The Landings At ANZAC Cove And Suvla Bay 1915 I THE GREAT WAR On The Road
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2018
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Indy and our guide Can Balcioglu explore the northern landings sites of Gallipoli where the Australian and New Zealand Army Corps (ANZAC) landed in 1915.
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Indy is pointing at the Cape Helles video in the end of this episode. Unfortunately, the Cape Helles video is still in the editing room. But it will probably be available this Saturday.
The Great War ok
The Great War
How many Brits do you need to change a light bulb?
Only one, to ask America for help.
How many men does it take to tell Conrad to keep quiet
take your time if it means quality content like this video
Ignorance...
I love how turkey remembers and honours both soldiers of the anzacs and their own soldiers who died, it show how much respect they have for life and the enemy at the time.
They don't bro, trust me
@@MK-wt2sp yeah just like that.
They don't bro
source: trust me
So correct - the often quoted speech of Ataturk still brings tears to the eyes of many Australians and New Zealanders.
@@michaelhayden5264Ataturk was responsible for killing thousands of Australians at Gallipoli. Your tears should have be for those lost men. Don’t be so sentimental about such things.
Most armies do that and Turkey is guilty of genocide!
"Men, I'm not asking you to fight; I'm asking you to die."
Gives me chills just thinking that that's what soldiers heard from their commanding officer.
That famous command was given on the first day of the landings. The regiment finished all its ammo was ordered to fix bayonets first. Then this command was given... And it stopped the advancing Allies army. .
@@dirensare exactly...so horrific to be honest
This is Mustafa Kemal Pasha sentence to his soldiers, the real hero and the only victorious commandant of the battle of Gallipoli ( Çanakkale, to pronounce Tchanakkale)
Incredible speaker. Very passionate and knowledgeable about the history and human side of the battles. Excellent video guy's! Indy, great questions also.
11:59 "Very very strong friendship between the Turks and Australians and New Zealanders." Now that's something you rarely hear after a war
Aaron H That doesn't make sense because the anzac were fighting the ottomans anyway in the sinai campaign and plus the ottomans were allied with Germany so it doesn't matter.
Unlike enemy combatants in following wars Turkish veterans who migrated to Australia were welcomed into the Returned Servicemen’s League.
As a Turkish man Australia and New Zealand is seen as brother/sister nation only other country who is not relatives but seen as brother/sister nation by turks are South Koreans.
Now I don't know how new Zealanders or Australians think about us. But when I visited gallipoli we came across some Australians and had a nice chat
Love from Turkey :)
In the Korean War, Turkish and Australian forces were stationed alongside each other. They were preparing a massive ANZAC day commemoration together when they had to deal with the Chinese instead. Turkish and ANZAC forces didn't hate each other, but simply understood that they were both doing what they were there to do.
Might have been a different outcome if the campaign continued to the point where one of the sides started using gas
Love the Turkish guy
Agree Turkish historian is awesome.
i agree, its great to have it from two perspectives
In the thumbnail Indy looks like he's gonna make me an offer I cant refuse
and he has been doing that three times a week for a few years now
The Great War my favorite thumbnail by far is the one with Ralf Raths at the Munster Panzermuseum. That true brolove between them... ❤️😀
The Great War Flo you're hilarious bro :p
Well himself and flo are clearly offering you a brand new vid
Why would you refuse a new Great War vid
Indy and everyone at TGW and especially John. Thank you so much for the way you brought this episode to us. My Aussie grandfather was in the Dardanelles. Managed to get himself blown up at We think was Suvla Bay. Ended up in Alex then shipped to France he and his 3 brothers survived the duration of the war. I cried at those words at the end. One day I will pay my respects there to those on both sides who didn’t get home. Take care fellas 🇨🇮 🇦🇺 🇹🇷
Çamaşır Suyu sorry man misheard 👍🍀
I keep making the same mistake - sounds like John to me as well ;)
Paddy Dunne :DD
Çamaşır Suyu anyway you did a great job
Makes me think of the Irish folk song "The Foggy Dew"...
My great Grandfather fought at Gallipoli for the Lancashire Fusiliers, he was injured and hospitalised four seperate times in the Gallipoli campaign alone, being hit in the hand by a bullet on one occasion. He then went onto win a Military medal for taking out a German machine gun position at paschendale in 1917. After the war he broke his medal in half.
We say no to pay to win may he rest in peace, like all soldiers who fought in the Great war.
Why did your great grandfather break his medal? Was it because of the gruels of war?
kadir yildirim my toughts exactly. yeah he broke it because he hated the war he was a soldier before the war in india and fought in most of the western allies major battles during ww1, it must of taken a great toll on him. There's a rumour he refused to fight and led a sort of small mutiny on the british lines in 1918 but due to his distinguished battle records they didn't hang him and refused to court Marshall him afterwards.
"fought in every one of the western allies major battles during ww1"?
Bullshit much?
We say no to pay to win my Grandfather was awarded the DCM after the award ceremony which he was forced to attend he threw his medal into the gutter!One of his mates picked it up. You can actually see the damage on the medal where it struck the pavement.
He probably fought in the same trenches as my grandfather uncle, he was in the 59th AIF. One of the perks being an Australian after the Boer war was Australian soldiers lives weren't in the hands of a British Court Marshall anymore.
this is the first time I heard anyone talking about Indians role in Gallipoli as even the modern Indian government seems to have forgotten about the sacrifice made during the campaign, I would urge with earnest request if the channel could elaborate the role of Indians during the Gallipoli campaign in out of the trench episode so that we the modern generation could pass it. thank you very much for reminding we Indians that our ancestors also fought in the great war
It may interest you to know that when i was in school the presence of the Indian army at Gallipoli was taught to school children in New Zealand,not extensively,but they were mentioned. The first NZ soldier to die in combat in ww1 was killed in Egypt before the Gallipoli campain,he was Private William Ham and he was killed when the Ottomans attacked across the suez cannal in a attempt to capture the west bank.After driving off the attackers in their area, Private Ham and his platoon were shifting to support the troops on their right flank, who were under artillery fire and had bore the worst of the attack, a bullet ricoheted off has riffle barrel,passed through his neck and shattered his spine. The unit they were trying to help was the the 22nd infantry brigade of the Indian army.And they deserve to be remembered.
i agree we need more information on this.
The Atatürk quote reminds me of another heartbreaking quote from a different On The Road. It was in a small village, concerning a pilot who perished in a crash, maybe? The village put up a plaque that said something like, "we placed him here [in our town cemetery] with those we loved the most."
wow yes so dignified, we have alot to learn from that
As an Australian and former member of Defence our military history means a lot to me. What I love about this part of our history is that Australian New Zealand and Turkey have all come together to honour and respect each other as former foes and now friends. The thought that all of the fallen are now sons together regardless of Nationality is the way it should be.
I lost 3 family members at Chunuk bair on Aug 8th. 2 were from the same family, 1st cousins to each other. My Great Great great uncle survived the landing although wounded, survived Chunuk Bair wounded again, evacuated and 6months later taken POW in the Sinai with another cousin who died of disease. My uncle survived and was repatriated in 1919 and died in 1964.
A Chapman My great great great grandfather fought at the battle of lone pine but got to go home afterwards because he had something wrong with his stomach, (I don't remember exactly what) but none of his brothers came back from the war. One died at Gallipoli and the other three died at Pachendale. I think that's how you spell it.
I'm from Canada. My friend from New Zealand recently told me there is a NZ movie about Chunuk Bair.
"Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives ... You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side here in this country of ours ... You, the mothers who sent their sons from faraway countries, wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well." - Mustafa Kemal Ataturk
Also, please do a piece on one of Australia's great soldiers. A man who went to war with no gun: John Simpson Kirkpatrick.
John sounds like every 3rd Soviet soldier!
Shout out to Arthur Farley. My mum's dad. Landed as part of the British landings at Suvla Bay. Badly injured, lost an eye. Survived. Returned to UK via Malta. Married my gran. Had 9 children one of whom was my mum. I wouldn't be here without him ❤
7:00 and also a decent number of Bosniaks on the Ottoman side.
Hi Lucy, Can Balcioglu was a guide that appeared on The Great War on the road videos when they went to Gallipoli. He was extremely knowledgable and it was fascinating to get the Ottoman perspective.
Newfoundlander shout out appreciated! We didn't get mowed down at this one. Indie covered our massacre at Beaumont Hamel in a previous episode. Turkey looks beautiful. Great collaboration b'ys. Keep up the great work Great War Team!
my Newfie grandmother lost one uncle at Cape Helles, and another at Beaumont Hamel
Just found this episode (3 years late). I want to Anzac Cove in 2005 with an Aussie friend and it was...powerful. I had grown up with the Gallipoli movie. I had always thought it was a near thing (success) but after visiting don't think it was possible (unless the naval attack had been forced before the invasion). But must say the Turkish citizens who I met, some visiting the battlefields for their first time made me smile. What your friend says about how this awful thing began a friendship that had the seeds laid in the temporary armistice has continued today. It shouldn't take Wars to build friendships but friendships that come from war at least make the sacrifice mean something. Thank you to all the Turkish citizens who help make it a place of pilgrimage today.
I went to Gallipoli on a school trip when i was about 14. In that small graveyard away from the cenotaph there was a gravestone with my exact name on it. It was one of the most uncanny moments of my life. Particularly given that on that side of the family about 7 people died there (this wasn't one of them). And on the other side my great uncle, who's still alive, father and and his two brothers all went to Gallipoli and survived the whole thing, they're not sure if this is a record but it was so rare my uncle and aunt got invited to the centenary.
My great grandfather, Private Eugene Tuite 11th Battalion, was part of the original landings on 25 April. He was killed at the battle of Lone Pine About August 6th. He was from Sydney but signed up in Western Australia under the name of Edward Hanlon. Often I have seen his name (Tuite) at the Canberra War Memorial. About 18 months ago I was in Perth Western Australia and went up to Kings Park. I found the memorial to the 11th. I searched for my great grandfather's name but couldn't find it, then that ah hah moment and I searched and found him under Hanlon. Very different times, couldn't do that these days. Thanks for the excellent video lads. Much respect to all our boys, Aussies, Kiwis, Indians, Poms, Irish, Newfoundlanders and of course our excellent enemy, at that time but no more, the Turks. What a great man Ataturk was. The 11th was the battalion in that iconic photo of the Diggers sitting on the side of one of the pyramids. Excellent video lads, really really informative, told with great passion.
OUTSTANDING clip Indy, Can and all TGW crew! Well done! Not just re-hashing the same info we've heard a thousand times but a great conversation between the two of you. I could have listened to the two of you talking about the campaign at ANZAC for a few more hours (preferably over a few beers!) but this clip will have to do ;)
Can is 100% correct in that Turkey, Australia and New Zealand (the Kiwi's get upset if you forget to mention them!) do indeed share a unique bond that is pretty uncommon in history. One that continues to today and hopefully well into all of our countries futures.
The age of Chivalry died with the great Ataturk in 1938 as anyone acquainted with the horrors of WW2 would surely know. It's almost inconceivable to even imagine someone saying in those times, from the bottom of his heart, in his tribute to the Anzacs who fought in Gallipoli, and in such tempestuous and tumultuous times as in the mid 30's when Europe was being dragged into yet another war of attrition. Even as a child, this is the one speech of Ataturk that still brings tears to my eyes:
"Those heroes that shed their blood
And lost their lives...
You are now lying in the soil of a friendly Country.
Therefore rest in peace.
There is no difference between the Johnnies
And the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side
Here in this country of ours...
You, the mothers,
Who sent their sons from far away countries
Wipe away your tears,
Your sons are now lying in our bosom
And are in peace
After having lost their lives on this land
They have become our sons as well."
May all those young, brave souls who lost their lives; no matter what their nationality, rest forever in piece...
I'm not crying, there is something in my eyes
Chivalry already died in 1914, if it was not long dead already before that.
@@espiao7343 Too many onions in the Turkish food.
shooting a man while his pants are down well that's just not cricket
Wibble.
Don't excite him!!!
fat chance
Taking a photo of a man while pooping bear in mind in 1918 not many people had photos takin off themselves
Thanks. I really want to go to Gallipoli.
You absolutely should. I was fortunate to go to the Anzac commemorations this year and it was amazing, humbling and eye opening. If you ever have the opportunity make sure you take it.
I'll be there in a couple of weeks, gonna visit a Wedding ant then I will go to kap helles
I've been there three times from the UK. The third time I managed to see the Suvla Bay area and Cape Helles as well as the standard tour to Anzac Cove. I went there in late October when it wasn't too cold.
Fantastic exploration of this theatre. BTW wonderful country, never been to that part of Turkey - nor Istanbul but to Anatalya and Cappadocia truly amazing.
...and while the multicultural aspects of both armies didn't surprise me I had no idea Newfoundlanders were there as well. As a Canadian we never learnt about that...Newfoundlanders and others from what was then the Dominion of Canada in France sure but not in Gallipoli.
Can is as cool af... Very well spoken and truly knows his history!
220 likes and not a single dislike...I have to stop a minute and cherish that rarest of moments of harmony on youtube. Great video by the way, you two really make history come alive!
I like Indy, he is a cool and charismatic guy, could listen to him for hours.
That's exactly what I've been doing the last three years!
I appreciate very much the accuracy of the framing of the landscape nowadays and the same landscape shown in the 103 years old photos of Ari Burnu Sphinx 5:18 and Suvla bay 12:18 . Cheers to the directors of photography of TGW Toni Steller, Julian Zahn !
This is very interesting to hear this story from the Ottoman prospective. Most often all we read or hear is from the British view point. Great job as always.
Seeing the actual positions of the Ottomans make me think how Churchill ever recovered after this massive mistake.
Well, recall Churchill was only the primary architect of the naval aspects of the first attempt to break through the Dardanelles. He had little to no say in the conduct of the land campaign.
He had strong political connections and his family had long been part of the British elite. His political faction (which includes Edward Grey) practically blackmailed parliament into joining the war -- they threatened to resign from their positions, believed then enough to destabilize Britain in a time of world crisis. Throw in propaganda and no wonder this politician made a comeback. He's nothing more than a Giuliani back in September 2001. And no, I don't even give him credit for his Nobel Prize.
Churchill had never intended to land infantry. He was only interested in the initial plan, consisting of a naval attack. He was in fact highly opposed to landing infantry.
just colonials: expendable. repeated the dose in ww2 at singapore. churchill was responsible for the deaths of more australians than any other man in history, and yet he's remembered as a hero, not a mass murderer.
from my limited knowledge, Churchill was a gambler, had this worked the Ottoman empire would have fallen, the way to supply Russian whites would be open. He tried something similar during WWII with the Italian campaign. Problem with elaborate plans is that they require everything to work perfectly and in war nothing works perfectly - Gallipoli and Market Garden are perfect example of hubris of "great military minds".
My great uncle fought in Gallipoli with the ANZAC’s (New Zealand) he was wounded and lost his arm in one of the offensives.
I'm a big fan of Mr. Balcioglu!
This is a really remarkable episode. It really helps to see it in its current condition to get a better understanding of the size and scale of the battlefield.
Can has awesome tattoos.
Spectacular episodes and great commentary from Indy and Can!
Great episode! Lots of really good insight into this battle.
As an Australian, we are still taught more about Gallipoli than about any other battle even today, and some of my mates who've gone to Turkey say the locals still treat you nicer if you say you're an Aussie.
A friend of my parents went on a battlefield tour during armistice day on the western front in France, he has a British accent even though Australian, phoned up to book a room to stay at and was told "we are full booked out", said he was Australia and he replied "we will get you a room" lol
The locals treat you nice even if you're not Australian
My great grandmother's brothers (all but 1 fought at Gallipoli). The 4th brother was rejected from enlisting in 1914 because he had a lazy eye. All of his brothers survived the Gallipoli and the Western Front. He enlisted in late 1915 after the army relaxed its requirements and died in France in 1916.
One of your best-ofs ! A very instructive and enlightening episode. Indy and Can you are captivating !
Indy, Can, what a great episode. You guys are cool. Thanks all you guys at The Great War for these excellent serials.
This is one of the few events in history where two nations did battle, and the result was a strengthening of ties between them.
It's beautiful how both nations have memorialized each other, with a Memorial to Ataturk in directly opposite our National War Memorial, and the renaming of the original landing areas to Anzac Cove
I don't think those brave Turks defending their homelands had any idea how important they would be to forming the national identity of Australia.
Indy, Can makes a very effective sidekick! Thanks, both!
Great guide, knowledge and respect.
Gallipoli was on the AQA History GCSE exam today and your videos really helped so thanks to the "The Great War" team
I appreciate hearing history from both sides. Thanks
Love this guy, great job Indy (& co)! Great video!
Imagine what the military would tell the families of soldiers who died of dysentery. "He was a hero because he literally crapped himself to death before his first battle. You must be proud!"
Gravijta lol
They used the term "wastage" for people killed or incapacitated by reasons other than enemy action. An accurate, but rather heartless term.
Gallipoli (the movie) kinda drives home that dying in battle was equally pointless and empty.
Wastage included people killed by harassing fire and skrimishes..
If you died outside of a major battle basicaly.
Should I be ashamed for laughing at this hard?
Great channel. Very informative and entertaining. Working my way though all of your content.
People often forget that in the Gallipoli campaign there were more British and Irish casualties than ANZAC, French, Indian and Newfoundlander combined.
Oh dear, you'll get into trouble from our Antipodean friends for that.
Actually, although you are correct, Gallipoli is a coming of age moment for New Zealand and Australia in the same way that Messines is for Canada. It was a sideshow, which is why the British tend to ignore it, but for New Zealand and Australia it was their first major battle. Unfortunately they tend to forget that Gallipoli was actually a bit of a doddle compared to what ANZAC did on the Western Front.
I found the 1985 mini series ANZACs on UA-cam last month and was pleasantly surprised to find that it was mainly concerned with the Western Front.
No, as an Aussie I can tell you we 'didn't forget' or 'ignore the Poms' etc We all remember our own countrymen that fought in our various campaigns. I think all of your misconceptions stem from the fact that its your own countries that don't commemorate your own fallen in these campaigns like we do. ANZAC Day and the Gallipoli Campaign is a significant part of our history, a foundation block right at the beggining of our relatively short history, to the British Empire on whole - its a minor sideshow, a footnote to other bigger events across a far wider time period.
We know full well that troops from all over the world fought and died beside us at Gallipoli and a lot of other places all over the world, usually in far greater numbers than our own. We acknowledge them on our national day of commemoration, but it is 'our' day if you will, so of course our focus is on our servicemen and women in telling those stories.
Maybe turn your attention to your own Government, Veterans Organisations, Education and society in general who have ignored these men and their sacrifice for so long and organise your own commemorations to honour them appropriately. Plenty of Aussies and kiwi's would support you in your endeavours.
ANZACs is based on the 8th Battalion. Some of the characters are fictitious or made up of several actual people, but the actual battalion was at all those actions though the miniseries, both in Gallipolli and the Western front.
It’s sad that those British war veterans would be shooting at the family members of the Irish who fought along side them
Annnnnnd your point is? I don’t think anyone forgets, except about the Indians, of which you’ve proven my point by leaving them out.
England might have lost more soldiers but it wasn’t their first fight as a nation, for Australian’s and New Zealander’s it was their respective nation’s christening by blood. They were no longer just colonials or subjects of the crown, they were their own nations with their own identities, which to this day are still some of the core foundations of said nations identities.
My Great Grand father fought at this location, survived and then fought in France. He was extremely lucky to survive ,,,, as am I !
amazing, thank you so much guys
Love your work indy. We must continue to honour these men
wonderful video, learnt so much
excellent series of episodes
Hey this was excellent. I appreciate this guys passion and his great English. Really a great watch! We got more content from this guy?
Great episode by Indy & crew showing both sides of the campaign. I know this might be a long shot Indy but it would be great for you to visit the Australian War Memorial in Canberra. I've been there many times & I'm still in awe.
I keep telling them they need to come down and visit the AWM ;)
Love this amazing episode
Great episode!
10/10. Very Cool. Would watch again.
Cool presentation.. well done gentlemen
Thanks TGW team, another great video
great episode...super interesting
Great as always
great one
top quality as always :). Have you considered making another channel regarding ww2?
Thanks for posting. I visited the battlefield in 2001.
Very informative.
Since you are in Turkey, will you talk about the short conflict that happened between France and Turkey because of the Sykes-Picot Agreement
after WW1 ?
A most interesting episode indeed!
Very informative.
Amazing channel .
Great video
Teşekkürler Can!
Mr. Balcioglu does a great job and I hope to see more of him but Friendly Food must be a new concept in warfare... ;-)
Actually main exchange material was probably cigarette during armistice since both side didn't have much of food. Who knows maybe they thought "come on boys let's give all our cigarettes to the enemy and let's hope they die of cirrhosis..." :)
A wonderfully informative video. A find the friendship the Australian n Turkish soldiers developed to be really interesting. Great job.
The NZ Wellington regiment held the heights for two days until relieved. Australian World War I war correspondent and historian Charles Bean was present when the remains of the Wellington Infantry reported to Headquarters after coming off Chunuk Bair: "Of the 760 of the Wellington Infantry Battalion who had captured the height that morning, there came out only 70 unwounded or slightly wounded men. Throughout that day not one had dreamed of leaving his post. Their uniforms were torn, their knees broken. They had no water since the morning; they could only talk in whispers; their eyes were sunken; their knees trembled; some broke down and cried like children." But the Turks never pushed them off the heights.
The channel leading into Princess Royal Harbour, the harbour from which the Australian ships left Western Australia for the Middle East, is named Ataturk Channel.
Nice sentiment at the end there.
Amazing
I keep wondering how you best the last best episode … such a story
Top stuff guys
Is John a tour guide? Would love to go on a tour with him. He's very knowledgeable and as a dumb Aussie who only speaks English his English is great.
Can müthişsin 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Süper ikili :)
My great great great uncle is buried at lone pine.
I've only seen one movie about Chunuk Bair and i been look for copy of it for years.
words at the end.. I cried a little.
I think some clarity is needed here around the Suvla Bay operations. The major part of the August offensive was the attack out of Anzac to capture Sari Bair and eventually sever the peninsula. The landing at Suvla was a late addition designed to secure a base for winter operations.
The suggestion here is that Suvla was the main offensive, and the breakout from Anzac a diversion, when in fact the opposite is true.
96 Australian and New Zealand nurses were sent to Lemnos Island (Greek) to set up a tent hospital for the injured delivered by sea. Lemnos is 60km to Gallipoli. When they arrived, the island was barren.
Pippa. To your statement, So what?
The buttons on Indy's vest are close to the bursting point.
this reminds me when are we getting the John Monash 'Who Did What In WW1'?
take a guess
The Great War Would it be 8th of August by any chance?
If it's not on 8 aug I will be disappointed
The Pottstick looking forward to this one :D
been asking that for at least a year
Respect those who fought bravely
Will you be visiting Salonica and the Macedonian front as well?
Such a beautiful stretch of coast that has seen such horror.
Coast
I've meet a few australians here, in the North of Spain, and they were great people; all the soldiers deserve respect.
No field kitchens? That is mind blowing
Huzzah! Return of the Can!
My great grandfather died Hamilton latchford of 1st Wellington attachment
Respect
I was at the locations being described, in Nov 2021. Watching this narrative definitely aided my understanding of this theater of the war. At Lone Pine cemetery, my guide pointed out a specific marker of a young man who had two names. One was the name he enlisted under (false name) and his actual name. He gave a false name because he had enlisted underage. I believe he was sixteen and dead at seventeen.