This is gorgeous stuff! And perhaps a hint as to why JCF is underplayed is because a significant portion his output was lost in WWII when the Staatliches Institut für Musikforschung in Berlin was blitzed. We must enjoy what we have.
One of the most severely neglected composers in history. Just a shade less expert and inspired than Haydn and Mozart. Simply love his stuff and I scour UA-cam and Amazon for anything I can get my hand on.
Just took a chance, to look at some of the musical offerings of you tube. I am very happy that I did, and found what I consider to be a musical diamond. I love the painting!
Bellissimo. Veit Bach (ca. 1550 - Wechmar, March 8, 1619), baker and miller - Pfeiferbrüder - was the musical ancestor of the widely branched German musical Bach family, with J. S. Bach as its most famous descendant. In the 14th to 18th centuries - Town pipers joined together in guilds; usually called “Pfeiferbrüder” (Pifferbruder) in southern Germany. The town pipers' tasks were to provide music for the town's festivities. A master took on journeymen and apprentices who had to learn all the common old instruments from him. Wilhelm Friedrich Ernst Bach (1759-1845) the last "Bach" - composer - wisely said: "Heredity can tend to run out of ideas."
What an excellent work! We get a good appreciation of his considerable compositional ability considering a large proportion of his output was destroyed in WW2. Visiting his brother obviously stimulated his creativity in this genre. Very energetic opening with a poignant slow movement.
Your channel is just marvelous. A wealth of composers and their music and information I did not know. Most everything you put on your channel is very enjoyable. What I really like is the fact that you upload in HD. Thank you so much for all your hard work.
Essa orquestra com forte presença das palhetas segue o estilo Hamburgues de Telemann com uma pitada de Haydn; as trompas aos pares vieram da influência Tcheca. O piano sola livre com velocidade.
Increible compositor que no se deshace del barroco, es clasico y cuando usa el piano es preromantico. Un concierto grosso con cembalo y piano, Estos son los hijos de Bach y la genialidad que tenian
The most obscure son of Bach turned out to be a very capabal composer! I was aware of his other somewhat known piano concerto (in D-major I believe) and listened to a few chamber works, but I could never imagine that he wrote 12 large scale symphonies and 7 double concerti towarts the ebd of his life! Are the works published? Do manuscripts excist? Surely not anything of this is recorded? Why is he so overlooked?
Out of his 27 symphonies, only 8 survived in manuscript and they all have been recorded. 4 out of surviving 14 concertos were also recorded, as well as some cantatas, sacred and secular. Almost his entire chamber works were recorded too. However, only 2 of his keyboard works (130 and then some) are available on disc.
Jean-Baptiste De Prez If the Wikipedia details are correct - which seems likely in this case - it appears that a significant proportion of JCF’s extant scores were moved to Berlin in 1917, but unfortunately were destroyed at the end of WW2. I suspect any assessment we may want to make about JCF as a composer will therefore be limited by being only able to see or hear an unusually small percentage of his output. Those works we do have do not shame the name ‘Bach’, though there is little that is particularly innovative, and his music is quite conservative. JCF visited his brother JC in London in 1778, and this is I think reflected in some of his later music. However, JCF seems destined to be always the least known of his generation of musical Bachs.
This piece can be found in Bach-Digital. www.bach-digital.de/receive/BachDigitalSource_source_00005633 Other manuscripts of his works can also be found there, along with the works of his brothers and father.
@Alcina The concerto itself lacks the defining traits of a concerto grosso, so I think the name "Concerto Grosso" might simply refer to the length of the concerto. It is a piano concerto at its heart.
Doesn't measure up to J.C. Bach fortepiano concertos; really foursquare. Mozart had written his concertos when this was written! Perhaps he shines in other musical genres.
The romanza is utterly charming. Another CD ordered as a direct result of this channel!
É a família BACH !!!❤❤❤
Thank you for introducing me to this amazing composer! It’s so sad that he’s severely underrated. Definitely got his talent from his father!
Indescribable comfort
Indescribable feeling
And
something indescribable
This is gorgeous stuff! And perhaps a hint as to why JCF is underplayed is because a significant portion his output was lost in WWII when the Staatliches Institut für Musikforschung in Berlin was blitzed. We must enjoy what we have.
One of the most severely neglected composers in history. Just a shade less expert and inspired than Haydn and Mozart. Simply love his stuff and I scour UA-cam and Amazon for anything I can get my hand on.
Just took a chance, to look at some of the musical offerings of you tube. I am very happy that I did, and found what I consider to be a musical diamond. I love the painting!
The use of both the harpsichord and fortepiano in this performance is really interesting. Love it.
wunderbar originell und sprühend!
00:00 1. Allegro
12:47 2. Romanza
22:34 3. Rondo: Allegro
Por fin un pianoforte que suena como fue realmente: la transición entre el clave y el piano
JCF Bach なぜ昔から、
聴かれてないのか？
私には不思議な感じがします、当サイトで、多数聴けるので、とても楽しいです。
Ty beautiful - love the ornaments from this period blended with more genteel and romantic melodies- great forte piano sound !
Bellissimo. Veit Bach (ca. 1550 - Wechmar, March 8, 1619), baker and miller - Pfeiferbrüder - was the musical ancestor of the widely branched German musical Bach family, with J. S. Bach as its most famous descendant. In the 14th to 18th centuries - Town pipers joined together in guilds; usually called “Pfeiferbrüder” (Pifferbruder) in southern Germany. The town pipers' tasks were to provide music for the town's festivities. A master took on journeymen and apprentices who had to learn all the common old instruments from him. Wilhelm Friedrich Ernst Bach (1759-1845) the last "Bach" - composer - wisely said: "Heredity can tend to run out of ideas."
What an excellent work! We get a good appreciation of his considerable compositional ability considering a large proportion of his output was destroyed in WW2. Visiting his brother obviously stimulated his creativity in this genre. Very energetic opening with a poignant slow movement.
Your channel is just marvelous. A wealth of composers and their music and information I did not know. Most everything you put on your channel is very enjoyable. What I really like is the fact that you upload in HD. Thank you so much for all your hard work.
Thanks!! The paintings deserve HD 😉
This is so cool!
Very nice! 💖
thank you for uploading! a genius opus - he was as old as Joseph Haydn and this work sounds a little bit like Joseph Haydn
Muy hermoso.
Essa orquestra com forte presença das palhetas segue o estilo Hamburgues de Telemann com uma pitada de Haydn; as trompas aos pares vieram da influência Tcheca. O piano sola livre com velocidade.
Increible compositor que no se deshace del barroco, es clasico y cuando usa el piano es preromantico. Un concierto grosso con cembalo y piano, Estos son los hijos de Bach y la genialidad que tenian
Giudizio condivisibile!
Il commento pittorico mi sembra quanto mai adatto a confermare questo giudizio di compresenza di stili!
BR-JCFB C 43 \ "Concerto Grosso" in E-flat major - before September 1792 (Wf II/5) (1792)
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The most obscure son of Bach turned out to be a very capabal composer! I was aware of his other somewhat known piano concerto (in D-major I believe) and listened to a few chamber works, but I could never imagine that he wrote 12 large scale symphonies and 7 double concerti towarts the ebd of his life! Are the works published? Do manuscripts excist? Surely not anything of this is recorded? Why is he so overlooked?
Out of his 27 symphonies, only 8 survived in manuscript and they all have been recorded. 4 out of surviving 14 concertos were also recorded, as well as some cantatas, sacred and secular. Almost his entire chamber works were recorded too. However, only 2 of his keyboard works (130 and then some) are available on disc.
Jean-Baptiste De Prez
If the Wikipedia details are correct - which seems likely in this case - it appears that a significant proportion of JCF’s extant scores were moved to Berlin in 1917, but unfortunately were destroyed at the end of WW2.
I suspect any assessment we may want to make about JCF as a composer will therefore be limited by being only able to see or hear an unusually small percentage of his output.
Those works we do have do not shame the name ‘Bach’, though there is little that is particularly innovative, and his music is quite conservative.
JCF visited his brother JC in London in 1778, and this is I think reflected in some of his later music.
However, JCF seems destined to be always the least known of his generation of musical Bachs.
This piece can be found in Bach-Digital. www.bach-digital.de/receive/BachDigitalSource_source_00005633
Other manuscripts of his works can also be found there, along with the works of his brothers and father.
@Alcina The concerto itself lacks the defining traits of a concerto grosso, so I think the name "Concerto Grosso" might simply refer to the length of the concerto. It is a piano concerto at its heart.
Doesn't measure up to J.C. Bach fortepiano concertos; really foursquare. Mozart had written his concertos when this was written! Perhaps he shines in other musical genres.
By the measure of beautiful music in general, it is quite beautiful.