Hahahahahahahahahah yeah so many buttons nowadays even more to come on tww... they need to lower the amount of buttons like they did on shadowlands for us casuals
The most valuable tier list I have watched. As a returning player I want to understand things like mechanics, fun factor, difficulty etc. not just what’s strong at the time like most tier lists. Great video
@@boxicool i think its a case of, UH dps rotation is way harder than frosts but UH can zugzug, frost can just spam 3 buttons, but setting up the win condition with triple blind, dnd, cleaves with your partner/random people in shuffle. is so hard, especially in shuffle. frost dk is honestly insane hard to do well with in shuffle for example but uh slams it
@@ParallelsGaming I play DK since i started wow from WoD. And always frost was to boring for me but now its really nice! I swap all the time between 3 specs only on shaman i like all of them. So I think frost have bright future! Yes, fury is totall no brain :D
This honestly could be a strength tier list for the majority of players. People don't realize how much difficulty comes into play and focus too much on the highest level of play. It doesn't matter if your class is 10% better at optimal levels if you're playing it at 50% of its potential.
Supa I think these types of videos help people pick their mains for upcoming expac more than power based tier list. Because we all know things will get tuned early season 1
@17:14 "...if it seems dumb you just keep making it more dumb and then you double down on the dumb and you end up in a really good place" 🤣AHAHAHHAHA as a fury war in DF S2 I approve 🤣
Unholy is much more compex, id say hard. You have diseases and wounds to upkeep, youre gated by runes especially with lower haste values at the start of an expansion, you have pet management like positioning it for kicks and root etc, you have plaguebringer to upkeep, deathrot stacks to upkeep etc. you then also have dark sim as a pvp talent now as strang wont be taken as much which is a unique ability and p high skillcap, youre very squishy vs melee etc
Ele skill floor is low but skill cap is high, and that’s why outside of silly prepatch nonsense, it had some of the lowest rep at the top of the ladder. You could play fire, boomy, spriest, dev and get better results and had more t1 comps. All these FOTM ele that are playing arena nonstop now couldn’t break 2100 in the normal season.
Funny thing is after playing a lot of beta Devoker ended up being the easiest thing ever in pvp then as Supa said then Fury Frost then BM in that order
Supa, how can destro/demo be easier to play than frost mage? all frost is doing on beta is spamming instant flurries and icelance doing millions of damage. That paired with destro/demos being turret specs and having to fake cast all the time/deal with groundings etc, + being squishier now in general after the nerfs to soul /demon skin , it's definitely harder than frost mage i'd say.
Aug is pretty challenging... gotta work with your team to know when to use EM, when to put Def on your teammates, off heal, also line up bursts during EM windows. More to it than just popping cds and doing damage... especially after the nerfs. I'm still gonna play it though
As warlock/shadow priest main with DK and shaman alt. Ele is easy to learn, but so hard to master in battle. Shadow is super easy for me, just dot and do single targer with skill prio - plague always up-plague if overcap insanity-sw:death if execute range-voidbolt if in voidform-mindblast-mindflay/spike. Dont know why is always hard...
The utility is what makes a shadow priest difficult. How often do you dispel key magic effects on your teammates? How often are you offensively dispelling key buffs on enemies? Life swaps to save the game? Mind control to win/save the game? Shadow word: death to avoid CC? Using psychic horror or silence peel for teammates, etc It has the offensive mastery of every dps with the added role of being an offhealer/support
@@Dakodi_ oh, shit i thought this is a PvE list, i have little experience at 1830 rating in PvP. As a warlock, because SP is just a shit spec for PvP in general, fade is only 1 sec, no escapes at all, all what u can is be a punch bag and try to atleast DoT enemies and live to save sometime for your teammates to play)
@@Dakodi_ and u cant be offhealer now, just a punch bag. Every exp player would just fake cast and make you spend SWD. I feel pvp more balance in SoD now, rather on retail.
I play ret and feral and personally ret is harder for me. I think as the dps of feral is harder, but ret has so much utility and team abilities and so many macros. You need more awareness imo on ret than any other melee because you’re very focused on your own team.
Play it simple, I like to play frost but I remove the buttons I don't have skill to play hahaha, thus I only focus on what my brain can handle it is what it is
Ret is easy to be decent at, but not at higher Elo. Need keybinds for all party members for sac,freedom,protection, etc. Same for heals. Can’t change targets to pop utility spells at high Elo. Need to have awareness and cd management abilities being a hybrid Bc of this Ret will always have a higher skill cap than the average player realizes
I've played most specs at 1800-2400, for some reason the one spec I couldn't get my head around was survival hunter, kept getting destroyed then gave up and went back to mm which I find easy af lol. I will say though my 2nd most played spec would be arcane mage. Currently got it sitting on 2400 in solo and 2200 in 2s. I agree its a harder spec to learn but I don't think its as hard as people make it out to be. There is a lot to think about but your damage rotaion is literally 3-4 buttons
I main Fistweaver. I dropped Casterweaver at the start of DL and never looked back. That said.... there are a lot of bad Fistweavers out there. A lot. Casterweaver is the easier spec to play, especially for newbies.
I’m trying to decide between fury/arms, deva, MM Hunter, holy pri/pal, frost, affli, destro, arcane. Maybe ele. Nothing else. I’ve been a lock (specifically affli) main forever, am a 3s glad skill wise, (but didn’t really enjoy lock in dragonflight.) I have healed before but nothing serious. What do you reccomend?
Watch gameplay and maybe guides on each of the classes you're interested in. Maybe shoot for class fantasy or try out multiple till you find what is most fun. These should help you decide
How is resto shaman super hard? It's the healer that was second easiest for me to learn as a casual next to Disc for that matter. Resto druid i can't seem to do beyond average with.
@@vispnx arguing against the ease of use that is a timestamp is ridiculous lmao of course it's not hard to skim the video but having a timestamp makes it super easy. what is the issue with asking for timestamps?
This is helpful for me. Do you mind doing a tier list for PvE as well, because when I’m not in battlegrounds I plan on doing some mythics. And I value your opinion. Thank you
Because of magic school : dps and sheep are on the same. You have only one block with no cauterisation. And finally, you need to cast to really dps not like frost (ice lance) and fire.
im affliction main and arena is rough. everyone is on you instantly and warlocks survivability/mobility only goes so far. like im not joking as soon as the gates open they are on you like flies on shit. horrible experience.
Putting ele on super EZ is a huge miss for me. Its super EZ to be mid. But to be a gladiator? Kicks, purges, grounds, tremors, hexes, statics, stuns.. a lot of responsibility / utility that needs to be used right (perhaps most)
It’s very beneficial for people to realize that big number tuning doesn’t lead to an easy time always. Mage is such a good example of this. The mage played by a top tier player is absolutely insane, but you put a new player on a mage and they are stomped. I know back in the day we would always talk about skill floor and skill ceiling, and I wish more content creators addressed that.
@@davidcisneros2810 I’m talking about win probability and player representation above 2400 rating .. not modes of transportation. A bike requires physical exertion so arguably not. Why do you think frost dk PvP is easy? To me, easy means how challenging is it to win and climb rating. If all you are saying is that it’s easy to login and lose then the tier list is meaningless and every class should be equally rated
Classes that have a permanent pet, therefore require proper pet management while playing your actual character are at least medium if not hard... no clue how something like hunter can be put into super ez... doesn't make sense, hunter is super unforgiving. Also mixing healer and dps classes, two pair of shoes, would always seperate them since it's always harder to heal since you have to track your team abilities and shit. For DPS classes: EZ: melees that have few cc abilities with a higher cd (35sec - 1min stuns etc.) and do not require you to interact with teammates a lot -> Warrior, DK, DH, Monk KINDA EZ: melees that require you to interact with your team: RET, ENH, FERAL, BM-Hunter (easiest hunter spec but pet management) MIDDLE: RANGES without pet that are getting focused a lot: MAGES, SHADOW, ELE, BOOMIE, EVOKER + Hunter (MM+SV) simply because they have a pet to manage and are not forgiving HARDEST: WARLOCK straight up! they have a pet, get almost always focused and have to cast Another LEVEL: ROGUE, hard to play, requires you to be the conducter -> you are dictating the game, if you can't you wont be good at the class (Sub is way harder than Assa or Outlaw)
makes no sense... an easy class is something like BM. A class which is playable for people with bad hands, concentration issues, lack of experience in general, children. Resto druid for example is not a class like this.
What I don't understand is why people are always struggling to pick mains. Are you guys changing mains every season or what ? Is it due to meta chasing ?
Completely disagree on the unholy and frost. Way harder to get value out of frost in arena and just damage. Also with these new changes unholy is far easier
frost dk and arms are very hard to play . their self healing is almost zero in pvp and every healer spec is medium to omega easy because the healing specs in pvp are op
Tell me you have never played a healer without telling me. Frost DK Face roll on keyboard do damage during pillar. Healer ,watch your entire teams health,assist with CC and damage,remove Dr buffs,poisons etc. Effectively manage mana between doing all of that and keep moving well so you aren't a sitting duck. Frost DK...sit and hope your healer is good. Continue face roll.
@@r-ex2945he is multiple r1 on many classes, on the other side u have no clue at all. Rets are super easy, eat it! U suck hardcore if u think otherwise, then the game is not for u, too difficult for your skills fif u dont find Ret super easy. He plays most classes above 2400, i bet u never went past 1800. so dont act like someone who knows stuff, ur just bad af
I thought all classes are easy until I realized I was taking the sheer ridiculous amount of time I’ve spent playing this game for granted. This video is for newer players. WoW PvP isn’t easy. Between talents, CD’s, abilities, passives, CC, DR, damage rotations, positioning, WoW PvP is much more complex that we PvP veterans realize and take for granted.
Bias again... Talking about button bloat, but than call ret easy :p. You need to watch your build ups on stacks on ret to do real damage. You have multiple buttons which are in certain situation valid, which also makes you have more button bloat. Calling boomkin more difficult than ret is a joke. I play both and I started my boomkin last 2 expansions and mostly play it end of a season and I do way better with druid than my ret paladin every season. I just started Elemental shaman after like 10 years and its way easier than my ret paladin aswell in pvp.
Not calling it the "Supaease" tier is a crime
any spec i play is omega hard because I suck 🤣
Then don't suck. Easy.
@@manthe3711 dont be poor, easy.
Dont be stupid, easy
Just dont have cancer, easy
Hehe same:D
Hahahahahahahahahah yeah so many buttons nowadays even more to come on tww... they need to lower the amount of buttons like they did on shadowlands for us casuals
@@animalnation3125 No. You casuals need to L2P until you master all those buttons. You don't need to master the game after 2 weeks.
The most valuable tier list I have watched. As a returning player I want to understand things like mechanics, fun factor, difficulty etc. not just what’s strong at the time like most tier lists. Great video
Unholy "It's a lot more complicated than frost, but not by much..." I'm getting mixed messages here :)
yeah unholy and frost def arent on the same scale in terms of difficulty
Frost is easiest spec in game
@@boxicool i think its a case of, UH dps rotation is way harder than frosts but UH can zugzug, frost can just spam 3 buttons, but setting up the win condition with triple blind, dnd, cleaves with your partner/random people in shuffle. is so hard, especially in shuffle. frost dk is honestly insane hard to do well with in shuffle for example but uh slams it
@@boxicool frost is a setup with triple fear etc, could be tricky for a noob. fury is the real no brain melee
@@ParallelsGaming I play DK since i started wow from WoD. And always frost was to boring for me but now its really nice! I swap all the time between 3 specs only on shaman i like all of them. So I think frost have bright future! Yes, fury is totall no brain :D
if tier lists are a drug. supa is my drug dealer. i cant click tier list vids fast enough.
I know I love them
This honestly could be a strength tier list for the majority of players. People don't realize how much difficulty comes into play and focus too much on the highest level of play. It doesn't matter if your class is 10% better at optimal levels if you're playing it at 50% of its potential.
Supa I think these types of videos help people pick their mains for upcoming expac more than power based tier list. Because we all know things will get tuned early season 1
I think Outlaw is definitely the same as sub and surely harder than assa.
And why do u think so?
Oh hell yeah! I was just getting back on the game today for the first time in a while trying to figure out what class to play for TWW.
Survival Hunter, bro
YEAR OF THE SPEAR
Ret paladin ! Solid choice
@@benkelly7182 yea im gonna be maining survival this xpac
@@taz_trader you need Taz as your pet 😂
@17:14 "...if it seems dumb you just keep making it more dumb and then you double down on the dumb and you end up in a really good place" 🤣AHAHAHHAHA as a fury war in DF S2 I approve 🤣
That part made me laugh lol
man, the way u described havoc DH, def doesnt make it seem like a "super ez" class lol
Unholy is much more compex, id say hard. You have diseases and wounds to upkeep, youre gated by runes especially with lower haste values at the start of an expansion, you have pet management like positioning it for kicks and root etc, you have plaguebringer to upkeep, deathrot stacks to upkeep etc. you then also have dark sim as a pvp talent now as strang wont be taken as much which is a unique ability and p high skillcap, youre very squishy vs melee etc
Ele skill floor is low but skill cap is high, and that’s why outside of silly prepatch nonsense, it had some of the lowest rep at the top of the ladder. You could play fire, boomy, spriest, dev and get better results and had more t1 comps. All these FOTM ele that are playing arena nonstop now couldn’t break 2100 in the normal season.
i love that u finally ranked sp on the right place - overnered and hardest caster to play with arcane - agree on everything :-)
Hey Supa, next tier list, skill ceiling (how high can a class go in terms of the more skill you pour in it, the more it performs)
I really like this kind of tier list!! What about a 1600-2k tier list for solo q?
Thats what i am looking for as a player who rejoins after a long time, thanks!
It’s always the same fury, frost DK, and BM hunter.
Funny thing is after playing a lot of beta Devoker ended up being the easiest thing ever in pvp then as Supa said then Fury Frost then BM in that order
@@Devcom88 yeah that is true that whole class is based around one button forgot about them.
Supa, how can destro/demo be easier to play than frost mage? all frost is doing on beta is spamming instant flurries and icelance doing millions of damage. That paired with destro/demos being turret specs and having to fake cast all the time/deal with groundings etc, + being squishier now in general after the nerfs to soul /demon skin , it's definitely harder than frost mage i'd say.
Aug is pretty challenging... gotta work with your team to know when to use EM, when to put Def on your teammates, off heal, also line up bursts during EM windows. More to it than just popping cds and doing damage... especially after the nerfs. I'm still gonna play it though
Thanks Supa! A man of the people ✊
As warlock/shadow priest main with DK and shaman alt. Ele is easy to learn, but so hard to master in battle.
Shadow is super easy for me, just dot and do single targer with skill prio - plague always up-plague if overcap insanity-sw:death if execute range-voidbolt if in voidform-mindblast-mindflay/spike.
Dont know why is always hard...
The utility is what makes a shadow priest difficult. How often do you dispel key magic effects on your teammates? How often are you offensively dispelling key buffs on enemies? Life swaps to save the game? Mind control to win/save the game? Shadow word: death to avoid CC? Using psychic horror or silence peel for teammates, etc
It has the offensive mastery of every dps with the added role of being an offhealer/support
@@Dakodi_ oh, shit i thought this is a PvE list, i have little experience at 1830 rating in PvP. As a warlock, because SP is just a shit spec for PvP in general, fade is only 1 sec, no escapes at all, all what u can is be a punch bag and try to atleast DoT enemies and live to save sometime for your teammates to play)
@@Dakodi_ and u cant be offhealer now, just a punch bag. Every exp player would just fake cast and make you spend SWD.
I feel pvp more balance in SoD now, rather on retail.
I play ret and feral and personally ret is harder for me. I think as the dps of feral is harder, but ret has so much utility and team abilities and so many macros. You need more awareness imo on ret than any other melee because you’re very focused on your own team.
how is rdruid together with a bm hunter? makes literally no sense
Because of certain cheese builds
im here only to check where mage stands
okay, i agree with this tier list from a mage pov.
Feral has to be the hardest. Hell, you play druid all day, and even you don't play it
Solid list! Thank you!!
Too much button bloat on frost mage, holy priest & resto druid.
Play it simple, I like to play frost but I remove the buttons I don't have skill to play hahaha, thus I only focus on what my brain can handle
it is what it is
Thank you for all the insight
Ret is easy to be decent at, but not at higher Elo. Need keybinds for all party members for sac,freedom,protection, etc. Same for heals.
Can’t change targets to pop utility spells at high Elo.
Need to have awareness and cd management abilities being a hybrid
Bc of this Ret will always have a higher skill cap than the average player realizes
Every single class is not considered easy, especially in pvp. Like mike tyson said, " everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face."
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I've played most specs at 1800-2400, for some reason the one spec I couldn't get my head around was survival hunter, kept getting destroyed then gave up and went back to mm which I find easy af lol. I will say though my 2nd most played spec would be arcane mage. Currently got it sitting on 2400 in solo and 2200 in 2s. I agree its a harder spec to learn but I don't think its as hard as people make it out to be. There is a lot to think about but your damage rotaion is literally 3-4 buttons
Survival is easy and fun playstyle.
I main Fistweaver. I dropped Casterweaver at the start of DL and never looked back.
That said.... there are a lot of bad Fistweavers out there. A lot. Casterweaver is the easier spec to play, especially for newbies.
Using eles full kit is hard, right now it’s just skewed by numbers that aren’t tuned good yet
Love it. Likely to play assa, sub, and rdruid this xpac
Fury warrior sounds perfect for me.
I’m trying to decide between fury/arms, deva, MM Hunter, holy pri/pal, frost, affli, destro, arcane. Maybe ele. Nothing else. I’ve been a lock (specifically affli) main forever, am a 3s glad skill wise, (but didn’t really enjoy lock in dragonflight.) I have healed before but nothing serious. What do you reccomend?
Watch gameplay and maybe guides on each of the classes you're interested in. Maybe shoot for class fantasy or try out multiple till you find what is most fun. These should help you decide
Unholy next to arms .. my eyes 👀
Solid list. I like where the games at.
is ele still going to be "easy" without the free lvb procs from ES. Seems like it'll have to hard cast more now
I wish you would make one of these that's called, "Best classes to reach 2k if you can't play very well."
Supa, time stamps, mon amie, jeso stop people skipping to the end, bro.
Every expansion, frost dk starts out tanky, and then blizz nerfs its defensives every patch until it's squishy again
How is resto shaman super hard? It's the healer that was second easiest for me to learn as a casual next to Disc for that matter. Resto druid i can't seem to do beyond average with.
BM hunt "skill cap comes to use frost trap" damn :D
Shoutout to my favorite warlock player Supatease
fire mage in easy? did I miss something?
Demo locks take amp curse, stopping crits is needed
timestamps
go end video and see list???
@@zayon0170 maybe they want to listen to reasoning??
@@andaroomca just scroll through the vid until he moves the class icon you're interested in. Takes 5 seconds tops, literally. Not really that hard.
@@vispnx arguing against the ease of use that is a timestamp is ridiculous lmao of course it's not hard to skim the video but having a timestamp makes it super easy.
what is the issue with asking for timestamps?
Ist Arms easier then fury?
U do have that parry defensive on it, something fury doesnt have.
The only tier we actually need
What game are u playing? Seriously we dont play the same game
havoc and ele in the same tier is crazy...
I'm convinced Supa has an abusive ex that plays ret pally.
Yeah there’s no way he thinks ret is easy. You’re playing a healer and a dps at the same time. So many utility and defensive CDs for team
You make everything look easy though
We getting the melee PVP tier list next?!
This is helpful for me. Do you mind doing a tier list for PvE as well, because when I’m not in battlegrounds I plan on doing some mythics. And I value your opinion. Thank you
Why arcane is harder than fire?(Serious question)
Because of magic school : dps and sheep are on the same. You have only one block with no cauterisation. And finally, you need to cast to really dps not like frost (ice lance) and fire.
there's one build that I like playing in SS with Fire than literally have no casts, everything instant.
Assassination as hard as outlaw ? My boy never played a rouge in his life…
im affliction main and arena is rough. everyone is on you instantly and warlocks survivability/mobility only goes so far. like im not joking as soon as the gates open they are on you like flies on shit. horrible experience.
warlock is the most unkillable stonewall cannon class what do u mean u literally cant die u just stand still and do infinite dam
@@PackCentral u havent played warlock in arena and it shows
@@hxtel i vs them all the time at high mmr and they are braindead and cant die its so dumb
ELEMENTAL SHAMAN: Marcelian Online has Ele Shaman as SUPER HARD. Who's right?!?!?!?!?!
this is how im picking my class...oh boomkin out, devastation the easiest ever...in
boomkin at hard tier is a joke
Putting ele on super EZ is a huge miss for me. Its super EZ to be mid. But to be a gladiator?
Kicks, purges, grounds, tremors, hexes, statics, stuns.. a lot of responsibility / utility that needs to be used right (perhaps most)
The list is Stupid
Solid video
It’s very beneficial for people to realize that big number tuning doesn’t lead to an easy time always. Mage is such a good example of this. The mage played by a top tier player is absolutely insane, but you put a new player on a mage and they are stomped. I know back in the day we would always talk about skill floor and skill ceiling, and I wish more content creators addressed that.
bro put balance at hard haha
Why is arms so dead lol
Has the armor buff/bug been fixed yet?
Still not fixed sadly
why does everyone think feral is so hard?
i just want lesser buttons to press man
is frost dk not just as hard as sub rogue? in DF s4 only 20 frost dk characters got +2400 in rated arena, and over half of these characters were alts
don't mix difficulty with performance
@@davidcisneros2810 so it’s easy to play but has the lowest win rate in the game. What does that mean? It’s easy to log in?
@@davidcisneros2810 playing frost dk 3v3 vs any meta comp is near impossible to win. I’d say frost dk is pretty difficult to play
@@baorc7015 a bicycle is arguably easier to use than a car, that doesn’t mean that is faster
@@davidcisneros2810 I’m talking about win probability and player representation above 2400 rating .. not modes of transportation. A bike requires physical exertion so arguably not. Why do you think frost dk PvP is easy? To me, easy means how challenging is it to win and climb rating. If all you are saying is that it’s easy to login and lose then the tier list is meaningless and every class should be equally rated
That thumbnail 🤣
I guess Tanks are "easy", not effective or useful but I'll give them easy...
How the hell is Arms warrior harder than Havoc DH? That’s absolute nonsense
completely agreed, DH for me is the easiest melee in the game, and the second easiest spec just behind BM
Classes that have a permanent pet, therefore require proper pet management while playing your actual character are at least medium if not hard... no clue how something like hunter can be put into super ez... doesn't make sense, hunter is super unforgiving. Also mixing healer and dps classes, two pair of shoes, would always seperate them since it's always harder to heal since you have to track your team abilities and shit.
For DPS classes:
EZ: melees that have few cc abilities with a higher cd (35sec - 1min stuns etc.) and do not require you to interact with teammates a lot -> Warrior, DK, DH, Monk
KINDA EZ: melees that require you to interact with your team: RET, ENH, FERAL, BM-Hunter (easiest hunter spec but pet management)
MIDDLE: RANGES without pet that are getting focused a lot: MAGES, SHADOW, ELE, BOOMIE, EVOKER + Hunter (MM+SV) simply because they have a pet to manage and are not forgiving
HARDEST: WARLOCK straight up! they have a pet, get almost always focused and have to cast
Another LEVEL: ROGUE, hard to play, requires you to be the conducter -> you are dictating the game, if you can't you wont be good at the class (Sub is way harder than Assa or Outlaw)
A lot of DH rerolling because it’s too hard now … lol
Did he do assa or did i miss that?
He put it on super hard
Gonna try dev on this exp 😂❤
makes no sense...
an easy class is something like BM. A class which is playable for people with bad hands, concentration issues, lack of experience in general, children.
Resto druid for example is not a class like this.
Personal opinion: outlaw rogue i was more hard, than sub.
Can someone time stamp 😅
I don't think Outlaw has shadow dance any more brother, their damage so far is pure crap, from a scrub 1600 pov
Vid for me😂 41 grandpa
Ret omg ez play press wing stun lock press 1 big hemmer boom death also endless freedoms blessing bubbel haha
What I don't understand is why people are always struggling to pick mains. Are you guys changing mains every season or what ? Is it due to meta chasing ?
yes hence the 500 dks and element shamans in bg blitz.
@@Mattock5656 that's such a sad way to play the game =\ so these are the people on here asking for help to find a main after the FOTM spec is nerfed
@@Anonymoussss0207 they want to be overpowered and dominate with less effort
@@Mattock5656 that explains it 😂 then be toxic asf and look down on anyone not playing a meta spec saying "get good"
ZUGZUG FURY GOOD
@supatease please take shadow off omega hard it is the tankiest caster in the game with multiple schools and all instant cast cc
with no mobility and has to cast their burst to even do damage, gotta feel sorry for them
Completely disagree on the unholy and frost. Way harder to get value out of frost in arena and just damage. Also with these new changes unholy is far easier
lol boomkin hard?
Ele sham, roll your face along the keyboard and collect r1
Frost mage is not hard lol
frost dk and arms are very hard to play . their self healing is almost zero in pvp and every healer spec is medium to omega easy because the healing specs in pvp are op
Tell me you have never played a healer without telling me.
Frost DK Face roll on keyboard do damage during pillar.
Healer ,watch your entire teams health,assist with CC and damage,remove Dr buffs,poisons etc. Effectively manage mana between doing all of that and keep moving well so you aren't a sitting duck.
Frost DK...sit and hope your healer is good. Continue face roll.
Disc super hard and r druid super easy? shit
you think resto druid is the easy class to play? have you lost your mind? druid is one of the hardest classes to play in the game
He plays Resto Deuid to R1 every season i think, i would say he knows better then u.
Watched 15 mins until realized it was not PvE list😂
Arms easy ? OK buddy😅
You can clearly see that he mostly plays with a pocket healer in BG's hahaha. Else he would know that some classes are not that ez.
@@r-ex2945he is multiple r1 on many classes, on the other side u have no clue at all. Rets are super easy, eat it! U suck hardcore if u think otherwise, then the game is not for u, too difficult for your skills fif u dont find Ret super easy. He plays most classes above 2400, i bet u never went past 1800. so dont act like someone who knows stuff, ur just bad af
u turn off ur brain and charge in 1 shot dead ez
Never seen a bad List like this. Really not good
All of them if they prune more abilities like the simpletons request
Lol touch some grass
Here's hoping. Game needs to go back to Legion amounts of buttons.
I love a lot of buttons I hate classes with 3 skills rotation
I thought all classes are easy until I realized I was taking the sheer ridiculous amount of time I’ve spent playing this game for granted.
This video is for newer players. WoW PvP isn’t easy. Between talents, CD’s, abilities, passives, CC, DR, damage rotations, positioning, WoW PvP is much more complex that we PvP veterans realize and take for granted.
@@rosemorningstar5368absolutely beautifully said brother
Bias again... Talking about button bloat, but than call ret easy :p.
You need to watch your build ups on stacks on ret to do real damage. You have multiple buttons which are in certain situation valid, which also makes you have more button bloat. Calling boomkin more difficult than ret is a joke. I play both and I started my boomkin last 2 expansions and mostly play it end of a season and I do way better with druid than my ret paladin every season. I just started Elemental shaman after like 10 years and its way easier than my ret paladin aswell in pvp.
Ret is in top 5 easiest speccs in the game, accept it or not, it is what it is.
Ret is absolutely easy
Dev is top omega EZ? What u smokin....