Love the step back and discussion for a broader audience. As someone who’s owned a lot of shoes and boots, thinking about shoes in the mid 5s as a starting point is nothing new, and I’ve sometimes struggled to come up with a widely available alternative for less money as a next step after the intro phase. It’s gotten even harder the last couple of years as prices have gone up across the board. Well done.
I'm with Carl on this one. The series has been great and very well done. Teik, thanks for what you put into this channel. The time, energy and research is appreciated.
Have been really enjoying this series Teik! Especially this episode. Part of what really makes your channel stand out is all of the back story info you talk about for the different boot companies and their models. Carry on!
Remember, Teik is going to cast a mind control spell on you that makes you buy multiple expensive boots. I imagine after a few years, we're going to have a bunch of people running around as many boots as episodes that Teik puts out. They'll point at each other and go "NOT YOU TOO!"
Great series sir. I’m glad to see your Fultons are holding up well. Unfortunately I had to send my pair back due to sole separation. I am very grateful for White’s customer service department, they were excellent.
If I may, I’d like to make a couple of other suggestions: Frank’s Patriots, Drew’s Logger, and JK 300s. The only ones I own are the Frank’s Patriot, but they are 99% of a $550-$600 PNW logger. In other words, 7-8 oz Seidel uppers, Vibram V100 sole, insane amounts of veg tan in the sole, stitch down with clinch nails, etc. Many have theorized that Frank is selling them as a loss leader to gain goodwill with an expanded customer base. The Drew’s have been touted as 100% a PNW logger, but made in Leon, Mexico. I almost bought the Drew’s, but they were MTO and the Patriots were in stock, so my impatience made the decision for me. JK 300s are a slight compromise boot. Still very durable, as I have heard, but not as much leather in the sole and slightly thinner uppers (5-6oz if I’m not mistaken). This may not be a bad thing if you don’t need the absolute pinnacle of durability, as these should be much easier to break in. They have wedge sole (the 300) and V100 sole (the 300 X) options, which is nice. JK seems to be a rising star in popularity, but Frank’s and Drew’s don’t seem to get the same publicity as White’s and Nicks so I like to highlight them too. Any of them make great boots, I would say pick the one that speaks to you and go with it.
Teik, you should definitely check out Drew’s Boots, the ones made in Leon Mexico are in that mid-$300 price range. And those definitely have the look and seem built like PNW boots.
Grant Stones are now a $400 boot, not mid $350's, have not been there for a while now. A few weeks ago they went from $380 to $395 usd and their leather laces are so bad now, just soft sponge like leather. I still pick them for dressy casual, but for the money I am getting more from my Trumans now. Crazy leather thickness and builds.
I've been eyeing GS for a while, especially that Diesel in dune but yes, definitely on the dressier side (which is fine). I'm waiting for those in brown double shot cap toe but not in stock.
This is a bothersome post while sharing things that are factually incorrect. That exact boot is $360 new on Grant Stone site, regularly and always in stock. The similar Field Boot in waxy commander/earth is on sale for $290 as well. Meanwhile all Truman’s are $480+ and he continues to post the majority of limited rotations over $500. I love both brand and they hardly compete, but your comments sticks out for seeming particularly unreasoned.
Your contents is satisfying to watch as always sir. I'm still waiting for my first Indonesian handcrafted boots from Akar NFYR, I buy Kakara plain round toe crazy horse leather boots with veldtschoen construction from AkarNFYR, because they makes their boots design looks unique and at 1.990k IDR or around $175 US price range , I hope it's worth as the reviews from the other customers
Hi mr Teik. I saw you unboxed and reviewed the Jim Green african ranger. Can you please unbox, try, and review the Barefoot African Ranger? Comparing it to the normal ranger? I think you'd be impressed because of the lack of toe stiffener and I would like to see your thoughts sometime soon
I am not a friend of baby steps and my 3rd pair of boots after a used pair of Allen edmonds and a pair of wolverine 1000 mile went straight for JKs. I really like those fortis boots, but I don't do Instagram
@@BootlosophyThey‘re $379 Looks like a lot of the PNW Brands are trying to get into the sub $400 category. Whites Perry/Fulton, JK300, Franks Patriot, Drews Logger… Might be another interesting video
I am and I’m not. I’m a bit of a traditionalist and if they make a machine stitched stitchdown MP, maybe it should be called something else and look a bit different?
My cynical side says that no profession needs extremely heavy, overly complicated PNW work boots. The last time I saw any forestry workers in Scotland (come to think of it, EVERY time ) they seem to wear generic black steel toe cap boots, probably issued by their company. Construction workers are the same and also there was a recent trend for them to wear pull on engineer boots, usually covered in mud and cement. Anyway, maybe American workers are doing more rugged things and we wouldn't have any of these boots if it wasn't for them. Thanks for your reviews.
Here in Australia, miners wear light weight, goretex and fabric steel toe, cement construction boots! Our builders wear Blundstones, steel or soft toe, depending on trade.
@@Bootlosophy Yes, a quick search through the workwear companies suggests the synthetic, lightweight boots with steel toe, sometimes protective padding and relevant safety sole (oil anti-slip, acid resistance, electrical safety, heat resistant etc ) are now what are on offer. Usually black. Your Chelsea work boots are very Australian though. I have to admit until a couple of years ago I had never heard of Blundstones and was only vaguely aware of RM Williams and it is only recently that I have seen anybody wear chelsea boots in the street in Scotland as they have gained popularity recently. Still mainly worn by women but you see the occasional pair worn by men if you go to the smarter areas (definitely not working class footwear here).
The issue with China is not second rate products, it's rewarding sweatshop labor and a low standard of living with our dollar. I use my dollar as a voting ballot to reward ethical treatment as best I can because that's how I want to be treated.
I see. But I think the days of sweat shop labour in “high end” industries in China are over because the regime is losing its war against inflation and sweat shop rates have moved to places like Burma. Many electronic and boot factories in China are now privately owned by Taiwanese families. Also many handmade boot makers (not GS) are one man bands working on their own.
@Bootlosophy I do hope you're right. I saw a documentary that was recent about sweatshop workers in China where a mother and daughter lived in a steel cage cubicle with a bed and TV. That was where the mother had to leave her child while she worked 12 or more hours a day. So I'm on the side of guilty until proven innocent when it comes to any country that has garnered a reputation against its own people.
I loved this series, my friend. Very well done!
Thank you, Carl.
Love the step back and discussion for a broader audience. As someone who’s owned a lot of shoes and boots, thinking about shoes in the mid 5s as a starting point is nothing new, and I’ve sometimes struggled to come up with a widely available alternative for less money as a next step after the intro phase. It’s gotten even harder the last couple of years as prices have gone up across the board. Well done.
I'm with Carl on this one. The series has been great and very well done. Teik, thanks for what you put into this channel. The time, energy and research is appreciated.
Man thank you for all you do!!! Your insights are invaluable
Have been really enjoying this series Teik! Especially this episode. Part of what really makes your channel stand out is all of the back story info you talk about for the different boot companies and their models. Carry on!
Remember, Teik is going to cast a mind control spell on you that makes you buy multiple expensive boots. I imagine after a few years, we're going to have a bunch of people running around as many boots as episodes that Teik puts out. They'll point at each other and go "NOT YOU TOO!"
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Great series, keep them coming!
Great series sir. I’m glad to see your Fultons are holding up well. Unfortunately I had to send my pair back due to sole separation. I am very grateful for White’s customer service department, they were excellent.
Thank you for doing this series, it's phenomenal. Im always happy to attend another Teik Talk!!
If I may, I’d like to make a couple of other suggestions: Frank’s Patriots, Drew’s Logger, and JK 300s.
The only ones I own are the Frank’s Patriot, but they are 99% of a $550-$600 PNW logger. In other words, 7-8 oz Seidel uppers, Vibram V100 sole, insane amounts of veg tan in the sole, stitch down with clinch nails, etc. Many have theorized that Frank is selling them as a loss leader to gain goodwill with an expanded customer base.
The Drew’s have been touted as 100% a PNW logger, but made in Leon, Mexico. I almost bought the Drew’s, but they were MTO and the Patriots were in stock, so my impatience made the decision for me.
JK 300s are a slight compromise boot. Still very durable, as I have heard, but not as much leather in the sole and slightly thinner uppers (5-6oz if I’m not mistaken). This may not be a bad thing if you don’t need the absolute pinnacle of durability, as these should be much easier to break in. They have wedge sole (the 300) and V100 sole (the 300 X) options, which is nice.
JK seems to be a rising star in popularity, but Frank’s and Drew’s don’t seem to get the same publicity as White’s and Nicks so I like to highlight them too. Any of them make great boots, I would say pick the one that speaks to you and go with it.
Nice choices! Would the prices rank as next step after entry level?
@@Bootlosophy Yes, absolutely. Each of these boots are around the $350 USD price point.
@@BootlosophyWould love to see your view on a pair of Franks Patriot. For $350 they are very tempting…
Teik, you should definitely check out Drew’s Boots, the ones made in Leon Mexico are in that mid-$300 price range. And those definitely have the look and seem built like PNW boots.
Grant Stones are now a $400 boot, not mid $350's, have not been there for a while now. A few weeks ago they went from $380 to $395 usd and their leather laces are so bad now, just soft sponge like leather.
I still pick them for dressy casual, but for the money I am getting more from my Trumans now. Crazy leather thickness and builds.
I've been eyeing GS for a while, especially that Diesel in dune but yes, definitely on the dressier side (which is fine). I'm waiting for those in brown double shot cap toe but not in stock.
This is a bothersome post while sharing things that are factually incorrect.
That exact boot is $360 new on Grant Stone site, regularly and always in stock. The similar Field Boot in waxy commander/earth is on sale for $290 as well.
Meanwhile all Truman’s are $480+ and he continues to post the majority of limited rotations over $500.
I love both brand and they hardly compete, but your comments sticks out for seeming particularly unreasoned.
What a great series. Thanks for putting this out there!
Thoroughly enjoying this series! Your reviews lead me to purchasing a pair of GS Edwards in waxed suede. I love them so far. Thanks for your efforts!
Once again great video, thanks again!!
Cheers, beers and whiskey 🤠 🥃
I love the patina on the Fortis.
Great video. I’m learning a lot and have gone down the heritage boot rabbit hole.
Another great review, thank you Sir!!
Your contents is satisfying to watch as always sir. I'm still waiting for my first Indonesian handcrafted boots from Akar NFYR, I buy Kakara plain round toe crazy horse leather boots with veldtschoen construction from AkarNFYR, because they makes their boots design looks unique and at 1.990k IDR or around $175 US price range , I hope it's worth as the reviews from the other customers
Hi mr Teik. I saw you unboxed and reviewed the Jim Green african ranger. Can you please unbox, try, and review the Barefoot African Ranger? Comparing it to the normal ranger? I think you'd be impressed because of the lack of toe stiffener and I would like to see your thoughts sometime soon
another excellent entry. thanks!
I am not a friend of baby steps and my 3rd pair of boots after a used pair of Allen edmonds and a pair of wolverine 1000 mile went straight for JKs.
I really like those fortis boots, but I don't do Instagram
Excellent series!! Thanks!!!
Great series Tek.
Great series.
Just got a pair of JK 300 boots and am starting to break them in now. I would think they would fit this category. So far seem like great quality.
How much are they?
@@BootlosophyThey‘re $379
Looks like a lot of the PNW Brands are trying to get into the sub $400 category. Whites Perry/Fulton, JK300, Franks Patriot, Drews Logger… Might be another interesting video
You should checkout the Freenote White’s Lineman 👍
are you excited to try the new non-handwelted, 5050 last whites mp?
I am and I’m not. I’m a bit of a traditionalist and if they make a machine stitched stitchdown MP, maybe it should be called something else and look a bit different?
My cynical side says that no profession needs extremely heavy, overly complicated PNW work boots. The last time I saw any forestry workers in Scotland (come to think of it, EVERY time ) they seem to wear generic black steel toe cap boots, probably issued by their company. Construction workers are the same and also there was a recent trend for them to wear pull on engineer boots, usually covered in mud and cement.
Anyway, maybe American workers are doing more rugged things and we wouldn't have any of these boots if it wasn't for them.
Thanks for your reviews.
Here in Australia, miners wear light weight, goretex and fabric steel toe, cement construction boots! Our builders wear Blundstones, steel or soft toe, depending on trade.
@@Bootlosophy Yes, a quick search through the workwear companies suggests the synthetic, lightweight boots with steel toe, sometimes protective padding and relevant safety sole (oil anti-slip, acid resistance, electrical safety, heat resistant etc ) are now what are on offer. Usually black.
Your Chelsea work boots are very Australian though. I have to admit until a couple of years ago I had never heard of Blundstones and was only vaguely aware of RM Williams and it is only recently that I have seen anybody wear chelsea boots in the street in Scotland as they have gained popularity recently. Still mainly worn by women but you see the occasional pair worn by men if you go to the smarter areas (definitely not working class footwear here).
The issue with China is not second rate products, it's rewarding sweatshop labor and a low standard of living with our dollar. I use my dollar as a voting ballot to reward ethical treatment as best I can because that's how I want to be treated.
I see. But I think the days of sweat shop labour in “high end” industries in China are over because the regime is losing its war against inflation and sweat shop rates have moved to places like Burma. Many electronic and boot factories in China are now privately owned by Taiwanese families. Also many handmade boot makers (not GS) are one man bands working on their own.
@Bootlosophy I do hope you're right. I saw a documentary that was recent about sweatshop workers in China where a mother and daughter lived in a steel cage cubicle with a bed and TV. That was where the mother had to leave her child while she worked 12 or more hours a day. So I'm on the side of guilty until proven innocent when it comes to any country that has garnered a reputation against its own people.
hardly call Grant Stone a PMW tho.. more like a knock off indy