In the early 70s, I was in a club that started out at with 10 members and got up to 30. We weren’t or tried to be a “bad ass” club but a riding club. But at the end of it, we were “persuaded” into joining a LARGE club and half joined and half didn’t. Over time, only a handful remained in it. I was in it for only a month. Not long after that, me and 3 others were asked to join the main club in town and that was a dream come true to me. I was in it for almost 2 years, until my bike blew up. That was it for me.
@@FingersFew Thanks for that Fingers but YOU Brother, have done things in your life, that I’m envious as hell with. I see my life as little league, while yours is about as major league as you can get. Much, much envy and respect. And Thanks for being a good friend!
So True !! i've been in the club world since i was 14 from AMA to 1% Support and back to AMA and i have been the Founder and Co-Founder of a minimum of 4 clubs, and honestly i found it easier to start clubs because i was not allowed to join many clubs because i was a Navy MA (LE) and i had trained to become a police officer once and i'm from an Irish family full of cops and fireman, one of the clubs i founded we did it the right way started with a 5 inch patch on the front and a slick back, then a single back patch, then a 3 piece with a city rocker and finally a state rocker, but then the club was patched over by the local 1% (one of the big 4) because of my background i would have been forced to turn in my patch, but i had already done that when my job took me elsewhere. I brought back an old club a few times and what killed it was 1% interference and power-hungry members who just used the club as a steppingstone to the local 1% club, i was even in a National 99% club and the chapter president stole money from prospects and money due the national to start his own club, and totally divided our chapter with those of us who stayed loyal to the original club and those who joined the newly formed club, i spent many years trying to rebuild the original chapter and finally retired my patch, and i'm now an inactive member of an AMA Club and HOG
Bruce - that's some big shoes you filled! Obviously you have some good (if not great) people skills. Thanks for your service to this great nation and helping protect everyone's freedom. I appreciate you sharing the evolution of your background. I absolutely enjoy hearing the journey my fellow bikers have had.
We did good then, almost 6 years for us, and we were just a riding club. A bunch of guys that got tired of the MC world and went off on our own. Just as you explained here, things were good for a while but we were all burned out from being in MC's. You can learn a lot from the 1%er's too. No women members. We should have stayed with that. We tried to be nice, but the different priorities of the women ultimately caused us to drift as well. Great segment here Fingers.
When I grew up it was always respected, respectful or responsible to contact the higher Mc club groups to basically get permission. Or let them know you wanna start an MC CLUB. My hometown is hells angles or the sons of sam. The rest of the clubs around are just doing it for the wrong reasons and are a joke. But the OGs of the club life you still give respect to. Just remember we're out here to have a great time riding. Having that freedom and able to go whenever for however long.. we're out to have fun and why start something with another rider when this is what brings us gear heads and riders together.
Very true.. was with another club in the past (military/1st responder type MC) to many folks, 95% military wanted the hard an fast life and I can be part of that so I stepped away. Found another one bout 7yrs ago, 100% LEO, traditional MC. I figured needed to be with others that have something to loose, love to ride and have a good time.. lol.
one of the big reasons in the uk is you cant ride where you want anymore the uk isnt a very big country and a 100 mile ride might see you pass through 5 different clubs turf i know a guy who has to use a harley dealer 50 miles away even though he has one 8 miles away
In my opinion, you would need to start slow and small being extremely careful on the types of members you bring into the club. In other words the core group need to mirror each other in the most basic ideas of the type of club you are wanting. Each member needs to be part of the by-laws creation. After all, the by-laws will serve as the constitution of the club. You would need strong personalities that can reason, plan, negotiate and articulate ideas or values. I could go on and on but this may give you a starting point. It's not easy.
All the reasons you listed are the main reasons I don't belong to a club. Ain't nobody got time for that! Loved your backhanded dig at the DOJ. Ride safe, watch your six, keep the faith.
Any information is useful. Probably number is the most popular reason a club would fail. It's the reason I won't join. I'm late to the game and have to much to manage to be able to contribute and enjoy club life. Be safe
In the early 70s, I was in a club that started out at with 10 members and got up to 30. We weren’t or tried to be a “bad ass” club but a riding club. But at the end of it, we were “persuaded” into joining a LARGE club and half joined and half didn’t. Over time, only a handful remained in it. I was in it for only a month. Not long after that, me and 3 others were asked to join the main club in town and that was a dream come true to me. I was in it for almost 2 years, until my bike blew up. That was it for me.
Phil, my brother you have lived the life man. I can’t say thanks for your input enough. Much respect.
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Thanks for that Fingers but YOU Brother, have done things in your life, that I’m envious as hell with. I see my life as little league, while yours is about as major league as you can get. Much, much envy and respect. And Thanks for being a good friend!
Thanks, Fingers! Very good video.
So True !! i've been in the club world since i was 14 from AMA to 1% Support and back to AMA and i have been the Founder and Co-Founder of a minimum of 4 clubs, and honestly i found it easier to start clubs because i was not allowed to join many clubs because i was a Navy MA (LE) and i had trained to become a police officer once and i'm from an Irish family full of cops and fireman, one of the clubs i founded we did it the right way started with a 5 inch patch on the front and a slick back, then a single back patch, then a 3 piece with a city rocker and finally a state rocker, but then the club was patched over by the local 1% (one of the big 4) because of my background i would have been forced to turn in my patch, but i had already done that when my job took me elsewhere. I brought back an old club a few times and what killed it was 1% interference and power-hungry members who just used the club as a steppingstone to the local 1% club, i was even in a National 99% club and the chapter president stole money from prospects and money due the national to start his own club, and totally divided our chapter with those of us who stayed loyal to the original club and those who joined the newly formed club, i spent many years trying to rebuild the original chapter and finally retired my patch, and i'm now an inactive member of an AMA Club and HOG
Bruce - that's some big shoes you filled! Obviously you have some good (if not great) people skills. Thanks for your service to this great nation and helping protect everyone's freedom. I appreciate you sharing the evolution of your background. I absolutely enjoy hearing the journey my fellow bikers have had.
We did good then, almost 6 years for us, and we were just a riding club. A bunch of guys that got tired of the MC world and went off on our own. Just as you explained here, things were good for a while but we were all burned out from being in MC's. You can learn a lot from the 1%er's too. No women members. We should have stayed with that. We tried to be nice, but the different priorities of the women ultimately caused us to drift as well. Great segment here Fingers.
You’re absolutely right. The reason the 1%ers have been around so long is due to figuring things out that work.
Good info, keep up the good work. 👍🏿
Thanks for being here Lucky. I appreciate it.
you Sir hit the nail squarely on the head on all points.
Thanks Swampy. I appreciate the feedback.
"Mechanics" club. To hell with the "fun". Except for naked night.
Words of wisdom.
Tell ‘‘em fingers. I’m leaving acT next week. Headed to St Louis to pick Up 66 to Cali. See you on the road. Safe travels.
Heck ya! Enjoy the mother road!
Good info, Fingers
Thanks Doug!
You nailed it Fingers
Thanks Kell. I appreciate you tuning in and continued support.
It seems here lately I've noticed clubs popping up everywhere! This makes me wonder what it will look like in 3 years or so.
I’m going to bet that the majority of them won’t be there in 3 years. It’s a tough game that’s not for everyone.
When I grew up it was always respected, respectful or responsible to contact the higher Mc club groups to basically get permission. Or let them know you wanna start an MC CLUB. My hometown is hells angles or the sons of sam. The rest of the clubs around are just doing it for the wrong reasons and are a joke. But the OGs of the club life you still give respect to.
Just remember we're out here to have a great time riding. Having that freedom and able to go whenever for however long.. we're out to have fun and why start something with another rider when this is what brings us gear heads and riders together.
Very true.. was with another club in the past (military/1st responder type MC) to many folks, 95% military wanted the hard an fast life and I can be part of that so I stepped away. Found another one bout 7yrs ago, 100% LEO, traditional MC. I figured needed to be with others that have something to loose, love to ride and have a good time.. lol.
Glad it worked out for ya. Too many don’t figure it out until it’s too late. I appreciate you watching and commenting. Keep it safe.
one of the big reasons in the uk is you cant ride where you want anymore the uk isnt a very big country and a 100 mile ride might see you pass through 5 different clubs turf i know a guy who has to use a harley dealer 50 miles away even though he has one 8 miles away
That’s sadly true. Putting on a patch will cause loss of freedom or the act of violence to defend it.
Thanks for tuning in and commenting.
How would you make a club successful?
In my opinion, you would need to start slow and small being extremely careful on the types of members you bring into the club. In other words the core group need to mirror each other in the most basic ideas of the type of club you are wanting. Each member needs to be part of the by-laws creation. After all, the by-laws will serve as the constitution of the club. You would need strong personalities that can reason, plan, negotiate and articulate ideas or values. I could go on and on but this may give you a starting point. It's not easy.
My best suggestion to make a club successful is to be a mature adult and not start one at all.
One word. Personalities.
A huge part of it all. I appreciate your input John.
Dudes calling other people cucks when he worked for the government 😂😂
All the reasons you listed are the main reasons I don't belong to a club. Ain't nobody got time for that! Loved your backhanded dig at the DOJ. Ride safe, watch your six, keep the faith.
I appreciate ya Padre. There’s plenty of reasons not to join but sadly too many do without thinking it through.
Thanks for watching.
Any information is useful. Probably number is the most popular reason a club would fail. It's the reason I won't join. I'm late to the game and have to much to manage to be able to contribute and enjoy club life. Be safe
Knowing what works for you and actually thinking things through is true wisdom.