This was a hell of a project to come together, so shoutout to everyone that made this possible! This one has over 220 credits to boot! Which story do you want to see next?
Clearly someone didn't pay attention to the story with Saladin. He wasn't taken prisoner per-say he was forced to become one of Caitl's Valus', and it was agreed that he could still return to the tower only to continue running the Iron Banner. He also brought Iron Banner to the Cabal and changed it up then brought back the "new" iron banner to us.
His life is owned like a slave to the cabal for crow killing the psion. But the empress of the cabal respects saladin as an equal. He is still a slave though
i dont remember where i heard this, but when Saladin and Caitl got back to her ship they had a discussion on what to expect from him and near the end of the conversation he flat out tells her she cant keep him away from the Iron Banner, she laughs and said she wouldnt try and wanted to talk to him about introducing something similar into the Cabal
I think you misunderstood somewhat what happened to Saladin in the Season of the Risen. He was not taken captive by the Cabal, he pledged his allegiance and became a commander in the Cabal military. Then, with the strengthening bond between the Cabal and the Vanguard, he was not only allowed to continue iron banner for the guardians, but also started running it for the Cabal too. Caiatl saw the benefits of the training that iron banner brings and being allied with us, saw no reason to prevent us from continuing to get that training.
Except he never pledged his allegiance to the cabal, he was ready to die to pay for Crow's mistakes. It was Caiatl's decision to make him a Bracus, something Saladin never expected. But yeah, he's not a prisoner either, so both of you are wrong ;P
If we were to have the IB mode brought in where every game was a different mode like clash, supremacy, rift and zone control it would make it better plus also having a new bunch of cabal themed weapons and maybe return a old D1 weapon per season would also make massive waves
Thank you Evanf1997 you did a good job with the history of iron banner. The mode has change so much and you brought back ma y memories of those days. I do like that bungee hasn’t forgotten everything about the banner with young wolf line for those who did rise of iron and continuing the story of the iron lords. The lack of new content is kinda a trend of D2 pvp imo but this wolf hopes with Rasputin return we get a mini rise of lorn season. We can hope.
As a veteran of destiny I loved and still do love iron banner the armor was unparalleled in its design so were its weapons and it hasn't lived up to that level of perfection in a long time. I wish it could one day bring back the original style of iron banner armor which is easily my favorite armor in destiny history.
This season’s Iron Banner was wack. I went through Destiny LFG on the discord several times and some were looking for lose farms, win farms, AFK farming, and people wanting high K/Ds that were unrealistic. Eventually got into a 6-stack and we owned each match. At the same time, it felt off. Felt like there were two extremes: either you lose horribly or win without mercy. Since we now gonna have two IB weeks per season, idk what the future will hold for this once beloved mode.
Instead of being in the middle of the tower, Saladin should be off of the edge of the tower by Zavala standing on top of an ornate cabal thresher with the iron banner aesthetic. Or he could be off the edge up top where he used to be.
massively enjoyed this. rise of iron was my favorite time ever in Destiny history. best raid, armor, etc. IB was the way to get pinnacles before I got into a clan and raided. Well done!
As a d1 veteran I played a ton of iron banner. I have a ton of amor and weapons from iron banner in my valt. It was the best mode until combined arms came out. Once destiny 2 came out, I enjoyed it for a little bit until it got boring. I wish they would bring back more og content.
all I really want is a shader in the color scheme of the original trials armor so I can apply it to my exile set, whoever made the cloak blue instead of black was an idiot.
Fully agree about the armour, D1 Iron Banner armour was just badass culminating in the pinnacle that was the Rise of Iron set with the fire aesthetic upgrades. D2 Iron Banner armour, apart from one set that i think came out with forsaken, has been crap year after year.
@@thedarknesscallingme nah is all gd, it's been so long but everyone talks bout how good that iron banner armour was when I'm p sure it came from the campaign lmao
I enjoyed IB when it rotated between Clash and Control. I know that Bungo have said that Control is the flagship PvP mode as 'players need to be more engaged as a team' than Clash, but in a mode that so many players use the absolute cheapest weapons and abilities to get the win, being stuck in a team with Randoms who don't want to capture zones means that you're inevitably going to get mercies over and over. At least with Clash you don't have to worry about how little your teammates care about capturing zones
Iron Banner has always been one of my favorite parts of destiny. Sucks rift doesn't feel the same to me, but its still super fun. On a side note, the first season multimach got reintroduced I got a god roll, and its been my main gun ever since.
I think an exotic peice of amour per class in IB would be a cool new reward, titans get The 'As old as Iron' chestpiece, being like saladins chest piece with the fur cape. With hunters getting something based off of Ephirdite, and Warlocks getting something based off of felwinter.
Saladin is still the IB vendor because he is allowed to host the event while being one of Caiatl's Valus. He also brought IB to the Cabal and he and Caiatl exchanged ideas on how to freshen up the event. He wasn't necessarily taken prisoner (he became more of a respected advisor), and his ties to Caiatl's army further strengthened the human and cabal alliance. I love your content, man, but I wish you would pay more attention to the story.
You could reroll iron banner weapons from the very beginning, before house of wolves. That was the biggest draw to the mode in the beginning. House of wolves introduced rerolling to the rest of the weapons for a while
The only thing I would've added was that Felwinter's Lie spanded the entire season, and worst off, Bungie made the "tower defense" activity count towards the quest for Felwinter way, way late into the season where they caved in and added many, many buffs to each completion so the quest could be finished before Season of the Arrival
Recycled Banner = Aluminium Banner As a player who started in Beyond Light, Iron Banner was my favourite PvP mode. Me and my fireteam were amped for it every time. I get why vets were let down but damn, I had an amazing time with Salad Fingers.
Anybody remember that one and only week in D1 where Iron Banner Mayhem Clash was a thing? It was near the end of D1's lifecycle for sure but yea, that was fun. Only happened once
The only thing you missed was that the new weapons are fallen made ( just because is cool to know 🤣 ). Awesome video and thanks for what you do for this community!🔥🔥🔥🍻
"Was" an end game activity, free to play has absolutely ruined it, it will never be the same 😭 I did my first raid, wearing max light iron banner, when it was the only way a solo player could be max power outside of raids! What a time to be alive!!
I just want an iron banner: war. Where you'd get into a match, 6v6, but everytime you do some objective it spawn a cabal for your team to fight with thus combining the current story, with the alliance, abd gambit kinda but not in a motey way and only one cabal guy per objective completion
personally I don't think destiny has "the best gunplay of all time" like it feels good but it's certainly not the best ever made. The biggest thing about it that bothers me is you can't really hip fire most weapons
I always like your videos , I just find how you voice over them is fun and informative. You can see the hard work you put in to them. Also I did the code for the samples and it worked . Absolutely free . Thanks 👍
After watching this I just need to say that all I understood was that nothing changed. Your problem isn't that Iron Banner hasn't gotten worse, but has stayed stagnant.
Being honest if they brought back the Taken King armor sets, especially the PS exclusive pieces, I'd barely ever take them off, once they'd been turned into ornaments :P
I would like for a reintroduced efrideets spear like felwinters lie...efrideet should come back and give us the quest...or something along those lines.
Fantastic video as ever @evanf1997 but can't believe you released this video on a week when I can't just go and play IB lol. (Even if I do get steam-rolled in Rift)
I had not realised how little I care about PVP in D2 until now. Back in D1 I split my time 50/50 between PVP and PVE, sometimes getting closure to 70% PVP when all of the weeklies I could do were done in PVE, however now in D2, its more like a 90/10 split in favor of PVE, PVP just is not fun anymore in D2 compared to how it was in D1.
This was a hell of a project to come together, so shoutout to everyone that made this possible! This one has over 220 credits to boot! Which story do you want to see next?
Is there a story about BrayTech?, If so, I would like to watch it
Maybe a story on a lesser known exotic
I think Crimson or Trials of Osiris
Have you made a iron lords lore? That'd be cool in your video style
What ever happened to the legend of acrius video?
Clearly someone didn't pay attention to the story with Saladin. He wasn't taken prisoner per-say he was forced to become one of Caitl's Valus', and it was agreed that he could still return to the tower only to continue running the Iron Banner. He also brought Iron Banner to the Cabal and changed it up then brought back the "new" iron banner to us.
Yea i said someone didnt pay attention to the story there. And it made sense to me why he still hold iron banner
For it being "new" its just same pain, same players, different species involved
Yeah even isn't good in lore
I'm pretty sure he's exaggerating
Aktully 🤓
Saladin isn't a prisoner. He's a respected advisor.
His life is owned like a slave to the cabal for crow killing the psion. But the empress of the cabal respects saladin as an equal. He is still a slave though
The salad man had a wrinkly flag. He heated up his steam-pressing device. And then he did, in fact, iron banner.
evan: "Point of the Stag was right in the crosshairs of sunsetting"
Point of the Stag: (survives sunsetting)
i dont remember where i heard this, but when Saladin and Caitl got back to her ship they had a discussion on what to expect from him and near the end of the conversation he flat out tells her she cant keep him away from the Iron Banner, she laughs and said she wouldnt try and wanted to talk to him about introducing something similar into the Cabal
I think you misunderstood somewhat what happened to Saladin in the Season of the Risen. He was not taken captive by the Cabal, he pledged his allegiance and became a commander in the Cabal military.
Then, with the strengthening bond between the Cabal and the Vanguard, he was not only allowed to continue iron banner for the guardians, but also started running it for the Cabal too.
Caiatl saw the benefits of the training that iron banner brings and being allied with us, saw no reason to prevent us from continuing to get that training.
Except he never pledged his allegiance to the cabal, he was ready to die to pay for Crow's mistakes.
It was Caiatl's decision to make him a Bracus, something Saladin never expected. But yeah, he's not a prisoner either, so both of you are wrong ;P
If we were to have the IB mode brought in where every game was a different mode like clash, supremacy, rift and zone control it would make it better plus also having a new bunch of cabal themed weapons and maybe return a old D1 weapon per season would also make massive waves
Hearing Evan giving the Iron Banner armor (especially Wolfswood Cloak) it’s due at 9:18 just made my day
Thank you Evanf1997 you did a good job with the history of iron banner. The mode has change so much and you brought back ma y memories of those days. I do like that bungee hasn’t forgotten everything about the banner with young wolf line for those who did rise of iron and continuing the story of the iron lords. The lack of new content is kinda a trend of D2 pvp imo but this wolf hopes with Rasputin return we get a mini rise of lorn season. We can hope.
“Dresstiny” I love the effect zanny has had on the destiny community
As a veteran of destiny I loved and still do love iron banner the armor was unparalleled in its design so were its weapons and it hasn't lived up to that level of perfection in a long time. I wish it could one day bring back the original style of iron banner armor which is easily my favorite armor in destiny history.
Issue is - give old armour back - and people bitch about "recycled content". But if they do new armour, the same folks don't like anything.
Clever dragon, my beloved where art thou in D2?
Also, big props to the guys who got the iron burden emblem in D2.
Goddamm, that subscribed vs unsubscribed disparity is wild. I’ll go ahead and finally sub
It's because people are unsubscribing
This season’s Iron Banner was wack. I went through Destiny LFG on the discord several times and some were looking for lose farms, win farms, AFK farming, and people wanting high K/Ds that were unrealistic. Eventually got into a 6-stack and we owned each match. At the same time, it felt off. Felt like there were two extremes: either you lose horribly or win without mercy. Since we now gonna have two IB weeks per season, idk what the future will hold for this once beloved mode.
Beautiful video and i believe that iron banner will be good again
In the beyond light chapter, you forgot about the yak armor that was there in lost
Your videos are some of my favorites my man
Instead of being in the middle of the tower, Saladin should be off of the edge of the tower by Zavala standing on top of an ornate cabal thresher with the iron banner aesthetic. Or he could be off the edge up top where he used to be.
I'll take Universal Remote over Felwinter's Lie any day.
massively enjoyed this. rise of iron was my favorite time ever in Destiny history. best raid, armor, etc. IB was the way to get pinnacles before I got into a clan and raided. Well done!
Iron Banner: Gambit.
It's the future.
As a d1 veteran I played a ton of iron banner. I have a ton of amor and weapons from iron banner in my valt. It was the best mode until combined arms came out. Once destiny 2 came out, I enjoyed it for a little bit until it got boring. I wish they would bring back more og content.
u are one of the very few I insta subscribe... seeing only 6% subscribed makes me mad af
Wish I had a Time Machine to go back to the beginning of 2010 to relive the golden age of some games like d1 or CoD
all I really want is a shader in the color scheme of the original trials armor so I can apply it to my exile set, whoever made the cloak blue instead of black was an idiot.
Next video should be about the weapons that are mostly reskins to try to find some uniqueness in both d1 and d2
Fully agree about the armour, D1 Iron Banner armour was just badass culminating in the pinnacle that was the Rise of Iron set with the fire aesthetic upgrades. D2 Iron Banner armour, apart from one set that i think came out with forsaken, has been crap year after year.
P sure the flaming armour ornaments in rise of iron wasn't from iron banner
@@shshyie if that's the case then my bad, it was many years ago and i had forgotten
@@thedarknesscallingme nah is all gd, it's been so long but everyone talks bout how good that iron banner armour was when I'm p sure it came from the campaign lmao
I enjoyed IB when it rotated between Clash and Control.
I know that Bungo have said that Control is the flagship PvP mode as 'players need to be more engaged as a team' than Clash, but in a mode that so many players use the absolute cheapest weapons and abilities to get the win, being stuck in a team with Randoms who don't want to capture zones means that you're inevitably going to get mercies over and over.
At least with Clash you don't have to worry about how little your teammates care about capturing zones
_What if Iron Banner becomes a PvPvE mode?_
Like, have cabal soldiers on your side.
Reason number 200 why I liked d1 more than 2
@Trooper 1997 for real
Iron Banner has always been one of my favorite parts of destiny.
Sucks rift doesn't feel the same to me, but its still super fun.
On a side note, the first season multimach got reintroduced I got a god roll, and its been my main gun ever since.
Rift is ass but eruption is a really good mode
I’m glad I grabbed Ashraven’s Hood when I could as I still wear it regularly.
I think an exotic peice of amour per class in IB would be a cool new reward, titans get The 'As old as Iron' chestpiece, being like saladins chest piece with the fur cape. With hunters getting something based off of Ephirdite, and Warlocks getting something based off of felwinter.
You know Zavala's Office
We should sunset that and replace it with a min iron temple
Saladin is still the IB vendor because he is allowed to host the event while being one of Caiatl's Valus. He also brought IB to the Cabal and he and Caiatl exchanged ideas on how to freshen up the event. He wasn't necessarily taken prisoner (he became more of a respected advisor), and his ties to Caiatl's army further strengthened the human and cabal alliance.
I love your content, man, but I wish you would pay more attention to the story.
This video gave me depression xD
I really really really want the old armor back even though I never played D1 but it looks so fing good
You could reroll iron banner weapons from the very beginning, before house of wolves. That was the biggest draw to the mode in the beginning. House of wolves introduced rerolling to the rest of the weapons for a while
You stayed up till school the next morning too glad to know I wasn’t alone in my sophomore and junior year of high school🤣🤣🤣
Might've missed the Quiver Exploit time during TTK. I remember that. It's my flashback of fear.
Gosh dang it, Evan. Now I'm crying over what Iron Banner used to be, what it used to stand for, and most importantly... it's glorious armor in D1.
yeah it was a marvelous site and now i can barely play it cause it is only two weeks in a damn season
The only thing I would've added was that Felwinter's Lie spanded the entire season, and worst off, Bungie made the "tower defense" activity count towards the quest for Felwinter way, way late into the season where they caved in and added many, many buffs to each completion so the quest could be finished before Season of the Arrival
Evan, you're a blessing. Most underrated D2 UA-camr. You're great
Recycled Banner = Aluminium Banner
As a player who started in Beyond Light, Iron Banner was my favourite PvP mode. Me and my fireteam were amped for it every time.
I get why vets were let down but damn, I had an amazing time with Salad Fingers.
Got my free samples coming thx Evan
Also that taken king ib armor for titan has to be even to this day my favorite armor in destiny
Anybody remember that one and only week in D1 where Iron Banner Mayhem Clash was a thing? It was near the end of D1's lifecycle for sure but yea, that was fun. Only happened once
Only destiny youtuber that I can watch the videos multiple times
The only thing you missed was that the new weapons are fallen made ( just because is cool to know 🤣 ). Awesome video and thanks for what you do for this community!🔥🔥🔥🍻
That they didn’t bring back any of the older armors or even the shaders for the BIG IRON BANNER REWORK is still the biggest ball drop in my heart
"Was" an end game activity, free to play has absolutely ruined it, it will never be the same 😭
I did my first raid, wearing max light iron banner, when it was the only way a solo player could be max power outside of raids! What a time to be alive!!
also helped get pinnacles in a season as well
Great video Evan, really kept me interested
Oh man. Gunnora's Axe, or as my playgroup called it, the GUNAXE
Good times
Man I MISS D1 Iron Banner it hit different back then.
Iron banner idea : open world PVP 3s and Solos
Maybe in the EAZ and other locations.
I just want an iron banner: war.
Where you'd get into a match, 6v6, but everytime you do some objective it spawn a cabal for your team to fight with thus combining the current story, with the alliance, abd gambit kinda but not in a motey way and only one cabal guy per objective completion
Wouldn't it be great if the carpet were straight? i mean 4 years in a "new" tower and they didnt clean up this mess?
I got the sample pack. Usually that stuff is cap but it was legit 100% free. Can’t wait to try it
personally I don't think destiny has "the best gunplay of all time" like it feels good but it's certainly not the best ever made. The biggest thing about it that bothers me is you can't really hip fire most weapons
My biggest pet peeve about my destiny experience was that I never was able to experience d1 and especially rise of iron
I always like your videos , I just find how you voice over them is fun and informative. You can see the hard work you put in to them.
Also I did the code for the samples and it worked . Absolutely free . Thanks 👍
Finally someone fuckin says it, give us back the D1 armor sets. To this day in my opinion they are some of the best looking Iron Banner armor sets.
After watching this I just need to say that all I understood was that nothing changed. Your problem isn't that Iron Banner hasn't gotten worse, but has stayed stagnant.
"Renewed focus on PvP" btw.
>Can't even replace the Iron Banner vendor even though they did 5 years ago.
Being honest if they brought back the Taken King armor sets, especially the PS exclusive pieces, I'd barely ever take them off, once they'd been turned into ornaments :P
I'm convinced Evan is basically the r/publicfreakouts of destiny, recording the good and bad of the ride
I never did get the og iron banner pulse but god damn did I love the handcannon and scout
I would like for a reintroduced efrideets spear like felwinters lie...efrideet should come back and give us the quest...or something along those lines.
I still have some iron banner tokens from right before the Iron banner rework recently
Don't worry Evan, I watched the whole thing.
You completely forgot to mention the ugly new set of armor we got!
omg I never even knew that cartoonz and delerious ever played destiny back in the day!! That's such a strange thought for me lol
I can’t wait to try the gamersupps free sample
Destiny 1 The Taken King = Destiny Prime
Destiny 1 Rise of Iron = Destiny Perfected
Fantastic video as ever @evanf1997 but can't believe you released this video on a week when I can't just go and play IB lol. (Even if I do get steam-rolled in Rift)
I still dream about the Tower Walk...
Such a great video mr nave
You can get the console exclusive IB armor from Lord Saladdin now on Xbox
Bro what's up good job making content I enjoy watching it a ton.
13:03 - Also, aimbots.
I love hearing someone ask me why I refer to Felwinter’s shotgun as the Felwinter’s sniper- you just had to be there in D1 lol
The good era pf Clever Dragon
Ngl I'd love to get a destiny themed shaker
Guys what if felwinter didn't lie😳
Awesome vid as always!
I would say about mid year one iron lagger was the peak
You think I'm gonna watch you over Broman's Raid day Tailgate?
Did you pay your editors yet?
@@swat1343 You're off by about $2k
I play Iron Banner every season, for better and worse. This was a great video, and I still learned some stuff. Keep 'em coming!
I NEED Bungie to bring back the taken king IB armor set back cuz the drip NEVER hit the way the titan armor did especially the PS exclusive ones
I had not realised how little I care about PVP in D2 until now.
Back in D1 I split my time 50/50 between PVP and PVE, sometimes getting closure to 70% PVP when all of the weeklies I could do were done in PVE, however now in D2, its more like a 90/10 split in favor of PVE, PVP just is not fun anymore in D2 compared to how it was in D1.
“Tell me destiny is boring rn with nothing to talk about without telling me destiny is boring rn with nothing to talk about”
They dropped the ball when it comes to Iron banner armor designs in D2
Is it just me or at times does he sound similar to datto
"Iron banner armor hasn't looked this good" during vanilla Destiny chapter, but shows rise of iron and TTK armor.
Rose tinted glasses as usual
@Trooper 1997 That's an entirely subjective opinion.
Love to see the bill wurtz style applied to destiny history
Bill wurtz is a legendary UA-camr
great video! very inciteful, but what the hell do you mean Saladin is Caiatl's captive.
I read this title and thought to myself, “this can’t end well”.
Clever Dragon
Still my fav Pulse rifle
Hey guys, I think I deserve a thank you for killing all of Saladin’s frie- I mean basically make iron banner a thing because his friends died!