Why Gatekeeping is on the RISE AGAIN & Can't Be Stopped
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Gatekeeping is making a strong comeback in the worlds of fashion and entertainment. This video delves into the resurgence of this exclusive practice, examining how it shapes trends, influences industry dynamics, and impacts aspiring creatives. Join us as we uncover the power players, dissect the barriers to entry, and explore what this means for the future of these vibrant industries. Don’t miss out on understanding the new rules of access and influence!
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Fashion circles are like cultural cuisines, people take pride in showcasing it cause it's a tangible form of unique expression to your background interests, but easily abused by people who see that expression as the next marketable thing.
Ube for example is a Philippine dessert flavour profile that's blown up (at least in the US). While Filipinos are generally happy to share that flavour profile and generally happy to see it implemented into Western style snacks, it becomes an issue when companies ignore the roots and dilute the flavour to purple sugar, because it looks like the next cutest item to sell and less because they care about Filipino culture.
Fashion unfortunately has taken alt styles like skate, goth, streetwear, etc cause there's money to be made out reselling the aesthetics who's roots have always lies in anti-conformism.
This really needs to happen in most art disciplines unfortunately. You see this happening in film a lot lately, especially on social media. The internet has been an amazing tool for many things, but it's also created a lot of "layman experts" who have not seen, read, or done the research on the subject they're speaking on, and it's creating this rise in "anti-intellectualism" which is really sad to see.
I left a response in a different comment, but you’re totally right. Randoms expect to be spoonfed information nowadays
Facts!!! I read tons of books on various things and when it comes time to offer something to the conversation the "Google layman" people hardly can stand. They have no legit reason for making surface level statements lol.
And they’re also more respected than experts
Everything good is ruined when the gates open to everyone
gatekeeping should of came back 4 years ago
*should have
At the same time, we're all human beings, so there's bound to be shared interests and hobbies. As long as there's a genuine love, I don't see a problem with it.
Some think “4 years ago” was designed to do that.
“LV fans” aren’t gonna defend LV like in your comment thread bit. At least the ones i know, they’re in it for the status and don’t actually give a flying f about LV. Would jump ship in a heartbeat if another brand was more prestigious.
Gatekeeping is necessary. Our lack of gatekeeping is the reason why we’re treated like a guest in Country, Rock n Roll & jazz music.
Protecting culture went out the window living in America. Its a melting pot for a reason. Less division more unity
@@LoliciousXD "a melting pot"?? isn't the biggest political issue this election not immigration? didn't white America vote in Trump - a self proclaimed dictator, to avoid this melting pot? remember the blind guy from get out who doesnt see race and claimed he only wanted chris's eyes because of his perspective? - his racism was the worst.
Most of the time when I hear people talking about gatekeeping it's not even the true definition. It's people not wanting to put forth any type of research or effort towards finding, or learning about something. I never get why people spend so much time telling someone else they "aren't unique" just to try to be, or dress like them. I see this soo much online. Almost anything can be searched for with google, but people try to burn others at the stake if they dont give a rundown of everything they have on head to toe. If that person isn't unique why does it matter if they gatekeep? I think its perfectly fine for people to keep details about their garments to themselves. Is it a serious matter? No. Are folks entitled to information about someone's personal style? Also no.
So true man I love this comment. I've learned to limit my interaction with those people. Well it's more of I just dgaf anymore. Same people telling me I'm contrarian hipster who doesn't like anything popular, yet I wear Jordans... Then they don't like Jordans think they aren't fashionable because they are popular...
.. huh? I just know what I like, buy and wear whatever however I want. I got sick of people projecting and telling me what is or isn't cool.
I just recently saw an interview, “it’s just clothes” - Alexander McQueen
I am a passionate gatekeeper now, I think they’re needed, because purely because you’ve gotta protect what you love. Also Team Kendrick
I fully support being a gatekeeper nowadays, too much things I liked have become watered down and completely ruined
Typical.
Nah
But what if, one day you find out that they are exactly like us, will you blame Kendrick for leading you down the wrong path?
People expect to be spoonfed information and just bounce away from the community. Need to see some actual effort put in by some new comers by asking questions the right way. I.e. “I tried to search for ____ and saw ___ and ____. Could anyone please correct me?”
There is an equilibrium. As hobbies/activities get diluted by the casual base, there is a necessary reaction from more hardcore bases to rehydrate the original passion/creativity/ideas that made the concept interesting/avant garde in the first place.
You need gatekeeping to an extend. Look at the Art World, a stranger put a pineapple on a glass and people think its a great art.
Meanwhile a poor Austrian student got rejected from his favorite art school in Vienna
Idk if gatekeeping is the right word for it, but I'm very much pro tiered entrance into things.
Like ya, have a "everyone welcome" mentality for the outer most section of a subculture, but you don't get the keys to the kingdom there. That's just a taste, you gotta show your interest and appreciation runs deeper, and that you _respect_ what that culture is all about so you don't abuse it. Only then do you get brought in a bit more, see a bit more, experience a bit more. Until you get to the point you're FULLY immersed in the culture. Ideally each tiered level would prevent those who aren't deserving of access to the next tier, so as not to ruin the vibe for the more dedicated. Knowing where and when to stay in your lane of appreciation, and recognizing you don't need to go full tilt into the nucleus tier of it if you aren't really about that, and then trying to CHANGE what it is just because you don't relate to the inner most tier.
How you'd go about implementing that I have no idea, or if that's even possible, but on paper that feels like the way to do it
The problem is, the people gatekeeping don’t deserve to be the arbiters of truth and authenticity. Like, you gatekeeping people who are better than you are.
I was anti-gatekeeper when I was younger, but have strongly grown toward at least a healthy bit of gatekeeping being necessary. The push for every interest to be more mainstream has forced those of us into those things to become more and more niche in what we enjoy.
It's cool, in a way, to create further spaces for people like yourself to thrive, but it can also be annoying (or worse) to feel like an alien or to feel ostracized in the community you love.
Healthy gatekeeping is important. And we have ways to deflect the people just visiting. I don't tell anyone about my sneaker channel, I'd rather they find it through a video about a kick they were looking up. To find what I put out you obviously have to be in to sneakers. Does that mean less views and subs? Yep. But my audience stays genuine, pure, and not fickle.
I´ve always been pro gatekeeping. It´s just like you said. As soon as something or someone becomes mainstream they dilute that one aspect that makes it special so it becomes easily palatable to everyone and I end up losing interest.
Tha brings also a poor quality in production and oversaturation. Now everyone else is also trying to join in the profits and that thing is all you see with every turning of a corner. If we´re talking about a community/sense of self situation...it´s wrecked. Because now you don´t belong to anything and you still don´t belong to the community you rejected or has rejected you.
Gatekeeping doesn´t mean that others can´t join in. It means protecting its soul. Google is free and readily available. Let the newcomers do the necessary work.
It’s not like the 2012 where the social fashion community wasn’t up yet but it’s huge now even very close to those that aren’t intrigued by it
2 vids within 24 hours? you love to see it!
Love how you broke this down, very well said.
I noticed this trend of needing to gatekeep from two communities: small business and dating groups. Quality of information and questions are low-quality, basic, and repeated ad-nauseam when it’s a free group; newbies don’t know how to use the searchbar.
However, once there’s a monetary barrier setup (i.e. mastermind groups), the participants and quality of discussions become more sophisticated and higher quality.
Gatekeeping, whether via information or financial is needed to have a stronger community for certain niches. I agree with fashion needing gatekeeping wholeheartedly
Lol 😂 Love how you just created a pseudo beef between Rick and LV
Finally, he admits @ 8:51 that he's rooting for Kendrick!
unfortunately most gatekeepers (or at least the most vocal ones) these days don't actually care about maintaining the history and heritage of a brand, piece, etc. they just do it because they're pretentious and dont even understand when someone genuinely wants to learn for the sake of learning, instead of abusing the knowledge.
it's also worth noting how context dependent gatekeeping is, like theres a huge difference between gatekeeping a brand to preserve its heritage and consumer base or prevent prices from skyrocketing due to resellers versus gatekeeping outside of brands, like people who gatekeep entire hairstyles and traditional clothing based on where youre from (the latter being pretty harmful)
Blessed video, u explain things so well
Oh I’ve been gatekeeping for years now. It’s been outstanding
As an anti-gatekeeper this was one of my favorite uploads. I grew up loving Yohji Yamamoto since i was a kid. Along with Initial D and Martial Arts/Tricking and hardcore/metalcore music. And based alot of my style on these hobbies of mine growing up. During high school the likes of Paul Fuentebella would more than likely make fun of me with his bro friends about my style. And now that alot of these things have popularized in recent years, i think he has collected efforts into kicking me out of all my hobbies. Avant garde fashion being the finale for him. Just to save his brand as a youtuber.... Im disabled now but still try to enjoy my hobbies but im certain the likes of Paul Fuentebella has to diffuse my existence in these communities to better protect his branding. Which is causing me to self harm.
lol and people was mad on my comment on the sneaker video because i was gatekeeping let’s see what they have to say now
My favorite video yet. 1000% agree.
Star Wars , Warhammer 40k, Soulslike vidya games, Fashion, Anime, unite in keeping tourists out.
A business is a business, whether Ric Owens or LV. Olive Garden or Noma. They all just watch the bottom line and want to rake in the dollars.
A good example of gatekeeping is a drivers license, firearm license etc. I believe in openess and transparency as much as anybody but you need to also have standards. The info can be out there for people to learn but you dont let them in to the club, dont let them drive ane dont allow them to purchase a firearm.
My dude 🤝
It's crazy how well of an analogy Kenny V. Drake is to your point. Really well said!
It was easier to be part of something unique because there were loads of options in Street wear clothing but now it feels like it only tge big labels making a splash .
Th problem with gatekeeping is that it's a power and that power corrupts
Gatekeeping is necessary
This is so true. This is why people don't understand that they're just pandering. To the same audience, they don't think Kendrick. Does the same things business wise as drake, They're crazy Kendrick knows how to pander. Trust me it's obvious.
Gatekeep so much that the gated person has to educate themselves so much that they become the gatekeepers
shout to reggie, i like the comparism analysist
good
I do believe than the mainstream fashion industry is gatekeeping its French and other European cultures for themselves. I think it is ok. I do not believe that people who are not from or descend from European cultures should be forced to wear only that clothing because clothing is for everyone. I am happy there are African and African American designers of their own brands as well as other people of color so all people can have a choice.
Passionate gatekeeper esp in fashion. It takes alot of skills (additional methods too)
Crazy I’ve been on this for a min cause it’s a lot of people on waves and wagons of trendy.
Gatekeeping has been on a rise since I’ve been alive.
HOW?? WHEN THERE IS SOCIAL MEDIA
Why are you still on social media ? 😉
I think some of this in the fault of media being the default communication medium. It is hard to zip through a book on a topic the way people do with videos skipping nuance. Also, full detailed tidy context often is not present in videos unless it is a course or lecture.
Proverbial gatekeeper here lol. Im a hater to those who dont know why they like something.
Most people don't know and that is the problem. What bothers me is I encourage people to search for their own style and buy things they like but then they won't want any deeper discussion in fashion or anything. It's just a shallow status or clout chase and they don't want to be part of or learn about the culture but just use it for appearances..
People in the comments are like "I've been gatekepping this and that" ... gatekepping what? from whom? who cares about what you wear about or what u watch?
I love gatekeeping
In a world full of trend seeking copycats, gatekeeping keeps the trade alive.
Great video
Biggest Gatekeeper in fashion talking about gatekeeping seems on brand. . .hows them nb? or did you switch to shox already?
There was a reason people gate kept their cultures.
Lol at having Kendrick in the thumbnail.
Gatekeeping is the result of people wanting to be different, so they see it as a threat when people inevitably jump onto whatever trend or style they're rocking with. At some point, we need to recognize that we live in the same society, so there's bound to be shared interests.
Gatekeepers: you cant like that
Also gatekeepers: you cant like this
lol you got gatekeepers completely wrong
gatekeppers: if you like the thing get immersed in the culture first instead of wearing it as a costume
They NPCs a skittle squad into ish just to mess it up. Reason gate keeping is picking up
LV sold out ages ago, been like that for a cool couple decades now
@reggiecasual content is causally creative‼️
Jeezos!
Channel looks great amigo
First of all, I still think gatekeeping is uncool. Being elitist is never cool. Coming from unpivileged third world country and trying to learning as much I can do from internet is the only way I keep up with the zeitgeist. I hate being special because I know something that the other people do not, I feel special if I could share it anyway. Feeding your own ego is never been a way in Eastern philosophy, I have learnt to let go since I was a kid. Maybe gatekeeping is such a Western way of thinking, I dunno.
Many gatekeepers sold out for money and popularity.
Who are we gatekeeping to?
Gatekeeping is stupid, if you want to keep the integrity of the subject then… teach, take the time to add to the culture and stop alienating people. Everybody starts somewhere, help each other and make the community better. Get off your high horse and push culture FORWARD.
This is true but an unrealistic expectation. Not everyone wants to be taught and the obvious happens when things balloon into popularity; it gets picked up by the corporate machine that have no interest in pushing culture forward.
@@THECASUALco everybody has that decision to make, make your own. Simple as that stop worrying about what other people say or do. Create an opinion before subscribing to one. You can only lead yourself, so why not lead yourself in the best possible way.
Mr. Casual, I called you a gatekeeper in the past and you actually responded. Maybe now you realize it was not a negative comment but instead just a fact and necessity. Fashion requires gate keeping otherwise there isn't anything unique from onr movement, circle, group etc. to another. Ive been a well documented drake hater since his first album. Kendrick out here having us all hide our bibles.
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Without GATEKEEPERS🤔 or VULTURE EXCLUSION😱: Rap has become a CIRCUS🤯. What is a circus without a clown🤡? Cue the intro😳: Drake👀is THE BIGGEST CLOWN😂..!
Yeah. You a Drake Stan.
Not even in the slightest. I have NO records, no streams, I don’t even know dudes songs. I live in a completely different country that doesn’t have him on the radio 24/7. AND full disclosure I’m from LA. There’s no way I’d show my face back home if I was.
shouldve never stopped lol everything aint for everyone to kno its simple
Paul Fuentebella trying to participate in the avant garde aesthetic when he made fun of me in high school for loving that shit when I was a kid..Along with other popularizing thing. I'm certain.
Both Kendrick and Drake overrated tho
Based.
Yes both mid
The ai art? Bro...nah...
What up bro? This is SiG dude. I have a LOOOOOT talk to u about and a LOT of questions. But as usual; probably will get NO response. And if that’s the case; have fun with ur life🤷🏾♂️
as if Kendrick isn't mainstream TikTok "rap"
Rick …. Corny…. LV…. Corny.
These are just cloths. It’s not good for anyone to think & analyse this much about such trivial things. ‘Gatekeeping’ sounds great but it’s previewed as elitist and a narcissistic defence for someone who is ultimately quite threatened about being genetic.
Don't worry,we know you fashion channels always gatekeep and save the best for yourselves,one more reason to unfollow y;all lol
Don’t try n put hiphop music in with fashion doesn’t work when they don’t push fashion themselves
reggie just buy stuff it aint that deep. unless you're sewing your own unique one off garments you arent unique, no brand makes you unique or is saying anything meaningful other than make my pockets fatter. even the small indie designer putting out small collections on a yearly basis are beneath it all trying to make a living. Regardless once you make more than one garment it is no longer unique. "oh wow i'm so deep and unique cause i wear a shirt that only 50 of were made tee hee" get that weak shit out of here.
That's more streetwear shit. You aren't keeping in mind the intellectual property of the brand and the entire industrial complex it takes that employs and supports craftsmen and administrators to create such a thing. You speak as if you never had to provide for a community with your hands.
If this was the 80's the fashion elites would call you uneducated.
Thank you for speaking this, I feel you
Rick Owen's is a weirdo like most these designers. On the occult side of the game..gotta see through all this over priced bs. Balenciaga sus types