This was great! My PRE is MASSIVE compared to all our quarter horses, so it's nearly impossible to find western tack for her, and I'm having a really hard time. Can you reccomend a few tack sites that might have something for her?
@@cynthiacolumbus1094 Hey Cynthia! If you're wanting a horse that's cool with dogs I would specifically screen for that. I don't see that as a breed thing - more of a socialization and previous history sort of thing.
@@jaelhoward4621 Yay! So I got my saddle, pads and cinches from horsesaddleshop.com and they were great to work with. We're currently using a Myler bit - I contacted them directly to find out which one and then purchased through Toklat. Headstall and reins I had custom made through Jim Hosse Saddlery. I also have another one from Buckaroo Leather, I just sent in my specific measurements. eBay is another resource I've used too. Between blankets and tack my yellow sewing tape measure has been put to good use lol.
Once upon a time, my daughter and I jumped up double, bareback, on a Percheron and trotted around a field. We couldn't stop laughing because he felt just like a small trampoline...boing, boing! It was SUCH fun!
Just got my 1st horse. A draft Percheron. He’s 3. Has 12 or so rides on him. Had some hoof issues I needed to fix. Was 3000.00. He’s super sweet and so far has been pretty easy going. Cost 100 for the terrier. Full boarding for me is 500 a month in Colorado Springs. He is about 18 hands. His name is Onyx. 😊 I’ve had to get jumbo size tact for him so far. Got lucky finding a bridal that fit. Not as lucky with halters so far.
Great deal on that horse. Just remember that Draft breeds are not fully grown until they are 7, unlike saddle breeds. So be prepared to get new tack or buy very adjustable stuff. Also, please remember that he is a baby! give him at least two more years before demanding hard, joint stressing work. And have fun!
Thank you for an impressively informative video. In about 1975, at age 12, I was given a team of Percherons for hayrides and sleighrides at a demonstration farm of 300 acres or so in Michigan. (I'd been hired there at age 10 to lead pony rides, and never shut up about my desire for a team of draft horses of "my own.") I was by far the youngest of about eight or nine of us "teamsters," working with a stable of six or seven pairs of heavy horses. About half were Belgians and Percherons, with a couple of Clydesdales orphaned among them. We sourced all our tack from the Amish region of Pennsylvania. I did this for about seven years, until I graduated high school and left Michigan. Working with those horses is still high among the best work I've ever done. I loved those beasts. As my experience grew, I was given stronger and livelier teams. Nowadays, I'm in a "profession," often having to harness myself in a suit and tie. I'll never forget my years with those giant partners I loved so much.
I feel like something people should always keep in mind that an easily-spooked horse is an easily-spooked horse, no matter the height, width or intelligence of the breed they are associated with. A Shire could be just as dangerous as your typical warm-blooded breeds or your little ponies, meaning to say that if a horse is nervous you need to be careful regardless of their size, i have seen plenty of people being(in my eyes) rough with slimmer breeds or smaller ponies because they do not see the danger in those horses. I had one scenario where i was working with a smaller cold-blooded cross horse in a decent-sized Riding Arena inside and a lady came in asking if she and her 2 y/o Arabian, i told her 'sure, as long as you keep to that side' and they did. We had separated the arena by that same sort of ribbon(i am not sure what the name of it is, they use it to block off roads as well). The woman proceeded to be quite 'active' with her whip(which had a ribbon thingy at the top to make more sound). I had to focus really hard on the horse who was with me so that her focus would be only on me and not them which worked surprisingly well as i had already worked a lot with trust with this girl, but as soon as i went away to get something to drink she went bolting, running around in circles at her side of the arena, when i came back i saw it getting worse every time the woman used her whip thingy wildly so i quickly went to my girl and could(thank the gods) quickly calm her done and get her focus with me again, but her eyes were quite open. I quickly(but calmly) got her out of there and into the pasture where she could calm down(which she quickly did). That woman didn't know better, she wanted her Arabian to move and he did when she went swinging like a maniac, but it did cause the horse i was working with to get very nervous which she usually never really is. I think keeping this in mind is always helpful when going for a horse: no matter how calm they may seem, that could just be because they are in a safe environment. If i could not have brought that horse back from 'Help me this is very scary!' i would have a little bit of a problem because she is very strong. [Edit:] Sorry if some does not make sense, i am quite tired.
Thanks for sharing Alys! I can totally relate. Sometimes people aren't always aware how what they're doing with their horse can affect you and your horse. 🙄Environment does make a big impact!
@@Nordic_Mechanic I just meant to raise some awareness to the fact that a lot of horse buyers often do not know the history behind the horse they are buying due to the buyers being dishonest(i have seen this happen a lot). This happens to both warm and cold bloods, where they are fine one minute but as soon as you bring them home they are very stressed-out and their temperament appears to have changed(although this also sometimes happens due to the horses being drugged sadly).
@@SaneSally I lucked out because I find draft nicer, prettier . Just an added bonus they are more likely to be gentle and calm. I like the bulky strong look with wide shoulders. I like the thick legs and heavy feathers and the roman nose. Then my friend started raising them.... go figure, lucky me
Lady, you may be happier on horse, but honestly, I have NEVER seen horses so happy! They are beautiful! So full of joy, you can literally see it! Whatever you do, keep it up! Seems mutual!
Draft and fencing lol. That is absolutely true. If you can damage the fence with a car, the horse will damage it. And when they kick it (predator or argument) you're losing that fence. When my mare (Shire) kicked a fence the entire 60ft section moved, the section she kicked not only bent but all the tabs and 1/2 inch bolts sheared off and the adjacent sections ripped off. That's 1/8 inch thick tubing ! Oh and fence ended 12 ft further despite that. Took an afternoon to reweld all that together. That beind said. 6ft high instead of 5ft and they wont rest their neck or butt on the fence and smush it.
Thank you so much for sharing what you've learned and experienced with Fame. I just lost my Curly gelding of almost twenty years and his temperament was lovely. In shopping for my next horse I'm wanting a similar temperament and it was really helpful to have you acknowledge that some drafts are spooky, and that training and handling have so much to do with it. I'm new to the world of drafts, and am so appreciative of your videos and what you share.
I’m so sorry for your loss! A curly, wow how special! I hope you’re able to find that special new companion. Thank you for your kind words, I’m glad you’re enjoying the channel. 😃
Favor a horse in pasture or paddock with a more dominant horse around. Half the teaching of respect and space will have been done by the dominant and you start ahead even on a green horse. I feel horses alone in a paddock are a bit harder to train. We have a filly shire for sale and shes super sweet. Her mom and grandmother are VERY dominant and they taught her respect. Took about 5 minutes to put a halter on her and teach her to give to pressure and she followed us to the barn. We did her first trim on her hooves that day. Gorgeous grey eyed, 4 equal white legs filly growing fast. Dominant horses are good teachers :)
When i'm in the market to buy a horse (hopefully someday) I'm hoping for a 16-17h lighter draft/draft mix. The draw for me is the versitility, -want to pull a sled or skiijor in the winter? go ahead! -wagon ride through town? sure! -trail ride up the mountain? as long as we can squeeze through the trees and are fit enough, godspeed! -dressage, reining or WE? absolutely, won't step quite as fancy as those baroques and warmbloods but we sure can do it! -showjumping? Absolutely, but carefully! -academic and liberty? they usually L O V E it! -bareback? if the trot doesn't bounce you off it's amazing, lots of cushioning! as someone who gets bored of doing one thing too much, as long as you find an individual who wants to perform you can do quite a bit of everything, but the heavier types will have a more difficult time with things that require lots of airtime, or alternatively being both fast and endurant (it's usually one or the other, sometimes neither)
I’m looking for my 1st horse and even though I’m a larger rider I have always wanted a draft even though I ride saddle seat. I really hope to find one of these lovable horses when I end up getting my first horse
Good you mentioned foot care. Drafts can end up with some serious issues needing surgery. Having regular care, inspection and keeping off soggy grounds can keep them healthy and pain free. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Hopefully it can reduce impulsive buyers and kill buyers opportunity at auctions.
1:46 I'd like to add that it's not just about the muscles. Muscles accomodate quite quickly. It's the joints that need more time to get used to increased load.
Rescues like GentleGiantRescue also have drafts horses in desperate need of homes who are way cheaper to buy. Where I'm at in Missouri there's alot of Amish towns and they love to throw away their teams at auction if it's a minor injury, age or simply the season.
Wow, I LOVE your channel! I just found you....💖 We have two horses 1 Haflinger and 1 Quarterhorse . Our buckskin Quarter gelding is my husband‘s & Haflinger mare is mine. I’ve never had a draft horse before and she definitely is on the smaller side. She is just under 14 hands. I was so lucky to come across her in my life! Plus everything worked out beautifully for me to purchase this beautiful little mare. She has made my life so much brighter she is the friendliest sweetest girl💯 everyone at the stables loves to tell me how much they adore her... she’s so friendly and you can seriously put anyone on her as long (as they’re the right size of course) but even a child she is so gentle. But as you say always proceed with caution with any horse. Yes I know her and I feel completely safe with her. Plus she’s spooked a couple times with me due to other horses behind her spooking. She couldn’t see what was going on. I agree with you 100% you have to keep your wits about you around horses. You just never know. 💯🙏
Great conversation, thanks. You look like you're feeling well. One summer I herded cattle on a Shire, which was very different from my Quarter Horse, but it was fun. I was amazed at how fast she learned. Take care.
❤ #justloveshires ! Never asked any of these questions, not an owner but just love to see and know Shires. Lovely vid n crazy informative 🤘🏼 Cheers Luv! Yourkshire ❤
Great video, Stephanie! Lots of great information, but I have an obscure kind of question. Have you ever heard of people using draft horses to cut and drive beef cattle? I used Percheron in high-school to chase dairy cattle into the barn, but that is completely different than working beef cattle. Thanks for the great videos!
I have heard of draft/QH crosses being used for that kind of work. The big thing I think is agility and flexibility in following the cow’s movements - not something huge heavy horses are naturally great at, hence the cross. At least, that’s my take on it!
I also like draft horses very much and with your vidéos I finally decided to buy one. I looked at french breeds and fresians. Percherons are too stocky, at least most of them, clydsdales and shires are too rare in France, so I chose a "normand cob" , a filly 2.5 y old, about 16 hands. She’ s a cutie and now we learn nice safe ground manners... thank you for your nice vidéos !
I just looked up a Norman Cob. Wow! What an elegant horse! Congratulations!! So thrilled we could inspire you. I wish you many wonderful years with your gorgeous girl! ❤️🤗
Your horse is so gorgeous! i originally wanted a Drum horse but ended up with a big 16.2 APHA. Hes got more of an athletic type body which i think may be better off because i want to do jumping as well.
This is the channel I’ve been looking for! I’ve recently fallen in love with Belgian Draft horses and I’m trying to figure out if it’s just a phase 😅 it would be a 4th horse that I’ve owned although it’s been at least 8 years that I’d have one of my own.
My horse is a fresian-percheron cross, he's such a gentle giant! I sadly cannot trot him because he is a rescue and his hind legs are messed up. I'm hoping he can get better, if we do some work. I love him sm❤💖
Stephanie, that was a really well presented, informative run down. I love the chunky horses, not sure what made me look up videos about them today, but I found yours, now here I am with just a passing curiosity but I’ve just watched the whole video. You’re a natural in front of the camera. How long have you owned horses & how long had you been riding before you got your first?
Thanks! It’s been well over a decade since I bought my first horse. I took some lessons as a teen but basically went into ownership cold. I try to put into the channel what I wish I had had access to back then as a complete newbie with no support. 🤪
@@HappieronaHorse That’s awesome, most “horsey people” have been brought up with horses, so even tho they have a lot of knowledge to share, it feels like a club I could never really be a part of. Your videos are VERY newbie friendly & relatable, but yet also very informative. Kudos for getting that balance right. Merry Christmas from Australia 👍
I just hade weightloss surgery my goal is to ride again. My Icelandic horse passed away at 34 years but obviously she was with pension because of old age so I haven’t riden in years. Now I’m looking into a Percheron. Love the breed but never risen one before. I really love draft horses
I love those central California trail views😍….I was born and raised in the Bay Area and moved a couple years ago but boy did that area have the absolute best trail riding spots. I sure miss the view of the ocean from my horse.
I love drafts, for their look and abilities. I’m just starting to learn. I’ve started a relationship with three light horses in a neighboring stables and paddock. My approach is gentling and establishing the trust relationship first. For these horses I’m not even riding them I’m just loving on them and building trust. (do you ride them I would have to pay for lessons which I am saving my money right now)
You're not giving yourself enough credit. You have to learn their language and they have to learn yours. No other ways to do it. You can control through a leader role or what some call a heart bond. I thought that was bullshit until the gray(white shire) on my channel came into my life. She's happy to see me, she knows another horse in the paddock is downright dangerous with me and she'll protect me from her. I can call her and she'll come. If I need to move her, I point and she'll walk with me. She will ask for help when itchy and all sort of behaviors she wont do with the owners who spend a lot more time with her. Hired another fairier and coming in late the fairier was speechless when I came in and the horse immediatly behaved. "that's YOUR horse right?" So yes, that horse prooved me there is some sort of relationship and it will differ from person to person. Whatever that bond is, it's making everything I do with her 10 times easier. It's the weirdess thing i've felt with an animal. So keep visiting them, you may see signs but keep in mind your body language is louder than your words.
Feather mite are annoying but not hard to get rid off. We get them every year on Shires. The only problem with mites is the treatment turns their feathers yellow ☹
I’m riding a 16.2 mustang. (from a herd in oregon with strong draft influence) My main struggle is mounting. I am 5’4 and the stirrup is above my belly button. She’s a saint though. We can basically do anything together. However, I’m ready to get my personal horse back, who is only 14.3. Fits me a little better.
What’s actually shocking about this is that you have to buy a trailer. I live in Poland and have my horse for 18 years now - it’s not necessary really to have your own trailer here. It’s so easy to rent one, even with an experienced driver.
Sometimes auctions will have drafts for lower prices under 10,000-5,000 depending on the factors she said. So not all horses will be expensive from the jump.
That's a good video. I have a 12 hand draught, she's fab. Prices in England have doubled since lockdown but it might be worth you lot considering importing... £3k still gets you a lot of horse in UK... Just look at the cobs bred in Ireland... There's a pic on fb somewhere of a well fit bloke in a kilt riding a drum horse on the beach, carrying a Saltaire flag
I'm not interested in owning a horse at all for the time being, but my girlfriend and I do go weekly to a relatives place to clean stalls and do general maintenance on a horse, two ponies, and a donkey. I'm 100% looking to interact more with horses like Belgians, Percherons, and Clydesdales. Just a matter of networking, I guess.
See if there are any draft horse shows in your area or close enough to travel. Also check out the breed associations for those breeds and see what shows they have upcoming you might be able to attend. Good luck!
@@HappieronaHorse I attend the horse pulls at my state fair (Illinois) annually. I've become a familiar face to one of the families there, but they live so far away that it isn't realistic to be any more than an admirer to them when I go to the pulls. I tried to look for other pullers closer this year while I was there, but it's worth asking the family I'm already established with. Not interested in the pretty draft horses, but in the working ones. Thanks for your reply!
Meh, or you could just do what I do. Save one from being put down. Mine is called Gail and he has narcolepsy. Very rare and very funny! He resides with my mentally handicapped Highland steer Dail.
I do want to point out the 20% rule is not out of date currently in 2022 it has been proven by medical licensed veterans that it is VERY important to pay attention to ur weight on the horse you are riding
I am a heavy person and because of my weight I would never consider torchering an animal by riding, I would rather use buckboard have 2 horses pull me. those poor animals i feel bad regardless of weight of a person .
Right now we ride in a Circle Y Drover trail. I like Billy Cook also. Depends on what you’re using it for. I tend to like high cantles and swells and no padding (common with ranch style saddles), but some people prefer the opposite lol. I also like minimal skirting to reduce weight.
@@HappieronaHorse thank you, I’m new to riding western (have always ridden English) and I’ll be in the market for a good all purpose use western saddle soon so I’m up for suggestions! I’m interested in one good for lessons and trail riding/pleasure 😊
Percherons seam to be very common and more affordable than other breeds in my area in the Midwest. Most of them are amish horses or loaned to amish people if the horse is over 5 years old. We are not experienced horse owners or riders but we want to be. Would getting a horse used by the amish be bad? I've heard that they are very well trained, but also more often than not are abused and could have some behavioral issues due to that.. what do you guys think?
I’ve heard both extremes when it comes to Amish trained horses. I have no personal experience to vouch either way though. I would be asking around in my community for more info - other trainers, vets, horsemen’s associations, breed clubs, etc.
I am a disabled lady who can't mount a horse as every one else does, can the horse be trained to kneel, also I want to go back to the simple Way of life both in regards to working on a farm, as well as using wagons and carriages (like the Amish) Thank you for your time, Respectfully yours, Donna Lane Kingman Az USA
I am an adult rider who has been riding for years now and I am looking to eventually get a horse of my own. I want to look into getting a draft horse for myself to make sure I maintain the 20% rule with myself and riding tack (I am a midsized rider and trying to get back into shape, and I am only 5'4). I have never owned a horse before and wanted to know if getting a draft horse or a smaller breed draft (gypsy vanner, etc) as a first horse would be okay?
Could be a great choice! All depends on the individual horse IMO. Chances are you’ll be fine as far as weight goes. I would focus first on a horse with training and experience that will be safe and fun for you, and work ok your balance and rein mgmt with some lessons. Good luck!
Our vet said that larger horses don’t live as long as smaller horses. It is like dog life spans are shorter in large dogs. My sister’s Arab lived 35 years. Her other Arab live 30 years. Is this common for draft horses?
I'm a balanced rider and I'm an intermediate rider and to be honest I was taught at 2 years old and for my first-time buying situation I'm a heavy set rider all due to being autistic and have cerebral palsy. Please understand that I am looking for a horse that can be gentle and "A" I'm adopting a horse "B" you don't shop for a horse you Adopt .it is all about how the horse makes you feel and how the horse feels about you. I know this because I was raise with knowledge about life and mind you that your prissy cowgirl act is annoying you got everything handed to you at a young age.
Found a jealous “victim” who had a “tough life” but yet knows they are a “balanced intermediate rider.” Every statement you made was oxymoronic. Especially the part where you wanted her to “understand” your needs while simultaneously insulting her for no reason. We all have tough lives and you don’t need to attempt to be the toxicity in others, they don’t deserve it and you won’t experience any benefit. Be Kinder, your genetics don’t prevent you from being decent to others.
I hope this was helpful! Do you have any other draft ownership questions?
This was great! My PRE is MASSIVE compared to all our quarter horses, so it's nearly impossible to find western tack for her, and I'm having a really hard time. Can you reccomend a few tack sites that might have something for her?
Are draft horses any more or less likely than lighter horses to get along with dogs?
@@cynthiacolumbus1094 Hey Cynthia! If you're wanting a horse that's cool with dogs I would specifically screen for that. I don't see that as a breed thing - more of a socialization and previous history sort of thing.
@@jaelhoward4621 Yay! So I got my saddle, pads and cinches from horsesaddleshop.com and they were great to work with. We're currently using a Myler bit - I contacted them directly to find out which one and then purchased through Toklat. Headstall and reins I had custom made through Jim Hosse Saddlery. I also have another one from Buckaroo Leather, I just sent in my specific measurements. eBay is another resource I've used too. Between blankets and tack my yellow sewing tape measure has been put to good use lol.
@@HappieronaHorse Awesome, thank you so much!
Once upon a time, my daughter and I jumped up double, bareback, on a Percheron and trotted around a field. We couldn't stop laughing because he felt just like a small trampoline...boing, boing! It was SUCH fun!
That sounds amazing. I love the trampoline comparison!
Amazing 🌈🌤💯💫
Just got my 1st horse. A draft Percheron. He’s 3. Has 12 or so rides on him. Had some hoof issues I needed to fix.
Was 3000.00. He’s super sweet and so far has been pretty easy going.
Cost 100 for the terrier.
Full boarding for me is 500 a month in Colorado Springs.
He is about 18 hands.
His name is Onyx. 😊
I’ve had to get jumbo size tact for him so far.
Got lucky finding a bridal that fit. Not as lucky with halters so far.
Great deal on that horse.
Just remember that Draft breeds are not fully grown until they are 7, unlike saddle breeds. So be prepared to get new tack or buy very adjustable stuff.
Also, please remember that he is a baby! give him at least two more years before demanding hard, joint stressing work.
And have fun!
Thank you for an impressively informative video.
In about 1975, at age 12, I was given a team of Percherons for hayrides and sleighrides at a demonstration farm of 300 acres or so in Michigan. (I'd been hired there at age 10 to lead pony rides, and never shut up about my desire for a team of draft horses of "my own.")
I was by far the youngest of about eight or nine of us "teamsters," working with a stable of six or seven pairs of heavy horses. About half were Belgians and Percherons, with a couple of Clydesdales orphaned among them. We sourced all our tack from the Amish region of Pennsylvania. I did this for about seven years, until I graduated high school and left Michigan.
Working with those horses is still high among the best work I've ever done. I loved those beasts. As my experience grew, I was given stronger and livelier teams.
Nowadays, I'm in a "profession," often having to harness myself in a suit and tie. I'll never forget my years with those giant partners I loved so much.
Thanks for sharing you story. Those beasts make a man level headed in no time.
I feel like something people should always keep in mind that an easily-spooked horse is an easily-spooked horse, no matter the height, width or intelligence of the breed they are associated with.
A Shire could be just as dangerous as your typical warm-blooded breeds or your little ponies, meaning to say that if a horse is nervous you need to be careful regardless of their size, i have seen plenty of people being(in my eyes) rough with slimmer breeds or smaller ponies because they do not see the danger in those horses.
I had one scenario where i was working with a smaller cold-blooded cross horse in a decent-sized Riding Arena inside and a lady came in asking if she and her 2 y/o Arabian, i told her 'sure, as long as you keep to that side' and they did.
We had separated the arena by that same sort of ribbon(i am not sure what the name of it is, they use it to block off roads as well).
The woman proceeded to be quite 'active' with her whip(which had a ribbon thingy at the top to make more sound).
I had to focus really hard on the horse who was with me so that her focus would be only on me and not them which worked surprisingly well as i had already worked a lot with trust with this girl, but as soon as i went away to get something to drink she went bolting, running around in circles at her side of the arena, when i came back i saw it getting worse every time the woman used her whip thingy wildly so i quickly went to my girl and could(thank the gods) quickly calm her done and get her focus with me again, but her eyes were quite open. I quickly(but calmly) got her out of there and into the pasture where she could calm down(which she quickly did).
That woman didn't know better, she wanted her Arabian to move and he did when she went swinging like a maniac, but it did cause the horse i was working with to get very nervous which she usually never really is.
I think keeping this in mind is always helpful when going for a horse: no matter how calm they may seem, that could just be because they are in a safe environment. If i could not have brought that horse back from 'Help me this is very scary!' i would have a little bit of a problem because she is very strong.
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Sorry if some does not make sense, i am quite tired.
Thanks for sharing Alys! I can totally relate. Sometimes people aren't always aware how what they're doing with their horse can affect you and your horse. 🙄Environment does make a big impact!
@@Nordic_Mechanic Agreed, this is why i generally do prefer coldbloods over warmbloods, they seem way more chilled-out.
@@Nordic_Mechanic I just meant to raise some awareness to the fact that a lot of horse buyers often do not know the history behind the horse they are buying due to the buyers being dishonest(i have seen this happen a lot).
This happens to both warm and cold bloods, where they are fine one minute but as soon as you bring them home they are very stressed-out and their temperament appears to have changed(although this also sometimes happens due to the horses being drugged sadly).
@@SaneSally or sellers medicate them when you go to meet them !
Horses are just like used cars. Buyers beware !
@@SaneSally I lucked out because I find draft nicer, prettier . Just an added bonus they are more likely to be gentle and calm. I like the bulky strong look with wide shoulders. I like the thick legs and heavy feathers and the roman nose. Then my friend started raising them.... go figure, lucky me
Never wanted fame or cared for it, but I'd take your Fame. He's a nice boy.
😂 well said. Thank you!
Lady, you may be happier on horse, but honestly, I have NEVER seen horses so happy! They are beautiful! So full of joy, you can literally see it! Whatever you do, keep it up! Seems mutual!
Thank you so much!
Draft and fencing lol. That is absolutely true. If you can damage the fence with a car, the horse will damage it. And when they kick it (predator or argument) you're losing that fence.
When my mare (Shire) kicked a fence the entire 60ft section moved, the section she kicked not only bent but all the tabs and 1/2 inch bolts sheared off and the adjacent sections ripped off. That's 1/8 inch thick tubing ! Oh and fence ended 12 ft further despite that. Took an afternoon to reweld all that together.
That beind said. 6ft high instead of 5ft and they wont rest their neck or butt on the fence and smush it.
Thank you so much for sharing what you've learned and experienced with Fame. I just lost my Curly gelding of almost twenty years and his temperament was lovely. In shopping for my next horse I'm wanting a similar temperament and it was really helpful to have you acknowledge that some drafts are spooky, and that training and handling have so much to do with it. I'm new to the world of drafts, and am so appreciative of your videos and what you share.
I’m so sorry for your loss! A curly, wow how special! I hope you’re able to find that special new companion. Thank you for your kind words, I’m glad you’re enjoying the channel. 😃
Favor a horse in pasture or paddock with a more dominant horse around. Half the teaching of respect and space will have been done by the dominant and you start ahead even on a green horse. I feel horses alone in a paddock are a bit harder to train. We have a filly shire for sale and shes super sweet. Her mom and grandmother are VERY dominant and they taught her respect. Took about 5 minutes to put a halter on her and teach her to give to pressure and she followed us to the barn. We did her first trim on her hooves that day. Gorgeous grey eyed, 4 equal white legs filly growing fast. Dominant horses are good teachers :)
When i'm in the market to buy a horse (hopefully someday) I'm hoping for a 16-17h lighter draft/draft mix.
The draw for me is the versitility,
-want to pull a sled or skiijor in the winter? go ahead!
-wagon ride through town? sure!
-trail ride up the mountain? as long as we can squeeze through the trees and are fit enough, godspeed!
-dressage, reining or WE? absolutely, won't step quite as fancy as those baroques and warmbloods but we sure can do it!
-showjumping? Absolutely, but carefully!
-academic and liberty? they usually L O V E it!
-bareback? if the trot doesn't bounce you off it's amazing, lots of cushioning!
as someone who gets bored of doing one thing too much, as long as you find an individual who wants to perform you can do quite a bit of everything, but the heavier types will have a more difficult time with things that require lots of airtime, or alternatively being both fast and endurant (it's usually one or the other, sometimes neither)
I’m looking for my 1st horse and even though I’m a larger rider I have always wanted a draft even though I ride saddle seat. I really hope to find one of these lovable horses when I end up getting my first horse
Good you mentioned foot care. Drafts can end up with some serious issues needing surgery. Having regular care, inspection and keeping off soggy grounds can keep them healthy and pain free.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Hopefully it can reduce impulsive buyers and kill buyers opportunity at auctions.
Lots of good information!
We have Draft Horses and they are wonderful! 💜🐴💜🐴
1:46 I'd like to add that it's not just about the muscles. Muscles accomodate quite quickly. It's the joints that need more time to get used to increased load.
Most definitely thank you 👍🏼
Rescues like GentleGiantRescue also have drafts horses in desperate need of homes who are way cheaper to buy.
Where I'm at in Missouri there's alot of Amish towns and they love to throw away their teams at auction if it's a minor injury, age or simply the season.
What part of MO is that?
I became a draft horse owner 2007 through PMU rescue they are the love of my life they were babies when they came to me truly a gift
I live in Canada and have done my share of camping but horse camping sounds sublime ❤❤
Wow, I LOVE your channel! I just found you....💖
We have two horses 1 Haflinger and 1 Quarterhorse .
Our buckskin Quarter gelding is my husband‘s & Haflinger mare is mine.
I’ve never had a draft horse before and she definitely is on the smaller side. She is just under 14 hands. I was so lucky to come across her in my life! Plus everything worked out beautifully for me to purchase this beautiful little mare.
She has made my life so much brighter she is the friendliest sweetest girl💯
everyone at the stables loves to tell me how much they adore her... she’s so friendly and you can seriously put anyone on her as long (as they’re the right size of course) but even a child she is so gentle.
But as you say always proceed with caution with any horse. Yes I know her and I feel completely safe with her. Plus she’s spooked a couple times with me due to other horses behind her spooking. She couldn’t see what was going on.
I agree with you 100% you have to keep your wits about you around horses. You just never know. 💯🙏
Awww I’m so excited for you!! Sounds like you have a wonderful future ahead of you with horses. Thanks for sharing and for being here!! 🤠💗
Great conversation, thanks. You look like you're feeling well. One summer I herded cattle on a Shire, which was very different from my Quarter Horse, but it was fun. I was amazed at how fast she learned. Take care.
Thanks Richard! Yes feeling better. Wow what a cool experience!
We have a couple Gypsy Drum Horses. They are amazing guys! Super sweet and full of try. Awesome video!
I eventually would love to own a Perecharon
❤ #justloveshires !
Never asked any of these questions, not an owner but just love to see and know Shires.
Lovely vid n crazy informative 🤘🏼
Cheers Luv!
Yourkshire ❤
Thanks from Chicago. I am a big man. You are giving good info
I learned to ride in 6th grade on Pete, a big ass Percheron. I remember not being able to walk right for days.
Great video, Stephanie!
Lots of great information, but I have an obscure kind of question.
Have you ever heard of people using draft horses to cut and drive beef cattle?
I used Percheron in high-school to chase dairy cattle into the barn, but that is completely different than working beef cattle.
Thanks for the great videos!
I have heard of draft/QH crosses being used for that kind of work. The big thing I think is agility and flexibility in following the cow’s movements - not something huge heavy horses are naturally great at, hence the cross. At least, that’s my take on it!
I also like draft horses very much and with your vidéos I finally decided to buy one. I looked at french breeds and fresians. Percherons are too stocky, at least most of them, clydsdales and shires are too rare in France, so I chose a "normand cob" , a filly 2.5 y old, about 16 hands. She’ s a cutie and now we learn nice safe ground manners... thank you for your nice vidéos !
I just looked up a Norman Cob. Wow! What an elegant horse! Congratulations!! So thrilled we could inspire you. I wish you many wonderful years with your gorgeous girl! ❤️🤗
Your horse is so gorgeous! i originally wanted a Drum horse but ended up with a big 16.2 APHA. Hes got more of an athletic type body which i think may be better off because i want to do jumping as well.
Thank you so much! you have a big guy too! I bet he’s fun to jump. 🤩
This is the channel I’ve been looking for! I’ve recently fallen in love with Belgian Draft horses and I’m trying to figure out if it’s just a phase 😅 it would be a 4th horse that I’ve owned although it’s been at least 8 years that I’d have one of my own.
Yay welcome! So exciting! I totally get the “phase” part. I have a lot of horse phases I’m waiting out too. 😆
My horse is a fresian-percheron cross, he's such a gentle giant! I sadly cannot trot him because he is a rescue and his hind legs are messed up. I'm hoping he can get better, if we do some work. I love him sm❤💖
He sounds beautiful! I hope he makes a full recovery soon! ❤️
Ty💖
Great video. Very informative. Fame is beautiful ❤ Thank you for sharing.
Stephanie, that was a really well presented, informative run down. I love the chunky horses, not sure what made me look up videos about them today, but I found yours, now here I am with just a passing curiosity but I’ve just watched the whole video. You’re a natural in front of the camera. How long have you owned horses & how long had you been riding before you got your first?
Thanks! It’s been well over a decade since I bought my first horse. I took some lessons as a teen but basically went into ownership cold. I try to put into the channel what I wish I had had access to back then as a complete newbie with no support. 🤪
@@HappieronaHorse That’s awesome, most “horsey people” have been brought up with horses, so even tho they have a lot of knowledge to share, it feels like a club I could never really be a part of. Your videos are VERY newbie friendly & relatable, but yet also very informative. Kudos for getting that balance right. Merry Christmas from Australia 👍
I just hade weightloss surgery my goal is to ride again. My Icelandic horse passed away at 34 years but obviously she was with pension because of old age so I haven’t riden in years. Now I’m looking into a Percheron. Love the breed but never risen one before. I really love draft horses
I love those central California trail views😍….I was born and raised in the Bay Area and moved a couple years ago but boy did that area have the absolute best trail riding spots. I sure miss the view of the ocean from my horse.
Agreed, the Bay Area has amazing trails. 🤠 hopefully you can come back and visit!
I love drafts, for their look and abilities. I’m just starting to learn. I’ve started a relationship with three light horses in a neighboring stables and paddock. My approach is gentling and establishing the trust relationship first. For these horses I’m not even riding them I’m just loving on them and building trust. (do you ride them I would have to pay for lessons which I am saving my money right now)
Props to you! Sounds like an awesome opportunity 🤠👌🏼
You're not giving yourself enough credit. You have to learn their language and they have to learn yours. No other ways to do it. You can control through a leader role or what some call a heart bond. I thought that was bullshit until the gray(white shire) on my channel came into my life. She's happy to see me, she knows another horse in the paddock is downright dangerous with me and she'll protect me from her. I can call her and she'll come. If I need to move her, I point and she'll walk with me. She will ask for help when itchy and all sort of behaviors she wont do with the owners who spend a lot more time with her. Hired another fairier and coming in late the fairier was speechless when I came in and the horse immediatly behaved. "that's YOUR horse right?" So yes, that horse prooved me there is some sort of relationship and it will differ from person to person. Whatever that bond is, it's making everything I do with her 10 times easier. It's the weirdess thing i've felt with an animal. So keep visiting them, you may see signs but keep in mind your body language is louder than your words.
@@Nordic_Mechanic exactly!!!
Feather mite are annoying but not hard to get rid off. We get them every year on Shires. The only problem with mites is the treatment turns their feathers yellow ☹
I’m riding a 16.2 mustang. (from a herd in oregon with strong draft influence) My main struggle is mounting. I am 5’4 and the stirrup is above my belly button. She’s a saint though. We can basically do anything together. However, I’m ready to get my personal horse back, who is only 14.3. Fits me a little better.
Oh my yes 😆 I totally appreciate 14h horses now!
VERY interesting and educational. Thank you for sharing! 🐴🐴
These horses are beautiful
What’s actually shocking about this is that you have to buy a trailer. I live in Poland and have my horse for 18 years now - it’s not necessary really to have your own trailer here. It’s so easy to rent one, even with an experienced driver.
He's beautiful!
Sometimes auctions will have drafts for lower prices under 10,000-5,000 depending on the factors she said. So not all horses will be expensive from the jump.
Thank you for this
great help.
That's a good video. I have a 12 hand draught, she's fab. Prices in England have doubled since lockdown but it might be worth you lot considering importing... £3k still gets you a lot of horse in UK... Just look at the cobs bred in Ireland... There's a pic on fb somewhere of a well fit bloke in a kilt riding a drum horse on the beach, carrying a Saltaire flag
Thank you! Good point, I bet the pandemic is partly to blame also. Would love to import a horse someday.
Thank you!
I'm not interested in owning a horse at all for the time being, but my girlfriend and I do go weekly to a relatives place to clean stalls and do general maintenance on a horse, two ponies, and a donkey.
I'm 100% looking to interact more with horses like Belgians, Percherons, and Clydesdales. Just a matter of networking, I guess.
See if there are any draft horse shows in your area or close enough to travel. Also check out the breed associations for those breeds and see what shows they have upcoming you might be able to attend. Good luck!
@@HappieronaHorse I attend the horse pulls at my state fair (Illinois) annually. I've become a familiar face to one of the families there, but they live so far away that it isn't realistic to be any more than an admirer to them when I go to the pulls. I tried to look for other pullers closer this year while I was there, but it's worth asking the family I'm already established with. Not interested in the pretty draft horses, but in the working ones. Thanks for your reply!
Meh, or you could just do what I do. Save one from being put down. Mine is called Gail and he has narcolepsy. Very rare and very funny! He resides with my mentally handicapped Highland steer Dail.
the stars on the bum are really cute(:
I love the big draft horses...maybe I will get a couple some day..?
I do want to point out the 20% rule is not out of date currently in 2022 it has been proven by medical licensed veterans that it is VERY important to pay attention to ur weight on the horse you are riding
Wow! this was an absolutely amazing video-Thank You for making and GreatJob!.
PeaceAndLove
Lori
Thank you so much Lori! That means a lot!
I am a heavy person and because of my weight I would never consider torchering an animal by riding, I would rather use buckboard have 2 horses pull me. those poor animals i feel bad regardless of weight of a person .
I'd trade my car for two draft horses and a buggy. I think it would be cheaper with gas prices so high.
What brand/type saddle do you have? Also, what saddle do you recommend?
Right now we ride in a Circle Y Drover trail. I like Billy Cook also. Depends on what you’re using it for. I tend to like high cantles and swells and no padding (common with ranch style saddles), but some people prefer the opposite lol. I also like minimal skirting to reduce weight.
@@HappieronaHorse thank you, I’m new to riding western (have always ridden English) and I’ll be in the market for a good all purpose use western saddle soon so I’m up for suggestions! I’m interested in one good for lessons and trail riding/pleasure 😊
Percherons seam to be very common and more affordable than other breeds in my area in the Midwest. Most of them are amish horses or loaned to amish people if the horse is over 5 years old. We are not experienced horse owners or riders but we want to be. Would getting a horse used by the amish be bad? I've heard that they are very well trained, but also more often than not are abused and could have some behavioral issues due to that.. what do you guys think?
I’ve heard both extremes when it comes to Amish trained horses. I have no personal experience to vouch either way though. I would be asking around in my community for more info - other trainers, vets, horsemen’s associations, breed clubs, etc.
I am a 6’4” 295 lbs bodybuilder (low fat, so its not like I can loose much weight). What breed of foal could I get to train for trail riding?
amazing video, draft horse a frind forr ever
Sorry i woukd ask for more details on the rider
What would you consider a large rider
A person 5'10 300 pounds ?
A person 6'7 250 pounds ?
I am a disabled lady who can't mount a horse as every one else does, can the horse be trained to kneel, also I want to go back to the simple Way of life both in regards to working on a farm, as well as using wagons and carriages (like the Amish)
Thank you for your time,
Respectfully yours,
Donna Lane
Kingman Az USA
I am an adult rider who has been riding for years now and I am looking to eventually get a horse of my own. I want to look into getting a draft horse for myself to make sure I maintain the 20% rule with myself and riding tack (I am a midsized rider and trying to get back into shape, and I am only 5'4). I have never owned a horse before and wanted to know if getting a draft horse or a smaller breed draft (gypsy vanner, etc) as a first horse would be okay?
Could be a great choice! All depends on the individual horse IMO. Chances are you’ll be fine as far as weight goes. I would focus first on a horse with training and experience that will be safe and fun for you, and work ok your balance and rein mgmt with some lessons. Good luck!
Given your height, you may not find riding a large barrel draft horse to be comfortable because of the degree of your leg spread when in the saddle.
Can you ride a draft bitless?
Yes! Just depends on the horse.
I’ve always wanted an Irish cob but I never know where I can buy one can you recommend anywhere?
I have draft mouse 🐁 but he is tough 😊
I paid 8k for my warlander filly from Mexico and the shipping was 2500.
Our vet said that larger horses don’t live as long as smaller horses. It is like dog life spans are shorter in large dogs.
My sister’s Arab lived 35 years. Her other Arab live 30 years. Is this common for draft horses?
It is for Friesian draft horses, mid teens.
Im (potentially) getting a friesian foal for 5k
What breed is he
He's a Drum horse.
@@HappieronaHorse thanks
are draft horses easy to train
Yes
Norwegians does not consider Fjord horses Draft horses.
Nor Hafflingers. Even Frisians aren't as heavy as they once were. I wouldn't consider them drafts anymore.
Ew bits. Anywho, I would like to know how you size horses to saddles etc.
I'm a balanced rider and I'm an intermediate rider and to be honest I was taught at 2 years old and for my first-time buying situation I'm a heavy set rider all due to being autistic and have cerebral palsy. Please understand that I am looking for a horse that can be gentle and "A" I'm adopting a horse "B" you don't shop for a horse you Adopt .it is all about how the horse makes you feel and how the horse feels about you. I know this because I was raise with knowledge about life and mind you that your prissy cowgirl act is annoying you got everything handed to you at a young age.
Found a jealous “victim” who had a “tough life” but yet knows they are a “balanced intermediate rider.” Every statement you made was oxymoronic. Especially the part where you wanted her to “understand” your needs while simultaneously insulting her for no reason.
We all have tough lives and you don’t need to attempt to be the toxicity in others, they don’t deserve it and you won’t experience any benefit.
Be Kinder, your genetics don’t prevent you from being decent to others.