Nope, radomes are made of fiberglass or composite and turbulence or hail would do that. A few hours of work to replace it as long as the rada inside was not damaged.
shes probably flies a lot and likes aviation and airtravel and doesn't watch a lot of videos or informed about dented nose cones and that kind of things
I am a private pilot I get peoples concern but that is not going to cause the plane to go down. I have a Pitts special biplane and I was pushed off line on final approach at a tiny airport and my lower left wing clipped trees and I was able to land. We checked the structure which was fine and placed heavy duty duct tape over the hole on the leading edge and flew it home. No issues
Probably the mechanic working last on the nose cone did a too good of a job sealing it... The cones need to have a gap in the seal, so air can vent in and out freely.. If it is sealed completely, with the air pressure lowering when the plane gets higher air can get out, because the cone gets a bit bloated and air is vented out, but when going down the presure inside the cone get a bit lower, which then causes to shrink a bit and the seal gets completely closed and air cannot vent in. The much lower air pressure inside and higher pressure outside make the cone buckle, just like your water bottle, when emptied during cruise, put on the lid tightly, and when on the ground its buckled, and is why passengers did not notice anything, because it was not hit by anything. This has happened many times before. Looks weird, but is not really dangerous, its only a bit extra noisy in the cockpit and you burn a bit more fuel. But of course it needs to be replaced before the next flight, because the damnage can get worse and parts starts to fall off, which IS dangerous.
I guess passengers need notifications on their phones of every warning/alert in the cockpit so that they too can be professional speculators and create panic over everyday occurrences. To me, it's absurd that this "hobbyist" doesn't know what caused this.
I once encounter people complaining about turbulence and why jetblue wast reporting that as an incident because wasn’t “a normal turbulence “ people become the most ignorant thing when talking about planes
I hate it that I always get these videos in my feed, a week late. I scrolled through many of the comments here, and most of the comments are nonsense. Aircraft radomes are made pretty much like the fairings at the wing roots. They are made up of a honeycomb core that is covered with built up layers of composite materials. The front of the airplane has a flat sheet metal surface with stiffeners attached. That’s the forward pressure bulkhead. The weather radar is mounted to the bulkhead. The radome itself has a rubber bulb seal that surrounds the aft edge of the radome, which presses against the surrounding edge of the forward bulkhead when closed. The bulb seal has a gap opening at the bottom of the radome to allow for moisture drainage and pressure equalization. At no time is there a pressure differential between the inside and the outside of the radome. Mechanics do not everapply any sealant to the gap between the radome and the aircraft fuselage. This aircraft appears to be an A-320. There’s a radome latch visible in the video. I will not speculate as to the cause of the dent in the radome. All I will say is that the airplane left Detroit in an airworthy condition, and arrived in Denver in an unairworthy condition. No airline would ever release an aircraft for further flight in that condition. One other thing, radomes are routinely replaced for reasons other than major structural damage. Delamination, and moisture incursion into the honeycomb structure, detected using NDT equipment during regular inspections, are the most common occurrences.
The radome collapsed, it happens, not often but I've seen it before and changed the radome, no big deal. If they stated it was a mechanical issue, as stated in the comments it most likely damaged the weather radar antenna that is mounted inside the radome.
The nose of a plane typically houses a radar used to detect incoming weather such as storms. Unless the weather was unpredictable that the destination, or there was a severe storm risking a possible microburst, the threat wouldn't be severe enough to inform the passengers. This is coupled with the fact that the nose of a plane is not pressurized, posing little to no risk to the pressurization of the cabin.
Yup, seen that before. Worked on aircraft 20 years, seen that a couple times. Those nose cones usually made of fiberglass and covers the radar antenna.
Ooh, the radome is dented! Be still, my beating heart. "I've never seen or heard of anything like this before." Well, your ignorance and lack of experience is not anyone else's problem. And the same thing goes for the reporters blowing it all out of proportion.
Crews received an indication of a mechanical issue in the nose of the aircraft?” Double talk. I’m assuming the RADAR stopped working which was there indication because there’s nothing else in the RADOME.
And this is what we are to believe went through 5he World Trade Center? Like straight through the building and came out the other side? Hell no it should have crumbled like a tin can wtf….
Obviously the aircraft hit something in flight... Could be a bird, chunk of ice, etc... Those nose cones, or radome, are typically made of fiberglass... So, they installed a new or rebuilt radome on the aircraft... This one will likely be sent to Tulsa to be repaired... I know this because I have hauled many of them out of that facility... No, the passengers were not in any kind of danger over this... The radome is outside of the pressurized fuselage envelope... Damage like this is somewhat common...
If it was hit by something passengers would have noticed.. Its probaly caused by differential pressure because the cone was sealed completely, while there should be a gap to enable air to vent in and out...Happened before, many times,
@@MarcoNieropwhat? The pressure outside at altitude is much lower than inside? How could that collapse the cone? The plane clearly struck a bird and it would not have to be a direct impact to cause such damage.
No big deal with just a bump on the nose just wait till the door next to you comes off or you look out your cracked window and see some of the fuselage peel off the wing and maybe a little fire and smoke come out the engine then you can complain to a disinterested management.
Had the same happen while I was piloting a 757 back in the early 2000’s. No big deal. Diverted to MIA, they slapped a new nose cone on, then we continued to MBJ…..
We flew back from Ireland on Sunday. In the middle of the ocean it felt like we hit something big and the plane dropped a couple of feet. I have been flying for over 50 years and have experienced bad turbulence over the years. This was different. Never experienced this before.
Not necessarily.. It probably is caused by differential pressure because the cone was sealed completely, while there should be a gap for air to vent in and out... On the way down it failed to vent air IN and the differential pressure made it buckle.. just like your water bottle does on an airplane on the way down. If it was hit by something people on board would have noticed.. This buckling can go slowly without being noticed. Happened many times before.
Al ot of you drive around in raggedy cars that are dented and sheisty. But a composite shape going through the air at 600mph isnt allowed to compromise once in a blue.
If it was a bird strike while landing, do you want the pilot to forget about the landing to announce to the passengers what happened? If you need to know so bad, get a pilots license and fly the plane.
The plane can fly without a nose cone. There are parts inside such as the glideslope/localizer antenna and weather radar. The plane also doesn’t need them to fly. If the weather was good at DEN then there’s no reason they wouldn’t land. Also, if the pilot said nothing about it, then there’s really no cause for concern from the passengers or a news company
If the buckling was caused by differential pressure, good chance the pilots did not have noticed it all, and discovered it when they departed the plane, or were notified by people from the outside...I work at the engineering department of an airline, and thios happened to us as well.. We were completely puzzled at first, until Boeing explained what caused the damage.
If you look at most commercial aircraft closely at their nose cone, you will see it's usually cleaner or even a slightly different colour, that's because they get changed a lot ! Something like a Canada goose will easily do that level of damage & it's designed to take that damage.
The nose cone covers radar and other avionic systems. A crushed cone would also affect the flow of air. There is also a danger the cone could break loose and be ingested into the engines or fall to the ground.
If you do your homework, and if you pay attention, this has been going on for many years. This is not even the first plane that has been in the news with this indentation on the nose. You all need to study Dr. Steven Greer’s work.
Ok everybody, bird strikes can dent or even penetrate the skin of an airplane or get ingested into an engine and either take the engine out or Cuisinart and just exit in very small pieces. Or, large chuck of hail in the turbulent clouds. Or even lightning can do that, imagine that, had that happened on a military transport years ago.
you guys hit santa.
I was looking forward to Christmas... well i am sure we will get a replacement
Damn it I was supposed to get that Ferrari this year now I’m not, screw you Delta 😭😭
George Jetson.
then the pilot gets a big lump of coal this year for christmas.
@@JoeKeller-hr6is LunchPad from Duck Tales.
Tailgating, typical in Denver. There's a plane flying around with a crumpled tail section.
Brakechecking in the sky
👍👍👍😂
LMFAO
So he was airbraked!
Nope, radomes are made of fiberglass or composite and turbulence or hail would do that. A few hours of work to replace it as long as the rada inside was not damaged.
This is an incredible non story
By me, non stories are commonly used to fill one local TV station's 11.5 hours of ""news" programming every weekday.
@@msr1116 indeed. They have to turn every molehill into a mountain in order to fit enough content into the ridiculously long new cycle.
They could have put in the title: bird strike right there.
If you are an aviation enthusiast like she said then she wouldn’t be saying “haven’t seen this ever”
shes probably flies a lot and likes aviation and airtravel and doesn't watch a lot of videos or informed about dented nose cones and that kind of things
Yeah for real. Technically probably could have flown it back to Detroit. Its a non critical radome
She did not call herself an expert... she said enthusiast. No need to disparage her.
That’s exactly right!
I am a private pilot I get peoples concern but that is not going to cause the plane to go down. I have a Pitts special biplane and I was pushed off line on final approach at a tiny airport and my lower left wing clipped trees and I was able to land. We checked the structure which was fine and placed heavy duty duct tape over the hole on the leading edge and flew it home. No issues
Probably the mechanic working last on the nose cone did a too good of a job sealing it... The cones need to have a gap in the seal, so air can vent in and out freely.. If it is sealed completely, with the air pressure lowering when the plane gets higher air can get out, because the cone gets a bit bloated and air is vented out, but when going down the presure inside the cone get a bit lower, which then causes to shrink a bit and the seal gets completely closed and air cannot vent in.
The much lower air pressure inside and higher pressure outside make the cone buckle, just like your water bottle, when emptied during cruise, put on the lid tightly, and when on the ground its buckled, and is why passengers did not notice anything, because it was not hit by anything.
This has happened many times before. Looks weird, but is not really dangerous, its only a bit extra noisy in the cockpit and you burn a bit more fuel. But of course it needs to be replaced before the next flight, because the damnage can get worse and parts starts to fall off, which IS dangerous.
sounds right thx
Looks like it "vacuformed" the radar antenna in place 😀.
I would’ve never thought of that happening. Thanks for teaching me something today!!
Yup low air pressure caused it, this is no mystery, and no safety hazard, it it was a bird strike there would be blood
Pure unadulterated twaddle from a bozo know-nothing.
Thats not a bird strike, that’s from a pterodactyl.
Pterodactyl = Big effen bird.
I guess passengers need notifications on their phones of every warning/alert in the cockpit so that they too can be professional speculators and create panic over everyday occurrences. To me, it's absurd that this "hobbyist" doesn't know what caused this.
The exact comment I was looking for.
I once encounter people complaining about turbulence and why jetblue wast reporting that as an incident because wasn’t “a normal turbulence “ people become the most ignorant thing when talking about planes
If no one had reported this, they would have continued using the plane, They got caught and should most certainly have alerted passengers
I hate it that I always get these videos in my feed, a week late. I scrolled through many of the comments here, and most of the comments are nonsense.
Aircraft radomes are made pretty much like the fairings at the wing roots. They are made up of a honeycomb core that is covered with built up layers of composite materials. The front of the airplane has a flat sheet metal surface with stiffeners attached. That’s the forward pressure bulkhead. The weather radar is mounted to the bulkhead.
The radome itself has a rubber bulb seal that surrounds the aft edge of the radome, which presses against the surrounding edge of the forward bulkhead when closed. The bulb seal has a gap opening at the bottom of the radome to allow for moisture drainage and pressure equalization. At no time is there a pressure differential between the inside and the outside of the radome. Mechanics do not everapply any sealant to the gap between the radome and the aircraft fuselage. This aircraft appears to be an A-320. There’s a radome latch visible in the video.
I will not speculate as to the cause of the dent in the radome. All I will say is that the airplane left Detroit in an airworthy condition, and arrived in Denver in an unairworthy condition. No airline would ever release an aircraft for further flight in that condition.
One other thing, radomes are routinely replaced for reasons other than major structural damage. Delamination, and moisture incursion into the honeycomb structure, detected using NDT equipment during regular inspections, are the most common occurrences.
UFO must have knicked the nose😂😂
✈️🛸 👽❓️❓️
they're not saying anything because it's not really a big deal
Or none of their business..just pay up and keep on flying..
Unless you are a passenger
The radome collapsed, it happens, not often but I've seen it before and changed the radome, no big deal. If they stated it was a mechanical issue, as stated in the comments it most likely damaged the weather radar antenna that is mounted inside the radome.
The nose of a plane typically houses a radar used to detect incoming weather such as storms. Unless the weather was unpredictable that the destination, or there was a severe storm risking a possible microburst, the threat wouldn't be severe enough to inform the passengers. This is coupled with the fact that the nose of a plane is not pressurized, posing little to no risk to the pressurization of the cabin.
decompression in the nose cone
That is exactly what I thought it looked like. Looked like they sucked a vacuum on the nose too hard.
How'd it happen...nobody nose
Puns....The lowest form of humor...😂
Nothing to see here. That nosecone is perfectly fine.
Except it will affect your aerodynamics and fuel efficiency.
So give passengers the opt out from using that plane, No confidence in a plane with no duct tape over the nose
@@arribaficationwineho32that option is available nothing here folks!
Yup, seen that before. Worked on aircraft 20 years, seen that a couple times. Those nose cones usually made of fiberglass and covers the radar antenna.
Got hit by a red wave…
LOL I like this comment best😄😄
Not approved by Walz 😂
😂
No wonder it's damaged then.
Hahaha.....Good one.
Passengers don’t need to know they made it to their destination, they are done the end.
Looks like Mike Tyson punched it square in the nose! 😵💫
T doesn't like to be bumped to 2md class
Tyson can't punch anymore, must have been Jake Paul
That’ll buff right out
That’s the last time santa does a practice run.
Pilot must have been sky raging and rear ended another aircraft that brake checked him
Also ridiculous are those holes in her ears.
That is a mechanical issue that needs an explanation 😂
Yep!
Don’t you have two gaping holes on the either side of your head called ears?
Dude love the profile photo...I spent 1000's of dollars playing that game when I was a kid.
A lot of A-10s have dented nose cones from aerial refueling mishaps.
That passenger is fishing for a lawsuit
Ooh, the radome is dented! Be still, my beating heart.
"I've never seen or heard of anything like this before." Well, your ignorance and lack of experience is not anyone else's problem.
And the same thing goes for the reporters blowing it all out of proportion.
That sometimes happens when everyone on the plane breathes in at the exact same time.
A strike by an alien landing craft. They should be more careful! 👽
😂😂😂😂
Crews received an indication of a mechanical issue in the nose of the aircraft?” Double talk. I’m assuming the RADAR stopped working which was there indication because there’s nothing else in the RADOME.
And this is what we are to believe went through 5he World Trade Center? Like straight through the building and came out the other side? Hell no it should have crumbled like a tin can wtf….
Okie dokey
Obviously the aircraft hit something in flight... Could be a bird, chunk of ice, etc... Those nose cones, or radome, are typically made of fiberglass... So, they installed a new or rebuilt radome on the aircraft... This one will likely be sent to Tulsa to be repaired... I know this because I have hauled many of them out of that facility... No, the passengers were not in any kind of danger over this... The radome is outside of the pressurized fuselage envelope... Damage like this is somewhat common...
If it was hit by something passengers would have noticed.. Its probaly caused by differential pressure because the cone was sealed completely, while there should be a gap to enable air to vent in and out...Happened before, many times,
"Obviously" NOT! No evidence of any impact to the external surfaces of the radome. Likely a structural collapse due to a presently unknown cause.
Also will likely NOT be sent to Tulsa for repair. It is a Delta NOT American. Will likely be sent to Atlanta for evaluation / condemn.
@@MarcoNieropwhat? The pressure outside at altitude is much lower than inside? How could that collapse the cone? The plane clearly struck a bird and it would not have to be a direct impact to cause such damage.
You may be correct in it going to Atlanta, but will likely be repaired at NORDAM...
No big deal with just a bump on the nose just wait till the door next to you comes off or you look out your cracked window and see some of the fuselage peel off the wing and maybe a little fire and smoke come out the engine then you can complain to a disinterested management.
Had the same happen while I was piloting a 757 back in the early 2000’s. No big deal. Diverted to MIA, they slapped a new nose cone on, then we continued to MBJ…..
It happens. It's why they designed it that way.
This would be funnier if it had been the plane with a flattened Santa on the nose.
It’s not a major issue, these people don’t know anything. The nosecone can just be replaced.
We flew back from Ireland on Sunday. In the middle of the ocean it felt like we hit something big and the plane dropped a couple of feet. I have been flying for over 50 years and have experienced bad turbulence over the years. This was different. Never experienced this before.
Turbulence alone would not cave in the radar nose cone. Something had to hit it.
Not necessarily.. It probably is caused by differential pressure because the cone was sealed completely, while there should be a gap for air to vent in and out... On the way down it failed to vent air IN and the differential pressure made it buckle.. just like your water bottle does on an airplane on the way down. If it was hit by something people on board would have noticed.. This buckling can go slowly without being noticed. Happened many times before.
Couple gallons of Bondo and some 80 grit sandpaper and rattle can primer .. good to go
Hey you did bodywork for me I think 😂
Reverse air pressure ha ha. Suction.
That’s just the radar dome for weather. It doesn’t affect performance other than increasing fuel consumption.
A dent won't stop a plane from flying, but someone drove that plane into a building.
If they didn't feel nothing When?
They were open the air Just go home forget about You made it safe. Good job pilots
Same thing happened to the OKC thunder plane in 2017
The passengers in the Volkswagen Beetle landed safely. The Volkswagen Operator was reported to the NTSB.
Al ot of you drive around in raggedy cars that are dented and sheisty. But a composite shape going through the air at 600mph isnt allowed to compromise once in a blue.
No bird guts or signs of collision with a drone. Obviously a UAP force field.
SHHHH! More "proof" drones need to be banned. As soon as they figure out the next thing to be scared of.
It hit a piece of ice-sometimes it can stick together, and not come apart until it gets to low altitude-it's hail.
It happened during the turbulence.
If it was a bird strike while landing, do you want the pilot to forget about the landing to announce to the passengers what happened? If you need to know so bad, get a pilots license and fly the plane.
*jus a lil ... **_beer bump_*
People ears like that is like seeing a plane like that.
The plane can fly without a nose cone. There are parts inside such as the glideslope/localizer antenna and weather radar. The plane also doesn’t need them to fly. If the weather was good at DEN then there’s no reason they wouldn’t land. Also, if the pilot said nothing about it, then there’s really no cause for concern from the passengers or a news company
If the buckling was caused by differential pressure, good chance the pilots did not have noticed it all, and discovered it when they departed the plane, or were notified by people from the outside...I work at the engineering department of an airline, and thios happened to us as well.. We were completely puzzled at first, until Boeing explained what caused the damage.
Guessing a pressure leak sucked the thin material inward
You are clueless SMH
Airspeed and airpressure collapsed the nose cone, as it is designed to do.
This isn’t surprising nor alarming for anyone who’s ever worked in aviation.
Looks like the radome purge valve got stuck at altitude and vacuum crushed it on decent.
Sigh. Not a real big issue. People don't realize how thin planes are... Could have been a bird and no one noticed until they got on the ground.
its a plastic shell that covers the radar. the fact that the radar was undamaged is more amazing to me.
If you look at most commercial aircraft closely at their nose cone, you will see it's usually cleaner or even a slightly different colour, that's because they get changed a lot !
Something like a Canada goose will easily do that level of damage & it's designed to take that damage.
Duck strike. No mystery, Daisy reports Daffy was drunk flying.
But again, the question remains, what caused the dent?
The nose cone covers radar and other avionic systems. A crushed cone would also affect the flow of air. There is also a danger the cone could break loose and be ingested into the engines or fall to the ground.
LOL.
The Weather Radar was out, so they couldn't dodge any bumpy weather patterns and had to trim the plane. She just wanted to be on the news and blab
The plane was scheduled to perform tricks at a child's birthday but showed up drunk and Uncle Buck punched it.
Just be glad you weren’t in space.
As ap mechanic I have seen this before usually caused by hitting a large bird in flight
This plane would be grounded once it landed .As a crew chief, I would have done just that. Then, it would go through an inspection and replaced.
Do you think that they did not?
This happened to an Oklahoma basketball team at 30,000 feet also years ago.
Are they going to keep flying it like that?
SMH
I’m sorry it was me Superman 😂😂😂😂
She ain't no expert.
I work on these type of aircraft and have seen radom damage many times of
Over the years.
That is not really the tip of the plane but a radar dome. Large grain/ball hail can make swiss cheese out of it.
Hear from my living room it looks like there is no scratched paint.
Looks more like it just collapsed from going through the air pressure. 🧐
How about Delta not telling ??????????????
Birdstrike?? I have seen this lots of times, cracked windscreen, dents very common occurance...
He got break checked at 30, 000 feet by a FedEx freighter.
Guys this is discrimination, having a dented nose is beauty!
Even a smaller bird strike can cause this kind of damage.
If you do your homework, and if you pay attention, this has been going on for many years. This is not even the first plane that has been in the news with this indentation on the nose. You all need to study Dr. Steven Greer’s work.
Happens all the time… nothing to see.. the drama..
Check the vent hole. I bet it's plugged
Planes are like busses used to be.
Oh wow… they were able to repair it overnight. I thought it was totaled.
Pop it off, check the radar antenna, install a new nose.
Well clearly if the pilot is still flying the plane, it has to be safe
Did you want the pilots to jump out?
Not really an issue for flying so long the electronics are fine.
The plane got a 4 hour nose job and was back in the air shortly after.
Goose can cause serious damage to the nose cone. It is a Radome
Ok everybody, bird strikes can dent or even penetrate the skin of an airplane or get ingested into an engine and either take the engine out or Cuisinart and just exit in very small pieces. Or, large chuck of hail in the turbulent clouds. Or even lightning can do that, imagine that, had that happened on a military transport years ago.
A midair fender bender. I wonder if they exchanged info.
On September 11, 2001
a whole cone was seen emerging intact after traveling throughout the building,
from one side, to the other... 🤔
And now you know why Rudolph has a red nose.
They need to say why this happened...why are they not talking about it???? Where is investigative news?
They hit a deer on the runway
Who is they?
They just told you. It's turbulence.
@@miki_9034 Who is they? Do they lie, like Trump?
@@AlbertHess-xy7ky Nobody lies like tRump.
is this why the government was talking about aliens?
In other words, it was all a big nothing.
Traffic stopped suddenly.
Nose cowls are known to weaken and cave in, probably disabling the radar antenna, which would be a mechanical issue, but not in that kind of weather.
You have to use turn signals when a UAP is nearby. They will run right into you if you don't.
RIP SANTA CLAUS 😂😂😂
Obviously hit a space ship.
It's a shame the dented government didn't cause more concern.