When I drive my Black 1986 Fiero GT, it's a driving experience. It gets a lot of looks, and people 40 and under always ask what it is. I can appreciate becoming engaged with going through the gears of the 4 speed manual transmission while creating the crackle of the exhaust when downshifting. The way the road feels inches below you as you carve the pavement feeling the feedback through the steering wheel. It won't throw you back hard. However, it loves to be thrown around a twisty road. Anyone who owns or owns one knows exactly what I mean. That old saying "don't knock it, till you try it" rings true for the Fiero.
I had a 88 Fiero with Isuzu front supension. So many parts went bad in the same year, worst one was the steering box ket go as I pulled in mg driveway then nothing. My steering wheel was disconnected and was freewheeeling like a video game controller, scariest thing to experience realising that coukd of happened on the highway.or city roads.
I've just acquired a 1988 Fiero GT black/black with 15,200. original miles; seller has owned the car for the last sixteen years, always garaged climate-controlled, a properly maintained collector car. I've wanted a Fiero since reading Car & Drivers description of the just-announced Fiero in its August 1983 issue. Will look like fun in the garage next to a Ferrari 575M Maranello.
Just imagine if Pontiac was still around making the Fiero. That new GM 2.0 turbo with a 5 speed manual transmission, adjustable magnetic suspension and electronic limited slip differential. Yeah, that would be awesome
I miss the old Motorweek intro and closing theme song... oh well, at least they still have the muscle car/car with loud muffler at the end credits. lol
Good call. That would have been a great engine for the fiero. Just imagine a turbo quad 4 like Oldsmobile set a top speed record with... just defined lol
Love my '88 Fiero GT T-Top. Unfortunately it was too much competition for the GM flagship Corvette and GM killed this young potential super car to early in its evolution.
. Super fun, quiet, comfortable car to drive and can be picked up used for under $1,000... I have '85 5-speed one... rated nearly 50 MPG on Hiway... and still a head turner...
+Mario Iacolucci It's still a cool car. I've owned 4 of them and still continue to drive one today. Also Ive beaten a supercharged MR2. A few of Motorweek's comments were incorrect.
I had an 85 GT 4spd. I don't get their complaint about the steering. It wasn't as heavy as they make it out to be. It wasn't light, like a power unit. But it was not really hard to turn, even if not moving. It gave lots of feedback through the wheel. I liked it myself. I also had an 84 Trans Am L69 WS6. The Fiero was the more fun to drive.
MR2 was faster but right the Fieros in my opinion looks more exotic specially when the flying butress came out which the MR2 copied but not better design. Mine was very reliable reaching 200k without any issues till I sold it. Missed it.
This car came out almost 40 years ago and I still want one. It's just about perfect. It's a shame that the penny pinchers running GM in the 80's killed it off when the engineers were just starting to get it perfect. They completely redesigned the suspension for the last year. That's just ignorant in my opinion. The sales would've gotten better once people got a taste of the new suspension setup. GM was just too impatient and too focused on sales volume. They probably lost money the last year. But it would've paid for itself if they had kept making them
I’ve always wanted a 1984 or 1985 pre facelift, but I came across a 1987 for only $600, the paint is all faded red, but it drove back 55 miles, but I already just bought $300 in parts, to make it run like new and suspension, it only has 118k miles
One could only imagine what that car could have been with engineering upgrades! But it would surely have had a Quad 4 and later on, probably a turbo 2 liter similar to the Pontiac Solstice and still better suspension... BUT GM being GM, taking stupid decisions fairly consistently, also killed the Firebird and the Camaro later on... While the Mustang was still enjoying strong sales, replacing them with a half baked weird styled pickup and a oh so bland but excellent GTO... The Fiero would have died later with the whole Pontiac line anyway. To keep, ugh... Old people's car division Buick. All this because they sold well in China. Typical.
Really dude?? Pay attention!! This is a flashback episode, which Motorweek did occasionally BITD. This episode aired in 1994... READ the end credits and date. Also, cars were ALOT better looking back then... at least you could tell an import from a domestic. Nowadays, they ALL look alike.
dejong93 I will concur with Ronald Tartaglia in that your comment was a douchebag thing to say and would like to add that you ARE truly, in fact, a fucking douchebag!
I personally think the 1984 model with the iron duke was mainly responsible for the fieros death. Second main reason was underpowered engines. The 1984 fiero was the red headed stepchild. The Indy version I wouldn’t mind owning it’s very rare today. Using the 4cyl iron duke was the worst idea.
Ronald Tartaglia yeah that probably was the main reasons for the fieros death. The Pontiac fiero has a subframe that’s capable of supporting many engine types. I’m willing to bet other engine sizes were tested at some point in the development of the fiero. If that was the case the Chevy corvette would’ve been eaten for lunch.
they had a turbo 3.1L ready to go for the 2nd generation fiero. codename porscheeater. you can find it by a quick google search. it was much faster than the vette and the whole thing was killed by GM because of that.
@@ebperformance8436 : Pontiac engineers ran several V-8 prototypes around the Detroit & Pontiac Michigan area as early as summer of '83! One test mule Fiero even had an all aluminum V8 that Corvette engineers were terrified of! A little know fact is when the C4 Vette was finally released, Corvette engineers & Pontiac engineers got together for a little inter-company schenagins & the brand new "state of the art" Corvette was DESTROYED by the V8 Fiero every time they raced!!! Some Fiero & Corvette forums have threads dedicated to these test competitions. Sadly for Fiero, once the Brass at GM caught wind of this, the full on sabotage of Fiero was on. As far as GM was concerned back then as it still is today, Corvette is "King" & Fiero engineers were forced to work with one hand tied behind their backs after those races took place & GM forbid Pontiac from testing the V8 test mules any further & made it very clear that the Fiero would never have a V8 engine authorized for production. Sad but true. I've built up my '87 GT to more modern standards - suspension & brake wise & am currently saving up for a LS4/ 4T65 conversion. I'm also trying to figure out how to install some sort of power steering.
Mighty 944?! Yeah right...Smoked one in an 87 300zx, back in 88. When both cars were still new. Very, very close race, but the Porsche lost steam at the top end. That's when the Z overtook it.
GM glued 2 turds together and came up with a Fiero. Took the front suspension of a Chevette and put it up front, and a Chevy Citation suspension/powertrain out back. Voila! Poop.
They upgraded the suspension the last year they made them in 1988. Sad thing about that car is the chassis is super strong and they could have designed another body style to fit it.
Ronald de Rooij, looking at your pic, YOU look older and sicklier than the whole MW cast. The cast of Motorweek is alive and well, probably will outlive you.
I love my 88 GT. I have owned it since November of 1987. I absolutely love driving it. Runs and drives like new.
Bob Varsha was an awesome commentator for IMSA GTP in the late 80's and early 90's. I'm looking forward to driving my Fiero GT.
I loved my Fiero. It was a wonderful car
When I drive my Black 1986 Fiero GT, it's a driving experience. It gets a lot of looks, and people 40 and under always ask what it is.
I can appreciate becoming engaged with going through the gears of the 4 speed manual transmission while creating the crackle of the exhaust when downshifting. The way the road feels inches below you as you carve the pavement feeling the feedback through the steering wheel. It won't throw you back hard. However, it loves to be thrown around a twisty road. Anyone who owns or owns one knows exactly what I mean. That old saying "don't knock it, till you try it" rings true for the Fiero.
I really like Fieros...and Pontiacs.
I had a 88 Fiero with Isuzu front supension. So many parts went bad in the same year, worst one was the steering box ket go as I pulled in mg driveway then nothing. My steering wheel was disconnected and was freewheeeling like a video game controller, scariest thing to experience realising that coukd of happened on the highway.or city roads.
I've just acquired a 1988 Fiero GT black/black with 15,200. original miles; seller has owned the car for the last sixteen years, always garaged climate-controlled, a properly maintained collector car. I've wanted a Fiero since reading Car & Drivers description of the just-announced Fiero in its August 1983 issue. Will look like fun in the garage next to a Ferrari 575M Maranello.
Thanks for this compilation!!! I'm a proud Fiero owner, it's a white 84 Indy Fiero. I'm still working on it to make it look like brand new
One of the best car I've owned, reliable, beautiful, fun and surprisingly good in snow with the stick 5-speed transmission
good at u turns?
@@MF-cq9hs Only the 88's have a good turning radius, because only they received the proper suspension that car was designed to have all along.
Cool video
I just bought my 1st fiero a few months ago and did a 3800 supercharged swap.
Its neat to see some history on the car like this
Very proud of this excellent compilation ! Rarely saw them seated in the studio !
Thank You ! Never Ever see an MR2
I used to own a 88 Formula. Greatest car I've ever owned. Owned 3 Fieros since then. Currently own a 84 SE 79,000 miles in 2016
Sweet I just got a 85 fiero Se with only 100000km on
What happened to 88 formula?
Just imagine if Pontiac was still around making the Fiero. That new GM 2.0 turbo with a 5 speed manual transmission, adjustable magnetic suspension and electronic limited slip differential. Yeah, that would be awesome
We still own our 1986 2M4 automatic. 99% showroom floor original. White! Big time "best in class" local show winner. Not for Sale.
I miss my 84 2M4 SE. Black/Grey. Fully loaded.
Pontiac Fiero: Pontiac's pinnacle sports car soon to succeed the Corvette
General Motors: I'm about to end this car's whole career.
I miss the old Motorweek intro and closing theme song... oh well, at least they still have the muscle car/car with loud muffler at the end credits. lol
boofdfast as I recall the first one was a 6000 STE & the second was a front-drive gen 1 Bonneville SSE with a broken muffler according to MW
Hot80s, really? I always thought it was a 3rd gen 1982-92 Pontiac Firebird or Trans Am. It least it was a Pontiac. lol
The exhaust sound was a recording of staff member Craig Singhaus' '78 Ford truck, as I recall.
The quad 4 HO was right around the corner. I'm still bummed.
Good call. That would have been a great engine for the fiero. Just imagine a turbo quad 4 like Oldsmobile set a top speed record with... just defined lol
@@ztwntyn8 i'M sure the aftermarket would have come with turbo kits for it.
Motorweek big V8 rumble at the end. Priceless...
Love the fastback
Love my '88 Fiero GT T-Top. Unfortunately it was too much competition for the GM flagship Corvette and GM killed this young potential super car to early in its evolution.
Fiat X19 and Toyota MR2 were way better handling cars.Fiero was just an ill- conceived parts-bin project.
Great video I'm glad you included every year. I think this is the first video I've ever commented to :-) great job
Fiero FTW
Thank you for posting this.
guys, just imagine the looks of the 2016 Pontiac fiero, how cool would that be
yeah!
We had a Fiero in 2009. It was called the Saturn Sky another great lil sports car!
Komanelli The God, the Saturn Sky is NO Fiero, fuck off. I guess a Sentra is an R34 Skyline GT-R, then?!
Imagine if Hendrix had lived, imagine if Bruce Lee had lived... Sometimes it takes just a match to light the world on fire.
@@ryoamora8655
Hey, chill !
I miss my '86 Fiero GT. That was a real head tuner. I could never figure out why my RPM fluctuated during idle.
Little part called tach filter.. costs like 10 bucks or so
GM can’t grow. It’s crippled by the corvette. Something new and cool won’t last if it competes with the corvette.
If they can’t kill it, it’ll be hobbled
Love my 87GT
. Super fun, quiet, comfortable car to drive and can be picked up used for under $1,000... I have '85 5-speed one... rated nearly 50 MPG on Hiway... and still a head turner...
I still like it but I was too young remember split second
Masterpiece
At 6'7" I didn't so much get into my Fiero GT as put it on. Plenty of room. That always amazed me.
I have an 86 se. It's great as a daily driver!
Me too! 2M6 SE
man right when it was getting good thay droped it danm ...
it was such a cool car back then
+Mario Iacolucci
It's still a cool car. I've owned 4 of them and still continue to drive one today. Also Ive beaten a supercharged MR2. A few
of Motorweek's comments were incorrect.
+Dan Yarger cool dude!
I had an 85 GT 4spd. I don't get their complaint about the steering. It wasn't as heavy as they make it out to be. It wasn't light, like a power unit. But it was not really hard to turn, even if not moving. It gave lots of feedback through the wheel. I liked it myself. I also had an 84 Trans Am L69 WS6. The Fiero was the more fun to drive.
The MR2 was the superior car, but the Fiero was the most interesting and easier to work on.
You didn't have to work on the MR2, it was reliable...Unlike, the rubbish Fiero. Even though, I still miss both cars.
You sound jealous ...and like a bad mechanic. LOL
Tbh. The fiero is atleast the better looking car. I always called the fiero a blonde, slow but good looking!
MR2 was faster but right the Fieros in my opinion looks more exotic specially when the flying butress came out which the MR2 copied but not better design. Mine was very reliable reaching 200k without any issues till I sold it. Missed it.
Yeah, I'd like to see what an 88 Formula would run with a quad 4.
00:24 01:09 09:04 12:46 16:15 18:40 28:49 29:48 30:03 30:50 31:04 31:21
This car came out almost 40 years ago and I still want one. It's just about perfect. It's a shame that the penny pinchers running GM in the 80's killed it off when the engineers were just starting to get it perfect. They completely redesigned the suspension for the last year. That's just ignorant in my opinion. The sales would've gotten better once people got a taste of the new suspension setup. GM was just too impatient and too focused on sales volume. They probably lost money the last year. But it would've paid for itself if they had kept making them
Incredible that they repeatedly referred to it as a sports car in the first test drive. With the iron duke yet!
I’ve always wanted a 1984 or 1985 pre facelift, but I came across a 1987 for only $600, the paint is all faded red, but it drove back 55 miles, but I already just bought $300 in parts, to make it run like new and suspension, it only has 118k miles
I like Fieros. I have more than a passing interest in Fieros. Having said that, JUNK JUNK JUNK.
28:49................James Taylor's 40th birthday!!!
One could only imagine what that car could have been with engineering upgrades! But it would surely have had a Quad 4 and later on, probably a turbo 2 liter similar to the Pontiac Solstice and still better suspension... BUT GM being GM, taking stupid decisions fairly consistently, also killed the Firebird and the Camaro later on... While the Mustang was still enjoying strong sales, replacing them with a half baked weird styled pickup and a oh so bland but excellent GTO... The Fiero would have died later with the whole Pontiac line anyway. To keep, ugh... Old people's car division Buick. All this because they sold well in China. Typical.
29:38 they went with the Miata.
The Fiero was out of production for over a year before the first Miata came out in 1990.
If this was aired in 82, how in the hell there is a Dodge Viper in the intro?! First Viper was manufactured in 92?!
Really dude??
Pay attention!! This is a flashback episode, which Motorweek did occasionally BITD. This episode aired in 1994... READ the end credits and date.
Also, cars were ALOT better looking back then... at least you could tell an import from a domestic. Nowadays, they ALL look alike.
maybe its a joke
so that's when they stopped 1988
Yea pretty slow, but then again this was the smallest engine available in the Fiero and go take a look of 0-60 times of sports cars in 1983.
Lexus Sc300 spotted @:13
If ford made it then people would still talk about them
and Ferrari
I got a 1985 with 90,090 miles for sale
“Spins almost impossible” lol I mean maybe compared to a washing machine.
best decision gm ever made
dejong93 6 year old comment, still a douchebag thing to say..... troll.
dejong93
I will concur with Ronald Tartaglia in that your comment was a douchebag thing to say and would like to add that you ARE truly, in fact, a fucking douchebag!
I personally think the 1984 model with the iron duke was mainly responsible for the fieros death. Second main reason was underpowered engines. The 1984 fiero was the red headed stepchild. The Indy version I wouldn’t mind owning it’s very rare today.
Using the 4cyl iron duke was the worst idea.
Earl Barnes no, it was Chevy not wanting competition for the corvette. They were going to make it into a real sports car.
Ronald Tartaglia yeah that probably was the main reasons for the fieros death. The Pontiac fiero has a subframe that’s capable of supporting many engine types. I’m willing to bet other engine sizes were tested at some point in the development of the fiero.
If that was the case the Chevy corvette would’ve been eaten for lunch.
they had a turbo 3.1L ready to go for the 2nd generation fiero. codename porscheeater. you can find it by a quick google search. it was much faster than the vette and the whole thing was killed by GM because of that.
@@ebperformance8436 : Pontiac engineers ran several V-8 prototypes around the Detroit & Pontiac Michigan area as early as summer of '83! One test mule Fiero even had an all aluminum V8 that Corvette engineers were terrified of! A little know fact is when the C4 Vette was finally released, Corvette engineers & Pontiac engineers got together for a little inter-company schenagins & the brand new "state of the art" Corvette was DESTROYED by the V8 Fiero every time they raced!!! Some Fiero & Corvette forums have threads dedicated to these test competitions. Sadly for Fiero, once the Brass at GM caught wind of this, the full on sabotage of Fiero was on. As far as GM was concerned back then as it still is today, Corvette is "King" & Fiero engineers were forced to work with one hand tied behind their backs after those races took place & GM forbid Pontiac from testing the V8 test mules any further & made it very clear that the Fiero would never have a V8 engine authorized for production. Sad but true. I've built up my '87 GT to more modern standards - suspension & brake wise & am currently saving up for a LS4/ 4T65 conversion. I'm also trying to figure out how to install some sort of power steering.
I never understood why they didn't put that turbo 4cyl that was in the Sunbird into the Fiero. It was available in '84.
11.2 to 60??!! WTF?
My VW GTI had 90HP!.. lol and the MIGHTY 944 porsche had an insane 150HP!
Mighty 944?! Yeah right...Smoked one in an 87 300zx, back in 88. When both cars were still new. Very, very close race, but the Porsche lost steam at the top end. That's when the Z overtook it.
"slick car" lol
MR2 was so much better than the fiero. Although they did improve the fiero.
mid engine like the Porsche!
Most Porsche are rear engine. Difference being the motor is behind rear axle. Mid engine is inbetween the 2 axles
GM glued 2 turds together and came up with a Fiero.
Took the front suspension of a Chevette and put it up front,
and a Chevy Citation suspension/powertrain out back.
Voila!
Poop.
They upgraded the suspension the last year they made them in 1988. Sad thing about that car is the chassis is super strong and they could have designed another body style to fit it.
Well considering mine is still running at over 35 yes old, stack that against your modern day cars. Will they last that long? No way. So what is junk?
Oh yeah, those were the days that everybody on American TV had a severe liver disease.... Those people look very unhealthy.
Ronald de Rooij also , that's when Americans still had our real full democratic rights. ; unlike today's christian scam version of it.
Ronald de Rooij, looking at your pic, YOU look older and sicklier than the whole MW cast. The cast of Motorweek is alive and well, probably will outlive you.
@@charliesthill4790
Keep your opinions on religion to yourself.
GUESS IT DOESN'T MAKE U TURNS WELL?