That right there is an instant classic. Will never get sick of those classic lines. In years to come we will still look at it in awe much like I still do when a nice Mustang goes passed..
I own an Allez Sprint in a badass teal color. Was my first upgrade from an endurance bike & this thing flat out flies. I feel like I’m riding a much more expensive bike than what I’m actually on. Fantastic bike.
h31sman glad to see this, as I’m thinking of making the jump from an entry level Allez myself. How did you find the comfort levels to match up? I imagine a better pair of riding shorts, and maybe an upgraded seat would do the trick. I’m not sure though, as I’m still pretty new to the wonderful sport.
Oraine Neslon I actually made the jump from an entry level Trek Domane, so my comparison isn’t 1:1, but I would say that bumps on the road are much more noticeable on the stock tires (25c) of the Sprint. Luckily, I had GP5000s (28c) ready to put on it right away & that mitigated a lot of the bumps. I just recently swapped out the saddle as well & that was a huge improvement in ride comfort. The Toupe Sport that comes with the bike is too wide for me & made moving around in the saddle pretty uncomfortable. So I would say tires & saddle are the two worst things about the bike, but those are relatively cheap upgrades to make. The welding is something that you don’t even notice after the first time you look at the bike especially bc of the cool color schemes on it. & btw, I would definitely recommend a great pair of bib shorts/bike shorts whatever your preference is. Generally, the comfort of the chamois scales with the price of the shorts. I have some cheaper bibs that basically feel like there’s no padding at all.
@@Bluesman2509 I agree with you 100%, but they'll keep showcasing carbon fiber bikes because that's what they want to sell to the public. At the end of the day the World Tour is about marketing and sponsorship, not sensible purchase decision lol
Did the same build as this a year ago , back then they did not have the disc. Pretty much same setup except for mine runs 1x, and mavic with 28c vittoria. Out of all my carbon, alloy and steel steeds, this is clearly my fav. Just not good in the rain.... But very sharp handling. Well done Jon for covering this.
Jon, take a good look at the frame, the way the frame is made is much different than any other aluminium frame on the market, that is why I purchased one !
They make the head tube with the start of the top and down tube integrated into it already. This would make it stiffer & stronger because it’s at a joint where multiple forces come together & create extra tension. This means though that they have to attach the top and down tubes using a butt weld joint hence why the welds in that area don’t blend into the corner like other bikes. ALL the welds on this bike are bloody phenomenal. To the people who are commenting on how ugly the welds are, you’re entitled to your opinion but I just want to clarify how hard those welds are to do. You have to weld aluminium using an AC current which can be tricky at times because the arc at times can jump around from side to side. Then you have the diameter of the tube you have to contend with, you can’t weld continuously because it’s just too tight unless they have some rotary setup going on, which can’t be easily implemented in the frame. The welds themselves are extremely high quality. They’re flat and slightly wide which shows they’ve put ample heat into it. Each dip of filler is blended in nicely and smoothly without that stacked dip look which again shows ample heat input. The smoother the weld the less stress risers. Heat control is another very difficult thing to control on aluminium especially with thin stuff such as bike frames. Aluminium dissipates heat very well so as you start welding the whole frame would get very hot, this then changes the amount of amperage you input as you continue your weld. So as you weld you have to continuously adjust your amperage to compensate for the heat that has been put into the aluminium. Anyway I hope that gives people a better idea and they can appreciate something like this rather than just say that’s ugly. It’s a thing of beauty, enjoy it!
@@fernpeck Framebuilders rarely work with aluminum because they are more difficult to weld. Hydroforming aluminum tubes into shape is also beyond the financial means of many independent frame builders. Who just buy their steel tubes and dropouts from a supplier.
He is not using tubeless. That angle of the lock ring showing a tubeless setup is on a Quickstep bike it says "Wolfpack" on the inside of a black fork. If you look closely you can also see the tubular glue on the tire where it meets the rim...
Superb to see a pro like Peter Sagan riding a bike with an everyman price point that is many cash strapped Crit' racer's top choice. Superb marketing by Specialized and a relief from the super high end stuff you usually see on the Tour. He's part of the Aluminati now!
You are doing a great job, you are just giving good down to earth good information ,,,, the rest of the staff is bringing this great channel down with all the Benny Hill theatrics ,,,,
@@recklessrickey9513 Agreed! For me, my best BanG Dream girls are Rimi, Kasumi, Aya and Kokoro. Lisa is the sexiest girl in BanG Dream alongside Himari.
Thanks as always for the content and I know it might sound petty but it would great if you could just 'smash' that little lbs/kg button the scales when you weigh bikes so I don't have to go to google for the conversion before I can be 'properly' impressed or dismayed by a bicycle's weight. Thanks!
my GIANT TCR frame from early 2000's is lighter than my pinarello dogma frame. alloy has never been heavy. and i think nobody said so. alloy is just harsh ride. nothing else. but i agree on the fact that new alloy frames benefited from some good engineering. that's a good point. because diversity is what makes competition interesting.
Actually aluminum cannondale caad frames are lighter than most of carbon aero frames on the market, and I am a caad believer, riding caadx 2019 cyclocross frame
can you please help review the bike the rode pass at 5:08 !! It looks like an IMBA criterium next gen technology!! another view of it at 5:21 , droolsssss...
I've been intrigued by the Allez Sprint since it came out. Bought an ex-rental bike's frameset out of sheer curiosity, plus I wanted to experiment with a 56-cm frame (I'm 6' 1", been riding 58's for decades for the top-tube length but many modern head tubes are so long, I can't get my 'bars low enough). Long story short, I haven't felt this dialed-in on a bike in a long time. Yes, you can feel the texture of the road surface, and bad pavement's a little more punishing to the butt than on carbon, but every time I get on my Allez Sprint I think, "Now THIS is a racing bike." Plus, I can actually fit 28mm tires on it. Ugly welds? Huh... I guess I'm spending more time riding mine than looking at it.
Love this comment and conclusion. As someone who recently swapped out a Bonds carbon frame for a Rose alloy one, I conclude that the alloy doesn't have to be heavier or less compliant, as the opposite is true in my case!
Dan Bridge Ok my definition could have been more specific. He’s using “road” to describe the street, but “pavement” is describing the literal surface of the road. “Bad pavement” refers to an old, broken, bumpy road.
@@paulberesford2712 - Yeah, but... you do sound picky. :-) All jesting aside, as Eric points out, this is merely a US/UK terminology issue. In the US "pavement" is any hard road surface (generally asphalt or concrete). A paved road that abruptly turns into a dirt road may have a PAVEMENT ENDS sign. What you call the pavement, we call the sidewalk. Whether sidewalk cycling is legal is highly localized. In my hometown of Denver, it is blessedly not, but in adjacent municipalities it is allowed. And, yes, 28 mm tires on a race bike is a thing, certainly in Colorado where we have several mixed-surface races (resembling Strade Bianche) each year. The move to wider tires is A Good Thing for the sake of allowing lower pressures that keep the tires in contact with the road, and it certainly hasn't slowed down my competition...
What was that bike the FDJ rider was riding in the background at 2:24? Looks like a new prototype with interesting geometry. Any upcoming videos on that?
Paul Flory Sorry D’aluisio from Specialized which is called smartweld and it had a purpose on it here’s more fact of it have a read www.specialized.com/us/en/stories/alloy-technology
@@MrEdgemoulic Turns out to be the same Chris D'Aluisio that I knew in the late 1980's-early 1990's when he and his brother Gary were up-and-coming motorcycle roadracers. An incredibly talented guy. I still think those welds are ugly, though.
Prastt Specialized already has proper quality assurance. The welds on the smartweld frames are nice and even. Large beads do not equate to poor quality.
I road carbon ever since I started racing. Last year, I switched to the allez frame and I have no plan on ever buying another carbon frame bike. Waste of money. So many of us are fooled by bike tech and marketing. Kind of sad, but whatever.
New to cycling, I was wondering if a rim brake bike accelerates faster compared to a disk brake bike? Flats and up hills? I have a giant tcr advance disk but I do like the allez sprint . No models around me though for a test ride.
@@smallnuts2 It has to do more with your hub and how light your wheel is. Don't get caught up to much in that, especially if you are starting out. It will never win you a race. Training and mental toughness will get you the W
It's the new ultra compact frame geometry, featuring decreased frontal area for improved aerodynamics, and increased rigidity to minimize lateral flex.
GCN, can you guys do a test between the Allez Sprint and the Mach 1 Venge? Specialized is saying that it's faster than the first gen Venge. I have a 2013 and started racing again and I might be in the market for something a little bit newer. I could do a killer Allez Sprint build for about $3,500 but if my 2013 Venge Expert is faster (with 58mm carbon clinchers and a Zipp SL-70 Aero Handlebar), then I won't bother.
Take another look at the front wheel from straight on. It looks out of true and to the disc side both in the fork and in relation to the hub. I also agree with the other comments about the welding looking horrible. Overall the frame looks hastily assembled. The angle doesn't match up where the seat stays are welded down by the sprocket. For $2,200 I want more than something bodged together in a barn over the weekend.
I have two Allez Sprints. A rim brake one I use for racing and I just recently built up the new disc frame. Welds may not look suitable, but they don't budge at all. I've put my other Allez through thousands of miles of training n racing, a couple crashes, even took it on some gravel rides. So comfortable and so fast. Welds are solid as the day I bought it. I used to buy the best aero carbon frames for years, but just fell in love with the ride quality of these Allez Sprints.
@@reginaldscot165 You're an idiot. It's science. You can't get the best tube shapes for aerodynamics with aluminum. Then there are the welds. He's not gonna do the big stuff on this bike
I think John meant to say he thinks its fantastic that Sagan and some of his teammates are starting the race on aluminum bikes..... not just the fact they're starting the race.. 😂😂 haha
About $1500 USD just for the frame. But out of stock pretty much everywhere I looked. About 1/3 to 1/4 what you would pay for frames generally used in world tour events. You can get many lower end carbon frames for $1500 but not ones you would ever see in a pro peleton.
@@stuartdryer1352 It works the other way round. Any carbon frame that could sell for $1500 or less automatically triples in price if any world tour team uses it because normal Joe's got to fund the sponsorship costs...
@@julmeissonnier I think you are right. My own bike is relatively inexpensive carbon. On a recent vacation I rented a bike with a very very high end frame (a 2017 Tarmac S works), but with components not as good as the upgrades I've made to my own bike. I would have rather been on my own bike. Of course I am not looking for every single watt of marginal gain and obviously the fit on the rental was not quite as dialed in. But it definitely has made me believe that about 95% of what you read about frames is marketing. I will always buy quite modestly priced carbon frames and then spend more on Di2 and wheels, and always use my favorite Specialized Evo Romin saddle and FSA Omega compact bars.
It does look less aggressive and is also harder to work on, from integrated internal routing to the front derailleur's shift line routing at the BB shell (if you run mechanical). But at least the BB shell is on BSA.
The welds on my 2012 Allez are a hell of a lot cleaner and smoother than those to the point when I tell them that it is aluminum, they all need to come over and pluck the frame for a sound test! LOL! But a great bike or as you say John, "Ring ring 'SUPER NICE!' ring rinG!" LOL! Psssss..... The Stems are not centered!..... smh......
I have a very similar build to this but rim brake and ultegra di2, and riding this for 80 miles over bumpy back roads is not a good experience for my back or my ass
Stage 1 of the Tour Down Under is a criterium (or crit for short), which is a road cycling race discipline held on a closed circuit in a city that goes on for multiple laps. Due to the high-consequence nature of the discipline, crashes occur more often than stage races, so the last thing you want is a broken frame. This is why you may have heard why some cyclists swear by aluminium frames due to their higher impact-resistance.
I had 2 specialized in the 90s. a 92 rockhopper- the seat tube horizontal split midway up; and a 93 allez, the chainstay dropout fractured while riding- neither lasted me 2 years. As the song says, wont get fooled again
7.84kg? My aluminum bike is 9.06kg and it costed me 1700€, with shimano 105... And youre saying me that that aluminum bike is the budget version? We have different perspectives of “budget version”
This is a crit bike. Its geometry is oriented towards race use. Plus, it also features some unique AL frameset tech, like D'Alusio Smartweld. These are what drive its price higher than regular AL framesets.
@@JMacSp sames...bought the bike, removed everything, and sold all the components. Then suped it up with etap, carbon cockpit, and carbon wheels. At a 58cm frame...it's at 16.1 lbs. I love the bike
@@deepsquats11 Very nice! May i ask what your build is? I am in the process of buying an allez sprint disc, seller weighs it in at 8,3kg sram red axs, carbon cockpit, roval cl50 wheels, power meter. I am now researching how i wan to build it
Best part of this video is the FDJ rider fooling around in the background.
Darren Piotrow like they do at every tour 😏🔥🔥
Tobias Ludvigsson
I fell in love with the FDJ a week after I got my very own Lapierre MTB
Can you donate me a BMX
That right there is an instant classic. Will never get sick of those classic lines. In years to come we will still look at it in awe much like I still do when a nice Mustang goes passed..
I build those mustangs at my plant :) Glad you likem!
I own an Allez Sprint in a badass teal color. Was my first upgrade from an endurance bike & this thing flat out flies. I feel like I’m riding a much more expensive bike than what I’m actually on. Fantastic bike.
h31sman glad to see this, as I’m thinking of making the jump from an entry level Allez myself. How did you find the comfort levels to match up? I imagine a better pair of riding shorts, and maybe an upgraded seat would do the trick. I’m not sure though, as I’m still pretty new to the wonderful sport.
Oraine Neslon I actually made the jump from an entry level Trek Domane, so my comparison isn’t 1:1, but I would say that bumps on the road are much more noticeable on the stock tires (25c) of the Sprint. Luckily, I had GP5000s (28c) ready to put on it right away & that mitigated a lot of the bumps. I just recently swapped out the saddle as well & that was a huge improvement in ride comfort. The Toupe Sport that comes with the bike is too wide for me & made moving around in the saddle pretty uncomfortable. So I would say tires & saddle are the two worst things about the bike, but those are relatively cheap upgrades to make. The welding is something that you don’t even notice after the first time you look at the bike especially bc of the cool color schemes on it.
& btw, I would definitely recommend a great pair of bib shorts/bike shorts whatever your preference is. Generally, the comfort of the chamois scales with the price of the shorts. I have some cheaper bibs that basically feel like there’s no padding at all.
h31sman awesome, thanks for the reply! Enjoy the bike.
Just got my Allez Sprint (58cm, 6’ 1” 200lbs) and it is fast and stiff as hell. What an amazing machine. I pass riders on carbon all the time now.
is it the one that sells for 2400?
@@leoholdcroft8368 Yep, I got a lightly used 2018 Rim-brake model for $1600 though. An absolute steal in today’s market.
@@svfutbol20like wise got a Allen too. But I had a 58 at 5’9. I got the wrong size hhhaa. Rim brake is nice and lighter
7.8kg for an alloy frame and deep section Wheels is unbelievably light
with tubless tires/ clincher wheels and not even tubulars! Even more impressive
@@geekotron Alloy is coming back to the World Tour...just look at the quality of frames like the CAAD12.
@@Bluesman2509 I agree with you 100%, but they'll keep showcasing carbon fiber bikes because that's what they want to sell to the public. At the end of the day the World Tour is about marketing and sponsorship, not sensible purchase decision lol
Not really, I know someone who has the Allez that's in SRAM etap and deep wheels that comes in at 6.4kg, Aluminium bikes aren't heavy.
@@Bluesman2509 they are actually not
Did the same build as this a year ago , back then they did not have the disc. Pretty much same setup except for mine runs 1x, and mavic with 28c vittoria. Out of all my carbon, alloy and steel steeds, this is clearly my fav. Just not good in the rain.... But very sharp handling. Well done Jon for covering this.
what does the bike handling in the rain have to do with frame composition?
@@nachelia in referring to allez frame that is rim brake. Affects ride confidence when paired with carbon rims mainly is my point.
Jon, take a good look at the frame, the way the frame is made is much different than any other aluminium frame on the market, that is why I purchased one !
Best bang for the buck frameset us mortals can buy!
They make the head tube with the start of the top and down tube integrated into it already. This would make it stiffer & stronger because it’s at a joint where multiple forces come together & create extra tension. This means though that they have to attach the top and down tubes using a butt weld joint hence why the welds in that area don’t blend into the corner like other bikes. ALL the welds on this bike are bloody phenomenal. To the people who are commenting on how ugly the welds are, you’re entitled to your opinion but I just want to clarify how hard those welds are to do.
You have to weld aluminium using an AC current which can be tricky at times because the arc at times can jump around from side to side. Then you have the diameter of the tube you have to contend with, you can’t weld continuously because it’s just too tight unless they have some rotary setup going on, which can’t be easily implemented in the frame. The welds themselves are extremely high quality. They’re flat and slightly wide which shows they’ve put ample heat into it. Each dip of filler is blended in nicely and smoothly without that stacked dip look which again shows ample heat input. The smoother the weld the less stress risers. Heat control is another very difficult thing to control on aluminium especially with thin stuff such as bike frames. Aluminium dissipates heat very well so as you start welding the whole frame would get very hot, this then changes the amount of amperage you input as you continue your weld. So as you weld you have to continuously adjust your amperage to compensate for the heat that has been put into the aluminium. Anyway I hope that gives people a better idea and they can appreciate something like this rather than just say that’s ugly. It’s a thing of beauty, enjoy it!
Jurica Kalcina found the framebuilder ♥️
@@fernpeck Framebuilders rarely work with aluminum because they are more difficult to weld. Hydroforming aluminum tubes into shape is also beyond the financial means of many independent frame builders. Who just buy their steel tubes and dropouts from a supplier.
Roval CLX64 comes stock with ceramicspeed bearings. Almost every roval wheelset does actually of it ends with the letter X like this one.
You are correct! Come on GCN get it together!
He is not using tubeless. That angle of the lock ring showing a tubeless setup is on a Quickstep bike it says "Wolfpack" on the inside of a black fork. If you look closely you can also see the tubular glue on the tire where it meets the rim...
Real unusual bike for a pro, with a great paint job where the green just jumps out at you.
Not Sagan's aluminium Allez, the FDJ flat bar bike behind!
Looks like mercedes f1
Slick bike. Looks like it would have a snappy response to sprinting, especially with that 54 tooth at the front. Beastly.
Superb to see a pro like Peter Sagan riding a bike with an everyman price point that is many cash strapped Crit' racer's top choice. Superb marketing by Specialized and a relief from the super high end stuff you usually see on the Tour. He's part of the Aluminati now!
Carbonati..
Thank you GCN!!
If aluminum is good enough for Peter Sagan, then it's good enough for you
You are doing a great job, you are just giving good down to earth good information ,,,, the rest of the staff is bringing this great channel down with all the Benny Hill theatrics ,,,,
I've got the rim brake version, such a lovely bike to ride.
As long as there are no bumps...
#truth
2:24
Also, CeramicSpeed is standard on these wheels.
Lan Huang that's a shame... need to bang some quality steel in there.
I'll surely buy the Allez Sprint as my next bike
Crazy that 3 years ago no one raced on tubeless
The cyclist at the back lol
What's the carbon weight equivalent?
@@lawrencev.athill7502 i had the same Qs too
2:24 New ultra comfy off stage bike for FDJ now with rim brakes !
Thanks, Jon, and it sounds like even Peter buys upgrades.
You day it is FANTASTIC
Wow!
That Specialized Allez looks beautiful, sexy and hyper nice! I love it!
Omaris Bhumiriady LISA IMAI IS BETTER
@@recklessrickey9513 Agreed!
For me, my best BanG Dream girls are Rimi, Kasumi, Aya and Kokoro. Lisa is the sexiest girl in BanG Dream alongside Himari.
Thanks as always for the content and I know it might sound petty but it would great if you could just 'smash' that little lbs/kg button the scales when you weigh bikes so I don't have to go to google for the conversion before I can be 'properly' impressed or dismayed by a bicycle's weight. Thanks!
Caad 12, 6,9kgs, pedals included,size 58.
Who say's alloy is heavy ?!
Some rich asses
my GIANT TCR frame from early 2000's is lighter than my pinarello dogma frame. alloy has never been heavy. and i think nobody said so. alloy is just harsh ride. nothing else. but i agree on the fact that new alloy frames benefited from some good engineering. that's a good point. because diversity is what makes competition interesting.
Actually aluminum cannondale caad frames are lighter than most of carbon aero frames on the market, and I am a caad believer, riding caadx 2019 cyclocross frame
@@JayB-lz6yd Alloy beeing a harsh ride is BS aswell.
can you please help review the bike the rode pass at 5:08 !! It looks like an IMBA criterium next gen technology!! another view of it at 5:21 , droolsssss...
Ring the bell.
I've been intrigued by the Allez Sprint since it came out. Bought an ex-rental bike's frameset out of sheer curiosity, plus I wanted to experiment with a 56-cm frame (I'm 6' 1", been riding 58's for decades for the top-tube length but many modern head tubes are so long, I can't get my 'bars low enough).
Long story short, I haven't felt this dialed-in on a bike in a long time. Yes, you can feel the texture of the road surface, and bad pavement's a little more punishing to the butt than on carbon, but every time I get on my Allez Sprint I think, "Now THIS is a racing bike." Plus, I can actually fit 28mm tires on it.
Ugly welds? Huh... I guess I'm spending more time riding mine than looking at it.
Love this comment and conclusion. As someone who recently swapped out a Bonds carbon frame for a Rose alloy one, I conclude that the alloy doesn't have to be heavier or less compliant, as the opposite is true in my case!
Dan Bridge In America the road is referred to as “the pavement”
Dan Bridge Ok my definition could have been more specific. He’s using “road” to describe the street, but “pavement” is describing the literal surface of the road. “Bad pavement” refers to an old, broken, bumpy road.
Dan Bridge no worries. Hope it’s clear now what the OP meant.
@@paulberesford2712 - Yeah, but... you do sound picky. :-) All jesting aside, as Eric points out, this is merely a US/UK terminology issue. In the US "pavement" is any hard road surface (generally asphalt or concrete). A paved road that abruptly turns into a dirt road may have a PAVEMENT ENDS sign.
What you call the pavement, we call the sidewalk. Whether sidewalk cycling is legal is highly localized. In my hometown of Denver, it is blessedly not, but in adjacent municipalities it is allowed.
And, yes, 28 mm tires on a race bike is a thing, certainly in Colorado where we have several mixed-surface races (resembling Strade Bianche) each year. The move to wider tires is A Good Thing for the sake of allowing lower pressures that keep the tires in contact with the road, and it certainly hasn't slowed down my competition...
Winner of the world blindfolded welding championships 2019.
keyboard welder?
What's the difference between god and a welder? God doesnt walk around all day thinking hes a fucking welder
The fat weld helps to give it strength, as the Ali is incredibly thin on these.
What was that bike the FDJ rider was riding in the background at 2:24? Looks like a new prototype with interesting geometry. Any upcoming videos on that?
Freehub soundcheck?
I wonder how it's possible that they still forget the hub sound check from time to time.
It's my favourite moment of bike reviews and sadly they forget it more often than not
Linda bike,abraço do PLANETA DA BIKE S/A ,from Brazil.
@3:22 Looks like chewing gum is used to attach the rear dropouts to the seat and chain stays.
JB Weld
That’s what they called d’allusio weld which is not the similar weld that you see.
@@MrEdgemoulic Where does the name d'allusio come from? Cannondale?
Paul Flory Sorry D’aluisio from Specialized which is called smartweld and it had a purpose on it here’s more fact of it have a read www.specialized.com/us/en/stories/alloy-technology
@@MrEdgemoulic Turns out to be the same Chris D'Aluisio that I knew in the late 1980's-early 1990's when he and his brother Gary were up-and-coming motorcycle roadracers. An incredibly talented guy. I still think those welds are ugly, though.
I wonder if we will see more bike companies revisiting aluminum with more of an eye towards performance and higher end group sets?
Already done by Cannondale. Those look like carbon frames unlike this with those awful ugly welds
Check out Rose Pro SL
Cannondale grinds their welds and uses body filler. The Sprint leaves the weld visible to show that there are no imperfections.
@@prestachuck2867 why would the consumer know about welding imperfections? Doesn't make sense to leave them. Just do proper quality assurance
Prastt Specialized already has proper quality assurance. The welds on the smartweld frames are nice and even. Large beads do not equate to poor quality.
I road carbon ever since I started racing. Last year, I switched to the allez frame and I have no plan on ever buying another carbon frame bike. Waste of money. So many of us are fooled by bike tech and marketing. Kind of sad, but whatever.
I did the same. It's a little harsh so I have a second bike for training, but the Allez Sprint is an absolute beast
New to cycling, I was wondering if a rim brake bike accelerates faster compared to a disk brake bike? Flats and up hills?
I have a giant tcr advance disk but I do like the allez sprint . No models around me though for a test ride.
@@smallnuts2 It has to do more with your hub and how light your wheel is. Don't get caught up to much in that, especially if you are starting out. It will never win you a race. Training and mental toughness will get you the W
@@benjamindent4806 thank you
Im not to sure about FGJ's new bike at 2:25 into the video.
It's the new ultra compact frame geometry, featuring decreased frontal area for improved aerodynamics, and increased rigidity to minimize lateral flex.
Was that weigh in done with 2 full water bottles on it? I highly doubt he's going into a race carrying 2.2 extra lbs of bike than he has to.
GCN, can you guys do a test between the Allez Sprint and the Mach 1 Venge? Specialized is saying that it's faster than the first gen Venge. I have a 2013 and started racing again and I might be in the market for something a little bit newer. I could do a killer Allez Sprint build for about $3,500 but if my 2013 Venge Expert is faster (with 58mm carbon clinchers and a Zipp SL-70 Aero Handlebar), then I won't bother.
Its fawkin sick.👍
2:25 and 5:22
spot on!!
Great looking bike. I am amused by the specs.
Now my old aluminium frame aint going nowhere!
Size 56 my size.If you are giving this bike away, I would be happy to take this beauty off your hands!!
If you don't like the bike just take off all the components and send them to me.
A very efficient weapon for Crit racing !
gone are the days of 22 pound alloy bikes... Some are 18 lbs. Alloy is closing the gap to the point where pros can use these bikes.
Take another look at the front wheel from straight on. It looks out of true and to the disc side both in the fork and in relation to the hub. I also agree with the other comments about the welding looking horrible. Overall the frame looks hastily assembled. The angle doesn't match up where the seat stays are welded down by the sprocket. For $2,200 I want more than something bodged together in a barn over the weekend.
What? 2.200 $ for an aluminium bike?
I have two Allez Sprints. A rim brake one I use for racing and I just recently built up the new disc frame.
Welds may not look suitable, but they don't budge at all. I've put my other Allez through thousands of miles of training n racing, a couple crashes, even took it on some gravel rides. So comfortable and so fast. Welds are solid as the day I bought it.
I used to buy the best aero carbon frames for years, but just fell in love with the ride quality of these Allez Sprints.
@@deepsquats11 I agree they are among the best bikes in the world for the money. This specimen just looks rushed.
He is so confident in his ability that he doesn't need carbon frame to win..
Nah, probably sponsorship deals. Specialized wants to show this bike to the World.
He sure as fuck isn't riding this in the classics, grand tours or World Championships
Well 1 he didn't and 2 no one needs carbon to win, it's just marketing
@@reginaldscot165 You're an idiot. It's science. You can't get the best tube shapes for aerodynamics with aluminum. Then there are the welds. He's not gonna do the big stuff on this bike
@@veganpotterthevegan not true as alu can be water formed to a wide variery of forms nowadays
...it sure is a great looking bike
I think John meant to say he thinks its fantastic that Sagan and some of his teammates are starting the race on aluminum bikes..... not just the fact they're starting the race.. 😂😂 haha
Super nice
Peel the damn plastic off the digital scale display!
Frontwheel doesn‘t look being centered inbetween the fork blades.
2:25 that is the bike im riding , I mean the one behind
2:24 nice
Great bike, wonder about the price tag, reasonably light for an aluminium bike.
cos as much as a carbon frame
1600€ for frameset/seatpost
About $1500 USD just for the frame. But out of stock pretty much everywhere I looked. About 1/3 to 1/4 what you would pay for frames generally used in world tour events. You can get many lower end carbon frames for $1500 but not ones you would ever see in a pro peleton.
@@stuartdryer1352 It works the other way round. Any carbon frame that could sell for $1500 or less automatically triples in price if any world tour team uses it because normal Joe's got to fund the sponsorship costs...
@@julmeissonnier I think you are right. My own bike is relatively inexpensive carbon. On a recent vacation I rented a bike with a very very high end frame (a 2017 Tarmac S works), but with components not as good as the upgrades I've made to my own bike. I would have rather been on my own bike. Of course I am not looking for every single watt of marginal gain and obviously the fit on the rental was not quite as dialed in. But it definitely has made me believe that about 95% of what you read about frames is marketing. I will always buy quite modestly priced carbon frames and then spend more on Di2 and wheels, and always use my favorite Specialized Evo Romin saddle and FSA Omega compact bars.
Those seatstays scare the crap out of me
I was hoping that this video would answer why he opted for an alu frame and not the carbon version.. anyone knows?
You neglected to mention why he/they have chosen an aluminium frame over a carbon frame. What is the benefit?
1. Marketing
2. It's designed as a Crit bike, it's a crit race
3. Marketing
4. Marketing...
I'll take it
Aluminum is a nice choice for batteries too.
lol the 2022 allez sprint model is like several bars below this.
It does look less aggressive and is also harder to work on, from integrated internal routing to the front derailleur's shift line routing at the BB shell (if you run mechanical).
But at least the BB shell is on BSA.
Missing the rack and mudguard mounts!
My allez, sora and r500 wheels is about 9 kilos. Sagan's wheels must be really light.
The welds on my 2012 Allez are a hell of a lot cleaner and smoother than those to the point when I tell them that it is aluminum, they all need to come over and pluck the frame for a sound test! LOL! But a great bike or as you say John, "Ring ring 'SUPER NICE!' ring rinG!" LOL! Psssss..... The Stems are not centered!..... smh......
2:24 he should consult his fitter asap.
I read that he only used the bike for a few days/races and then never used an Allez again. Anyone know if that is true?
Cool FDJ cyclist Tobias Ludvigsson is sweeping by in the background, go Tobias😎
I have a very similar build to this but rim brake and ultegra di2, and riding this for 80 miles over bumpy back roads is not a good experience for my back or my ass
Now that the bike industry has exhausted sales of plastic bikes, a resurrection of aluminium is coming.
Theyve actually convinced people that 5 grand is a reasonable price for a bike these days.😂
Did he win the game ?
why are they using a alloy bike? is there some sort of special regulation?
Stage 1 of the Tour Down Under is a criterium (or crit for short), which is a road cycling race discipline held on a closed circuit in a city that goes on for multiple laps. Due to the high-consequence nature of the discipline, crashes occur more often than stage races, so the last thing you want is a broken frame.
This is why you may have heard why some cyclists swear by aluminium frames due to their higher impact-resistance.
5:08 i laughed at that moment
Some warm-up
Would this bike be ok for day to day rides?
If you can handle the bike's lacking compliance, it should be OK. This bike isn't going to feel as comfortable as a carbon bike.
Do pros use a titanium bike for racing? If not why not ride a titanium bike?
Sagan go fast, very fast...!
Does it have a threadfit bb?
The stem is 140mm you mean? Or u actually mean 150mm...
I had 2 specialized in the 90s. a 92 rockhopper- the seat tube horizontal split midway up; and a 93 allez, the chainstay dropout fractured while riding- neither lasted me 2 years.
As the song says, wont get fooled again
I rode several aluminum bikes.
What degree is the stem sir? Thanks for the reply :))
Zipp sl sprint is -12
why dont pros use tubeless?
7.84kg? My aluminum bike is 9.06kg and it costed me 1700€, with shimano 105... And youre saying me that that aluminum bike is the budget version? We have different perspectives of “budget version”
This is a crit bike. Its geometry is oriented towards race use. Plus, it also features some unique AL frameset tech, like D'Alusio Smartweld. These are what drive its price higher than regular AL framesets.
The Iphone XR of road bikes
larry david that’s actually a good analogy
So it won't sell and specialized will need to limit production?
Like sagan or the team are worried to destroy a carbon bike in the criterium
The Communist They aren’t worried. They wanted the stiffest bike for the crit.
why did he choose aluminum?
Сколько такой вел может держать среднию скорасть
4:16
I don’t think he’s using Sprinter Shifters though
Why heavier aluminium bike?
Although it's heavier, it's more impact-resistant. Plus, crits are rarely hilly, so weight isn't a primary concern.
@@sbccbc7471 those carbon bikes are already so strong for those races. I dont think he is riding aluminium anymore. Pointless
@@merttt1923 It's only for Stage 1 of the Tour Down Under.
What brand handlebar tape?
Just check the specs of the standard bike. This one has only the frame of it... Just a Specialized marketing move to attract attention on the bike
@@JMacSp sames...bought the bike, removed everything, and sold all the components.
Then suped it up with etap, carbon cockpit, and carbon wheels. At a 58cm frame...it's at 16.1 lbs. I love the bike
It clearly worked, lots of attention
@@deepsquats11 Very nice! May i ask what your build is? I am in the process of buying an allez sprint disc, seller weighs it in at 8,3kg sram red axs, carbon cockpit, roval cl50 wheels, power meter. I am now researching how i wan to build it
Weight of this bike?
Huynya this bike
I like aluminium!
Caad 12 durace comes at 7.2 kg
Hitting less than 7 kg on an Allez Sprint Disc isn't impossible, but lots of carbon bits are needed.
How the heck is it 7.8 kg?
This could be an Advantage going down hill. Weight and Gravity
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