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Ferrari 488 Pista Spider. Why I Got One & Will I Keep It?
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2022
- Ferrari 488 Pista Spider. Why I Bought One & What I Hate About It #DriveEveryFerrari | TheCarGuys.tv
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Enter the CarGuys’ own Ferrari 488 Pista Spider for a fully detailed episode of #DriveEveryFerrari.
Learn about what makes this car so special? What it’s like to drive? What we like/hate about it? How fast is it? Not to mention a full internal and external walkaround.
Is the Pista Spider, the 50th open-top Ferrari, a worthy tribute and swansong to all the track-focused mid-engined V8 supercars? Is it the most exciting ever produced? Well in this episode, we’re going to find out.
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You should get more recognition for your spec on this model - it’s to die for. Instant classic!
The Ferrai Pista is the nicest design. It is beautiful.
Aggressively beautiful. I couldn't have said it better Damian. Another fantastic video.
The Pista is a masterclass in car design. The in-house team at Maranello under the direction of Flavio Manzoni knocked it out of the park with the Pista and haven't matched it since. I genuinely wonder if they will ever surpass it, because the F8, SF90 and 296 GTB are all lovely cars, but (for me) fall short of what they achieved with the Pista.
I bought a Pista because (in my humble subjective opinion) it's one of the most beautiful cars ever designed. The swooping nose that perfectly intersects with the S-duct, the rear design and stance, the lines, those lines!, the proportions, my god those proportions!, the aggression, and most importantly of all - the beauty. This thing is a masterpiece of drama, theatre and elegance.
To me, it's the most breathtaking Ferrari in the past 30 years. The 458 still looks sublime, but the extra drama and 'winky fizz' in the Pista pips it to the post for me. Sure, I wish it had the ferocious top end sound of the 458 Speciale and the lighter responsive steering, but to me the Pista is a more attractive design and I was willing to trade in those acoustics and imperfections for the emotional heart-wrenching visual oomph I personally get from the design. And my goodness does it shift. Imperfectly perfect. What a car!
One of the best Ferrari specs I've ever seen. Very unique but it absolutely works 100%.
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Phrases like “just look at it “ and “pinch myself” is key to why I enjoy this channel ,true passion and an absence of arrogance normally associated with these beautiful cars👍🏻
Appreciate that
Love how you specced your Pista, Damian. Very elegant and classy and with your unique stamp on it. Such a beautiful horse. Wishing you many more glorious miles . Great vid.
One of the best and most intricately specced Ferraris out there, massive kudos to you Damian!
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It's a beautiful car Damian, but as a non-turbo fan, the 458 Speciale will always be my favourite. 😍 Totally agree about the stupid stop / start: this has NO PLACE in any high performance car. Great vid once again, my friend! 👍🏻
Can you bypass the switch!?
@@michaelkempton937 I was wondering that too? Maybe a fuse removal is needed... 😉
I owned a new 458 back in 2013,luved that car,I now own a pista,the power delivery is so much better than a 458.
@@nojabs999 I believe you Don...but it doesn't really sound as good though?
@@Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab I agree,I would prefer the power tho.
I saw this at Wilton in September 2021, and thanked the man himself, this does work, and stunning in the metal. All that attention to specification has created a work of art. Awesome Damian - thank you again for the entertainment and attention to detail in this fascinating series. Always a privilege to park in the gravelled square at Wilton, I had earlier in the year at the Classic meet with one of my stable.
The Pista is my current dream car, especially after COVID since the Lexus LFA become unaffordable for me. There are a couple specific specs that I have seen on Insta that I want the most though, mainly the Verde Kers and Viola Hong Kong specs. What I appreciate the most about Damian is that he's a harsh truths guy - very little if anything exists that is truly flawless, and calling out those errors or annoyances is key to describing the overall experience.
It should definitely NOT feel heavy in the steering. It should feel super light and easy, more so than a 488 and 458. If it feels heavy, then it more than likely has way too much toe out. I did a lot of testing with mine, and when we tested it with 30 minutes out on each side i.e. ½ degree out per side it made an old Porsche feel light by comparison.
Let me share these numbers with you. They are slightly off from factory, but they are better and very similar to what Ferrari also uses for Corsa Pilota cars. With this setup, I can run 1.18 times cont. n Paul Ricard.
* = degreees. ' = minutes. All numbers are per side.
Front camber: -1*44'
Front toe: -7'
Front caster: Leave as is. It will more than likely be fine.
Rear camber: -1*52'
Rear toe: +14'
These numbers are perfectly fine for the street and will retain very good tyre wear characteristics. The car will also work great on tracks such as Brands Hatch and Silverstone for a track day. Just make sure you keep an eye on the tyre temps. Run them hot in the 2.2 bar squared range. If you see them go above 2.4, get in and adjust. As soon as they get too high, temps spike and the pressure goes off the charts, and then grip is gone. You can also use this for normal road driving. Rather than trying to make it work with whatever Ferrari says in the manual, just go and drive the car like you normally would for about 30 minutes. Set fronts to 2.2 bars and rears for 2.1 hot. I assume that you run on MPSC2's.
Reality is that many Ferraris come off the factory with abysmal alignment. Way off from factory spec. My regular 488 was all over the place for example. Had over 1.5 degrees of camber difference in the rear from side to side, and that to the opposite direction of the crown in the road. My Pista coupe had toe in on one rear wheel and toe out on the other. Just a disaster. Now I always take a new car directly to an alignment on day one, and I've yet to get one that was right, even my 812 Comp was off.
EDIT!: Just realized that I had written -1 degree and 42 minutes for rear camber. That should have been -1 degree 52 minutes.
Thanks for the info - v interesting
Stunning beautiful spec, thanks for all your top quality videos.
What a fabulous video. I love these detailed reviews of Ferraris in this series. Eyes glued to the screen for the whole of the video. You certainly have a lovely spec Pista Spider. Keep up the good work. Andy. 🚗👍
Damian. You were so brave on configuration , presumed you’d gone mildly wrong. Choc trim. Gold wheels. I was wrong. I love it. What a grower. Remember the old vids on this car so well. What is it with Gold wheels. We should hate them. They work so well under right body.
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Your outfit and car are colour matching. Nice one! You are the most easy going and humble Ferrari owner on UA-cam. You clearly enjoy having fun and don’t take trivial things too seriously. Enjoy in great health!
I love how the launch control button is the most faded one of them all.
You’re so good at putting across the essence of a car
Can you drive a 16M and review for your series
I was lucky to daily one here in LA for approx a year in 2010 ( sold it for a 458 ) but it’s still one of the all time best drivers cars I’ve owned .
Love to get your in depth review ( the sound is unbelievable along with the brutal single clutch shift at speed )
I love that color combination of that car.. The gold brings that grey out!! Pinaferreri Designs are timeless.
I can't understand why Ferrari would insert that blade of plastic across the dash and not make it a carbon option, which would no doubt add an extra grand into the Ferrari coffers, great video as usual!
You have a really great way of showing what I would want to know about these different Ferraris in this series. This series was a great idea.
As an owner of an 812 GTS and Pista, nothing will match the sound of the V12’s, ever, to improve your Pista sound disconnect the exhaust valves and you truly get the benefit of the Inconel exhaust, with pops, bangs and gurgling, offers a much higher pitch at lower cruise speeds, I prefer it to my Speciale which for me doesn’t sound as high pitch as the standard 458 italia, the Pista is awesome, really disconnect the valves then make the video again….
Scintillating, sexy, sooo fast and super exclusive, the 488 Pista Spider is at the top of the food chain. Our Damian has hit yet another home run with this car and video. Having just run a few hot, (tepid, actually,) laps in a 488 EVO, I can attest to the shock and awe factor this car has in spades. I still prefer an ‘80’s car, but I do respect how far technology has advanced things.
Keep ‘em coming, Damian! We enjoy immensely.
Damien, your frustration with the stop start is shared by many many people who cannot afford a Ferrari as well. I cannot tell you how many times I have been caught off guard pulling across traffic and suddenly realizing the Audi has engine is not running. In a car with a quiet engine, the only way I can tell if it is running is the rev counter, and that is the last thing I am looking at when trying to get through Toronto traffic. Also have to turn it off everytime. Irritating. Love the Pista though.
Really enjoy your videos, to the point that I'm picking up a 458 on Tuesday. You have a lot to answer for! Keep up the good work :)
Congratulations
Congrats - great choice
Definitely one of the best UA-camr ever mate 💯
The more I see this car the more beautiful it is. I would love to see it in person to see if it's as gobsmaking as on film. What a car! Great vid !
I recall the “speccing video”…..you were right all along, well done.
My 4th favourite Ferrari behind the la Ferrari, f40 and Enzo. Awesome car and spec
Oh man, it is so good to see that you guys still produce new content. I wasn't much on youtube last few years, last video I watched was when yellow TDF lest the garage.
Keep up the good work! 🍺🍺
Nice one Damian and yeah you really 100% nailed the spec of that car... really beautiful!
This contrast spec absolutely works 👌 totally gorgeous. Beautiful car ❤️
Big fan of the spec of your Pista. Forgot about the start stop disable button...how rude! Hearing about the feeling it's weight when driving is a sad reality of twin turbos and inter-coolers...all just for 0.2 seconds faster than the Speciale seems a bit backwards to me, especially sacrificing that sound.
Really appreciate your guys work on these insightful videos and most of all your brutal honesty about everything!
Just watched Jay Leno's Garage video on the 1016 industries wide-bodied kit and learned something about the 488 Pista S-duct (cracking issue?)...crazy timing to see this video next.
What a spec. I’d rest my freshly shaven plums on its wing mirror each morning whilst sipping an espresso macchiato with my pinky out, wistfully gazing into the distance contemplating my winning at life 🙂
#Winning
@@TheCarGuysTV I bought a V12 lusso btw - thanks for your vid on it 👍
I was not prepared for the Velocicoaster reference 😂 Love that ride!
The best!
I had a good look at the interior spec when you were parked up at the FoS last year and it's a masterpiece. Good work sir!
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I do agree with you that the spec of your car is fantastic!
That being said the overall exterior design of the 488/F8, whether standard or Pista or Spider, just does not work for me at all. Far too busy, especially when contrasted with the 458..
The Speciale is where it's at for me when it comes to modern v8s. Definitely looking forward to THAT video! Hopefully standard Speciale rather than Aperta
Damian your content and presentation of your cars is absolutely brilliant, I’ve recommended many of my friends to your channel.
Long May it continue and you are truly worthy and genuine and deserve all what you have achieved.
All the best my friend, Lee
Many thanks, my friend
Another cracking video mate well done
Thank you for another great video to mark the start of the weekend. Enjoyable review - but the real question is how does it compare to the Aperta? You have us some hints,(as a Speciale owner) I would like to hear the “head to head”. Great spec that you have, amazing interior, I am quite jealous.
Great video and a stunning chocolate-centred car, Damian. Always a pleasure to see (and hear) it on your channel. Enjoyed watching this video whilst waiting for the TSS race to start at the Singapore F1! Wearing my Beans T-shirt too, obviously! Cheers!
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Another great video Damian.
And I admire your honesty in regards to the Pista Spider’s flaws.
I’ve said it before..but it’s so worth repeating..this is a beautiful spec..possibly the best along with that baby blue spec that bloke in Exotic Car hacks had on his
Don't know what this cost you to buy but I have just been looking on autoscout24 here in EU land and they start at 425,000 euros and anything with your type of spec is 600,000+++. It is very sexy, very...
Sweeeeeeeeeet.
Toys for the boy...
What a lush car to have in the garage..
Thanks as ever for sharing
Fantastic honest review, thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Great Content. Thank You for sharing. have a nice day!❤👍
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That's actually hilarious about the color spec. Its a stunning color Combination.
I think your Pista is beautiful with its color combination, so I found a picture of your car that I have as my desktop background on my computer.
One more thing in favour of the Pista vs Speciale….you can use it more. I find the Speciale is so loud inside that after a while it gets a bit wearing whereas the Pista doesnt. But otherwise I agree, Pista feels a serious piece of kit, Speciale feels more playful.
Stunning spec , just need a straight pipe to be perfect! Before I preferred the Speciale, but after I drove a friend's 488 Pista with a straight pipe, I fell in love with the car, driving at the limit with everything OFF, it's one of the most fun cars ever made! And about the maximum speed, several tests with gps have already proven that it exceeds 217mp/h easy! And the sound of the turbos with that exhaust is amazing!! Regarding the car's steering and brakes, yours must have something wrong, because there's nothing on the market that comes close to the feel of driving at 488 Pista, the steering precision, the brakes' sharpness, and I work with sports cars at almost 15 years, already driving almost everything you can imagine! Or are you just not used to more direct cars, because I feel like driving a 488 Challenge when I drive a 488 Pista! Regarding the sound, as I said before, you need a straight pipe! And the sound is muffled by Euro 5 laws and not the Turbos fault!
You did surpass yourself on the spec, it is absolutely stunning, second only to your 458 speciale aperta for me,
Bravo. I love that I had to look up what "Fnaar, Fnaar" means, used in a couple of episodes at this point. Here's to 90k subs by next week, gents.
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Damian, thanks so much for sharing this gorgeous beast again! It is definitely a keeper (one I wish I had instead of my F8 Spider) and may be one of the last of it's kind.
Great video. Love the drive every Ferrari series. Would be pretty cool to have a running ranking of where you'd put each ferrari in the series.
I’m considering that
What an absolute peach ... interior is proper lush ... 👍👍👍
Beautiful spec Damien, you are a man of impeccable taste! I do like that launch spec with white and blue strip very much too🙂
gen the best spec ferrari period
Damian that's my favorite in your collection u speced it perfect chocolata & grigio EXCELLENT COMBO👌🏽
Simply gorgeous car! Beautiful, elegant, sporty WOW
So love that Ferrari! Great upload as per the norm!
Love the spec. I remember watching you go thru the process and thinking it wouldn't be my choice. But now it's really grown on me. The gold wheels are gorgeous and the chocolato interior pure genius. But £10k fur the shields! Did they resurrect Caravaggio fur the paint job??
Rocking that understated PP.
Excellent ,very thorough video. I think u sold me on the speciale, thank you. The italia will do for now. The pista is such a nice looking car tho I was tempted many times to move into forced induction
I would always go Speciale over Pista
My dream car.
Congratulations Damien on having such an incredible Ferrari. I say go big or go home👍
What a lovely car. Inspired bit of spec'ing. I can see why you're pleased.
This is one of the best specs ever. Well done Damian!
Unbelievable car
Beautiful spec on your Pista.
Looks amazing Damian….👌. Love a bit of brown alcantara…
15:05. Translation : “The past, in some ways, counts for nothing”. Enzo Ferrari
True dat
beautiful color choices! This should have been uploaded in 4k to better appreciate the beauty 😼
Amazing spec, Damian. Bravo 🎉 👏
0- 100 MPH HAS TO COME WAAAAAY Quicker than 8.0 Seconds
Congrats Damian, it is an amazing spec.
Cheers
Love the spec Damian looks bloody marvellous. So how many Ferrari's have you done so far? I hope there are still a lot more to come, loving this series. Cheers 🍻
Plenty more to come
You exemplify the very definition of great cars are meant to be driven.
Love that car Damian, still waiting to see it in person. My Audi has that annoying stop start every time as well. Pain in the ….
Thanks for sharing this interesting real-world perspective. TBH I hated the spec. when you first revealed it online, but after seeing the car in person at Donington, I think you absolutely nailed it!
I think the car is a reasonable investment proposition, but will never deliver the same all encompassing experience your NA 458 Speciale Aperta undoubtedly does... or FTR your Boxster Spyder (if only considering your convertibles). Personally, would sell and invest in something quite different to your current collection that really gets the adrenaline and dopamine flowing... YOLO. Ford Gt 40? Ariel Nomad? BAC Mono?
Amazing spec on the pista.....interior is stunning 😍
Love the Chocolato Interior
Sensational car, spec is wonderful, love to know which is the more exciting car between your 675 LT McLaren OR THIS ?? Come on own up ? Great content 👍
you know you are specially loaded when your ferrari has painted cavalino shields :P
It’s my one of my favourite supercars.I have a blue pista piloti.
Nice!
I love this channel 💙
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Great video thank you. Do you prefer driving this over the 675LT?
personally I love the build, unique, but I'm sure the Italians were questioning what this crazy Brit was configuring LOL
Good spec. I approve.
Cannot wait for your best, frank and upright examination of a 288 GTO, !! :-)
Neither can I
Great video, surprised you have not put a cherished plate on this one yet!
Good point
Honest review thanks.Hope you can conjour up a 16M for some extra raw fizz in the sound department etc
Well done with the spec. Great looking car and an interesting review but I do have a problem with the video. It made me jealous! 😂
Whilst I am unlikely to ever own a Pista at least I have managed to get a ride in one. Thanks to Ray of the mighty CSC👍
Great design. Beautiful car. Incredible spec
What a car…that’s a keeper for sure
That colour scheme I'd lovely!
Love that car Damien, well done sir 🏆
This is the car channel that I hate loving - I’m not a fan of Damian’s priggish little Englander demeanour but can’t deny his skill and knowledge when it comes to cars. I find his content enjoyable whilst not enjoying him - still credit where credits due - he’s a first class automotive UA-camr.
Hard to know how to react to this. So I guess I’ll just say thanks.
The roof is amazing... as long as it's up when it starts raining 😅
I love seeing this car! Regarding the stop/start - With all the after market tuning firms we have here, why cant one of them (just one of them) create a permanent Stop/start switch. Whenever this is triggered in my daily driver I'm instantly transported to a very younger me in a stalling car with poorly tuned Carbs. All this does is give petrolheads heart attacks at T Junctions and roundabouts.
Love the spec D, I would only change two little things, agree/disagree?, 1. Yellow centre caps, 2. Stripe on the windscreen surround, 😄.
Gorgeous spec! Shame you have to fight to get the color combinations you want.
That almost is a Mike Reid (of old) catch phrase "That will blow your socks off" ...."run around ....nn.n..nn.. Now"