The True Nature Of Child Stardom

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  • @trinaq
    @trinaq Рік тому +1535

    Jennette McCurdy's autobiography, I'm Glad my Mom Died", really says a lot about her toxic childhood, and how she was forced to be the primary breadwinner of the family from a young age. I hope that she's in a better place emotionally, now that she's retired from screen acting.

    • @socksfersold
      @socksfersold Рік тому +35

      It’s the first time a book makes me wanna read again

    • @TheGuardianssorrow
      @TheGuardianssorrow Рік тому +42

      I just got the audiobook and just the opening was hard to listen to! 😭 “Without my mom, who am I supposed to be?” I felt that to deep.

    • @kenziecullen4434
      @kenziecullen4434 Рік тому +1

      I just finished reading it today, and I can safely say that *I’m* glad her mom died!

    • @sidneyvictor7887
      @sidneyvictor7887 Рік тому +6

      Totally thought that this was where the video was going.

    • @zionculley1862
      @zionculley1862 Рік тому

      Oooooooooo

  • @sophiagomez1892
    @sophiagomez1892 Рік тому +711

    So apparently when I was young, I was scouted at a Walmart. My mom refused and when I was a kid hearing this story, I was mad that my mom didn’t say yes. She said she wanted me to be a kid and I didn’t understand. As an adult, I knew it was because she cared. And I appreciate it

    • @TheVoidedRealm
      @TheVoidedRealm Рік тому +35

      I wanted to be a model. I enjoyed dressing up in you know clothing to very tame and cute clothing, Having a light flash and looking at the end product made me really happy. They offered my parents the job, but my parents had different plans to live a normal life that hurt my heart badly as a kid I always and still do wanna be a model. Sadly I'm smoll and not that great looking even if people say I'm beautiful.

    • @MikaylaisaWindmill
      @MikaylaisaWindmill Рік тому +11

      that’s a great mum right there

    • @savannaaah
      @savannaaah Рік тому +9

      The same thing happened to me but with a ‘modeling agent’

    • @CamcrossJayStudio
      @CamcrossJayStudio Рік тому +4

      You probably wouldn’t took off anyway there’s lots of wannabes out there that never make it

    • @sophiagomez1892
      @sophiagomez1892 Рік тому +11

      @@CamcrossJayStudio ok? Lol

  • @erniefofernie
    @erniefofernie Рік тому +763

    Shirley Temple grew into a stunning young woman, I don’t understand why Hollywood was no longer interested in giving her roles. The philanthropy she dedicated the rest of her life to is very admirable.

    • @elithornton5217
      @elithornton5217 Рік тому +76

      Because they like them younger. Children= profit

    • @hope-cat4894
      @hope-cat4894 Рік тому +113

      Because she actually turned out ok despite the trauma she went through. She had a healthy set of boundaries that they wanted to keep pushing and they knew she wasn't interested in being taken advantage of.

    • @tw9991
      @tw9991 Рік тому +13

      Although if the producers and her agents really put their mind to they probably could have avoided this. She probably was very typecasted, especially with her being known with those big roles she had all were so similar.

    • @Treeeee2008
      @Treeeee2008 Рік тому +12

      They didn't want a beautiful young woman, they wanted a cute kid, I'm sure some people recognized her talents, but it just wasn't what the executives wanted.

    • @valkyriedarquese
      @valkyriedarquese Рік тому +34

      You get black listed if you don't sleep with producers

  • @TDLBallistic
    @TDLBallistic Рік тому +205

    Funfact: they killed off Carl in TWD because his actor, Chandler Riggs, turned 18, and they didn't want to pay him an adult wage. Every person on set was surprised by his death in the script, because if you know, Carl is one of the most important characters in the comics and is still alive as I type this. It's REALLY shitty.

    • @therealCrazyJake
      @therealCrazyJake Рік тому +37

      Wait, for real?! That makes Carl’s death EVEN MORE UPSETTING!!

    • @TDLBallistic
      @TDLBallistic Рік тому +18

      @@therealCrazyJake I'm not sure if it was ever outright stated, I kind of stopped giving a shit about TWD show after that, but it was heavily implied and the timing was right.

    • @bethanyvarre9142
      @bethanyvarre9142 Рік тому +12

      He eve applied for college in Georgia for that show

    • @TDLBallistic
      @TDLBallistic Рік тому +27

      @@bethanyvarre9142 he applied for college in the area AND moved closer too.

    • @cloudsombrero
      @cloudsombrero Рік тому +10

      What's really shitty is they didn't even tell him they were planning it and he even was choosing to go to college in georgia to say on the show

  • @AnymousScreams
    @AnymousScreams Рік тому +490

    I'm impressed people like Drew Barrymore or McCaullay Culkin turned out okay after years of working on their issues from being a child star.

    • @joecollas9942
      @joecollas9942 Рік тому +64

      They were on a very dark road as well

    • @AnymousScreams
      @AnymousScreams Рік тому +18

      Very much so. I'm glad they turned out okay.

    • @therealCrazyJake
      @therealCrazyJake Рік тому +51

      For a while, they weren’t okay… thankfully they were able to turn things around for themselves with the support of friends and rehab. From what I heard, Adam Sandler was a big help with Drew Berrymore getting her life back on track; say what you will about Sandler’s career, but he does seem like a caring and supportive friend and an all around good guy.

    • @AnymousScreams
      @AnymousScreams Рік тому +21

      @@therealCrazyJake I think he seems like a solid dude. He makes movies he wants to do, and often does them for fun, from what I heard.

    • @DistressedDamsel79
      @DistressedDamsel79 Рік тому +12

      Idk about McCaullay, but Drew comes from a family of actors and her godfather is Steven Spielberg. It’s not 100% the case, but the child stars who make it out, whether they decide to pursue a career in entertainment or not, seem to have a really good support system and/or come from a wealthier background. An exception would be Demi Lovato who was the bread winner of their family and also didn’t come from a stable family life. Their story reminds me a bit of Shirley Temple’s at the beginning of the video.

  • @alessandrajackson3768
    @alessandrajackson3768 Рік тому +595

    Child stars is one of those things that should be considered abuse that never are! Assaults, mental health issues, addiction, countdowns to 18th birthdays, grooming, eating disorders and more!

    • @blessedcocoa5729
      @blessedcocoa5729 Рік тому +18

      I never heard about the 18th birthday countdown till Millie Bobby Brown. I was horrified. How does any one think that is OK. I'm 19 and I still feel like a child much less when I was 18. It's horrific. I'm not surprised anymore when child actors go mad. And I've been through SA at 5, gained an ED and anxiety, I can't imagine growing up with that repeatedly happening and no one helping, and everyone looking into ur personal life and judging you or treating you like a spectacle. People are just sick.

    • @alessandrajackson3768
      @alessandrajackson3768 Рік тому +11

      @@blessedcocoa5729 absolutely. I’ll be honest I feel like my generation was still minors until about 21. And yea sadly there were men 40+ participating in that count down as well

  • @groovymovie3213
    @groovymovie3213 Рік тому +276

    Poor Shirley was robbed of her childhood. One time there was an incident on set when she was still little (I believe) around Christmas time where her belief in Santa Claus was completely shattered when the man dressed as Santa pulled down his beard and asked for her autograph. Her mother would also make her cry on purpose on set if she wasn’t faking it well enough on camera.

  • @DedlyBonk.
    @DedlyBonk. Рік тому +390

    Drew Barrymore really was the worst experience I’ve read/heard about, she went through every form of abuse possible, not to mention her mother allowed all of it to happen and even encouraged it.

    • @idreamed_adream2
      @idreamed_adream2 Рік тому +50

      Agreed. She dealt with drug addiction at like 9-11 years old I think. I did a biography project on her in school. Her story is really impactful.

    • @thesapphireone
      @thesapphireone Рік тому +34

      At the very least, she eventually managed to break away from the drugs, abuse, her mother, and made better life for herself, I hope she’s still doing well.

    • @psychedelicpayroll5412
      @psychedelicpayroll5412 Рік тому +5

      @@thesapphireone She still financially supports her mother

    • @psychedelicpayroll5412
      @psychedelicpayroll5412 Рік тому

      Spielberg was touching Drew and Heather O’rouke at the same time back then.

    • @charmander466
      @charmander466 Рік тому +13

      I'm honestly just glad shes thriving. there are so many bad stories, and she had a baaaaaaadd one, but here she is with a show, doing tik toks being happy in the rain. My girl has thrived. Just wish someone was there back in the day.

  • @dmichael7144
    @dmichael7144 Рік тому +203

    Imagine dying and no one even knows who you are for years and your loved ones don’t even know that you’re dead. Poor Driscoll! Poor Temple too. The fact that her parents pretty much let all those old men drop their pants in front of their daughter and stole all of her money is infuriating!

    • @chanceharding8585
      @chanceharding8585 Рік тому +15

      Bad Parenting is an understatement!!!

    • @killyyy370
      @killyyy370 Рік тому

      Goddamn O'Driscoll's

    • @soundslikepepsi2348
      @soundslikepepsi2348 11 місяців тому

      😊😊

    • @sineadbrennan-allen6045
      @sineadbrennan-allen6045 8 місяців тому

      yeah i know they really did my ^irish^ heritage/that guy/the bobby guy who is loosely related to me dirty here (thanks a lot disney/dickney for ruining this guy's life)

  • @ravenloh6677
    @ravenloh6677 Рік тому +135

    I wanted to add that the directors who had Bobby Millie Brown in their shows and movies said "I can't wait for her to turn 18 so I can do more stuff to her. "
    That's creepy. Imagine a film director and producer say to little kids : "I can't wait for you to turn 18 so we can make more profit out of your body."

    • @jasperrose1930
      @jasperrose1930 Рік тому +16

      Your "can't wait for you to turn 18" comment reminded me of a family friend we used to have. I grew up around him, his kids, his wife- Ect up until I was maybe.. 13 or 14? (Because he and a friend of his did some horrible shit to my older sister, of which is a whole other issue in itself) But he used to say to me all the time "Can't wait until you're legal so I can marry/any other adult thing you" And me, as a kid, didn't understand how fucking creepy that is. I was just a self conscious fat kid, with a shitty home life that took his comments as compliments. But considering what he turned out to be, and my other experiences with predators later on? THAT was a big red flag, that it still surprises me my parents never found it creepy.

    • @ravenloh6677
      @ravenloh6677 Рік тому +26

      @@jasperrose1930 This is why I vomit when I see people cheer on Child Beauty Contests and Kid Dance Shows because the parents and the producers are exploiting them through cosmetics, skimpy clothing and sexual dance moves. Does the movie "Cuties" ring a bell?

    • @crow-t-robot
      @crow-t-robot Рік тому +21

      That is so disgusting. Back when Emma Watson was still underage, they'd publish countdowns in the media/tabloids until she turned 18. I remember the same stuff happening around the Olsen twins. When Stranger Things had just come out, MBB was what, 12 or 13? I can still remember the sickening sexual comments about her on social media and I knew she would suffer a similar fate. Absolutely horrifying honestly.

    • @Scarshadow666
      @Scarshadow666 Рік тому +7

      Yeah, and it's kinda creepy how so many countdown elements are somewhat normalized in society in general, as well as in the entertainment industry. The stereotype where whenever a girl starts puberty is told that "they're a woman now" is messed up (and I wouldn't be surprised if some societal standards that are creepy come from hold-overs of previous centuries when children were in circumstances to grow up quicker).

    • @dougxvale
      @dougxvale Рік тому

      MILLIE Bobbie Brown

  • @psychedelicpayroll5412
    @psychedelicpayroll5412 Рік тому +349

    You should of mentioned Jackie Coogan. He was the first child star who actually had to sue his parents because they stole all his money. And a law was put in place called The Jackie Coogan law which requires the parents to make a trust fund account for the children in Hollywood. But they have loopholes and many parents seem to have taken advantage of it.

    • @Mrs_Sugar_Min
      @Mrs_Sugar_Min Рік тому +18

      Yeah the law is always being updated. 😶😶

    • @minespatch
      @minespatch Рік тому +6

      He's great as Uncle Fester but it's such a shame of what he went through.

    • @wildboywifey6485
      @wildboywifey6485 Рік тому +17

      Jeanette McCurdy's mom didn't get her Coogan account setup properly so all that money that should've been in there has never been given to her. Out of all the adults in her life (agent, on set tutor, director, adult cast, etc), not one of them was able to make sure the account was setup.
      Also I've heard only a small percent (10% I think?) is put into the Coogan account.

    • @therealCrazyJake
      @therealCrazyJake Рік тому +6

      I thought the Coogan Law was set up to prevent Studios from width-holding the child actor’s earnings after they “left” the studio. Or am I misremembering something?

    • @ma.2089
      @ma.2089 Рік тому

      @@wildboywifey6485 good thing mom died then. Maybe she got some of the money then

  • @trinaq
    @trinaq Рік тому +438

    Child Stardom is a shady business, and if I ever had children, I would never force them into a toxic environment like Hollywood, unless they were really passionate about performing. They deserve a childhood, first and foremost, not to be subjected to the fickle, seedy entertainment industry.

    • @WSendam
      @WSendam Рік тому +14

      I hope your okay man I really hate that child stars are still a thing and now UA-camrs are in on it I’m glad people are fighting back against this stuff also have a great day

    • @chanceharding8585
      @chanceharding8585 Рік тому +6

      Screw big Companies man!! 😡

    • @ma.2089
      @ma.2089 Рік тому +5

      It is possible to put your child through that and still have them turn out okay. That said, it seems like if your parents are like the Sprouse twins, and if you’re a boy (Alyson Stoner did pretty good too, but not as good as the Sprouse twins, who also cite the gender differences in exploitation/societal pressures) you can get out relatively unscathed.
      It’s still not something that ppl should jump into tho, but if they at least do what the Sprouse family did, things could be ok.

    • @ma.2089
      @ma.2089 Рік тому +6

      I realize it sounds like I’m implying guys got it “easier”. They don’t, it’s just a tiny bit more likely that they can get out fine just cuz of how ppl see girls and boys differently in society. But even so, it’s very difficult to get out fine overall, and you need to have REALLY good parents to do it, which sadly is a rarity for everyone, regardless of gender.

  • @kittyandbunnyPATD
    @kittyandbunnyPATD Рік тому +31

    I want to cry about Bobby Driscoll. I can’t imagine what he was thinking in his final moments, tossed aside by the world like that and left to die all alone. It’s so horrible

  • @kiwiequis4144
    @kiwiequis4144 Рік тому +151

    I had this one friend that said “who cares? Celebrities can afford therapy” and after that I unfortunately learned how fucking common this VERY CONCERNING mindset is… it’s ok to push trauma, assault and abuse aside because you THINK they can afford professional help to fix the trauma they shouldn’t have gone through?

    • @SageArdor
      @SageArdor Рік тому +29

      For a lot of these celebrities, it's not about affording it. It's knowing that seeking it requires exposing the abuse, which is all but guaranteed to get them fired and/or blacklisted.

    • @Scarshadow666
      @Scarshadow666 Рік тому +13

      Definitely agree that it's a very concerning mindset! 0_0
      Here's hoping that the issues with the Internet/social media gets people out of that mindset and teaches people to be more empathetic, as it seems to do nothing else for celebrities other than dehumanize them and put them on a higher pedestal. With the Internet/social media, a lot of the issues celebrities go through are no longer exclusive to them - anybody has the possibility of going through them too now that it's easier for people to project themselves than ever before.

    • @SuperSara924
      @SuperSara924 Рік тому +18

      That’s a disgusting mindset. No one deserves to be traumatized, and everyone should get help through therapy regardless of their wealth/status. The fact people still think that way is so disappointing

    • @Scarshadow666
      @Scarshadow666 Рік тому +4

      @@SuperSara924
      Definitely true!

    • @thewanderingronin1924
      @thewanderingronin1924 Рік тому +4

      @@SageArdor Not true considering the therapist can get in trouble if he or she tells but I get everything else your saying

  • @cameronguzman-keller477
    @cameronguzman-keller477 Рік тому +104

    As someone who grew up watching Shirley Temple films, I had no idea about all the horrible things she went through as a child. No one should ever have to deal with all the abuse, grooming, and torture like these kids did. I’m glad there are those like Jeanette McCurdy who are healing from the trauma, but at the same time, it’s something that should’ve never happened in the first place.

  • @bedsidebetty
    @bedsidebetty Рік тому +88

    You have no clue how many times the story of Bobby Driscoll has brought me to tears. I'm so glad that more people are talking about it.

  • @0iqgremlin414
    @0iqgremlin414 Рік тому +59

    Miley Cyrus popped into my head almost immediately, she was a big disney star when I was young, she was Hannah Montana. Then when Disney dropped her years later she was openly mocked when she was hitting her "acting out" phase

    • @ghoulishtoad
      @ghoulishtoad Рік тому +9

      Which wasnt even that bad like oooohh shes wearing something slightly more than a bikini on a wrecking ball and licked a sledgehammer ooohh so wild

    • @bobtheball5384
      @bobtheball5384 Рік тому +6

      @@ghoulishtoadYeah fr though, people act like she was the wildest change but tbh it was very lukewarm in comparison to other childstars. Still feel bad for her though.

    • @trishaishot462
      @trishaishot462 Рік тому +2

      @@bobtheball5384 she did that to get image of being a disney star out of peoples way of thinking but she did that so people stop treating her like she is a role model when she is human just like everyone else and now she seems like a pretty normal person cause she is and industry can be pretty evil

    • @527398
      @527398 Рік тому +2

      And you'd be right. Let's just say her claims that, "it's her freedome" and that "she's free" have a real, legitimate ground. She's absolutely traumatized, but I'm afraid she might never speak on any of it. It'll definitely get her fully blacklisted and probably...worse.

    • @AnaAcuraErica
      @AnaAcuraErica 8 місяців тому

      @@ghoulishtoadughh well personally I thought it was low class n trashy that that white girl ket sticking her damn tongue out everywhere! And her vma performance sucked ass! Also, she didn’t come off as humble whatsoever which was very off putting

  • @Dij7897
    @Dij7897 Рік тому +197

    I hope you do more child star videos like this! I didn’t know about Orlando Brown’s past and my siblings and I used to be so confused as to what the hell happened to him. But how they dropped him is ridiculous and I hope he’s in recovery now.

    • @nicripolas816
      @nicripolas816 Рік тому +5

      I do not think he is

    • @TheNinjaNiky
      @TheNinjaNiky Рік тому +1

      He's not unfortunately, he needs mental help. Idk if you've watched any interviews or something with him but he's got something going on in his head. And it's a shame nobody seems to be trying to help him. I personally think he should've maybe became a comedian because he is a funny person

    • @nicripolas816
      @nicripolas816 Рік тому +14

      @@TheNinjaNiky He truly is genuinely funny. Even when he's clearly coked (or whatever drug is his vice these days) out of his mind. As someone who has struggled with addiction, it's sad to see. Such raw talent, but his life fucked him up so much he needed, and feels he still needs, drugs to cope.

    • @TheNinjaNiky
      @TheNinjaNiky Рік тому +7

      @@nicripolas816 he really is, I find my laughing at him all the time. Not because he's a car wreck, but because he is just hilarious. Even when he's being crazy. He really needs to stop bringing Simone into things though, that poor girl just wants to be left out of it. It's just in really bad taste, especially since they were both so young when they dated.

    • @ma.2089
      @ma.2089 Рік тому +1

      @@TheNinjaNiky Simone herself seems to be more sympathetic to him tho. She clearly finds it uncomfortable, but she also understands what he went through and has shown care for him. I’m glad she’s able to support him somewhat at least.

  • @1.21gigawatts2
    @1.21gigawatts2 Рік тому +83

    From the ages of about 3 to 9, my mother would force me to participate in child modeling. She would design the clothes, I would wear them. I actually became famous on a small scale in my state because I went on to win dozens of competitions. I even went on to become the Pineapple Prince. Because of this I was in newspapers often which resulted in me landing some commercials which I of course didn't want to do. Naturally dressing a kid in a bunch of goofy outfits is going to get them bullied and because I was in the newspapers all of the time my school found out. For my entire time at school I was viciously bullied all because I was forced to do something I had no interest in doing. Kids would never refer to me by my name. Instead I would be called f*ggot or p*ssy. Thankfully I never suffered like any of the children in these videos did and I received most of my earnings when I became 18 but it still took me a while to forgive my mom.

    • @SpellboundWolf
      @SpellboundWolf Рік тому +4

      What time period was this?

    • @1.21gigawatts2
      @1.21gigawatts2 Рік тому +14

      @@SpellboundWolf This occurred from 1996 to around 2002ish. This was back when newspapers were actually relevant.

    • @kenya1067
      @kenya1067 8 днів тому

      I'm sorry that happened to you. I hope you are doing alright these days.

  • @coltkillergaming5685
    @coltkillergaming5685 Рік тому +63

    Macaulay caulkin is the must obvious example of how it can ruin lives I’m glad he mostly recovered

    • @dougxvale
      @dougxvale Рік тому +3

      Same with Lindsay Lohan. Glad she moved out of the US and her life/career improved.

  • @Hessed3712
    @Hessed3712 Рік тому +42

    The star from “The Famous Jet Jackson,” had a very sad life. He ended up ending his life because of all of the crap he went through.

    • @John-Doe-Yo
      @John-Doe-Yo Рік тому +4

      I remember he was bipolar but what happened to make his life very sad?

  • @brendan9868
    @brendan9868 Рік тому +16

    Hearing that Shirley Temple knee’d that dude in the nuts really puts a smile on my face. Glad she seems to of gotten out of that cycle of abuse and got to live just a normal life

  • @inktonythekaonashigaster6631
    @inktonythekaonashigaster6631 Рік тому +43

    I always had a bad feeling about child acting in Hollywood, but hearing about Bobby Driscoll and Shirley Temple... it's heart breaking. Poor kid's had their own childhoods ripped out of their hands by their families and forced into a cruel place like the acting industry, makes me want to go back in time and give them a hug, tell em it's going to be alright and that their voice will be heard.

  • @whimai412
    @whimai412 Рік тому +64

    Honestly it would be interesting to see more on this like a multipart series. There is a lot of child stars to cover. 🤔

  • @Batmanstabbingadog
    @Batmanstabbingadog Рік тому +6

    Nick and Disney: child stars!
    Cartoon Network: WTF!

  • @hope-cat4894
    @hope-cat4894 Рік тому +74

    There might as well be a child actors guild or union to prevent these unsafe conditions. Repeat offenders like Disney and Nickelodeon seem to have _way_ too many kid actors going through struggles when they get older. Companies that rely on kids for profit should have higher standards of safety to watch out for abusive stage parents and creepy studio staff.

    • @KingOfGaymes
      @KingOfGaymes Рік тому +5

      I’m sure they’d find a way around it sadly .. they always do

    • @TheManWhoErasedHisNane
      @TheManWhoErasedHisNane Рік тому +3

      And that’s why most people don’t like disney as a corporation making shitty movies is one thing but raising kids as money farms then tossing them like trash when they’re not kids anymore is just plain vile.

    • @ghoulishtoad
      @ghoulishtoad Рік тому

      They dont care tho they just want money as good of an idea it is its not gonna happen this is all a symptom of our hellscape capitalist society

  • @P-P-Panda
    @P-P-Panda Рік тому +37

    I was never a child star, but my dad would record us and try to get us to make money and only think of business at a young age with our skills. So I’m thinking about work and having children and their children all at the age of 7. I couldn’t even go to Public school because of him and had to travel everywhere for more work. So like my social skills are horrible.
    Even tho I wasn’t in the child-star work like them and only had a “microscopic” taste of it, That shit hurts and still stresses me out to this day. Especially when they constantly bring it up and make it your fault for not succeeding how they wanted you too. I feel for these kids/and grown child stars so much 🙏 great video btw

  • @acemarvel1564
    @acemarvel1564 Рік тому +27

    Thank you for the history of celebrity trafficking

    • @ninjanibba4259
      @ninjanibba4259 Рік тому

      It pales in comparison to actual human trafficking

  • @svenskaela1234561
    @svenskaela1234561 Рік тому +23

    When I was a child talent agencies would come to our school and pretend they are just there for fun teaching us to model, act… but they actually scout kids. I got scouted after they lined us up and made us walk like models down a line. I took the card to my parents not knowing what it is and my grandma was so excited she wanted me to become a star but my parents refused. I was maybe 7 so I don’t remember much but it was one of the bigger fights my mom and grandma had.
    A few years ago there was a big scandal bcs a few people who were in the company came out and accused it of grooming and SA when they were kids. Idk what would have happened if my grandma had her way and I actually signed with them.

    • @tornadodee148
      @tornadodee148 Рік тому

      what did your grandma say when she found out about the scandal? her face must of been priceless. your mum must rub it in her face, like, every time they talk now.

    • @Mia199603
      @Mia199603 Рік тому +2

      Wtf were the authorities at your school doing while you were wasting time posing and playing models instead of actually learning the stuff you should've been learning at school?

  • @emmikate
    @emmikate Рік тому +18

    Bobby Driscoll has always had a spot in my heart. Thank you for covering him.

    • @emmikate
      @emmikate Рік тому +3

      Seriously. Thank you. I am sad they did this in the movie and I am glad more know about this.

    • @hennessygarciahg
      @hennessygarciahg Рік тому

      Me too

  • @meggnogg
    @meggnogg Рік тому +24

    This made me think of those articles that are like 'The child actors from your favourite childs TV shows/ films- where are they now?' with a surprisingly high amount basically saying 'unfortunately they couldn't get any more acting roles because they got old so now they live a totally normal life with a normal job, married with kids- such a shame they were so talented'

    • @jenniferschillig3768
      @jenniferschillig3768 Рік тому +5

      Peter Ostrum, who played Charlie Bucket in Willy Wonka And The Chocolate Factory, was smart. He was a talented little guy--it takes a special kind of child actor to make me feel like his character is a real kid and not a Precocious Hollywood Moppet (tm). Which was true of all the Willy Wonka child actors. But Peter decided one acting job was enough, and had a quiet but fulfilling career as a veterinarian. (Making animals well is okay in my book.)

    • @oliverbrownlow5615
      @oliverbrownlow5615 Рік тому +5

      @@jenniferschillig3768 Thus proving he really was the good-hearted kid he played in the movie.

  • @Sinamuna
    @Sinamuna Рік тому +28

    Man, I didn't know about Orlando Brown... I'm so sorry he's going through that. I hope he does get serious help and improves.

  • @JIMBOMcGramble
    @JIMBOMcGramble Рік тому +3

    Pig: just talking about the most fucked up shit
    The bird: just fucking dancing and vibing

  • @slightlyhoopla4215
    @slightlyhoopla4215 Рік тому +8

    20:20 talks about child stars moving on and getting better.
    Shows picture of Demi freaking Lovato

  • @ILikeTheIvy
    @ILikeTheIvy Рік тому +7

    I always go to what happened to Corey haim, river phoenix, drew Barrymore, Jonathan brandis... drugs, abuse, being forgotten , being surrounded by people who want your money or don't help or care for you. The stories of these children being passed around, or given drugs before they're even teenagers. It's a disgusting scary business.

  • @Promthanius
    @Promthanius Рік тому +6

    Jonathan Brandis and Brad Renfero are also super sad stories. Dying alone just makes it worse

  • @SuperSara924
    @SuperSara924 Рік тому +11

    I feel some of the blame for former child stars having emotional breakdowns can be placed on the parents not protecting them. A good example of a child star with great parents is Mara Wilson aka Matilda. They were very protective of her, made sure she only had parts appropriate for her age, and made sure she got to be a normal kid too. When she decided she didn’t wanna act anymore they let her stop, and she is now a well-adjusted adult who does writing/charity work.
    At the end of the day, the parents are the ones putting their kids into acting. Even if they wanna act, its the parents responsibility to keep them safe. But too many parents are leeching off their kids and living vicariously through them, they fail their main task as a parent.

  • @josephsawyer3982
    @josephsawyer3982 Рік тому +36

    This is a topic you can revisit over and over again, the 2 Corey's and so many others before and after. It's a very relevant conversation.

  • @conandabarbarian
    @conandabarbarian Рік тому +5

    The Punishment Box sounds like something Miss Trunchbowl from Matilda would install next to the Chokey. 😬

  • @LucyInNightmares1
    @LucyInNightmares1 Рік тому +5

    The kid who did the voice for Peter Pan had a very tragic life

  • @liberpolo5540
    @liberpolo5540 Рік тому +102

    I especially hate how we, as an audience turn a blind eye away from this in order to not have "our childhood ruined" and instead put the blame on the victim and make fun of them like the asshats we are.

    • @senritsujumpsuit6021
      @senritsujumpsuit6021 Рік тому +6

      Sometimes fans hate a person who just wanted to make a passion project
      The sequel to Battle Royale was mostly made by the directors son after he died an people shit on the sons for not being his father

    • @ma.2089
      @ma.2089 Рік тому +5

      The thing is, I hope ppl who feel like their childhood has been ruined can understand that their feelings as a child were valid and I’m sure the kids who acted in those roles wouldn’t want anyone to feel like shit cuz they enjoyed them in ignorance. You can still appreciate the good stuff that came out of it, know that you’re not a bad person for having enjoyed it at the time, and had it influence you. But you must acknowledge how horrific it was in reality and still want better for the victims. We can do both. It’s incredibly self absorbed to claim “childhood ruined” when nothing hurt you directly, and the victims are the true ppl who had their childhood ruined. Ppl think that if they enjoyed it they were just as bad as the abusers and then want to blame the victims and feel “superior” as a result. But you’re only as bad as the abusers if you victim blame.

    • @ghoulishtoad
      @ghoulishtoad Рік тому +7

      Ppl who say thay didnt have real childhood trauma so its kinda funny to me like oh just hearing it ruined ur childhood? try having your parents beat the shit oit of each other then we'll talk about"childhood ruined"

    • @liberpolo5540
      @liberpolo5540 Рік тому +2

      @@ghoulishtoad 100%!

  • @dizzydee6362
    @dizzydee6362 Рік тому +53

    Of course we've come leaps and bounds from sitting kids on ice blocks and giving them cigarettes and pills to suppress appetites cause they're 'too fat,' but then things like the stories of Jennette McCurdy and Alexa Nikolas come forward and it's revealed how much further we have to go to protect kids in the industry.

  • @ThatDudeWithBoobs
    @ThatDudeWithBoobs Рік тому +37

    Glad to see you're letting Shadow become a big part of your videos, definitely helps to get through the more serious topics.

  • @thebusinesswoman23
    @thebusinesswoman23 Рік тому +7

    Appreciate the comments about how you're not a "bad person" if you struggle with substance use or mental health issues. You'd think it's common sense to understand this idea, but it's still prevalent in society today. Stigma kills .

  • @16driver16
    @16driver16 Рік тому +6

    Shirley Temple was in a thing called "BABY BURLESQUE"

  • @TheYoungGeninSasuke
    @TheYoungGeninSasuke Рік тому +4

    Bug hall from the little rascals 1994 film, came out to talk about his experience in Hollywood at a young age on his youtube channel. It was very sad.

  • @LoganKeatts
    @LoganKeatts Рік тому +4

    Makes me think of how River Phoenix was essentially murdered with a concoction of drugs KNOWN to be deadly

  • @yourclairygodmother
    @yourclairygodmother Рік тому +6

    As a kid, I always wanted to be an actress, but I knew I wanted to wait until I was 18 to start professionally because of all the child star horror stories out there. My heart goes out to every kid who got hurt by these demonic corporations; chewed-up and spit out onto the streets as soon as they're sucked dry of all their luster. Shirley, Bobby, Orlando, Jeanette... every last kid. No child, no person, deserves the childhoods that they suffered through. Parents, be careful and attentive of your children: you never know what is happening behind the scenes.

  • @reypapi655
    @reypapi655 Рік тому +6

    I think Orlando Brown is a grown man speaking his childhood truth .. Maybe he was touched as a child or seen something .. We don’t know how his childhood was he’s been acting since the 80’s you can imagine who’s he’s been around .. Sending Healing Energy

  • @ElijahParker55
    @ElijahParker55 Рік тому +6

    jeanette mcurdy is a prime example as well that poor girl

  • @MrTim-sh6ru
    @MrTim-sh6ru Рік тому +9

    I’m surprised you didn’t mention Corey Feldman…. Dude has been through a lot

  • @chloekm7958
    @chloekm7958 Рік тому +6

    I'm suspect of any parents of child stars.

  • @amberfox9543
    @amberfox9543 Рік тому +6

    It’s sad what happens to child actors, especially how unphased some are when they die young.

  • @ItsHappyHourArchived
    @ItsHappyHourArchived Рік тому +23

    Craziest thing about shirley temples story. 44k in 1940’s when she wouldve become of age to take it, is 800,000 in todays money and 3 million wouldve been worth 60 million today. So dont get me wrong she still had loads of money to buy and invest in whatever she needed to continue to stay rich. But the fact that her parents stole 59 million is insane🤣

  • @berlyngrey9242
    @berlyngrey9242 Рік тому +36

    Take the 2 Corey's for example (Feldman and Haim) they came forward about the abuse they suffered at the hands of Hollywood.

    • @azadalamiq
      @azadalamiq Рік тому +4

      the two Cory's, Macaulay Culkin, neil patrick harris whom turned it into a comedy awareness, pretty much look up any 80s to 90s kid star and they came out at one point saying how gross the industry was. the child stars who made a career past child hood is such a short list.
      NPH barely had work past Dougie houser but came back strong with his "i was a child star and failed after" comedy that he got back into it strong with how i met your mother, and various web shows, same with will wheton. MJ was such obvious considering things. saun astin as well he got lucky.

    • @berlyngrey9242
      @berlyngrey9242 Рік тому +1

      @@azadalamiq I know, there's so many people who have been abused in the industry it's so sad. I can't imagine as a parent having my child in that line of work and not watching over them like a hawk to try and make sure something like that doesn't happen. While in many cases the parents do know and just want to keep the cash flow coming in. Pure greed and selfishness and the kids are the ones who suffer. I can guarantee there are more child actors who were abused and just never came forward or public with it

    • @oliverbrownlow5615
      @oliverbrownlow5615 Рік тому

      @@azadalamiq It's worth mentioning that Sean Astin's parents were successful actors in their own right (John Astin and Patty Duke Astin). They didn't need his acting income, or that of his brother, Mackenzie Astin, to keep their family afloat.

  • @xCUMMIESx
    @xCUMMIESx Рік тому +4

    PIG, dude you should make this into a video series and focus on one child star per video and it could be more in depth. I would love that, it would be super interesting.

  • @ClownClakerz
    @ClownClakerz Рік тому +5

    The ice block thing is so disturbing because in end it’s a type sexual abuse/genital mutilation

    • @oliverbrownlow5615
      @oliverbrownlow5615 Рік тому

      It's truly weird, but it reminds me of what evangelical "child preacher" Marjoe Gortner said about how he was able to "miraculously" memorize long sermons as a child: if he made a mistake, his mother held his head underwater in the bathtub. As a young adult, he made a movie about his experiences, called *Marjoe* (1972).

    • @SlapstickGenius23
      @SlapstickGenius23 Рік тому

      @@oliverbrownlow5615 Marjoe Gortner is one of the stars of StarCrash too.

  • @PeninsulaPaintings
    @PeninsulaPaintings Рік тому +6

    I'm really happy about this overall shift in tone towards child stars going off the rails. It still comes with a sense of smugness and mockery from regular people with the sense of "can't feel sorry for rich kids!" mentality. But with SO many horror stories out there now, it's impossible to ignore the reality of child stardom and how awful it can be!
    The ones that turn out okay, are usually ones with decent/smart parents and/or ones who know the industry well (i.e. Sean Astin, Elijah Wood, Jason Bateman, Kurt Russell etc.). The ones with shitty folks, either crash and burn (i.e too many to fucking count!), or have to work extra hard to overcome the 'child/teen star curse' in adulthood (i.e. Drew Barrymore, Robert Downey Jr, Macualay Culkin etc.).

  • @princesskristan
    @princesskristan Рік тому +7

    I never knew the story about Bobby Driscoll. Peter Pan was one of the movies I watched alot as a kid, and it's so fucking sad

    • @oliverbrownlow5615
      @oliverbrownlow5615 Рік тому +3

      The complete story is even sadder than what was told in the video. Bobby wasn't merely buried in a stand-alone unmarked grave as shown. He was buried in a mass grave, from which it was impossible for his mother to retrieve his body. He remains to this day and will remain forever truly a lost boy.

    • @princesskristan
      @princesskristan Рік тому +1

      @@oliverbrownlow5615 Oh my god that's so awful!

  • @purplekittycreates
    @purplekittycreates Рік тому +6

    I love this take. I wish there were more laws to protect kids against this especially for the internet! And laws against paparazzi’s
    Also your lil bit tweeting caught in the microphone is just adorable

  • @salazar556
    @salazar556 Рік тому +2

    Jennette McCurdy and Britney Spears have really exposed the industry. Now that we have family channels, I won't be surprised if those kids come out and speak against their parents one day.

  • @catisyellen9877
    @catisyellen9877 Рік тому +15

    I had a strong feeling Shirley Temple wasn’t treated very well, and I guess I was right.
    I’m glad child stars are coming out about this BS more often lately. People need to know this. I also wasn’t ever a big fan of Disney, and now I’m even less of a fan.

  • @kayleebatchelor6857
    @kayleebatchelor6857 Рік тому +4

    I hate that people act like Child Actors can't make ANY mistakes in their adulthood. I mean out of everyone they're the SMALL handful of people who I would expect to make the most mistakes since they weren't allowed to spend their childhood making those mistakes. That's literally the WHOLE POINT of childhood. Learn, make mistakes, and navigate risks. It breaks my heart that they lose out on that....and then get shit on by everyone for doing drugs

  • @j.h.agonzales7936
    @j.h.agonzales7936 Рік тому +6

    Also didn't Shirly Temple become an international diplomat in adulthood? Or something along those lines. Either way she was one of the few that managed to fight her way out of the hell that is Hollywood.

    • @dougxvale
      @dougxvale Рік тому

      And in the 21st century, Hilary Duff survived the curse

  • @rockylujan449
    @rockylujan449 Рік тому +2

    Bojack horseman highlights the hell outta this issue

  • @ninetailsclub
    @ninetailsclub 16 днів тому

    2:10 Your cocktail shuffling over your shoulder into the shot lovely. Also, was like in beat with the tone of what you were saying like sidiling up next you. "Like yeah, look at this"
    Also, your cocktail has very lovely plumage. I miss my cocktail. Such beautiful creatures.

  • @thelanktheist2626
    @thelanktheist2626 Рік тому +2

    Something that immediately comes to mind is Judith Barsy.

  • @SpeedyakaLeah
    @SpeedyakaLeah Рік тому +5

    Judith Barsi is one of the most tragic.

  • @axtiexe
    @axtiexe Рік тому +4

    Very good video. I am very glad to see more people talking about how the child stars experience so much trauma and abuse through the industry.

  • @flying-magpie
    @flying-magpie Рік тому +1

    When I was young I wanted to be a child star and be famous.
    Now I'm an adult and I realize I'm the lucky one.

  • @ShortandSweet54
    @ShortandSweet54 Рік тому +4

    Another prime case study is Judy Garland

  • @kcirtapelyk6060
    @kcirtapelyk6060 Рік тому +2

    Bobby Driscolls story angers me the most out of all of these. That poor man was treated like a work horse/fuck toy and was treated like trash by almost everyone he ever knew. Even by his own parents.

  • @Tootz3374
    @Tootz3374 Рік тому +8

    Watching this vid makes me wanna vomit and curl into my body about pretty much the R^*e of Child stars from Judy Garland to Shirley Temple, from acting to the music industry and even dancing with Dance moms.
    It’s really terrifying

  • @dontprayforme
    @dontprayforme Рік тому +3

    When the hell did you get a birb? Lmao. My grandmother had two of those when I was growing up. They were awesome and lived for a long, long time it seemed like.

  • @alvariuztheplug5728
    @alvariuztheplug5728 Рік тому +5

    Remember Moloch? When parents offered their children to a pagan Deity and they burned them in fire....now you can make your own conclusions

    • @psychedelicpayroll5412
      @psychedelicpayroll5412 Рік тому

      Hollywoods name even has occult origins. It’s the name of a tree used to make magic wands. And moloch is still a worshipped deity among the witches in Hollywood. But they sacrifice black market babies and bathe in the blood in order to have ageless skin.

    • @psychedelicpayroll5412
      @psychedelicpayroll5412 Рік тому

      @@bloomygirl315 It’s a reference in the Bible where in Israel/Canaan they sacrificed their children to moloch in order to have economic advancement, crops grown and knowledge. Moloch looks like the Minotaur and they sacrifice the kids through the brazen bull and also beat loud drums in order to drown out the children screaming. People think he’s a fallen angel with close leadership to Satan which is why his worship as a god still goes on to this day.

    • @belleofbrightside97
      @belleofbrightside97 Рік тому

      @@bloomygirl315 that's real history

    • @psychedelicpayroll5412
      @psychedelicpayroll5412 Рік тому +1

      @@bloomygirl315 He also goes by the name of Baal who is the son of the sea god Dagon and husband of the sea goddess Asherah. Asherah is the queen of the fallen angels marine kingdom which is a gradual tool Satan uses since it is the most powerful spiritual force on earth. Her children are the evil siren spirits and she even disguises herself as the Virgin Mary because she goes by the pagan title the queen of heaven. I was raised Catholic and they worship Mary like a goddess every May and the ceremony is a copy of worship to Flora and Artemis. I’ve seen the siren spirits multiple times in the spirit realm and they do indeed have a sinister beauty to them and always want spirit sex if they aren’t trying to murder you or feed on your soul. Moloch’s symbol isn’t only the Minotaur. It’s also a owl. And Yahweh did that as a test. We all know Issac wasn’t sacrificed. He always tests us and the book of job showed that him and Satan gamble on our souls in a spiritual court room. They bet on what decision the human would make. And they had to practice animal sacrifice once a year in order to have their sins forgiven before Jesus was born. Plus Yahweh had serious restrictions on how to do it compared to it being to a another god. Yahweh always said no humans but the fact that Abraham heard Gods voice directly is what made him not argue. He only argued with God when he wanted to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah saying there has to still be good people there. And so that’s when he sent angels to go and check and only Lot and his daughters were warned to leave since nobody else listened.

    • @psychedelicpayroll5412
      @psychedelicpayroll5412 Рік тому

      @@bloomygirl315 Plus Christian’s are often clueless about the spirit realm which is what makes them a easy targets for anything. They always fell for the false light that they accuse others of falling for. Which is why I left the church for good and learned so much without it. Again like I said I was raised in the Catholic Church and they are clueless about anything spiritual. They don’t realize it’s a pagan religion since they not only worship Mary but also the saints. I have watched the rituals for years before leaving in my teens. The church services worship the sun gods and the Eucharist is symbolic cannibalism ritual.

  • @LabMatt
    @LabMatt Рік тому +4

    Disney does not have a good past, a good present, and I doubt it will have a good future either

  • @socksfersold
    @socksfersold Рік тому +6

    I feel like the only child stars who turned out alright were Dylan and Cole sprouse, considering their parents wanted them to have life experience like working at a restaurant and attending university and whatnot

    • @jenniferschillig3768
      @jenniferschillig3768 Рік тому +2

      The Harry Potter kids seem to have done fine--maybe because in the U.K., the acting profession seems to focus more on the art of it than "being a star." And their parents seem to have had it together. Jodie Foster never went off the rails, because she made sure to focus on her education. Peter Ostrum and the Willy Wonka kids seem to have done okay, though Peter decided against any more acting roles and became a veterinarian. Mara Wilson of Matilda also had parents who looked out for her, and turned out fine. (She wrote an insightful article on child stardom and why so many child stars go off the rails for Cracked.) And Henry Thomas--Elliott in E.T.--has had a pretty respectable career. The stuff he's been in has had a pretty good pedigree--Ishmael in an adaptation of Moby Dick with Sir Patrick Stewart as Ahab, the HBO movie about the McMartin child molestation case, a young Norman Bates in Psycho IV, the recent Netflix series The Haunting of Hill House. (And the short but very affecting "sequel" to E.T., courtesy of Xfinity.)

    • @socksfersold
      @socksfersold Рік тому +2

      @@jenniferschillig3768 yeah, and some child actors who aren’t with disney and nick also turned out well (Joseph Gordon-Lewitt)
      Parenting really does play a big part. I watched a video somewhere. It said that these nick/disney producers also look for children whose parents aren’t fussy about leaving them with the adults (aka gullible parents)

    • @oliverbrownlow5615
      @oliverbrownlow5615 Рік тому +1

      @@jenniferschillig3768 In the UK, child actors may work no more than six months in a year. Period.

    • @jenniferschillig3768
      @jenniferschillig3768 Рік тому +1

      @@oliverbrownlow5615 That's cool. Wish we'd adopt that practice here in the U.S.

  • @seraphineraevenwulf
    @seraphineraevenwulf 2 місяці тому

    Talking about someone who passed without a lot of people knowing was Jonathan Brandis. He was pretty big in the 90s and I had his posters. It was six months later that I found out that he unalived himself because I was curious about something he had been in. It's sad that so much of this goes on in Hollywood.

  • @Togethaaa
    @Togethaaa Рік тому +3

    Black died in 2005, and Temple in 2014.

  • @jarotheboar8398
    @jarotheboar8398 Рік тому +2

    It's like working in these companies, you basically sell your soul to the devil, and gamble to have it back, some did, some didn't

  • @JamesW609
    @JamesW609 Рік тому +2

    The most healthy child stars I can think of is Zach and Cody from sweet life and that was simply cause the dad was actually a dad

  • @reformedorthodoxmunmanquara
    @reformedorthodoxmunmanquara Рік тому +1

    I know this isn't the point of the video but I like the cockatiel walking around

  • @emmanueldeita5362
    @emmanueldeita5362 Рік тому +2

    Hearing this is actually horrific, not a supernatural horror but just horrible these pour humans being treated as such and it makes it even worse when you realize Sara Lynn story line in bojack basically is a combination of all these stories

  • @TheAngieIshmael
    @TheAngieIshmael Рік тому +1

    Really appreciate this video.

  • @Xamry
    @Xamry Рік тому +1

    Having a childhood robbed is something I feel one can never recover from.

  • @airotiv7916
    @airotiv7916 Рік тому

    I can never keep up with all the things I want to watch, even my favorites, so I don't know if the bird is new, but I LOVE that the bird kept you company in this one! TOO CUTE! On a more serious note, I don't understand how this channel still isn't better known. I mean sometimes more can actually be detrimental especially with the Internet being what it is and people being crazy sometimes but you put so much work into every video! I just wanted to let you know I love that about your channel Bionic, and I love how you bring and articulate serious matters with good humor and also much understanding, it's very human the way you treat topics (if that phrasing makes sense). You'll always be one of my favorites to come back to time and time again and thanks for putting this information out there! I had no idea! MUCH LOVE MAN ♥️!

  • @itsmoonlitbro
    @itsmoonlitbro Рік тому +3

    Man i love these documentary type videos.

  • @melaniefayemusic
    @melaniefayemusic Рік тому +2

    this is a good video. no one's ever explained it like that

  • @warcrimesagainstthepope7307
    @warcrimesagainstthepope7307 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the video. You did great on this.

  • @freyajagger84
    @freyajagger84 Рік тому +2

    I'd love a Part 2 this was so good!

  • @bigred6803
    @bigred6803 Рік тому +2

    If he ever makes a sort of sequel. He should talk about the kid who played Anakin (don’t remember his name, you know who I’m talking about) In Episode 1. That’s a super sad story about a Fans destroying a kids life.

  • @confectionary978
    @confectionary978 Рік тому

    I really like your outlook on this topic. You brought humour and you brought nuance to the discussion 👍

  • @brandon5568
    @brandon5568 Рік тому

    Thank you BionicPig for once again bringing up issues most people ignore. Love your videos.

  • @Ratstronot118
    @Ratstronot118 Рік тому +4

    awesome vid as usual, keep up the good work

  • @singamummy8420
    @singamummy8420 Рік тому +3

    Successful child stars include Drew Barrymore! She was doing drugs/smoking at a young age and look at her today, she’s one of the real ones, and Disney wise, Hilary Duff and Raven 💜

  • @noise_pollution69
    @noise_pollution69 Рік тому +1

    back in my day people thought kids were not humans

  • @erinlefevers7302
    @erinlefevers7302 Рік тому

    I'll always love your movie reviews, but I like this form of content from you as well.

  • @valerierose817
    @valerierose817 7 місяців тому

    I love how your bird is in your videos. So cute !!!!

  • @MikaylaisaWindmill
    @MikaylaisaWindmill Рік тому

    such a great vid. i remember i was younger and really wanted to be a famous musician when in elementary school. i’m glad my plan didn’t work out in that time since horrible people would have taken advantage so quickly. i was such a yes girl but now have matured and know what i really want and know when to say know and take it slow!

  • @shiko906
    @shiko906 Рік тому +3

    When Miley Cyrus made her post-Disney debut, I knew that it was her breaking free of her "Disney" image.