
It would be really rad if you could show Danny shooting his Grandpa's pistol.
Awesome!! Can't wait to see these shoot...
Very awesome, those rounds are incredibly preserved😱
@0:41 WoW Geoff that Ammo is almost as old as you!
I can't wait to see you guys post how they function. And what knucklehead disliked this???
They mustve hit it by mistake, or be too impatient to wait for a video of danny firing them
How many old boxes of ammo are in garages , kitchens cabinets, bedrooms and basments all over this country,
Fire a few off!! I would love to see it.
Waking up to this. Hell yeah.
Love it Jeff. Make em pay you for something.
This reminds be of the time when my friend inherited a rifle from his great uncle, and wondered why his CCIs wouldn't properly load into it, and then tried .22 short. Took me a few minutes to explain to him and his cousins that, despite .22 LR being called .22 Long all the time, there was an actual caliber called .22 Long, that was actually it's own entire round lol
Yeah, it's an oddball. They won't cycle the bolt of a 10/22, but will sort of feed.
I have a J.C. Higgins Model 36 Auto from Sears, love it!
I love it! Keep it up man!!!
Very cool video presentation, Sir!
Who knew there was (is?) an organization that is dedicated to the task of documenting old .22 caliber ammo?
I surely wasn't but am now!
And here I thought some of the "old" ammo I have was unique in its own right. Not so much any more!
Thanks again and, hopefully, Danny will allow you to fire off at least 6 rounds or so just to check the viability of some of these rounds.
Talk about a Blast from the Past, huh?
Take Care and.....
Overnout
thanks!
+1 for firing 88 year old ammo!
Welcome to this episode of Art History with Taofledermaus. 😁😁😁
We now know why he didn't major in art ! 😊
Love to see a few modern long rifle and a few of these broken down into components and compared by weight and powder design. Of course ballistic speeds also needs compared.
you guys are great... keep making videos!!!
Tell Danny, Do it, just do it! 🙏🏼 I thank they will all fire
most old 22 cal. rounds from shorts, longs or long rifle are still good enough to use today if they have been kept dry. Always clean your gun after firing any cartridge.
Yes, make the VIDEO-!-
I think with the warning they were intended to tell the consumer to only use it with a 22 rifle. The rifle was important because the barrels were a little bit thicker. They also packed in extra gunpowder for the extra range. So if you had a short barrel for an older gun it was a greater chance of explosions.
Bruce from the .22 box site told me today that they said that just because when these were exported, there was a tariff on pistol ammo but not rifle ammo.