Whatever your opinion is on wether Top Gear knew about the plates or it was a coincidence. The fact is that the Argentinians were prepared to kill or seriously injure people and they did destroy 3 cars all because 1 car had H982FKL as a number plate. I’d say that’s a pretty massive over reaction to a fairly tenuous link. I remember that Top Gear did give out an address once for Germans to complain about a segment and I seem to remember it contained references to the world wars and 1966 World Cup final and the Germans didn’t even lodge a complaint about it, let alone try to kill them
You are right, but I'm not that surprised. According to my experience, people living in remote areas can be friendly, but people living in remote areas that are also difficult to reach or simply are a side of the country that nobody cares, are weird. Also, I've read somewhere (don't know if it's true) that the population down there suffered massively the Falkland/Malvinas war, so any remembrance of that was is seen really badly.
Car registration history is public in britain, anyone can go and check that the plate has been the same for years before TG bought it, and has never been changed.
Right then: You have got it wrong regarding the plate change, you have mis-interpreted the data! On 27/12/2014 I ran an Experian car data check on H982 FKL. The DVLA recordings go like this: Date of first Registration: 30/05/1991 Keeper Change: 31/05/1991 Keeper Change: 02/09/1997 PLATE Change: 'Swap to H1 VAE' from H982 FKL on 05/03/1998 Keeper Change: 08/05/2000 PLATE Change: 'Swap to H982 FKL' from H1 VAE on 25/05/2001 Keeper Change: 02/06/2001 Keeper Change: 05/07/2003 Keeper Change: 11/07/2014 Keeper Change: 08/08/2014 (Top Gear Prod. Company??) The car was first registered as H982 FKL. I still have the report because I knew this would come up again...
Very impressed you kept that! I am obviously working off mycarcheck report which does say something slightly different. However I would still say it had not had the same registration number since new.
@@oscarsgarage447 It's easy to mis-read the info on some reports. I had to read the Experian one several times tonight to make sure the info is as I thought. The way it's set out is not good graphically. But it was regd as H982FKL originally, then went on to H1VAE before reverting to H982FKL.
I used to work on Dunsfold aerodrome when they were filming Top Gear. Unfortunately the security there was such that you couldn't just go and wander round willy nilly. So none of us could go down the other end of the airfield and see the test track and all the filming. We just heard all the tyre screeching! My boss explained to me the once, when we were taking the van on-site, as we passed the main gate there's a car park at the side, and that's where "they dump all their stuff". So presumably all the cars from the road trips were all left there to rot. I still think it was a MASSIVE blunder of the BBC not to offer 'toy' car sets of the road trip vehicles. Given TG's popularity around the world, it would have been a big money spinner. Too late now.
I think a lot of the cars they used were preserved. I went down to beaulieu motor museum a while ago and they had a lot of the old top gear cars, not just from the specials but from regular episodes as well. I think a lot of people would have loved to have had toy cars based of the cars they drove and modified though, definitely a missed opportunity.
There’s a museum in Southhampton, England where they have most of the special cars from Top Gear days. The amphibious trio, Sports Train, Jeoff, James’s Lotus Motorhome, Mobility Scooter, Red Fiat Panda Limousine, Old people Fiat Multipla etc
About 20 years ago i acquired a proper mini cooper, which had a private plate on it. I didnt want it contacted the dvla who said if i surrender the plate i would get an age related plate, or if the original plate had not been issued i would get that plate. The car now resides on its original plate
There is apparently video out there of the 3 cars being crushed, that video will likely never see the public eye. However, there is an image online of the wreckage of the 3 cars (I have seen this image, can't find it now :( ). Though, weirdly, the V5 on the Porsche has been renewed.
Allegedly there was one video taken of the cars being crushed by Argentinian officials (everyone else had to hand their phones in) so I doubt it will ever come to light.
I agree and believe it was all an unfortunate coincidence. The only way it could have been deliberate is if they had bought that car for some other reason, then noticed the plate and planned the Argentina trip around it.
Let’s face it, as soon as the Top Gear team get their hands on any classic car it’s as good as destroyed anyway. Some survived filming in usable condition but most were ruined on screen and those the threesome didn’t keep either ended up in museum exhibitions (Beaulieu for example) or rotting away in their huge open air yard.
The trio were safer driving through Iraq Africa Alabama with extremely offensive things spray painted on their cars then they were driving through a 1st world country with a license plate on one car
Could you please do an episode with Mark Evans's E-type Jaguar and the kit racing car he built? I wonder if he sold them or still has them. I enjoyed his shows A LOT.
V5 being issued doesn't necessarily mean change of ownership (or even the car exists!) I have changed the colour of one of my vehicles and the last V5 issue date coincides with that change.
I bought a set of plates for my wife cost £200 (might have had a few cough) few years later she wanted to change the car and the hassel of rentention and insurance change was'nt worth the cost to keep the plates so they went with the car.
@@oscarsgarage447 I loved that Riviera! Reminded me so much of a 1972 Buick Riviera that I had (in USA) and LOVED SO MUCH! Let my ex talk me into trading it in for a more compact car because he had gotten a job that was 2 hours away high up in the mountains (CA, USA). I was pregnant at the time and we had a toddler. I loved the town we were moving to as it was a beautiful mountain town and wanted him to have a decent job so I caved. I REGRET IT TO THIS DAY! The Riviera I had was carefully redone by a friend of mine and he had put in diamond tuck tan leather seat covers, a new vinyl tan roof, ALL CHROME everywhere including under the hood and even the hinges! The body was white and it had gorgeous wheels. Yes I did love that car... the only problem was of course it had a huge engine that used a lot of gas. Way it goes... but every time I watch the Grand Tour show and see Hammond in that car I love it. Different rear end as mine had a chrome bumper. 71 only had a few differences from 72 version.
Re the private plate being in the Porsche, they could have been there and the owner of said plate, figured they would get new physical plates for their next car, rather then putting the already now used and probably tatty looking plates on. Just because the plate was transferred, doesn't necessarily mean the physical plates were. Just a thought.
Fair comment, I just thought it would be a bit odd to leave them in the car. (Speaking as someone who has old number plates screwed to their garage ceiling...)
I really hope those cars weren't destroyed just because of a political misunderstanding. That's just plain stupid, how's it the car's fault, the plates could have been on anything...
While the Porsche came with this plate, it might have been chosen (over other offers) because of the plate. Jezza is someone who likes to cause mayhem, and that is exactly why he is so popular. Although he certainly miscalculated this one. Or maybe not. In any case, the reaction of the right-wing m*r*ns in Argentina is utterly unacceptable and just shows why they lost the war and why their country is in such a bad state.
For me the plate was too much of a coincidence, can't help thinking Clarkson didn't insist on a Porsche and they just bought the car because of the plate
absolutely. The number plate was way too evident in the special, and they had two spare number plates inside the car, being H1VAE and BE11END. That's the definitive proof to me.
@@64bakes mate, who goes in a car with two extra number plates, except a criminal? Come on, it's so evident that they knew the number plates would spark controversy. Not so much controversy, but they definitely knew.
@@Snarl616 well to be fair, it was probably one number plate as the other was an unlikely rumour. Even with that one plate, it was provided after things started kicking off. So I don't see any definitive proof.
@@64bakes both plates are easily findable on google. If this is not a proof to you, go re-watch the special: the number plates of the 928 are shown a lot. They knew they would spark controversy, including building a stadium with things in the back of they cars.
Some say they bought the car knowing its number plate and then made a story around it and then went off to Argentina. Easily done if you want to be controversial
In all honesty, the Top Gear crew and everyone else involved had it coming and are to blame. It was a dumb decision to use those number plates. Also silly was the fact that the Porsche 928 was modified, it just didn't look good. I still hope they spared the Lotus, that car was nice.
I perfectly agree. I also found a Pistonheads post where they said that somebody from Ushuaia tweeted a warning for Top Gear to not come to Ushuaia. But the link was dead, unfortunately.
Are you suggesting that TG should've put a fake numberplate on the car? As posted by some else here in the comments, the 928's history: Date of first Registration: 30/05/1991 Keeper Change: 31/05/1991 Keeper Change: 02/09/1997 PLATE Change: 'Swap to H1 VAE' from H982 FKL on 05/03/1998 Keeper Change: 08/05/2000 PLATE Change: 'Swap to H982 FKL' from H1 VAE on 25/05/2001 Keeper Change: 02/06/2001 Keeper Change: 05/07/2003 Keeper Change: 11/07/2014 Keeper Change: 08/08/2014 (Top Gear Prod. Company??) The car was originally registered as H982 FKL. And that's the number that was on the car when some Argentinians decided that they wanted the presenters dead.
@@Snarl616 Like a big filming company and crew Is going to take every tweet there is seriously? There is no one else to blame than the pathetic Argentinian mob
@@johnbjorklof2281 Answered in the other comment you wrote. Yeah, it's just a tweet and people down there overreacted to say the least, but that only shows you how's the mood in that place.
I was a fan of Top Gear until that special. I'm ok with thrashing some old end of life cars, albeit classics, because it's an interesting way to bring back interest to them (The Subaru Impreza after the Uganda special had a sales peak in the used car market). But those three cars were RARE, in ok conditions and valuable. Also, the story is strange and weak. First it's a tribute to V8 Engines, then they roam endlessly for no reasons and with no clear destination, the special is full of recycled gags, and then they want to build a stadium with things being contained in the back of their cars (seriously?!?), and we all know that the controversy between Argentina and England after the Falklands/Malvinas was re-ignited by a football world cup match in 1986, so that too was a reference. Add the fact that the two spare number plates were inside the 928, a tweet (apparently) from the Ushuaia people warned them to not come into the city, and that the 928 plate is far too evident and visible in the special, and you can see what I mean. I'm sorry, but it's obvious to me that they did it on purpose, and after that, Clarkson, Hammond and May lost all respect to me.
@@deansmith6924 Very interesting comment. Here's my theory about that special: The year before the Patagonia special Top Gear was not in good waters, according to what you said and things like Clarkson's "N" word scandal and the "slope" scandal. What happened then in my opinion is that they decided to part ways, but it had to happen in a Top Gear-esque way, i.e. with drama and in a grandious, life-risking way. So they did a special like that, that must be understood like a "best of", recycling all the best jokes, doing the ultimate insult (probably they didn't expect such a retaliation, but they knew what they were doing), and ultimately mocking the locals, asserting that Uk is better. It's not a coincidence that the 928 and the Mustang fell to pieces, but the Lotus didn't ever suffer a puncture, despite you can see they used at least two sets of tyres with different wheels and sizes. It's the only way this special makes sense to me, but it's still bad. They still lie to us because you can never prove that they wanted to offend the locals on purpose, they just hide behind the "the number plate was original!111!" factor and they got away with it.
Tbh, I don't think even Top Gear would've been stupid enough to go there with those plates, on purpose! The special was crap though! Burma was the last really good one they made. Even Grand Tour specials have been pretty lackluster! Also, with the budget they have for TGT, they don't take old bangers on huge adventures anymore, they take and destroy expensive supercars and the like!
First off all of their specials in the last 15 years have been pretty story weak and random. plus the fact that they could never release the special as it was intended since they never got it finished as it was scripted. And I find it funny that they "supposedly" found the "Other" number plates in the car but failed to take any photo or other evidence of them but then again took photos of the fake "Be11 end" number plates. And speaking of the be11 end number plates it's nothing new that they swap fake numbers plate to humiliate each other. They took a risk as Englishmen coming there that i agree with but have many times gone to controversial places before and after this. The angry mob of Argentinians are a joke and so are those who are bitter about the Falklands.
@@johnbjorklof2281 I've posted a picture of the 928 with the H1VAE number plate in argentina. That proves to me that they knew that the number plate would have created controversy. And I agree, people there overreacted to say the least, but that only tells you how much all of this was lame and avoidable, unless done on purpose.
Chances of getting a manual 928 are pretty slim in any circumstances.
Sure is!
Whatever your opinion is on wether Top Gear knew about the plates or it was a coincidence. The fact is that the Argentinians were prepared to kill or seriously injure people and they did destroy 3 cars all because 1 car had H982FKL as a number plate. I’d say that’s a pretty massive over reaction to a fairly tenuous link.
I remember that Top Gear did give out an address once for Germans to complain about a segment and I seem to remember it contained references to the world wars and 1966 World Cup final and the Germans didn’t even lodge a complaint about it, let alone try to kill them
You are right, but I'm not that surprised. According to my experience, people living in remote areas can be friendly, but people living in remote areas that are also difficult to reach or simply are a side of the country that nobody cares, are weird.
Also, I've read somewhere (don't know if it's true) that the population down there suffered massively the Falkland/Malvinas war, so any remembrance of that was is seen really badly.
Using the others could have been worse. BE11 END could have been seen to reference the sinking of the General Belgrano.
Car registration history is public in britain, anyone can go and check that the plate has been the same for years before TG bought it, and has never been changed.
@@PaulButterfield-bt3rk or, you know, could just be calling clarkson a bellend?
@@nzjamie You could be right.
Right then: You have got it wrong regarding the plate change, you have mis-interpreted the data! On 27/12/2014 I ran an Experian car data check on H982 FKL. The DVLA recordings go like this:
Date of first Registration: 30/05/1991
Keeper Change: 31/05/1991
Keeper Change: 02/09/1997
PLATE Change: 'Swap to H1 VAE' from H982 FKL on 05/03/1998
Keeper Change: 08/05/2000
PLATE Change: 'Swap to H982 FKL' from H1 VAE on 25/05/2001
Keeper Change: 02/06/2001
Keeper Change: 05/07/2003
Keeper Change: 11/07/2014
Keeper Change: 08/08/2014 (Top Gear Prod. Company??)
The car was first registered as H982 FKL.
I still have the report because I knew this would come up again...
Very impressed you kept that! I am obviously working off mycarcheck report which does say something slightly different. However I would still say it had not had the same registration number since new.
@@oscarsgarage447 It's easy to mis-read the info on some reports. I had to read the Experian one several times tonight to make sure the info is as I thought. The way it's set out is not good graphically. But it was regd as H982FKL originally, then went on to H1VAE before reverting to H982FKL.
On the mycarcheck there was no plate prior to the H1VAE, but I will speak to them to check their data.
@@oscarsgarage447 They might only record plate changes within a timescale?
H1 VAE owner must love Porsche , it’s on a 911 turbo now 😎
I used to work on Dunsfold aerodrome when they were filming Top Gear. Unfortunately the security there was such that you couldn't just go and wander round willy nilly. So none of us could go down the other end of the airfield and see the test track and all the filming. We just heard all the tyre screeching! My boss explained to me the once, when we were taking the van on-site, as we passed the main gate there's a car park at the side, and that's where "they dump all their stuff". So presumably all the cars from the road trips were all left there to rot. I still think it was a MASSIVE blunder of the BBC not to offer 'toy' car sets of the road trip vehicles. Given TG's popularity around the world, it would have been a big money spinner. Too late now.
I think a lot of the cars they used were preserved. I went down to beaulieu motor museum a while ago and they had a lot of the old top gear cars, not just from the specials but from regular episodes as well. I think a lot of people would have loved to have had toy cars based of the cars they drove and modified though, definitely a missed opportunity.
The Mini from the India Special was restored, expect it was left a bit smashed at the front, 'cause that's what made it famous.
Some of the cars have been modelled. Oxford Diecast made the indestructible Hilux, Toybota, Damper Van and Herald sailboat.
There’s a museum in Southhampton, England where they have most of the special cars from Top Gear days. The amphibious trio, Sports Train, Jeoff, James’s Lotus Motorhome, Mobility Scooter, Red Fiat Panda Limousine, Old people Fiat Multipla etc
@@Snarl616The rolls from India still lives on somewhere. Not sure where the Jag is sadly
About 20 years ago i acquired a proper mini cooper, which had a private plate on it. I didnt want it contacted the dvla who said if i surrender the plate i would get an age related plate, or if the original plate had not been issued i would get that plate. The car now resides on its original plate
Argentinian Officials made themselves look like a bunch of BE11 END’s throughout the whole event 😂
I see what you did there... :-)
There is apparently video out there of the 3 cars being crushed, that video will likely never see the public eye. However, there is an image online of the wreckage of the 3 cars (I have seen this image, can't find it now :( ). Though, weirdly, the V5 on the Porsche has been renewed.
Allegedly there was one video taken of the cars being crushed by Argentinian officials (everyone else had to hand their phones in) so I doubt it will ever come to light.
The cars were left there in Argentina they had to be abandoned after the mob attacked them
Top Gear Patagonia Spezial.........or....How a country completely makes a fool of itself.😂😂😂
mind you, just because another car had the number inbetween doesn't mean, the 928 didn't have the number plate before.
Another interesting video. Thanks for posting it. All the very best to you.
Thanks, you too!
Interesting again, Is it just me that thinks that there was way too much hype about the plate, I mean it's pretty obscure is it not?
I agree. Yes it wasn't on the car from day 1, but think it was all a bit OTT the reaction.
I agree and believe it was all an unfortunate coincidence. The only way it could have been deliberate is if they had bought that car for some other reason, then noticed the plate and planned the Argentina trip around it.
@@oscarsgarage447 Using the others could have been worse. BE11 END could have been seen to reference the sinking of the General Belgrano.
Let’s face it, as soon as the Top Gear team get their hands on any classic car it’s as good as destroyed anyway. Some survived filming in usable condition but most were ruined on screen and those the threesome didn’t keep either ended up in museum exhibitions (Beaulieu for example) or rotting away in their huge open air yard.
I just bought my mom a ford fiesta and coincidentally the number plate is her birthday.
It did survive. If you check plate checker, the Porsche did 34 miles last month
i checked the lotus esprit and the mustang the mustang had only 30000 miles when destroyed and the lotus only had 18k which was sad
The trio were safer driving through Iraq Africa Alabama with extremely offensive things spray painted on their cars then they were driving through a 1st world country with a license plate on one car
Could you please do an episode with Mark Evans's E-type Jaguar and the kit racing car he built? I wonder if he sold them or still has them. I enjoyed his shows A LOT.
Could be interesting. I saw a post a few months ago saying Pete Mate had sadly passed away.
Good idea. He also did a cobra kit and a trike, all of which more than enough for a video.
@@oscarsgarage447 Oh my God ... I now hear this. God bless his soul in heaven.
Yes, that Scots guy was awesome , love to have him on his own series
thank you my friend , this video did the filling in
There was a v5c issued in October 2020🤔
this is around the time the cars were supposedly crushed, so it could be scrapyard ownership or something
V5 being issued doesn't necessarily mean change of ownership (or even the car exists!) I have changed the colour of one of my vehicles and the last V5 issue date coincides with that change.
in short, those people can't take a joke well. bunch of immatures tbh!
Escaparon,esta vez no estaban los americanos para salvarlos, la vida del pirata es así!
You attacked unarmed civilians. Pathetic
Womp womp
nosotros los chilenos si los salvamos 😁, y lo hariamos una y mil veces
@@Valencetheshireman927 "you " JAHHAHAHAHAJAJAJA stup1d brit
I bought a set of plates for my wife cost £200 (might have had a few cough) few years later she wanted to change the car and the hassel of rentention and insurance change was'nt worth the cost to keep the plates so they went with the car.
Quite amusing how the situation was inflamed further with the discovery of the other number plates
I thought Hammond had the Mustang back in Uk
Don't think he had the Mustang back, but did get the Buick Riviera from Grand Tour back to the UK
@@oscarsgarage447 I loved that Riviera! Reminded me so much of a 1972 Buick Riviera that I had (in USA) and LOVED SO MUCH! Let my ex talk me into trading it in for a more compact car because he had gotten a job that was 2 hours away high up in the mountains (CA, USA). I was pregnant at the time and we had a toddler. I loved the town we were moving to as it was a beautiful mountain town and wanted him to have a decent job so I caved. I REGRET IT TO THIS DAY! The Riviera I had was carefully redone by a friend of mine and he had put in diamond tuck tan leather seat covers, a new vinyl tan roof, ALL CHROME everywhere including under the hood and even the hinges! The body was white and it had gorgeous wheels. Yes I did love that car... the only problem was of course it had a huge engine that used a lot of gas. Way it goes... but every time I watch the Grand Tour show and see Hammond in that car I love it. Different rear end as mine had a chrome bumper. 71 only had a few differences from 72 version.
Re the private plate being in the Porsche, they could have been there and the owner of said plate, figured they would get new physical plates for their next car, rather then putting the already now used and probably tatty looking plates on. Just because the plate was transferred, doesn't necessarily mean the physical plates were. Just a thought.
Fair comment, I just thought it would be a bit odd to leave them in the car. (Speaking as someone who has old number plates screwed to their garage ceiling...)
great video. would love to see more top gear content from you👍
Thanks, will do!
Argentina. A good place not to go.
Most if you are from Australia, Canada or Britain.
Only Irish or South Africans are welcome.
I really hope those cars weren't destroyed just because of a political misunderstanding.
That's just plain stupid, how's it the car's fault, the plates could have been on anything...
Excellent video 🚘🚙🚗👍👍👍⭐️⭐️⭐️👏👏
Thank you 👍
So May, Clarkson & Hammond were flown out from the hotel and were never in the convoy getting attacked?? This wasn't clear during the episode.
Yes they flew out & was never with the crew during the convoy.
Topgear lie?! Why the nerve... I never... who would have thought... HRUMPH!
More good stuff ❤❤❤❤
For any nationalist Argentine in the comments, the FALKLANDS (Not las Islas Malvinas) are British
... Which is unfortunate for the people who live there
@@JamboP26 Why would it be, Argentina sucks currently
Are Germans
@@2003AudiS3There are only 3000 bastards living there.
@@AlexanderHansmeyer-195 ?
Entonces se robaron los coches
While the Porsche came with this plate, it might have been chosen (over other offers) because of the plate. Jezza is someone who likes to cause mayhem, and that is exactly why he is so popular. Although he certainly miscalculated this one. Or maybe not.
In any case, the reaction of the right-wing m*r*ns in Argentina is utterly unacceptable and just shows why they lost the war and why their country is in such a bad state.
no they didnt lie move on
Nope they did not lie at all about them
Did you watch the video?
@oscarsgarage447 yes it's good as always
For me the plate was too much of a coincidence, can't help thinking Clarkson didn't insist on a Porsche and they just bought the car because of the plate
absolutely. The number plate was way too evident in the special, and they had two spare number plates inside the car, being H1VAE and BE11END. That's the definitive proof to me.
@@Snarl616I don't think they did have those plates sorted until they had trouble, as is covered in this video.
@@64bakes mate, who goes in a car with two extra number plates, except a criminal? Come on, it's so evident that they knew the number plates would spark controversy. Not so much controversy, but they definitely knew.
@@Snarl616 well to be fair, it was probably one number plate as the other was an unlikely rumour. Even with that one plate, it was provided after things started kicking off. So I don't see any definitive proof.
@@64bakes both plates are easily findable on google. If this is not a proof to you, go re-watch the special: the number plates of the 928 are shown a lot.
They knew they would spark controversy, including building a stadium with things in the back of they cars.
Viva Malvinas . How would we like it if Argentina claimed Isle of Man , they’re welcome to Isle of Wight though .
The Falklands are British! 🇬🇧 😂 oh & let them try come claim the IoM & make even bigger fools of themselves
Nothing but a bunch of sore losers...
Some say they bought the car knowing its number plate and then made a story around it and then went off to Argentina. Easily done if you want to be controversial
they are known for playing stupid games.....just admit it...
never thougth I'd hear Micheal Caine talking about top gear
You were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off! (Appreciate the promotion, previously suggested I was Dodgy Chris from the Fast Show!)
Argentinians being...you know.... Argentinians ughhh
In all honesty, the Top Gear crew and everyone else involved had it coming and are to blame. It was a dumb decision to use those number plates. Also silly was the fact that the Porsche 928 was modified, it just didn't look good. I still hope they spared the Lotus, that car was nice.
None were spared, all 3 got crushed
I perfectly agree. I also found a Pistonheads post where they said that somebody from Ushuaia tweeted a warning for Top Gear to not come to Ushuaia. But the link was dead, unfortunately.
Are you suggesting that TG should've put a fake numberplate on the car?
As posted by some else here in the comments, the 928's history:
Date of first Registration: 30/05/1991
Keeper Change: 31/05/1991
Keeper Change: 02/09/1997
PLATE Change: 'Swap to H1 VAE' from H982 FKL on 05/03/1998
Keeper Change: 08/05/2000
PLATE Change: 'Swap to H982 FKL' from H1 VAE on 25/05/2001
Keeper Change: 02/06/2001
Keeper Change: 05/07/2003
Keeper Change: 11/07/2014
Keeper Change: 08/08/2014 (Top Gear Prod. Company??)
The car was originally registered as H982 FKL. And that's the number that was on the car when some Argentinians decided that they wanted the presenters dead.
@@Snarl616 Like a big filming company and crew Is going to take every tweet there is seriously? There is no one else to blame than the pathetic Argentinian mob
@@johnbjorklof2281 Answered in the other comment you wrote. Yeah, it's just a tweet and people down there overreacted to say the least, but that only shows you how's the mood in that place.
I was a fan of Top Gear until that special. I'm ok with thrashing some old end of life cars, albeit classics, because it's an interesting way to bring back interest to them (The Subaru Impreza after the Uganda special had a sales peak in the used car market). But those three cars were RARE, in ok conditions and valuable.
Also, the story is strange and weak. First it's a tribute to V8 Engines, then they roam endlessly for no reasons and with no clear destination, the special is full of recycled gags, and then they want to build a stadium with things being contained in the back of their cars (seriously?!?), and we all know that the controversy between Argentina and England after the Falklands/Malvinas was re-ignited by a football world cup match in 1986, so that too was a reference.
Add the fact that the two spare number plates were inside the 928, a tweet (apparently) from the Ushuaia people warned them to not come into the city, and that the 928 plate is far too evident and visible in the special, and you can see what I mean.
I'm sorry, but it's obvious to me that they did it on purpose, and after that, Clarkson, Hammond and May lost all respect to me.
@@deansmith6924 Very interesting comment. Here's my theory about that special: The year before the Patagonia special Top Gear was not in good waters, according to what you said and things like Clarkson's "N" word scandal and the "slope" scandal. What happened then in my opinion is that they decided to part ways, but it had to happen in a Top Gear-esque way, i.e. with drama and in a grandious, life-risking way.
So they did a special like that, that must be understood like a "best of", recycling all the best jokes, doing the ultimate insult (probably they didn't expect such a retaliation, but they knew what they were doing), and ultimately mocking the locals, asserting that Uk is better. It's not a coincidence that the 928 and the Mustang fell to pieces, but the Lotus didn't ever suffer a puncture, despite you can see they used at least two sets of tyres with different wheels and sizes. It's the only way this special makes sense to me, but it's still bad.
They still lie to us because you can never prove that they wanted to offend the locals on purpose, they just hide behind the "the number plate was original!111!" factor and they got away with it.
Tbh, I don't think even Top Gear would've been stupid enough to go there with those plates, on purpose!
The special was crap though! Burma was the last really good one they made. Even Grand Tour specials have been pretty lackluster! Also, with the budget they have for TGT, they don't take old bangers on huge adventures anymore, they take and destroy expensive supercars and the like!
First off all of their specials in the last 15 years have been pretty story weak and random. plus the fact that they could never release the special as it was intended since they never got it finished as it was scripted. And I find it funny that they "supposedly" found the "Other" number plates in the car but failed to take any photo or other evidence of them but then again took photos of the fake "Be11 end" number plates. And speaking of the be11 end number plates it's nothing new that they swap fake numbers plate to humiliate each other. They took a risk as Englishmen coming there that i agree with but have many times gone to controversial places before and after this. The angry mob of Argentinians are a joke and so are those who are bitter about the Falklands.
@@johnbjorklof2281 I've posted a picture of the 928 with the H1VAE number plate in argentina. That proves to me that they knew that the number plate would have created controversy.
And I agree, people there overreacted to say the least, but that only tells you how much all of this was lame and avoidable, unless done on purpose.
can you perhaps link me to this supposed picture because i cant fint it
@@Snarl616
try going to israel with a plate that reads HI71ER...... we have to explain it all to you ??? keep drinking tea mate