Why your tomatoes are tasteless: Mechanical Harvesting
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- You might not be aware that the tomatoes you most likely buy at the store today are not the same that you might have eaten just, say, around seventy years ago. In fact, your tomatoes likely taste worse. Because tomatoes were forever changed by an invention that most people have likely never seen, nor even thought about.
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So that's why store bought tastes like sadness
They also ship them very green/unripe so they're less likely to bruise and they get red by the time you buy them. The whole process just sucks for taste.
Always awful.
Grow it yourself or you not eating right.
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Grew buckets and buckets of heirloom tomatoes in my first garden this year. I'll never go back.
Cherokee purples. You can cross pollinate them with other tomatoes and end up with tasty results.
Increased CO2 is great for veggies!
@@patmcbride9853 So are Hurricanes ... Plenty of water !
@@Andres_1970 🤣
@@JoshJones-37334that affects the next generation of fruit not this one
Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit.
Wisdom is knowing it doesn't belong in a fruit salad.
My favorite fruit is Avocado. 😇
Victoria Coren Mitchell made that comment on QI (a British TV series). Then she tried a tomato in a fruit salad and said it was much better than she'd expected.
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@@mkshffr4936 An avocado isn't a fruit, it's an indulgance😁
Philosophy is asking whether ketchup is a smoothie
I will turn 78 in a week. I remember as a child going out into our little family garden with a salt shaker and eating fresh picked tomatoes, still warm from the midday sun.. Most people today have no idea how good a tomato can taste.
We'd pick them off the vine and eat them like apples.
I have been raising and canning tomatoes for over 50 year. My Mom and Dad did the same. I have only eaten store bought tomatoes in salads in restaurants.
I first noticed the taste difference in 1971. It's when the local farmers switched to Floridade tomatoes.
When he said, "the tomato doesn't taste the same as the tomato from 60 years ago," I thought, "I wouldn't know - I wasn't around in the 1930's." Somewhat later I realized 60 years ago was 1964.
How did that happen? Dang, I'm old!
The song “When I’m 64” comes to mind.
I still feel like the 90’s were 20 years ago
You are not alone.
Happens to us all! I guess our 20s are "our time" and people before that are old and after they are young!
I am lily white guy who was born in Africa. The fruit and veg taste like "heaven".
I travelled to Britain and Denmark and Sweden, and oh my gosh what tasteless the fruit and vegetables were.
Whenever I saw fruit that came from Africa, I would by them instead.
Most of the tomatoes in EU are grown in Greenhouses, all vertically.
I would for 3 weeks in a tomato greenhouse. WOW, what backbreaking work that was.
You would sit on your leg push trolley and you would twist your torso left to pick and then twist to the right and pick.
It certainly was an experience
I appreciate you History Guy! You deserve to be remembered!
This brings back memories of working on a tomato farm, in Hanover County, Virginia (home of the semi-famous, Hanover Tomatos, a minor character in Patricia Cornwall novels) as a pre/teen in the 60's for $5.00 a day. We set the plants using a young plant in a clod of dirt. One man following a wagon, picking up two plants at a time, using a grave diggers shovel, handing off, one to one side, then one to the other. Don't make him wait. Then we would set the clod, cover it with dirt like a dog digging a hole. Plain old stoop work. Repeat for hours. Then later we'd come back and put a wooden stake about 3 feet tall next to the plant, the over time tie the plant to the stake with a loose knot. Then sucker the plants (remove branches that weren't going to produce fruit) until finally there was fruit on the vine to be picked. Up and down the rows for hours, about 10-12 hours day at least six days, and sometimes after church on Sunday. Hard work, but for a 12-16 year old boy, it was the path to manhood. We were expected to work like men, and when we did, we were treated like men. Lunch was provided, either an almost feast at the farmers house, or maybe just bologna and bread, and an RC Cola out in the field. I wish I could do it all over again, but I'm an old man now, and the farm is a subdivision. Such is progress.
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I'm at the other end. I (little red-haired girl) picked tomotoes with my step father's migrant family. And cukes. You really don't want the sunburns I got before the age of 14, when I refused to go anymore. I grow tomatoes at home now, when I can. All the fields that were healthy veggies around here are now corn and beans, and killing the soil.
I wouldn't call it "progress".
Why did the tomato turn red?
It saw the salad dressing.
😂
As a botanist tomatoes are definitely a fruit. A big part of why tomatoes have lost their flavour (in Canada anyway) is that they are bred for early harvesting and picked unripened (green) for shipping and shelf life convenience.
A vine ripened, hand cultivated Roma, Sungold or Apero tomato will provide an unparalleled sweetness over any hothouse or beefsteak tomato.
As a laymen even I know tomatoes are fruit. The idea SCOTUS found otherwise is absurd.
Roma is awfull. blee...
@@dataroman8111 not if you grow your own they’re not. They’re an excellent sandwich and sauce tomato.
@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket Classifying the tomato as a vegetable brought in more revenue.
At the time of the lawsuit, imported vegetables were subject to a 10% tariff while imported fruits were not. An importer of Caribbean tomatoes, John Nix, argued that they were fruits and, thus, not subject to the tariff. The Supreme Court found that, while tomatoes, beans, cucumbers, etc. were biologically fruits, they were considered and treated as vegetables in the common language of the people. [Nix v. Hedden 149 U.S. 304 (1893)]
As usual, it all boils down to money.
Vegetable: Edible plant or *edible part of a plant.*
Fruit: Seed bearing *edible part of a plant.*
A tomato is both a fruit and a vegetable.
Thanks for Ketchup’ing us up on the modern Tomato’s 🍅🥫
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Thanks for trying to amuse this comment section!
😂 ba dum tissss
Spent my afternoons and summers helping on my grandad's subsistence farm. Was plowing behind a mule by 10 years old. It isn't just tomatoes that taste better coming from your own ground.
I was just talking to my mother about tasteless tomatoes yesterday!
Home grown tomatoes eaten fresh off the vine are just the best! Yum yum yum yum. We're getting them right now o in early Autumn and love it.
Pity they are seasonal.......sure your could can them as my mom did back in the day for soups, stews and sauces, but having them fresh year round from your own garden here in BC is a not runner. Might be possible with a greenhouse perhaps.
My children never tasted store bought tomatoes, cucumbers, zukes, peas, beans, corn until they left the house. With the price of food skyrocketing, they are setting up gardens wherever they might be.
Throughout my childhood in California, my mom grew tomatoes in the backyard. We would try different varieties, but they were all good. She got to the point where she could get these softball sized beefsteak tomatoes that were to die for. Tomatoes you find in the store that taste like Styrofoam, just are a disgrace. Thanks for the history lesson, Professor.
I enjoyed this story. It brought back fond memories of picking and eating the sweetest tomatoes in the world from our family garden when I was a child.
Nice! I studied food science in college and been in food industry almost 25 years. I love these topics.
The tomato grower and harvesting was still end up consolidated, regardless, how many varieties of tomatoes. It has been the nature of farming and agriculture in California for the past 40 years.
The SCOTUS decision of 1893, although it sounds ridiculous, was due to the law that taxed fruits at a higher rate than vegetables.
Yes, it was regarding a tariff.
The supreme Court will ignore the dictionary in order to fund the government a few more bucks. That's what Nix taught me.
Garrison Keillor said of the grocery store tomato: “they are STRIP MINED in Texas.” Compared to the tomatoes grown in Lake Woebegon backyards and elsewhere, he couldn’t have said it better.
I have often referred to Keillor on various subjects. This is the first time I have seen someone else mention him.
As a resident of Southern NJ where tomato's are grown all over because they taste great I can say I rarely buy a supermarket tomato. Even in the cold of winter. Hard and tasteless. Good ones are at every local farm stand. Love them
Nothing beat Jersey Fresh corn and tomatoes.
I like the new intro video part . My Grandfather complained about damn hothouse tomatoes in the 70s
We raise our own tomatoes and make our own sauce and other tomato products. Haven't bought a tomato product from a supermarket in years except for ketchup.
I was raised by two former farmers in the 1970s. At least six rows of tomatoes were in the garden every year. Often I would pick a tomato, wash it under the spigot, and have a little snack. Mom and Dad canned every year too. I miss it.
They still grow. Whatever your folks did you can do, too. 🙂
@@SoberOKMoments I've been divorced for several years. My ex and I always had a garden. Since it ended, my heart's not in it. Ce'st la vie. I'm okay with it. Thanks.
They're now trying to 'splice' or interbreed heirloom tomatoes back into commercial varieties to get the flavor back😮
I grow a variety called Everglades, they're tiny but prolific and taste amazing😅
4th of Julys have a good flavor.
As a really small wanna be truck patch gardener. Ive alwayse wondered why folks fight the hightunnel tomatoes. Its the same spot of ground thats grown them before. They are just under a cover. The mechanical farming stuff is just amazing! Thank you
My brother raises ‘heirloom’ tomatoes and I feel sorry for folks who don’t have access to fresh homegrown tomatoes. His different varieties of heirlooms taste incredible!
Incredible video with yet ANOTHER incredible video opening (the rolling farm)!
You do it again. You find a way to take something as common and ubiquitous as a tomato and turn it into a compelling lesson in history.
My understanding is that they also pick them green now to last a long time in transport, and before arrival at destination they are doused with a gas that speeds up ripening. This means they are less nutrient dense and flavorful. Also the soils are worn out and only produce due to added synthetic fertilizers
This is the reason why when I buy tomatoes at the store, I usually buy Roma Tomatoes. They have more flesh, less seeds, easier to cut and a generally better flavor. Not to mention they are much cheaper. And yet, ironically, they were never intended for sandwiches or salads, being used almost exclusively in cooking - namely making sauces and soups.
Indeed, when I once made little sandwiches with those tomatoes, for a pot-luck reception, the people there liked how well they tasted, compared to those "water bomb" tomatoes that are usually used. When I tell them what they are, they look at me like I'm from another planet, and say "Isn't that what's used in spaghetti sauce?' Afterwards, they get a little weirded out and stop eating the sandwiches. When I tell them that they DID taste good, they say they aren't used to it - one even stubbornly (and a bit angrily) told me that fresh tomatoes are SUPPOSED to be bland!
Amazing how people's pretensions can blind them to new things and different approaches - going so far as to keep them, willingly, in a culinary "dark age", even in the face of actual evidence from tasting the things themselves!
I grow several different tomatoes, but when the season is over and I have to buy from the store, Roma is the only one I will buy. Tastes better than supermarket junk and doesn't water down my food. Especially salads and tacos. People who grew up on supermarket produce have no idea what produce is supposed to taste like.
The Roma tomato is exactly the tomato he is talking about.
What about the "Flavor Saver" tomato?
It was the first genetically engineered food (I think) from the early 1980's. It was bought out and buried by Monsanto in favor of their round up resistant crops, ultimately giving genetically engineered foods a bad reputation, even though it was a good product.
Would you consider looking into that story for us?
Thanks Lance. Here at our home in TN, we celebrate the first ("REAL") tomatoes of the season each April or May. The South loves their locally grown tomatoes. Tomato pie, tomato gravy, canned tomatoes for winter, tomato sandwiches with a small bit of mayo and light salt and pepper, and of course, salads - not much better. Not uncommon around here for growers to take a nice tomato straight off the vine and eat it like an apple. That's a bit much for me, but each year in spring we await rescue from tasteless, cardboard store-bought "tomatoes".
I'm blessed to be living in a semi-rural (rural farm land that is slowly disappearing from housing developments) area, where there are still local farmer's that sell produce from roadside stands. Heirloom tomatoes, in multiple varieties (ever seen a purple tomato?) abound... I am so spoiled by their superior tastiness and freshness, that if I'm ever an forced to go back to supermarket produce, which I think I will eventually will be forced into, as more and more of the local farms disappears under the bulldozer.... I'm going to have a real difficult time adjusting. So much so, it just may force me into finally growing my own. But it's not only tomatoes... strawberries, cantaloupe, spaghetti squash, green beans and OMG white sweet corn... everything tastes way better and different than the mass produced plastic stuff sold in supermarkets. Part of the reason why super market produce has no flavor is they keep it in cold storage to extend the selling life. Nothing destroys the flavor more that something being kept in cold storage for weeks, before being placed in the produce section for sale.
I have a novelty Southern recipe cookbook called "White Trash Cooking" by Ernest Mickler. It has a recipe for "Kitchen Sink Tomato Sandwich"... two pieces of bread, coat with 1/4 inch mayo on each slice, 2 vine ripened medium tomatoes, slice 1/4 inch thick and layer on bread, salt & pepper, roll up your sleeves and commence to eat over of the kitchen sink while the juice runs down you elbows.... fat chance with store bought tomatoes!
Very well-done story. I think about these sad tomatoes often. Thankfully, we can buy cheap San Marzano tomatoes in a can from across the pond and they make a delicious Sunday gravy.
Thanks for the great video THG! I met your mom at an ag journalist meeting for the NCBA and she gave me a THG challenge coin that I bring with me to any historical sight! If you don’t mind can I request you do a video on the not so distant history of the Commodity check off programs? Love your content and I’m glad I got to meet your lovely mother who has to be the source of your brilliance!
Cool intro.
Going to listen to Guy Clark's "Home Grown Tomatoes" song next.
Always a good choice.
I go to Farmer markets to get tomatoes when they are in season. I've always hated tomatoes at Walmart because they taste like nothing but water
I guess this explains why I loved tomatoes as a kid, would pick and eat them like they were fruit but don't like them now. Growing up, I had fresh tomatoes from the vines as a kid, but after moving to the US, they never tasted right. Now, I'll eat tomato products, just not the plain tomatoes by itself.
@@MacTX get ya some 5 gallon bucket and grow a few. They aren't hard to keep happy.
Seriously, I've had it with you assholes constantly making me feel like shit because of where I was born. Go to hell.
I graduated from a California high school in 1971. My last two years, the Mexican guys in my class got special permission to leave school to pick tomatoes during the harvest season.
Yep! Home grown anything is always better!
Homegrown garlic is fantastic
There are plenty of things that are definitely not worth growing at home
@@MikehMike01For example?
@@mkshffr4936 wheat, sugar, corn, soybeans, onions, garlic, carrots
Home grown and vine ripen are the best.
Growing tomatoes at home rules. I love how mine look and smell, and obviously, taste. Thank you for the lesson history guy!
Thank you for the lesson.
Very fascinating. Explains why there's so much sugar in tomato ketchup and sauces. We DO grow our own heirloom varieties, but it a constant battle to keep them protected from pests.
I have always known homegrown tomatoes taste way better than store bought tomatoes.
In the UK strawberries are totally tasteless unless you grow your own
The imported Spannish ones are..abysmal
@@somethingelse4878 they pick em before they are ripe.
@@Kickthelighter they're sour like a lemon
I will never but "fresh" tomatoes from the grocery produce section. They look like tomatoes but taste nothing like them. A good tomato does not come from the store.
Just FYI, I grew up and live in Rio Vista, the town right across the ferry from Ryer Island where the harvesters where manufactured. I suspect the family name you are calling Blackwater, is actually Blackwelder. As I used to play amongst the machine's at Blackwelder Manufacturing, and actually new an Ernest Blackwelder, yet do not know of a Blackwater family in town. As we live in the back waters of California, I may be wrong, and I could be mistaken. However if you looking for another story, I would suggest the Dutra story. They have a local museum in town on dredging.
Thanks for reminding me that my tomato patch has pretty much puttered out for the year. I won't be able to stand a store bought one for several months.
I cut back on my tomato plants this year. Only planted 30 tomatoes. This year they didn't produce very well. None of the garden performed well.
Start canning next year.
If you can tomatoes with onions, garlic, salt, and pepper; you have a tomato base that you can use for a multitude of dishes.
I've already started a batch of cherry tomatoes indoors!
When you talk about changes to the supply chain and other areas of production, you should include auto body and glass shops that make a fortune in repair revenue during harvest season. When those "rock-like" projectiles bounce out of the trailers on the way to the processing plant, they do a LOT of damage.
In the UK ours are still round. But they don't taste all that. But they do give a boost to a cheese sandwich at times. Nice low calorie bulk when added grilled to a breakfast too.
It’s so easy to grow your own and the taste is so much better, I don’t know anyone who’s ever grown their own who would buy a store bought one unless it was utter desperation.
HEY HG ! No kidding ! I grew tom's this year, (and I truly rocked it)(o.k. for once) they were great !
Until only a couple of years ago, believe it or not, the trains on one of the major rail line in the U.K. still dumped the ‘sewage’ from the onboard toilets out on to the sleepers between the tracks as the train moved. The rules said not to use the toilets whilst the train was in the station. Anyway, at our local station (end of a branch line) mysteriously tomato plants began growing up from between the rails where the train stopped….
That's insanely nasty. Trains are just allowed to dump human waste untreated onto the ground? In America RV's are required to have a black water tank. I have no idea if our trains are like yours but my goodness I hope not.
@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket the trains have been replaced now and store their human waste much like an aeroplane does.
Not only are they tasteless because of selection for physical resilience, but also because of how our soils are mineral depleted, and hydronic fertilizers focus mostly on NPK. This means that the plants don't have the necessary precursors to do their chemistry to make complex flavonoids and terpenes. Having adequate NPK means that the fruits will grow big, but are significantly less nutrient-dense. That's why they're flavorless, it's all water.
In healthy soil there are fungi, nematodes, bacteria, protozoa, etc. that all play important roles in converting organic material into nutrients in forms that are available to plants. A plant that only has it's NPK needs met may only be able to produce monoterpenes, while a plant that has every nutrient available to it can go on to produce diterpenes, triterpenes, etc.
I'm not trying to push soil vs hydro, "organic" or "conventional", as all have their use cases and any method could theoretically provide adequate nutrients. It's just that, currently, the most nutrient dense produce is still grown in soil with all of the healthy flora and fauna of the soil food web.
For a musical summation check out Guy Clark's song "Homegrown Tomatoes."
You're talking about the field of Agronomy, which my sister has a degree in. Agronomists study the numerous ways plants can be cultivated, genetically altered, and utilized to our advantage. Different climate zones require a varied crop for different types of weather conditions.
I picked tomatoes as a kid in the early 90s in niagara region in Ontario. Now the areas nothing but peaches and vineyards. Now the peaches are going away too..
Growing up I never understood why people loked strawberries. They always tasted awful to me. Even when covered in chocolate whipped cream and or sugar. Then one day when going on a sunday trip picking strawberries 🍓 I pulled one off the vine and it tasted sweet!
So what was this they've been FEEDING us all this time?
yes I have noticed that a lot of tomatoes at the store don't have that nice taste. I buy the ones that are still on the vine.
I'm from Ohio. My uncle farmed tomatoes as late as the early 70's and had pickers come up from Texas. Ohio and Pennsylvania were big enough in this crop, that the largest ketchup plant in the world, Heinz, is in Fremont, Ohio. Where does it get its tomato paste? California. Thanks
Lots of things seem to be losing flavor nowadays, such as apples. I don't even buy Honeycrisps (once a favorite) anymore because I got tired of them having almost no flavor! :( Crunchy water is no fun.
By chance the last thing I did before I saw this video was eat a fresh brandywine from our garden. Marvelous. Now that I think about it, I wonder if some AI was listening to me talk about how good it was.
And now I know why my Aunt sent my mother tomato seeds from their farm in Ohio - this was back in the late 1950s. Always felt that salads tasted better when visiting the farm and never knew why.
This reminds me of what happened to the red delicious apple. Ended up being bred to be more red to be "appealing" and to be mushy to survive shipping without getting damaged. While it did become easier to ship, it made for a terrible apple.
In the sixties, my family grew all the tomatoes we ate. One day, I went into the garden and ate tomatoes off the vine...too many of them; I got hives. That put me off tomatoes for many years...but my grandfather also had a big garden, and he grew some beefsteak tomatoes, which turned out to be nearly flavorless. If I really felt a need for fresh tomatoes, I'd grow them...but I very rarely have a use for them. I'm still sensitive to the acid in red tomatoes...which isn't present, or at least not in such quantities, in yellow tomatoes. Eating food with tomato sauce tends to leave the corners of my mouth irritated.
Guess we are lucky up here all the grocery stores always sell local heirloom tomatoes
Explains why I don’t care for TOMATOES 🍅 on their own. In recipes, they’re great however
For those of you who grow your own Tomatoes, before your first Frost go ahead and pick every tomato even the green ones put them in a cardboard box separated by newspapers in a dark area and when you're wanting to eat one just set it in windowsill for a few days and it will turn red you will have fresh tomatoes longer than just the growing season.
Sixty years ago? Lol! I'm more than old enough to remember. Half the year in the Middle East and traveling. Half the year in the U.S. and starting my first time in a local American school in Illinois farm country. I can remember bowls of peeled and sliced tomatoes with salt, pepper and a dash of vinegar.
The fruit vs. vegetable argument has bern going on forever.
I had a horticulture teacher who claimed that it is definitely a fruit because technically, it’s a berry.
My then 17-year old daughter and I visited Norway some years back, it was her first trip abroad. Our first meal was at a small family owned restaurant (remember those??), and I was having a meal with tomatoes. She grew up in California, and hated tomatoes as they were "disgusting" to her. I had always told her that _Modern_ food in America isn't fit for man nor beast. I compelled her to taste one of the tomatoes on my plate... The rest his history, as she now lives full-time in Valencia Spain.
Can you tell us for certain the correct pronunciation of tomato? Is it TOE-MAY-TOE or TOE-MAH-TOE?
The Great Vowel Shift and the History of Britain.
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THIS is why the main plants I grow in the summer garden are... Tomatoes.
It's sad to see huge semi trailers in Southern Florida driving around with hard GREEN round things called tomatoes, taking them to the market. Even when left to rippen on the vine (the ones left after picking), they are tasteless garbage.
So sad.
First year with a garden and it's been very rewarding and delicious. I look forward to expanding next year and implore others to try as well. Just stick some seeds in the ground and watch them grow :)
It's an improvment over the situation 30 years ago where the tomatoes were the only green thing in a big plate of salad ;-)
Love your videos
This explains why the tomatoes i ate as a kid in Nigeria, in the 2000s, tasted different and better than store tomatoes i tasted in the UK🤔 I definitely appreciate the scientific and technological innovations that made tomatoes morw durable, mass produced and viable for wider consumption but it's also clear that the trade off of better taste and natural quality was sad but necessary.
I try to buy cherry tomatoes, their small size allows them to picked at a riper stage? Otherwise, homegrown or farmers market
There is a reason why fruits and vegetables have seasons. Places like the southwest and Mexico have screwed up what we expect out of crops. As was stated earlier, heirloom plants have helped save the tomato. I was raised on a vegetable garden and was taught how to grow and preserve the crops. Homemade spaghetti sauce & salsa are far better than commercial. Some salsas the predominant taste is vinegar, not tomato.
The local store bought tomatoes that we buy are terrible. I do part time work for a couple in the town I live that has a nice garden in which they grow their own tomatoes. During the season I have a nice supply of fresh picked tasteful tomatoes.
yeah i remember the loss of variety in tomato's , this is why the sauces have so much junk in them. back in the 60's and 70's there was more variety in plant seedlings and seeds for home planting. now - well people don't plant in the back yards and we are used to the over processed crud.
Enshitifcation permeates everything.
Thank You
One of my main summer crops. I rarely buy tomatoes. I hate the store bought ones. Why they taste bad-because you didn’t grow it. I always grow heirlooms.
I know for a fact that those tomatoes are gassed with ethelene over night because it turns green tomatoes into red tomatoes. I saw this when I worked for Air Products and Chemicals.
Automation/mechanization is an ever more important issue
the longshoremen strike a couple weeks ago was mostly about automation
as was the writers strike last year
but if you want affordable tomatoes et al, you will need technology
We used to grow our own tomatoes, often having so many we shared with neighbors. Yes, I guess I'm fortunate to know the real taste to a tomato before industrial harvesting began. I feel sorry for those that only know supermarket produce.
I love the outro music.
I had tomatoes come up this spring from some store bought tomato seeds.
They are still all green, and have yet to begin to ripen red. I have a feeling they a from South America somewhere because it’s coming up in mid October.
For years now I've only eaten tomatoes that I've grown or I got at the farmer's market in the summertime.
In the southwest you can find decent tomatoes in the store but they cost more. Almost all restaurants use the watery, flavorless tomato that is better left in the garbage. Most Americans don't know any better because that's what they think tomatoes taste like.
forget 70 yrs ago, they became even more tasteless around turn of the century
I’m growing my own next year. I’m tired of paying too much for crappy tomatoes.
Tomatoes are not the only produce that has lost flavor over the last 50 or 60 years. If you want good fruits and vegetables, they have to be homegrown old-fashioned varieties developed for flavor rather than for harvest or shipping. Years ago I had a Rio Oso Gem peach tree with fruit the size of a softball and outstanding flavor. I froze enough for almost a year for us and my parents and still had plenty to give to neighbors and friends, who loved them and always hinted the following year that they would be happy to help us by taking the excess off our hands😂 Wish I could have taken that tree with us when we moved.
never liked a tomato in sandwich. it ruins salads too
WHAT? What about a BLT?
The next time I pass a small farmer's market on the side of the road, I'll buy a tomato, slice it and eat it with a little salt and pepper like my grandfather did. All I really know today is Walmart's roma tomatoes, and when I think about it, they're not all that tasty.
of course it could just be that tomatoes taste bad in general.