Of all the systems I’ve reviewed on YT, this is the simplest, and thus I believe is the best. Adding a Tee section and wafer valve further up the pipe (about 1m) will provide control of the air flow and the oil burn rate.
Amazingly simple Great video Would this be safe to burn inside with the chimney if the pipe was safely secured? Of course using a monoxide detector close by.
Hi. Amazing video burning waste oil. Am from India. Could I know what is the minimum chimney height required for this set up go get a consistent strong upward draw.
This fire pit is one of a few covered pits that is on the list ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxAU9pOCSV9Y5JprooHvfxTpOrt4hx8uRM of approved products for Disney Fort Wilderness. The product served its purpose well and provided excellent fires throughout the evening. We were able to open the door and do s'mores, but I had to be careful because the handle was a bit hot on occasions. Additionally, I wish they had replaced some of the standard nuts with lock nuts in some places. We lost the door handle after just a couple of days of usage. Not a deal breaker, just a recommendation. I still give it 5 stars.
I was thinking if a person welded that tube in side a tank of some sort so it can gather heat then weld 2 5" pipes blow air in one and heat out the other would heat a small shed or insulated garage real nice. Wonder if it would burn used engine oil
2 ideas: weld some plates to outcome pipe to let heat air better. Make income cold air pipe straight to the flame - in order to block sucking warm air from the room, it should let burn better
"These fumes can cause what is known as “metal fume fever” or “zinc shakes.” Metal fume fever can cause symptoms that include fever, headaches, nausea, chest pain, and more. Inhalation of these fumes can also cause long-term health problems, as the lead present in the galvanized steel can vaporize along with the zinc."
It's generally most toxic in the first really hot burn. First burns should always be outside and safe. It did worry me that the video creator mentioned welding the galvanized "chimney pipe". I wouldn't want to weld that stuff at all
I have a mobile home that has a gas burner (type) central heating (vents and duct work are on the floor) that uses propane. But I can't afford the price of propane any longer. I'm not running 3 - 1,500 watts space heaters trying to just keep my living space warm. And there's 6 rooms (cold toilet seat is something to get used to lol) that I have blocked off, so they stay meat locker cold. I've been trying to brainstorm a diy wick system using waste oil. By the looks of it, winter will be gone before I figure something out, lol. It's been 19⁰F at night. My dog doesn't even come from under the covers lol
Hi, Thanks for a very interesting video. I like the idea of the double pot for insulation in the vapourisation zone. I have been thinking of insulating ceramic for the same reason. Is the burner pipe a close fit in the burn chamber with all the holes in it? Is the extra chimney necessary for providing the required draft or is it just to take the exhaust away? Tim
GOOD JOB!!!!! Try placing approximately 2 inch thick insulation for the first 8 inches after the air draft holes, that should decrease the warm up time.
Cool dude. Nice job. I've been experimenting with the oil and wicks and thinking about the drips. I got some 1/4" copper tube and 1/4" copper coupling. What did you follow for making the drip system? I like the idea of a drip system. I am doing this in a van and it has a little stove i made and 3"exhaust pipe for chimney. I've tried carbon felt for a wick but can't keep it lit so I will try adding more alcohol next time to start.
Forgot say ♥️ the video but need close up or drawing of stainless pots , and drill size. Nice hot furnace ( careful on flow rate white flame is 2,400- 2900f too hot flow rate )
temperature has on the color ot flames. Scientists have learned that red flames correspond to temperatures from 980 F up to 1800 F. Flames turn orange when the temperature reaches 2,000 F to 2,200 F. When temperatures approach 2,400 F to 2700f they appear white. I was getting 1600f resulting in repairs to thin stainless steel heat changer but any impurities were vaporized and turned to dust. That was my first converted wvo heater block installation on Mr heater forced air heater. Now have wmo double barrel furnace with heat exchanger yrs ago 10 was on wvo (So safety says should reduce flow rate for lower temp) hope this helps
Nice and simple setup but it does not run clean. The minute camera panning up to the top of the stack then panning back down before seeing the any smoke giving away that camera man doesn't want to show the smoke to the viewer.
Dude, my new prototype runs clean completely, this first one was kind of moody, sometime clean sometime not but in any case it was not smoking like hell.
Actually, you would need to add larger holes but higher up the pipe so the air can bypass the furnace. Install a sleeve that can adjust the amount of bypass (from nothing to maximum) and there you have it - a controllable burner.
@@dave858man2I'd really appreciate a response to that as well. I'm trying to make one of these myself with a 6 inch exhaust but I'm not quite getting the high heat so the build up of the waste in the bowl is a problem for running over a long period of time.
not necessarily, it has to be the right amount of air and chimney draft, to much air will not burn clean, not enough air will not burn cleat also , to much air draft will burn clean but too fast, not enough chimney draft will smoke, I regulate the air draft with the amount of holes supplying the fire with air. this way you create the proper vortex . Its not easy to burn the oil with out blower but my house heater works pretty well ua-cam.com/video/uk9M0H_SUzQ/v-deo.html
Great build but think de-tune it . Ie Less oil flow White flame cool bottom great but top is melting metal temperature 2370 + f A clear picture or video of all stainless cylinders hole sizes would be a blessing ❤ your build video
Surround it with more heat absorbers , free standing bricked keep the heat confined where you want it. Take bricks indoors Greenhouse, tent or any where to keep the chill off.runs coil around it get the water flowing in it to a tank or bath, or radiator inside the property. Fire inside exhaust outside after passing it through a coil in a sand drum and exhaust fumes outside.
Woww that amazing, soo powerfull..beautifull flames..im gona make one! But im gona juse this heater in my home..how to reduce the flame?..by give lesser oil..or lesser holes..i like to put it higher and lower whenever i need..by the way thanx🎉
Easiest way to convert it is to weld a round 'shelf' around the flue. That gives you a space to rest a tiny skillet or a pot for boiling water. Multiple shelves at different heights would give you temperature control.
This is a great burner design and it's running very cleanly. But WHY?! what is it for? You aren't distilling water or heating air to pump into the house or heating water. You'll never warm up the outdoors. You aren't cooking on it. What is it for???
Hey my binoculars are no use for watching online video content. It might have been a good idea to have a friend hold your camera within 2 meters so we could see what you were talking about all the way over there. Hahaha
I would suspect that during the video, at the break point and just before the burner is fired up, an air pipe has been buried in the gravel to create this impressive and noisy " natural draft" jet engine flame. I have made a copy of this and there is no way that the intense updraft can be created without using an air blower. I am not impressed with this person's dishonesty.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but It's a little extreme to accuse him of being dishonest just because you could not reproduce his results. He gave no details and there are many parameters at play. He may have just stumbled across a combination that worked. We don't even know how long it took him to get these results. Maybe next time voice your suspicions without flat out accusing someone.
@@CRuM770 If the burner was shown being set up on the concrete rather than the gravel and then lit without a break in the video, it would be more convincing. Until then I stand by my original comments, as I have no reason to accept that this burner can perform as shown without an additional forced air supply (I have reviewed all burners that I have located on youtube to substantiate my statement)
@@tonymoore3571 here's why I'm not impressed with your "dishonesty". 1. Rocket stoves can sound similar to this if constructed properly. 2. All burners that I've seen with a blower and holes in the combustion chamber shoot flames out of all the holes. 3. Longer flue pipes mean faster air flow. 4. This UA-camr achieved a similar sound, albeit softer and slower with only a 2 m flue. ua-cam.com/video/kfdWPxYC-Gk/v-deo.htmlsi=6AVklumOAjnMEZak Just because you don't know how something works, doesn't mean you are justified in accusing them of lying. It's great to think critically, but it's also good to recognize when you may not have all the facts.
i disagree, most likely legit, have had the same noise coming from a 3m chimney, approx. 70cm wide, over my forge, even with a small fire going i could hear the rush of air many meters away, so a hot burn with small but long chimney will give a good loud draft
don't see the use for this, looks very unstable, i wouldn't use it for heating anything, accident waiting to happen. Maybe a outside party, all i can think to use it for.
Of all the systems I’ve reviewed on YT, this is the simplest, and thus I believe is the best.
Adding a Tee section and wafer valve further up the pipe (about 1m) will provide control of the air flow and the oil burn rate.
Great heater for a tall TeePee or tent. To avoid poison gas don’t use galvanized pipe in confined area.
Great build.
Amazingly simple Great video Would this be safe to burn inside with the chimney if the pipe was safely secured? Of course using a monoxide detector close by.
Hi. Amazing video burning waste oil. Am from India. Could I know what is the minimum chimney height required for this set up go get a consistent strong upward draw.
This fire pit is one of a few covered pits that is on the list ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxAU9pOCSV9Y5JprooHvfxTpOrt4hx8uRM of approved products for Disney Fort Wilderness. The product served its purpose well and provided excellent fires throughout the evening. We were able to open the door and do s'mores, but I had to be careful because the handle was a bit hot on occasions. Additionally, I wish they had replaced some of the standard nuts with lock nuts in some places. We lost the door handle after just a couple of days of usage. Not a deal breaker, just a recommendation. I still give it 5 stars.
Very simple extremely efficient and effective no welding great work dying anxious to make one . THANKS
thanks
That is awesome dude. I smell fries 🍟 😋
I was thinking if a person welded that tube in side a tank of some sort so it can gather heat then weld 2 5" pipes blow air in one and heat out the other would heat a small shed or insulated garage real nice. Wonder if it would burn used engine oil
Yes it burns engine oil even better
2 ideas: weld some plates to outcome pipe to let heat air better. Make income cold air pipe straight to the flame - in order to block sucking warm air from the room, it should let burn better
very nice design but remember galvanized pipe is very very toxic when burning
Why, galvaniz is zn it same material for roff in my country
"These fumes can cause what is known as “metal fume fever” or “zinc shakes.” Metal fume fever can cause symptoms that include fever, headaches, nausea, chest pain, and more. Inhalation of these fumes can also cause long-term health problems, as the lead present in the galvanized steel can vaporize along with the zinc."
It's generally most toxic in the first really hot burn. First burns should always be outside and safe. It did worry me that the video creator mentioned welding the galvanized "chimney pipe". I wouldn't want to weld that stuff at all
Everything is toxic when it's burning.
Yeah like burning waste motor oíl is so healthy and enviromental friendly tho.. Yep sure..
I have a mobile home that has a gas burner (type) central heating (vents and duct work are on the floor) that uses propane. But I can't afford the price of propane any longer. I'm not running 3 - 1,500 watts space heaters trying to just keep my living space warm. And there's 6 rooms (cold toilet seat is something to get used to lol) that I have blocked off, so they stay meat locker cold.
I've been trying to brainstorm a diy wick system using waste oil. By the looks of it, winter will be gone before I figure something out, lol. It's been 19⁰F at night. My dog doesn't even come from under the covers lol
I love it. I have a question. Could the chimney be coiled so it doesn't have to go so high?
That’s a good question, I don’t think so but try it and let me know.
The higher the chimney the more draw you have, the top should be higher then any wind barriers for maximum effect.
Could you use a pipe damper to help control the air flow as well
Yes
Can you please give pipe diameter and hole number and size
holes are 5/16 pipe is 4" ID but is better if you just buy the utensil holder ebay.us/QP4Cz0
Hi, Thanks for a very interesting video. I like the idea of the double pot for insulation in the vapourisation zone. I have been thinking of insulating ceramic for the same reason. Is the burner pipe a close fit in the burn chamber with all the holes in it? Is the extra chimney necessary for providing the required draft or is it just to take the exhaust away? Tim
It is close fit but not necessary, Chimney is necessary, the longer the better,
@@VladFredK Thanks for your reply. Tim
Such a beautiful oil burner.
Yes it is, thank you
GOOD JOB!!!!!
Try placing approximately 2 inch thick insulation for the first 8 inches after the air draft holes, that should decrease the warm up time.
so its a rocket chimney
How do you keep the oil inlet from melting? Is it copper?
Yes it’s copper, most heat is inside the pipe, the copper tube is on the outside so not enough heat to melt it.
@@VladFredK very cool, thanks
Cool dude. Nice job. I've been experimenting with the oil and wicks and thinking about the drips. I got some 1/4" copper tube and 1/4" copper coupling. What did you follow for making the drip system? I like the idea of a drip system. I am doing this in a van and it has a little stove i made and 3"exhaust pipe for chimney. I've tried carbon felt for a wick but can't keep it lit so I will try adding more alcohol next time to start.
it will be dificult to make it work in small scale with out forced air.
Forgot say ♥️ the video but need close up or drawing of stainless pots , and drill size. Nice hot furnace ( careful on flow rate white flame is 2,400- 2900f too hot flow rate )
Can you explain please
@@VladFredK
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_temperature
www.webexhibits.org/causesofcolor/3.html
temperature has on the color ot
flames. Scientists have learned that
red flames correspond to
temperatures from 980 F up to
1800 F. Flames turn orange when
the temperature reaches 2,000 F
to 2,200 F. When temperatures
approach 2,400 F to 2700f they appear white.
I was getting 1600f resulting in repairs to thin stainless steel heat changer but any impurities were vaporized and turned to dust. That was my first converted wvo heater block installation on Mr heater forced air heater. Now have wmo double barrel furnace with heat exchanger yrs ago 10 was on wvo
(So safety says should reduce flow rate for lower temp) hope this helps
I agree. The design is very good , but the rate of oil must be closely monitored so that the metal is prevented from melting.
Will it still work without the long tube. Just the stainless pot and and the utensil holder. Basically I would like to use it as a waste Oil stove.
No
Отличная горелка 👍♨️
Fantastic. Can I burn waste oil in a residential area? ( Is there any smoke or smell)??
it doesn't smoke or smell
Nice and simple setup but it does not run clean. The minute camera panning up to the top of the stack then panning back down before seeing the any smoke giving away that camera man doesn't want to show the smoke to the viewer.
Dude, my new prototype runs clean completely, this first one was kind of moody,
sometime clean sometime not but in any case it was not smoking like hell.
@@VladFredK Dude your new prototype and first one, are you sure you know what you talking about? Completely good for you.
Can you turn the flame down? I've been trying veg oil with cotton rags and either they burn like a little candle or burn super intensely.
yes i can watch this ua-cam.com/video/zvV_cMaagQ8/v-deo.html
It looks like there is a pipe that runs in the chimney that is plugged into something buy you roof. Like a blower?
It looks like you have been smoking something good
Lesson the air for smaller burn in the same set up?
Yes
Actually, you would need to add larger holes but higher up the pipe so the air can bypass the furnace. Install a sleeve that can adjust the amount of bypass (from nothing to maximum) and there you have it - a controllable burner.
That’s cool! What color is the flame inside, is it yellow or blue? If it’s blue then it’s burning as clean and as hot as it can be
It’s not blue but it’s hard to see it because it’s so bright
Great job👍massive heat from waste😎a pity it's quite noisy though 🤔
yeah but I kind of like this sound, it sounds better then oil heater with blower
What’s the longest duration of time you have run your heater? Could it run continuously in the winter? How thick is the steel chimney at the base?
@@dave858man2I'd really appreciate a response to that as well. I'm trying to make one of these myself with a 6 inch exhaust but I'm not quite getting the high heat so the build up of the waste in the bowl is a problem for running over a long period of time.
May i use used engine oil ?
yes that actually burns better
@@VladFredKI live in Alaska and I smell when people are burning motor oil, do you think in those cases the burn wasn’t getting enough air?
not necessarily, it has to be the right amount of air and chimney draft, to much air will not burn clean, not enough air will not burn cleat also , to much air draft will burn clean but too fast, not enough chimney draft will smoke, I regulate the air draft with the amount of holes supplying the fire with air. this way you create the proper vortex . Its not easy to burn the oil with out blower but my house heater works pretty well ua-cam.com/video/uk9M0H_SUzQ/v-deo.html
Before I "steal" your idea ;) do you think it would get hot enough to use it for a sauna stove?
Yes it would, maybe even too hot
yeah thats it man lmao steam in oil steam lmao!
@@chicagorc3967 English, please.
cumba dow singdlish rand dooey . Sorry I no speak Yankee Redneck@@deltafour1212
Great build but think de-tune it . Ie Less oil flow
White flame cool bottom great but top is melting metal temperature 2370 + f
A clear picture or video of all stainless cylinders hole sizes would be a blessing ❤ your build video
Awesome!
What happens if it rains?
that would be disaster
Thanks for sharing subscribed great information
A classic smudge pot would give as much heat and be MUCH SAFER!
And what is classic smudge pot?
@@VladFredK
GOOGLE IT
@@WhatDadIsUpTo True. A Biden voter might try lick the base. He needs a guard system to stop that happening to make it safer.
Surround it with more heat absorbers , free standing bricked keep the heat confined where you want it. Take bricks indoors Greenhouse, tent or any where to keep the chill off.runs coil around it get the water flowing in it to a tank or bath, or radiator inside the property. Fire inside exhaust outside after passing it through a coil in a sand drum and exhaust fumes outside.
sounds good
you mean like this ua-cam.com/video/zvV_cMaagQ8/v-deo.html
We have a furnace for used motor oil for heat ur the workshop
during the winter.
Amazing!
Woww that amazing, soo powerfull..beautifull flames..im gona make one! But im gona juse this heater in my home..how to reduce the flame?..by give lesser oil..or lesser holes..i like to put it higher and lower whenever i need..by the way thanx🎉
just use less oil to reduce the flame
WOW great job Sir.
Sir would you please give the details of your project?
All the details are in the video, Sorry but I don't know what other details would you want.
can you make a design for cooking?
Not without blower
@@VladFredKgleich wie rocket stove, und geht auch fur kuhe
Easiest way to convert it is to weld a round 'shelf' around the flue. That gives you a space to rest a tiny skillet or a pot for boiling water. Multiple shelves at different heights would give you temperature control.
Thanks very much for posting that.
Would this work with triple wall stainless steal stove pipe
I don’t see why not
Number 1000!
How many litres an hour would you say
I would say about a liter per hour
I didn't see you show how the oil gets into the combustion area
Through the holes of the utensil holder
This is a great burner design and it's running very cleanly. But WHY?! what is it for? You aren't distilling water or heating air to pump into the house or heating water. You'll never warm up the outdoors. You aren't cooking on it. What is it for???
I’m working on it to heat up the house 🏡 this winter. I’ll upload it if I’m successful.
@@VladFredK oh that's cool!!! Good luck!
@@VladFredK im trying to make a much smaller one to heat an RV with vegetable oil and used olive oil and diesel.
That will be tough, I find the small ones very hard to keep stable flame. but good luck. Let me know how it goes.
here is what is for ua-cam.com/video/zvV_cMaagQ8/v-deo.html
Nice job
Thanks
It's a well regulated grease fire.
muy bueno amigo
Hey my binoculars are no use for watching online video content. It might have been a good idea to have a friend hold your camera within 2 meters so we could see what you were talking about all the way over there. Hahaha
@@johngibson1256 sorry I don’t have any friends, you are the only one hahaha
@@VladFredK how much oil does it use per hour ?
@ it depends how much you feed it, my lowest was 4 gallons per day and highest 16 gallons per day
Good 👍
I can't see what you are doing camera too far
I live thé content
Looks like it would start a nice fire.
Great, now what use is it, I just dont see it fitting in with my decor
Then don’t do it
Caution Dirty toxic heating caution
Thank you.
I would suspect that during the video, at the break point and just before the burner is fired up, an air pipe has been buried in the gravel to create this impressive and noisy " natural draft" jet engine flame. I have made a copy of this and there is no way that the intense updraft can be created without using an air blower. I am not impressed with this person's dishonesty.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but It's a little extreme to accuse him of being dishonest just because you could not reproduce his results. He gave no details and there are many parameters at play. He may have just stumbled across a combination that worked. We don't even know how long it took him to get these results.
Maybe next time voice your suspicions without flat out accusing someone.
@@CRuM770 If the burner was shown being set up on the concrete rather than the gravel and then lit without a break in the video, it would be more convincing. Until then I stand by my original comments, as I have no reason to accept that this burner can perform as shown without an additional forced air supply (I have reviewed all burners that I have located on youtube to substantiate my statement)
@@tonymoore3571 here's why I'm not impressed with your "dishonesty".
1. Rocket stoves can sound similar to this if constructed properly.
2. All burners that I've seen with a blower and holes in the combustion chamber shoot flames out of all the holes.
3. Longer flue pipes mean faster air flow.
4. This UA-camr achieved a similar sound, albeit softer and slower with only a 2 m flue. ua-cam.com/video/kfdWPxYC-Gk/v-deo.htmlsi=6AVklumOAjnMEZak
Just because you don't know how something works, doesn't mean you are justified in accusing them of lying. It's great to think critically, but it's also good to recognize when you may not have all the facts.
A dead straight long chimney like that will create a superb draft hence the noise...
i disagree, most likely legit, have had the same noise coming from a 3m chimney, approx. 70cm wide, over my forge, even with a small fire going i could hear the rush of air many meters away, so a hot burn with small but long chimney will give a good loud draft
don't see the use for this, looks very unstable, i wouldn't use it for heating anything, accident waiting to happen. Maybe a outside party, all i can think to use it for.
No kidding, I thought I already said it’s a temporary setup
camera too far away and wrong angle to show anything, mic too far away...it would be nice if people would view/edit at least once before posting.
Then make your own video. I’d love to see it
Its not clear what are you doing..far away from cam!!
Yes show us from about 10 feet away so we can;t see what your doing.. Duh.
It’s not a rocket science that you would have to be studying up close and personal
Another waste of money by using butane..😅😅
propane LP