TRAINWRECKORDS: "Summer in Paradise" by The Beach Boys
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- Опубліковано 19 бер 2020
- The Beach Boys' endless summer had an ending after all, when they tried to capitalize on "Kokomo" and instead brought their comeback to a crashing halt. (Support Todd on Patreon! / toddintheshadows )
...I don't like Mike Love at all.
I admit to that.
Life in prison as a man who doesn't like Mike Love.
@Concepting Who?
Mike is a RWNJ (right wing nut job) unfortunately...
@@johnIZaUWL Protip. If you have to preemptively explain your acronym (IE, you just pulled it out of your ass), don't use it.
ok then
What does "life in prison as a ladies' man" even mean?
Fun fact: "Surfin" was actually written as an assignment for one of Brian Wilson's high school music classes. He was given a failing grade, because he was supposed to write a classical-style piano sonata. In 2018, as recognition of his contributions to popular music, his high school retroactively changed his grade to an A.
Bruh does it even matters at this point?
@@ratedr7845 its merely symbolic
@@DemRise1999 of what?
@@ratedr7845 of their recognition of brian wilson's musical skill. its an apology for dismissing it and a symbolic reparation between them
@@atlassolid5946 I highly doubt he even acknowledged this, just a big waste of time
A scene I can imagine with startling clarity:
Receptionist at Asian escort service: (sees caller ID, rolls eyes, picks up) "Hi, Mike. The usual?"
Mike Love: "Haha. Yeah, send one of the girls over to LOVE me long time." (chortle) "Get it? Because--"
Receptionist: "Yeah. I get it." (hangs up) "It's Mike again!"
Escorts: (groan, erupt into violent argument over whose turn it is)
My instinct is 90% sure this actually happened
Oh dear god
I don’t like Mike Love at all.
Yes.
That's beautiful!
Mike Love is that guy who thinks constantly talking to the Applebee's waitress's breasts counts as a compliment, and gets pissy when the manager tells him to leave.
😂😂😂😂😂
I could see all kinds of “hilarious” scenes of Mike Love being a gross, aging pervert.
Buying booze on behalf of underage girls, volunteering as a coach for girl’s sports, buying gigantic condoms to impress the cute cashier whose just trying to do her job, being banned from the local high school/college campus, randomly slapping waitresses on the ass after making a joke that definitely wasn’t funny.
All in good fun for your average preppy douche turned creepy old guy.
This comment is too much
@@CCAndPinkie
Every Shonen Anime ever
@@giantpinkcat not unless he defeats God with the power of creepy old man stink, a slap on the ass, and friendship
I’m pickin’ up bad vibrations
Best lower your expectations
Brilliant
ooo! good one!
😆😂👍
Burn!
Golden tier comment
I dont blame john stamos. If I was rich and famous I would try really hard to weasel my way into the foo fighters
happyMOO5 and I would do the same to daft punk!
Same but w/ Green Day
Same but with Fall out boy
same but with fuck i dont wanna ruin anything
Same but with Say Anything
A year later, "Charles Manson had more creative input in the Beach Boys than John Stamos" remains the single most brutal truth I've ever heard.
And he was much more musically gifted. I mean, “Look at your game girl”, was covered by Guns N Roses
@@docvince1491 Whoa, seriously? I get that Manson was more of a songwriting drifter, and less of a singer, and John Stamos is more of a douche and a "Mike Love-In Training", but wow. Manson really had more creative input in the group than stamos? Sounds both brutal and hilarious. Hilarious because stamos got screwed over, and brutal, because of the person above your comment about it being brutal. But I'm down for anything that legit screws over john stamos, aka, Mike Love 2.0.
Check out "Never Learn Not to Love" by the Beach Boys, then check out "Cease to Exist" by Charles Manson.
Yep. The Beach Boys actually recorded a Manson song. (Manson permitted Dennis Wilson to take the songwriting credit for "Never Learn Not to Love"; mind, they still wound up in a punch-up over it.)
@@NewhamMatt A strange coincidence is that on the album Never Learn Not To Love You is on, 20/20, are also covers by Leadbelly (Cotton Fields) and Phil Spector(I Can Hear Music) who actually killed someone!
and one of the drummers on the album, Jim Gordon, was a murderer too@@sitvisjes
It took until my fifth viewing before I realized that "Life in prison as a ladies' man" was Mike Love awkwardly trying to say "Yep, I love women, guilty as charged!" and not some sort of terrible prison sex joke.
"No, I don't like Mike Love. At all."
Lmao I didn't make a prison connection once.
I figured it was that, but some part of me also thought that it was him reacting to some criminal charge levied against him. If only...
His life in prison as a lady man
@@vincentdamienarneo369 Throatcut in C Block be like, "Yes, I like Mike Love a lot"
Mike Love sued Brian Wilson for co-writing credit on “Wouldn’t It Be Nice” because he ad-libbed ‘goodnight, baby, sleep tight, baby’ during the fade out... and won. Mike Love is garbage.
Ben K. Wow, that’s bullshit right there
Yeah he took things too far. Initially he had a valid case, as there were some songs he deserved writing credits on, like California Girls. But then his desire for recognition got to him, and he went for a load more that he didnt do much on.
And that's always been Mike's biggest problem: he's always demanded more credit for the band's success than he actually deserves; always wanting to be shoulder to shoulder with Brian even though he clearly isn't worthy to doing so.
ComeOnIsSuchAJoy id say so. Unlike some BB fans, i will give credit to Mike Love where its due. He gets a little too much hate and did genuinely cowrite some great songs, his contribution to Good Vibrations i especially like. But he overrates himself.
@@ComeOnIsSuchAJoy It's kind of weird in hindsight because Mike Love really loathed Brian's 'Pet Sounds' and 'Smile' material (which is just a more oblique way to say "Our fans are idiots. We're not gonna let these crumpet suckers steal our thunder. Who's this Jimi Hendrix fella?", at least until those songs turned to profit. Now that's some peak "Capitalism or die" shit right there.
Oh, and love the "Everybody's Got Something to Hide (Except Me and My Monkey)" reference for your avatar.
Mike Love is basically if every boomer stereotype was a real person
Tori H That’s the weirdest thing about that generation compared to the one before it: they have more hangups about sex than race.
Mike Love isn't a boomer.
@@IamThePedestrian Ok Mike
@Happy Blobfish Productions Ok Mike
@@Blobbert_Fish I don't mind when people get political as long as they are intelligent. I have a problem with todd because whenever he gets political he is either overhyping the problems in society as if we are in the actual apocalypse or something, which is just a very naive thing to do, or he is getting really uncomfortable over social justice topics and defaulting to someone else for authority, which just isn't very insightful or fun to watch.
This is one of Todd's absolute best for just how savage it is; "that band's story also includes Brian's abusive father Murray, Brian's abusive psychiatrist Dr. Landy, and Charles fucking Manson, yet somehow Mike Love towers above them all" always kills me.
Yeah, that line will probably outlive Todd. It certainly killed me.
And that man is called Love, what an irony of destiny.
Especially when you look into their studio sessions for the album smile that eventually got partially scrapped because mike was berrating brian over being a 'hippie' and thinking that evolving as a musician is pointless because 'money'.
Them scrapping smile is literally what caused brian to go into his depressed and bedridden state of self doubt etc up until the late 90s when he finally made a fully realised version of what he wanted to make in the 60s. for 40 years brian resented himself because of mike love...
@@willowsparks4576 especially since poor Brian was easily impressionable, and he eventually couldn’t stand Mike’s pestering anymore.
And that seems wrong. Mike Love is undoubtedly an asshole and a douche, but he is far less of a villain than any of those three men.
Throughout this video John Stamos kept popping up like a cut out of a villan on a Disney ride and it genuinely unnerved me until Todd finally explained it. Then it just made me sick
I don't blame you, dude/lady. Stamos is a preppy douche, like his idol, mike love. He's a "Mike Love In-Training". He also ruined one of the best songs of all time, (even though the original came out decades before I was born), (I was born in 1993), but it's still a great song, and seeing stamos using it to gain 15 minutes of fame, by stepping over poor Dennis Wilson's legacy, by turning "Forever", into a shitty karaoke version of itself, and a bad rap cover on Full House, a sitcom which I didn't think was any good in the first place. If you told me stamos was as genuinely creepy as mike love, I'd believe you. He wasn't happy enough, being close friends with mike, but to see him ruining a classic song like "Forever", makes me genuinely sick too, dude/lady. I'm sure stamos also makes everyone sick, and I'm willing to bet, he's also more than likely, also as unlikable as mike too. Someone tell john stamoa to go to hell.
A more apt comparison would be "popping up like an animatronic on Superstar Limo". He's fucking loathsome.
Congrats on the heart.
@@onthefaultline Okay, I genuinely did not know Stamos is so hated. What'd he do?
fun fact: the song “cold hearted” by paula abdul is about john stamos, which should let you know what kind of man he is.
A few years ago, I was in the gym and I overheard a guy in his 60s complaining about how his family thought he was a dick for refusing to give Christmas presents for his grandkids because he didn't deem the family to be "real Christians." He also complained that the atheists were destroying the country with their lack of morals. In the exact same conversation, he complained that the barely-legal teens he hit on never seemed interested in him and got with guys their own age instead... Anyway, that's the vibe I get from Mike Love.
aacsmiles Ewwwwwww
You sure you didn't just run into Mike Love at the gym?
Justin 🤣
🤮
I’ve noticed elderly people can be either some of the nicest or the nastiest people you’ll ever meet, there is no in between.
One of my aunts is a big Beach Boys fan and she told me once she listened to this album, she drove all the way to Key Biscayne Beach and tossed it out to the ocean shore. I can't make this up lol
HDX only reasonable course of action tbh
So she hates the planet?
Justin Coleman
Yeah. Come to think of it, that’s the worst kind of pollution
@@justincoleman3805 maybe listening to summer in paradise made her decide the earth isnt worth saving actually
Mike Love produced albums without Brian Wilson calling all the shots are not-canon, every Beach Boys fan knows this.
True story: recently i joined a dating app and one of the girls I came across said she was a big Beach Boys fan. I thought, "oh cool! She likes classic rock!" As I'm scrolling down her page, I discover she posted a picture of her with Mike Love.
I have never swiped left so hard in my goddamn life.
"LIFE IN PRISON AS A LADIES MAN" 😨😨😨
Nobody wants any of Mike's left over Love...
@@t.o.4251 "No, I don't like Mike Love. At all."
You didn't just dodge a bullet, you dodged a whole ass missile, LOL.
Dude, you could have been where Mike Love's love was. That's gotta mean something to a BB fan.
Just here to say: Brian Wilson is still a genius, no matter how hard Mike tried to torpedo his legacy.
This has "Jesus Christ is my N-" vibes all over it
kacper the trash boy
I love/hate you for reminding me of that.
Neighbor?
Caleb Dehart
Please tell me you’re joking
igga
Jesus is my ninja?
Being able to just casually name drop Charles Manson when talking about the beach boys is something that will never not astound me
It's not like he was a big part of the Beach Boys either. He was a drifter and wannabe songwriter who befriended Dennis and gave him a song he wrote for the band to record. The band took this song, titled Cease to Exist, paid Manson in cash and a motorcycle, heavily re-wrote it and added a bridge, called it Never Learn Not to Love, and released it as a B-side. Thing was, Dennis actually thought Manson had talent.
@@Anomaly188 Dennis had... some unique taste.
Oh man of you are into podcasts, check out You Must Remember This which had a series on Manson in Hollywood and it dives into Manson's connection with Dennis. It's a very wild series, but very good.
Craptastic13 I have “never learn not to love” on 7”. Okay song, wouldn’t be very memorable if not for the writer but a cool artifact
The Polanski home, where the Mason Family committed their infamous crime, was previously owned by Summer In Paradise co-writer / producer Terry Melcher. Apparently he threw Charlie out of one of his parties and Manson held a grudge. I don't know if he understood that Melcher had moved out before the murders or not.
"Life in prison as a ladies man"
That sounds like something someone with no shame says after they're arrested for sexual assault.
It's the new R. Kelly album
I don't like Mike Love at all
He gave you 30 years of his career
@@fuziontonygaming Robert….
@@marckyle5895
😂 Oh god…
Is it sad that I think he’d actually try to record it while in prison?
The beach boys have one of the most wild discographies ever. Started as a surf rock band, made one of the best albums of all time, one that was never released, briefly did soul, throughout the 70s reinvented themselves as a serious rock band before turning into a nostalgia act, yacht rock in the 80s, and made one of the worst albums of all time.
Oh yeah and That’s Why God Made The Radio exists too ig
Don't forget the other unreleased one that had one of the most drunk sounding jazz numbers ever made as an opener
They also ripped off Chuck Berry.
@@ECKohns So did the Beatles and the Stones, among countless others.
A 50 year old man with a beer gut wearing an American flag and shorts surrounded by beautiful 20 year old women in bikinis is more disgusting than any song I’ve heard from the 80s. Man does not understand the squick factor
Brilliant album.
I think you just described Florida.
Try hitting 70 wearing a bathrobe and having a 20 something harem at a Hollywood mansion.
antibishonen if someone has the good sense not to film it, there’s one less complaint to have
And then decades later, we see that picture of him hanging out with Donald Trump, and his shittiness is confirmed once and for all.
Fun fact: The only member of the Beach Boys' original lineup who surfed was Dennis Wilson.
Yep. It was his idea for their first song to be about surfing.
Non-fun fact: Mike also surfed but gave it up in the 70's, whereas Bruce has been a surfer most of his life (although I should imagine he hasn't done it of late, what with being elderly an' all).
:-)
@@NOWtheband Bruce also wasn't a founding member of the band, though he was there by the Pet Sounds era.
@@printthelegends - Correct.
Oh no say it ain’t so brutha
John Stamos wearing Aladdin clothes and rapping a beach boys cover song on Full House is... something that exists.
The funny thing is that was meant to be intentionally bad, and yet I think the actual music video is way way worse.
because the 1990s
Yep the 90s at times were f**king weird. Then again this decade was big for pet rocks. Let that sink in.
@@seamusburke639 At least the rap was so tasteless and unrealistic that it loops around to being funny. The proper track is just . . . well, like Full House itself a slab of cheese trying too hard to be sincere.
Smells like the 90’s alright.
Selling less than 1,000 copies in the 90's is an impressive feat. Studios literally recorded rain for an hour and went certified gold, multiple times. Mike Love got outsold over 100x per album by the fucking weather.
note to self i ever need quick cash then just go back to the 90s and record my god awful songs.
Name of this weather album? I want it
This cracked me up 😂😂😂
Yeah the 90s was the absolute peak before the internet cratered it. The commercial peak for the industry was in 1999 when something like $15 billion in CDs were sold according to Wikipedia which is crazy because that was pretty much the inflection point when Napster took off.
I mean I believe it. When I was a teenager I spent every dollar I had buying CDs every weekend. I'd buy an album just because I heard one song on MTV or even just liked the cover art.
@@bt3743 the problem is, you'd need someone dumb enough to produce it. There wasn't a lot of independent music sold in stores.
To be fair, Summer Love does have a good environmental message about recycling, since they're basically recycling their own songs.
Troodon HA good one
Me: Mum can we have Brain Wilson.
Mum: We have Brian Wilson at home.
Brian Wilson at home: Mike Love.
Thanks for the panic at the Disco reference
"The quintessential sound of summer".
Overproduced, fake sounding instruments and lead vocals delivered by a man with the same level of charisma as a plank of wood.
Nailed it Mike.
Why did you insult planks of wood like that?
@@GodZefir Plank from "Ed, Edd n Eddy" (un)inronically has more charisma than Mike Love! 😆
@@thema1998 I'd buy a Plank album.
It sounds like being at the trashiest beach resort in the state of Florida
Mike Love singing "seductively" gives me skin crawling demonic-born hives. I don't think I've ever felt more violated through a screen in my life.
Same here.
Reminds me of “Fantasy man”
the only thing seductive about Mike post the late 70s or so was his bank account.
“Why don’t you let me take you on a love vacation?” Can someone come get their grandpa please?
QUEENEmma Somebody call Jurassic park, there’s a dinosaur on the lose. Get a helicopter and tranquilizer gun, we need him out of here! Away from all these innocent girls...
nomobobby 😂😂😂😂
“Girls are always ready for a summer of LOVE” 🤢🤢🤢🤢
Time for your pills grandpa!
Daniel T 😂😂😂
This album sounds like the soundtrack to the world's most depressing resort.
Please take all my likes.
It's the kind of music I was worried they would play at the Vegas resort my family stayed at last summer. Turns out they actually blasted stuff like the Smiths and Stevie Wonder. Pleasant surprise.
The music for a resort where the shrimp gives you the poops!
Too me it sounds like a half finished collection of production demos that managed to escape into the wild.
This album sounds tailor-made for a dentist's office.
Mike Love oozes “uncle who your family blatantly tries to avoid” vibes
What makes it even better is that Brian and Mike are cousins. So Carnie and Wendy Wilson probably thought of Mike as their creepy conservative uncle!
I love Bob Dylan's response to Mike Love during the RRHOF induction ceremony.
"I like to thank Mike Love for not mentioning me"
(Both Dylan and the Beach Boys were inducted in 1988 along with the Beatles).
Don’t forget Elton John saying "Thank fuck he didn’t mention me!"
“I’m not a far right weirdo I care about the environment!” That’s great but no one tell Mike Love about eco-fascism
Might as well be "I'm not racist, I got a black friend!" Great, you have 1 person of color you can stand. Does NOT change the fact that what you just said is condescending, insulting and awful. Also, I call bs on him being an environmentalist standing next to "legalize coal" trump, both thumbs up.
lads there is kinda of a big leap between germans invading poland and voting republican
@@don_chanGD no shit, nobody called him a Nazi though.
@@ridleysomeliana-lauer5814 but far right?
@@don_chanGD
I'd argue voting for people invading other countries and establishing puppet governments in the name of "freedom and democracy" *is* far right.
Todd, it's obvious they would start referring to other songs in their environmental song: they had to send a message about the wonders of recycling.
If only the song those songs were tossed into wasn't a trash bin...
J. Baum Yeah, realistically it should’ve been sealed in a biohazard barrel. Ick, just the clips on the review make me feel slimey
baaaam! you hit a three!
BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRn
No wonder why Mother Earth is hurting because of Mike Love.
I went and looked up the clip of Mike Love calling Mick Jagger chickenshit, and as he and the Beach Boys were leaving the stage Elton John grabbed the mic and said "thank fuck he didn't mention me!"
I watched the clip of the Beach Boys as Brian gave his acceptance speech. I recall them standing respectfully except Mike Love who interrupted non stop. Asshole.
15:20 you gotta give them credit they’re so dedicated to the environment they’re recycling all their material
"Nostalgia is for two decades ago, not three"
Tell that to the absurd amount of 80s nostalgia that was released in the 2010s
Synthwave FTW!
Quite a lot of 90s nostalgia too though to be fair
That's just 'cause the 80s are special.
Of course, as a child of 1981, I'm completely unbiased. Without question.
Yeah, nostalgia for three decades ago is also a thing, but it's more in movies and tv. Lindsay did an interesting video about stranger things, IT and 80's nostalgia.
With time feeling faster and faster by the information revolution, we started to get things from even before, as the 90s and 00s felt still too close
I honestly cannot fathom that this album came out a year after Nevermind by Nirvana
Smells Like Boomer Ball Sweat?
Mind. Blown.
*Eddie Vedder:* (watching promo video for "It's a Love Thing") TURN OFF THE LIGHTS! IT'S THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE!!!!
Sell Michelle for food
When she says "How rude!"
The Beach Boys are better than Nirvana
The "no i do not like Mike Love at all" cutaway kills me every time.
I've been trying to nail down exactly why Stamos's version of "Forever" is so god awful, and I think I figured it out:
The original song is very low key and sensitive. The lyrics aren't exactly mind-blowing, but there's a heart-breaking sincerity to them that's impossible to ignore. Dennis Wilson's voice is very quiet and remote, like the end of a movie where the quiet nerdy kid gets to pour his heart out to his love interest. There's real emotion behind it.
Stamos's version, on the other hand, is a bloated piece of early 90s adult contemporary garbage that even Bryan Adams would consider 'too cheesy'. It comes off as a completely insincere piece of vanity fluff that stomps all over the things that made the original good.
Maybe it’s cause of nostalgia from watching Full House but I personally enjoy John Stamos’s cover of the song. Then again I haven’t heard the original before and the same goes with most of the output of The Beach Boys. Yeah really.
@@jesusrox4u then you should definitely give the original a listen, Dennis Wilson has one of his best vocal performances on the song
@@jackmarchant06 I’ve heard it’s solid
Top notch comment, they took this 'high school prom slow-dace' song and turned it into a fuckin power ballad.
This explanation makes a lot of sense! Thank you, after this video I listened to Dennis’ version on Spotify, and I think the charm of it is how gentle and quiet it is. It’s one of those songs that makes you lean in to listen, and I think it’s part of what makes it special
Who’s going to tell aging rock stars that nobody thinks it’s cute when they make music videos about hitting on women young enough to be their granddaughters...
You? Me? Todd? The whole world?
Yet they always find a taker.
The scene when he trash talks Mick Jagger...Mick is too busy bangin' Brazilian supermodels to car about the BBs.
Liv Tyler has a son who is the same age now as his mom was when she did the "Crazy" video.
@@NJGuy1973 Alright, fair enough, plus "Crazy" was a great song. And Alicia Silverstone was in the video too, right? Good song. Forgotten 90's song. Thanks for the reminder, dude.
Oh, they’ve been told as much for years. They’re just too wealthy, and have too little shame to care.
The lyric "Why don't you let me take you on a love vacation?" feels like he's making a terrible pun off of his last name and I firmly believe he should be banished to the Shadow Realm because of it
Kaitlin Dedman he is constantly punning on his surname. Ironic name given how hateful he is.
there are so many better puns that could be used with "wilson"
I just got that and now I want to die
Kaitlin Dedman don’t forget his first solo album “Looking back with Love”. It is 100% a last name pun
@@strawhatsnail He also has an unreleased solo album called Mike Love Not War
“We thought we should make the ultimate summer fun album-“ YOU DID YOURE THE BEACH GODDAMN BOYS
They did it twice already, All Summer Long in '64 and the Endless Summer comp in 1974.
The Smile Sessions is my ultimate summer album
Isn't the Beach Boys' entire discography just songs that are either about summer or summer-adjacent' stuff? Like, the Beach Boys pretty much just write stuff about the summertime and surfing and beaches- they're not going to write anything about sledding. Oh, wait, they did, and even then, they made it sound like a fucking summer song. Even when they wrote environmental songs it was about summer. Their last song in 2012 when they reunited for That's Why God Made The Radio was just "Hey, summer's over, guys"
I'm sure Mike Love sat in the control room listening to the final playback of this travesty and was getting chills, thinking it was genius and he was finally going to get the credit he so richly deserved for being the real brains and talent in the Beach Boys.
His lack of self awareness is quite something to behold.
Sounds about right lol.
oh 100000% absolutely he was. that would be the most Mike Love thing ever
@@GEricG seriously, there are modern recordings without auto tune, and he sounds like he's _dying_ when singing.
"Charles Manson had more creative input on the band than Stamos" - ouch, Todd.
The best part is that it’s true
Honestly, yeah. He wrote a pretty decent psychedelic song for them called Never Learn Not To Love, from their 20/20 record. Dennis Wilson gave him $200,000 worth of stuff in exchange for the rights to the track, hoping to make it a hit, but the record label refused to issue it as a single. As a compromise they made it the b-side to their god awful cover of Bluebirds Over The Mountain.
@@mellowyellow6572 Welp wouldn’t say the cover was awful though they did take some liberties on that one, not the best song an that album tho tbh.
@@ayatollahkhamenei5014 Being not the best song on that album does not mean all of them are bad.
Do you find one of the songs on the 20/20 to be bad though?
@@mellowyellow6572 it was only called never learn not to love after the Wilson brothers worked their magic on it. Manson’s original was cease to exist
So Todd inspired me to rewatch a Beach Boys episode of Full House, which is the first time I've watched an episode of Full House since I was a kid. Brian Wilson looks as miserable as you might expect, probably because they play Kokomo three different times. Brian just pretends to look busy the first two times, but the last time they play it in front of a crowd, and he deadass talk-sings gibberish over the melody completely out of tune. Its just him saying shit like "key bla bla" to the melody of Kokomo, and they didn't edit it out. There's even a point where the rest of the band looks visibly thrown off. He's also wearing a shirt that says "California for Dukakis", an obvious middle finger to Mike Love. I hurt myself from laughing so hard. Long live the legend that is Brian Wilson
There's a fantastic video of Brian at the piano asking (I think) Al Jardine to pinch his nose, and then immediately launches into "WeLl, EaSt CoAsT gIrLs ArE hIp..." while the other guys laugh their asses off. He gives zero fucks and that's why he's a legend.
I like to think after Brian regained control of his legal affairs and mental health, he just became sarcastically done with everyone's shit. And really, when you're related to and have to work with Mike Love, wouldn't you just be done with everything too?
Brian Wilson shake goodnight
@@SuperJNG18 can you find the link to that?
qw000pz Just search “Mike Love sucks” and you’ll find that and all content related to his suckiness
Was at Disneyland with some friends one day and got off a ride just behind Mike Love & his entourage. One of my friends with me said "I finally see a celebrity at Disneyland and its Mike Fucking Love?!?!"
Ouch
His entourage all looked like a bunch of douche canoes, to my recollection.
My ex-wife surprised me at work, years ago, with "Summer in Paradise" and "Still Cruisin" in shiny plastic, as she knew I was a big fan of the 60's Brian Wilson stuff. I have never had to force a smile harder.
I’m a Beatles fan, who unfortunately got a copy of Geoffrey Gulliano’s George Harrison biography for a birthday. I wish I could throw it away, but I occasionally read it to laugh at it.
I highly recommend the Harrison bio “Behind That Locked Door” by Graeme Thomson, I bought it for my birthday last year!
LoL, you're a good husband. You knew she thought you'd love it. Ha!!!
Still Cruisin' has my two favorite Beach Boys songs.
Now I know why she's your ex wife
@@empire0 It was sweet of her, but she didn't get the importance of Brian to the band at that point. Later on, '99 I think, we saw Brian at Symphony Hall in Boston. Best show of my life, and I've seen Brian and his band 4 times. It even topped the "Smile" shows for me. She "got it" after that.
I was at a free outdoor festival in Montreal and we heard this horrible cover of Good Vibrations. When we looked on the programme to find out who the embarrassing cover band was, we saw that it was actually The Beach Boys.
@Eddie at The LMV actually there lead guitarist Carl Wilson played a lot on the records from solos different Riff and even if it was just rhythm guitar he played on the road
M H The Beach Boys have become their own bad cover band.
@Eddie at The LMV I feel so bad for Carl, especially after watching this. What a talented guitarist and musician seen being completely underused and almost forgotten, especially in the last fifteen years of his life or so with the band.
A moment of silence for any of Todd's brain cells that died while reading Mike Love's autobiography. Godspeed.
I could barely get through it; I basically flipped through the entire section where he breaks down his lawsuit against Brian, detail by painful detail. Ugh.
*All.
mike sucks, brain and al forever, rip carl and dennis
He didn’t even mention the part where Mike Love drops the n word in his autobiography lmao
@@Agos226
What?!?
This is, by far, one of my most rewatched videos on YT. Its also the best trainwreckord. It has it all,
-one of the most important bands of all time
-Ego
-Desperate attempt at relevancy
-A genuinely terrible album that is laughably bad
-The comeuppance of one if the least likeable figures in music
Perfect combination.
Regardless of the utter trash that is this album, I think we can agree that Brian Wilson in that Baywatch video is a mood. His face just screams “I don’t want to be here.”
Can you time stamp it please?
Shadamyfan 1923 8:05 in particular.
@@jtm-inc2912 Thanks for the stamp. Which one is he though?
Shadamyfan 1923 the one in black, he kinda sticks out once you see him!
@@jtm-inc2912 I think I see him. Thank you.
I didn’t need to know The Beach Boys became UB40 for a whole ass album.
ZanraiKid yeah...
@@Ac0ustics0ul ...yeah, I can't believe I'm saying this, but UB40 was never as cringe-inducing as some of the worst songs on this album (which is most of them).
I mean that seriously. I can't stand UB40 most of the time but I'd gladly listen to almost anything they've ever done over this.
Jimmy Buffett by way of UB40. The whole thing is a creepy old man making music that sounds like a glorified hairspray commercial.
@@littlekingtrashmouth9219 The thing about Jimmy Buffet is that he never did shitty covers, has always kept to that beach bum/old sailor image, and actually has a bit of charm and a bit of a cheesy tone that you can enjoy.
This is just painful.
UB40: cultural appropiation when it was still "fashionable".
I've seen hostages in Taliban videos who look less sad and confused than Brian Wilson does in that BAYWATCH clip at 8:27.
I've watched that video multiple times because of how hilariously offputting it is and there's SO MANY shots of Brian Wilson looking various states of wanting. For instance, in your clip you can FEEL the director yelling at Brian to clap along to the beat and he just...wants to go home. My other favourite is right near the end when they're dancing in front of a van and Brian's looking at Mike like he's hearing the song for the first time and thinking "Dude they're 30-fucking-years younger than you. Eugh."
Well, it’s Brian Wilson. Sad and confused is kind of hi modus operandi.
haha i didn't catch that expression. he definitely wanted to die
He was probably kidnapped.
I KNOW! Why did he even agree to be in that video if we wasn't on the album at all?! Did his crazy therapist make him do it against his will? Baffling!
John Stamos is a Beach Boy as much as Drake is a Toronto Raptor.
Ha! That's a good one!
Oh no, I remember my dad singing those "Hey now well it's a love thing" and "People get together for some excitation" lines but i never knew where they came from until I watched this. I'm hoping I inherited my mom's taste in music.
Trivia tidbit: The entirety of this album was produced with a beta version of Pro Tools, making this one of the earliest albums to be produced wholly on a computer, along with Billy Idol's Cyberpunk.
and both are Trainwreckords
Difference is, Cyberpunk has its fans, these days.
Foxrider Scorpion I agree
That first Pro-Tools must have been a trainwreckord powerhouse. What other shite did it churn out?🤔
@@ScorpionViper1001 Strip out the vocals, and Cyberpunk might make good background noise for a Shadowrun campaign. The same could also be said for the rest of Billy Idol's output, to be fair.
"Life in prison as a ladies' man" ... is that the Harvey Weinstein gameplan?
Didn't Harvey get the virus?
@@TheJollyMisanthrope Exactly.
@@TheJollyMisanthrope name checks out
Briefly conflated Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein in my mind and got mildly confused.
@@hiimemily It's not worth trying to distinguish the two.
The most boggling thing about Mike Love is, apparently he practices Transcendental Meditation, which he started back in 1968 when he went to India (the same trip the Beatles took). Like he’s either doing it way wrong, or his chakra must be black as tar.
I can only imagine the stories The Beatles have about Mike Love on that trip. Or who knows? Perhaps he wasn't *completely* insufferable at that point.
Keep in mind that The Beatles all left that trip early…
@@BrendanJSmith I imagine the fact that all four Beatles have no stories about Love, while having LOADS of good experiences during the time, speaks volumes.
One of my best friends once said “Being roofied feels like listening to Kokomo by The Beach Boys” and this video just cements that association.
“My life in prison as a lady’s man”.
@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick I Don't Like Mike Love At All
This is basically "OK Boomer: The Album."
Also, I have a book on the 50 worst rock albums of all time, and the Beach Boys' previous album, Still Cruisin', was included, with the review beginning "For those waiting for the Beach Boys to hit rock bottom, the suspense ended with this album." That book was released in 1991, so if the authors had only waited a year...
Saintnick90 I kinda wish this book had come out a couple years afterwards. Then there’s a chance this album will be on that list!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
Hey man way to steal my joke! 🥴
In all seriousness though I highly doubted I was the only one thinking “OK Boomer” when I heard a guy from the fucking Beach Boys RAPPING.
Also this album got lucky it was released a year after a book of the worst albums ever.
@@thetonytaye oh god, I hope you don't look at Brian too harshly after you listen to "Smart Girls"
Kyle Hegedus That is basically half an album since some of the tracks were from the 1960s to begin with.
I read that 50 Worst book. It had some good Trainwreckords candidates like Starship's "Knee Deep in the Hoopla."
I actually said to myself, "That guy looks exactly like John Stamos."
That was bothering me until the big reveal
mostmelon It Is... John Stamos...
Yeah Uncle Jessie was the Drummer of the Beach Boys... for a time
I thought it was him, but then when Todd didn’t mention it at first just thought it was a weird coincidence.
I was wondering that the whole time and legit thought it wouldn’t be addressed at all.
Lol same
8:26 My God. You can see Brian for only a second there, but he's got a Vietnam-level thousand-yard stare.
*sad hand clap*
It's so tragic it's almost funny.
He had to muster up the courage to clap. That’s absolutely wonderful.
It’s weird that even FOUR decades on, we’re still in the midst of Eighties Nostalgia
Just shows how godawful music got after the 80s. Especially in mainstream terms.
I think 90’s and 2000’s nostalgia is way more prominent now. 80’s nostalgia is still there but I think it’s been tapering off lately after hitting its peak in the mid to late 2010’s.
@@Alexander-hi8bo Honestly it still feels like a lot of "90's nostalgia" isn't really real. Late Gen X are not nearly as marketably pander-worthy as early Gen X were, especially since most of them still hate corporate bullcrap 30 years later.
It appears in hindsight that it was the peak of our civilization. Who knew?!
Sad, huh?
I feel so sorry for all the young women who appeared in these music videos and live performances
I feel so sorry for Brian Wilson who appeared in these music videos.
I feel bad for everybody who appeared in these music videos and love performances who weren’t Mike Love.
@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick even Stamos?
Spider Doctor Nah, you’re right. Maybe not everybody
Those customer service smiles are doing a lot of work in those clips.
Mike love looks like that creepy uncle nobody wants to come to the cookout
“Yes, Uncle Mike, I’ve heard about the hot chicks you nailed. Could you stop please? I’m trying to enjoy my burger... and PLEASE put a shirt on!”
“Looks like”? He IS.
The best part is that he has looked like that for YEARS. Go back to any Beach Boys concert past '65 and he's already got George Castanza hair.
And the Alpha perv. version of Costanza game! Omg?! What a loaded image!?!? Oh,shit,what kind of can am I opening now? Fuggit! Because of this,I'm out!
@@mellowyellow6572 that's why he started wearing those stupid hats.
Recently I read a Rolling Stone interview with Mike Love from a few years ago. It doesn't really do anything to dispel the notion that his entire career was built around bitterness and jealousy towards Brian (even his wife thinks he's taken it too far), but there is one part that I found pretty interesting. Early on there's a paragraph or two talking about his life before the Beach Boys. He was 19, working at his dad's car dealership, and he just got his girlfriend pregnant. One particularly scathing comment pointed out out that if Mike Love never joined the Beach Boys, he probably would've had a pretty humble and decent life as a family man, and Brian Wilson would still be Brian Wilson.
Christ, what could have been.
Then, the lineup could've been Brian, Carl, Dennis, Al, David, and Bruce. What I would give to live in that timeline...
and with Blondie and Ricky as well in the early 70s. Blondie probably would've stayed too since Mike's brother Stan is the reason he left in the first place@@BrendanJSmith
That would have been so much better for everyone
There's an alternate timeline where Brian got the help he needed (without that bastard Landy) Smile was released, and both late Wilson brothers didn't pass away so soon, Mike dipped out for a meh solo career, and Al to got sing more on lead.
I want to live in that timeline lol
Holy shit I JUST noticed at 8:08 that Brian is standing in the back, leaning on a car, with the most “I don’t want to be here” face I have ever seen lol
Or the thousand yard stare he has at 8:27. I reckon he was supposed to wear the orange lifeguard jacket too but refused to make that effort.
@@Khenfu_Cake Those are definitely his own clothes that he wore that day.
What's funny is that at both these instances, you're so focused on Mike Love and you never notice Brian off to the side. But, once you finally do, you can never unsee it. And his expression is priceless both times!
@@seamusburke639 I love that it seemed like he made it a point to wear all black instead of a Hawaiian shirt.
The Hot Fun in the Summertime video looks like they invaded Sesame Street and cleansed it of the Muppets.
That Brian Wilson scene in that horrible Baywatch video is the saddest thing I see in my life.
You shouldn't watch the episode of Full House he appears in. He's medicated out of his mind.
He looks incredibly bored in it!
@@ACETYGRA Poor Brian, being reduced to a zombie in the horrible Love years.
Feels like he's channeling Orson Welles in that frozen peas commercial ("This is a load of shit, you know that?").
@@MikoyanGurevichMiG21 No kidding. And if you look at the slight smirk on his face you can see that the expression reads "Dear God this is fucking corny as hell!"
there sure is something about the plot of "don't let the bigwigs turn this boomer beach boys song into Black People Music" in that full house episode that makes me scratch my chin in deep thought
Was there a single named black character in Full House?
@@anone.mousse674 I can't recall a single black person on that show. Granted, I didn't watch that show a lot.
I remember it being a common plot point of sitcoms back then to have one music playing member of the cast get their single ruined by turning it into hip hop or dubstep or whatever and then have to do something to fix it. Drake and Josh did it, several Disney Channel shows did too I remember.
@@unmessable12 The funny thing about that Drake and Josh episode was that Drake called the ruined version of his song "Horrible, garbage, bubblegum pop," as though the original was hard rock and didn't sound like your average Hannah Montana song.
Especially when there's a rap song on the ALBUM!
The real kicker was that this album was part of a planned multimedia franchise formed by Mike Love called Camp California. Meaning he wanted to push this shitty music onto kids (on top of exploiting the oldies). There were huge plans supposedly, including video games (that eventually came out on the Turbografx-16, one of them called Yo Bro, not a good sign), albums featuring the bear mascots for this franchise, merchandise up the wazoo, and a full-blown cartoon. Mike wanted this franchise to be a huge deal to mark the Beach Boys' revival. And thankfully, all of those plans came crashing down when this album bombed spectacularly.
christ, it’s like the musical equivalent of cheetahmen (except cheetahmen had much better music)
Damn, that's insane. A part of me almost wants to see what that would've been like... almost.
Jesus Christ. Dennis Wilson must be spinning like a Beyblade in his grave
so not only is this mike loves pet sounds its mike loves the wall
amazing
@@reitraceMike Love’s Doug Walker’s The Wall
Fun Fact: The bar scenes in Cocktail were all filmed at The Don Jail in Toronto Ontario.
The Don Jail was infamous for being the site of most of the executions of people convicted of murder in the toronto area which included a botched hanging in which the rope broke and the hangman had to climb down into the pit where he manually strangled the condemned to death with his bare hands and the last public execution in canadian history which occurred in 1898.
It was also the site of the last hangings in canada which happened in december of 1964 in which an armed robber who killed his victim and a serial killer were hanged back to back and one of them was partially decapitated during the execution.
Holy shit
Nice.
@Shaun Jay
You can actually find an interview with the last serving canadian hangman that was filmed in 1972 which also show the don jail gallows being tested.
The room itself was a converted shower room on the second floor while death row was immediately one floor beneath where the gallows and death watch cell were, the distance from the death watch cell too the center of the gallows was exactly 20 steps, condemned inmates called the last walk "taking 20 steps to god".
That’s lovely
Oh.
"Stamos years"
He said that and I was somehow still shocked when I saw him in the Forever video.
Me too, I just found it funny that his version sounds like it's from the full house ost
Same here. I saw him playing the drums in the background, and I was like, "is this going where I think it's going?" And, it was. When he showed up in the Forever video, I immediately remembered that episode of full house... and I regretted it, every word I heard, and the very thought of uncle jesse, singing a power ballad, that was, at best, a karaoke version of an already good song, that I'd rather have been listening to, even though it came out decades before I was born. It did make for a hilarious reaction from Todd though, so there's that, dude/lady.
@@shawnfields2369 I hadn't noticed him on the drums, and thought Todd had just meant "Stamos Years" as a synonym for the late 80's / early 90's, so when the clip from Forever started playing I was like "... is that John Stamos?"
@@DStecks Yeah, I know, right? By stamos years, I also thought it was a synonym for the late 80's/early 90's too, dude. And although I grew up watching Full House, reruns, because I wasn't born when Full House was new on tv, I was born in 1993, specifically, September 15th, 1993. So I just saw the reruns. I thought it was pretty good back then, but I don't remember it fondly now. I've said this before, but stamos is also a preppy douche, and also a mike love in-training. They're both unlikable, and maybe stamos has also, never not been a douche, but I'm not too sure on that. I've heard stamos is a creep, like mike love. Creeping on women, and even told someone who wanted an autograph from him, that he only gives out autographs to "pretty women", or something. Not sure if it's true. But, you never know. He may also be a racist too, I don't know... just a vibe I get from looking at Stamos's face. Like he probably hates anyone who's not a pretty and white lady. When I saw stamos performing "Forever", with the Beach Boys, I also didn't expect him to be an actual "member" of the band. But, he's basically nothing more than a mascot, and a touring member, but, like Todd said; "he's barely even a Beach Boy". He's still nothing though. And as for "Forever", just listen to the Dennis Wilson original version. Ignore Stamos's stupid bryan adams power ballad cover version, or the shitty rap cover he did on Full House. Sure, stamos doesn't sound that bad on the karaoke cover of the song, but he still sounds like a douche, despite being accompanied by actual members of the band; and playing the guitar ok, Stamos is still kind of a douche. But yeah, even at it's best, the cover of "Forever", is just that, a shit karaoke cover version of a classic song. And that's all it'll ever be, at best. At worst, it's just stamos stroking his ego, trying to be something he's not, a rock star. Sorry for the long message, I'll end it here by again saying, just listen to the Dennis Wilson version of "Forever". There's no reason not to, just like there's no reason to listen to stamos's karaoke version of it. It's garbage, and the rest of the album's garbage.
I have watched this video so many times, but the moment "Forever" with John Stamos starts I always physically cringe. NOTHING prepares you for that
rerecording "Forever" was honestly kind of tasteless. that is Dennis's song, i dont just mean that he wrote it and sang it but i mean it is HIS song. Dennis was beloved by the fans and his young tragic death is heartbreaking. for his own band to rerecord the song without him just feels very wrong and distasteful.
I'm not a Beach Boys fan at all, and even I think it's gross to take a very personal song from a member who died and hand it over to the spoiled TV star who clearly wants to take his place in the band.
I love Dennis version and what I aw and heard today deeply offends me. It's like they slapped the crap out of Dennis' corpse
especially on this record
I think there are ways it could have been done tastefully. Carl could have done a really beautiful version (compare the Beach Boys' version of Dennis's "Only with You" with Dennis's solo version), and the fact it was sung by Dennis's brother after Dennis's death could have been both gorgeous and poignant if well produced.
This was not that.
I mean, if done right it COULD be a very touching and beautiful homage to a late comrade... But that's Mike Love we are talking about
This album coming from the same band that produced ‘Pet Sounds’ without *entirely* changing the lineup is maybe the most brain melting thing I’ve ever bore witness to
"Pet Sounds" was Brian's project, by the time the rest of the Boys got back from touring he'd had all the instrumentals done and ready for vocal tracks to be recorded.
@@1000huzzahs _Pet Sounds_ was more like Brian Wilson & the Wrecking Crew feat. The Beach Boys.
Many have said over the years that Pet Sounds should have been Brian Wilson's first solo record. Had his putting out the single Caroline No under his name caught on, perhaps he would have.
Summer of Love sounds a lot like Rappin' For Jesus.
It only takes an E to turn rap into rape.
But without the hilarity.
My crew is big and it keeps getting bigger
Adding John Stamos is sadly fitting, since Mike Love wanted to go back to the time of predictability, the milkman, the paperboy & evening TV.
Is that what full house is about?
@@Demiglitch those are the words to the theme song.
@@JennaLeigh Yeah, but you could still say that's what the show's about, though. And, aren't there more lyrics? I mean, the theme song is alright. Nothing special, just ok.
Everywhere you look
@@Shadamyfan-rs8xc True, it is everywhere you look. Everywhere you look.
Fun fact: my dad (actually both my parents) has been working as a flight attendant for over forty years now, and he said The Beach Boys were some of the WORST passengers he ever had. Basically because it was pre-9/11 they kept hogging storage space *including those meant for the crew*! So he can no longer listen to The Beach Boys without being lowkey pissed off, and I’m now convinced it might’ve been during this album’s release considering the timeline he presented.
I bet they have some wild stories
@@stefanfilipovits21 I mean the original story is pretty wild from what I do remember (my dad told me that a decade ago though) and I’ve heard a few other celebrities they had to serve over the years
How you treat others in the exhausting and nerve wracking tempest that is modern commercial air travel is who you really are as a person, deep down in your soul. As the fellow child of a commercial airline employee, I heard tons of stories, positive and atrocious, of encounters with celebrities. It definitely influences your feelings about an artist’s work.
All of them? That can't be true.
@@BrendanJSmith Eh you might be right, the airline industry is one of the top 5 Karen attractors after all. It’s just for good or for ill, being a famous people person that was a colossal dickweed is an easy way to get remembered in a bad way
The thing I find funniest about the current state of The Beach Boys is that Brian Wilson's touring act has *more* Beach Boys than the Beach Boys touring act.
I think every surviving Beach Boy except Mike has played with Brian's band sooner or later, which makes it even funnier
@@davidnissim589 Only one off the top of my head I don't know about is Bruce Johnston, but I give him a bit of a pass since he wrote some damn good songs back in the day (Tears in the Morning, Diedre, etc)
@@ProtoGhostal1701 Bruce played with Brian’s band several times, as did David Marks and Ricky Fataar.
@@davidnissim589 Blondie Chaplin performed with them in 2017, singing lead on "Sail On Sailor" and "Wild Honey."
I know, I didn't mention Blondie because he's been a member of Brian's band for several years now, as has Al Jardine@@orbyfan
"For a song about summer, all of the warmth has been sucked out of it."
Great line.
To paraphrase one Butt Head: "I hate it when old people try to rap!"
So I watched Allison Pregler's "Baywatching" episode that covers the Beach Boys episode of "Baywatch," and Mitch (Hasselhoff) crows about how as a kid he became friends with "Mike Love and the Beach Boys" and it was so obvious Mike Love had a hand in that phrasing. I was like, "If anything, it's *Brian Wilson* and the Beach Boys, you egotistical hack." Your analysis of that episode is spot on. Even when it's about the Beach Boys, it's about Mike Love's ego.
I always thought renaming the group to "Brian Wilson and The Beach Boys" would've been a good way to change the band's image after Pet Sounds in the late '60s.
So, I didn't find out about this until well after first watching this video, but I think the fact that he supported Tipper Gore should be more prevalent. John Denver was called to speak before the Senate during that fiasco, and he compared it to the Nazis burning literature that they disagreed with.
Let that sink in. John fucking Denver was more rock n roll than Mike Love when music needed somebody the most. Zappa and Dee Snyder spoke against it as well, but I don't imagine that was as shocking as the guy who wrote "Annie's Song".
John Denver is a fucking legend.
Yeah, he practically took a chainsaw to Tipper's argument.
And Denver's songwriting and voice remained strong throughout his life.
Wow that’s insane
Dee Snider of Twisted Sister managed to get an angry look from Mr, Boring Future VP Al Gore himself during his testimony.
During his questioning gore asked snider about the name of the band's fanclub which annoyed snider before gore brought up the lead single of their album Under The Blade and asked snider to explain to him how a song about sado masochistic sex could be appropriate for children.
Snider got really annoyed and explained that the song was about their guitarist fearing being sedated for a throat operation and then accused tipper of "having a dirty mind" to al's face which resulted in al gore trying to intimidate him with a "death stare" before someone else stepped in and asked another stupid question.
This is why I always had mad respect for John Denver. His music may be considered soft rock, he worked with The Muppets AND George Burns in the 70s, but he was a badass telling Tipper Gore and her fellow Stepford Wives that a stupid warning label is censorship.
R.I.P. John Denver
As a Beach Boys fan I can honestly say this make Kokomo look like Stairway To Heaven.
Do you mean a specific song or the album as a whole?
My theory is Kokomo stands out only because it was co-written by former Mamas and Papas member John Philips, one of the best melody makers in rock history
Whose daughter Chynna teamed up with Brian Wilson's daughters Carnie and Wendy in a group called Wilson Phillips.
And allegedly an infinitely worse human being than Mike Love.
@@dw89music73 Wilson Phillips were a one-*album* wonder. Their debut was huge. The second album flopped and they've only recorded intermittently since then.
Zombie Dodge very true! I grew up with the Mamas and the Papas and when I finally learned about them, and about Phillips in particular, I was frankly horrified
At least the cover of John Philips's old song California Dreaming by the Beach Boys was awesome. If not better, just as good as the original in the sense it feels melancholic af
17:40 I honestly thought Todd edited in that footage of babies looking so confused, but no, that's part of the actual music video
That is incredibly cursed...
My uncle, a self-professed Beach Boys superfan, has this album on CD. He was shocked when I told him he had a serious collectors' item on his hands given how bad he knew the album to be.
Wow, this is on the level of "Cut the Crap".
The mixing isn't anywhere near as bad as cut the crap. I actually got a headache when he played that first track.
It’s a worse album
More like cut. It. Out.
Aquatarkus At least the live version of that song (Dictator) sounded good. Bernie Rhodes practically destroyed what could've been the OTHER good song in that album.
Penny Lefcowitz Well, It sounds a little more coherent, but it’s embarrassing music from The Beach Boys.
This album sounds like The Beach Boys trying to catch up with the times and make an album that sounded totally 80s...
....three years after the 80s ended
You could say it's the Bowsette of albums.
not even, they jumped into the deep end of the pool and tried to make the Surfer Rock version of 90s sex jams.
A bit more like a year after the 80s ended. 1990 was still pretty 80s-flavored and shit didn't really start changing till Smells Like Teen Spirit hit in 91. Still, horribly behind the times, but a little less so.
This album helps convey why some people really hate gated reverb drums
I've never seen someone so gifted at acting in silhouette. The pure revulsion in your face at 7:14 was palpable
Looks like Lucy after getting kissed by Snoopy
@@sugarbugx3564 "UGGHHHH! Mike Love germs! Get some hot water, get some disinfectant, get some iodine!!!"
Thank you for this comment, I actually cackled
I can’t think of another band who were able to reach such transcendent highs and insufferable lows
tannerin What about Weezer?
Green Day?
@@kylehegedus5498 I don't think Weezer, for all of their pitfalls, ever sank this low.
@supernintendo64 Fair enough. Maybe I was being too hard on them.
From an Artist Standpoint...Eminem.
My sister is a big Beach Boys fan after taking a class on them in college and she HATES Mike Love. HATES him. And watching this episode, I get it. Also, my first introduction to The Beach Boys was Full House and for years I just assumed they were a cheesy Jimmy Buffet-like band. I didn’t hear Pet Sounds until later and I got it. So if Mike Love can take them from that to this, he truly is the worst.
Virtually EVERY Beach Boys fan hates Mike.
How one goes from helping write "Wouldn't It Be Nice" to making "Summer of Love" is proof that some people age worse than others.
King of the Void
Tony Asher was truly responsible for the lyrics on not just “Wouldn’t It Be Nice”, but on the entire Pet Sounds album. Mike was able to weasel his way into a co-writing credit because apparently the ending couplet of “good night, my baby / sleep tight, my baby” was substantial enough to warrant that. Lawyers, man. 🙄
Taking a class on the Beach Boys?
Man, I picked the wrong major.
Yeah, what a scumbag. If you'll excuse me I'm going to listen to "Never Learn Not To Love" by the Beach Boys/Charlie Manson.
I swear, the number of times I've watched this episode is shocking. I think this is my absolute favorite episode of Trainwreckords. It's just sad enough to feel bad for everyone, but just bad enough that you just can't help but laugh at it. It's like if you combined Kilroy Was Here and Van Halen III, with a hint of Marti Gras.
I'm here at least once a week. I can't help myself. It's always good for a laugh. "Petty dickery and shameless pandering" has become part of my daily vocabulary.
Hmm. It does have the ego of Kilroy Was Here with Mike Love trying to be a bigger presence as Dennis Deyoung was trying to go bigger with new concepts, it does have wonky production along with awkward vocals as the one off Van Cherone album and band drama with the members involving writing as CCR.
Though does it have muted bass as Van Halen III did and band members all trying to write within tension as Mardigras too?
My favorite's the one about Billy Idol's "Cyberpunk" album, because Todd has a soft spot for it, Billy's genuine enthusiasm to try something new for that project, and I listened to that whole album. I found it not THAT bad.
@@louisduarte8763 is probably the best of the "trainwreckords" featured in the channel
In an alternate timeline, the Beach Boys somehow remained functional after the 1960s and released some of the best yacht rock of the 70s, beating Steely Dan at their own game, and in the 80s became gracefully added synths to their vocal harmonies in a style resembling the US version of early OMD. By the 1990s, they would've gone power pop Jellyfish-style and in the 2000s incorporated more neo-psych qualities and hire Panda Bear from Animal Collective as producer.
Oh man, why couldn't that have happened...
Yes! All of these ways are the best way to keep their sound current while also experimenting and growing as musicians. Not the mess that Summer in Paradise became, in which you could argue you saw coming given the bad critical reception of Kokomo.
They did release great albums during early 70s, imo they should've call it quits after love you.
@@jokkergar Personally I'm a big fan of their early 70s stuff. Holland is very underrated.
Who knows? Maybe Smile was finished in this timeline
@@thomasobrien1841and Dennis and Carl were still alive, Brian still had his angelic voice, and Eugene Landy never would've entered the picture.
Interesting that John Stamos did an episode of Full House where he stopped "Forever" from being turned into a rap song for the sake of "decency", yet as a Beach Boy didn't stop "Summer Of Love" from sounding like...that.
Yeah, he’s talking about “decency” while covering a dead beach boys potentially best song, and not even being a beach boy. And doing it extremely bad. Talk about decency
@@strawhatsnail I don't covering the music of dead artists is bad, I mean that would make Christmastime pretty silent to say the least. But something about that cover is just so *icky*. Maybe it's Stamos showboating during what should be a sincere, intimate piece?
@@rachelhallie7483 Yeah, it's DEFINITELY due to the fact that stamos is boasting and showing off, that makes it seem icky, ma'am. I agree with you. Very, very wrong. And the crying babies in the video, speak for us all, in that regard. Because we'd rather be anywhere else, and crying at the thought of having to hear uncle jesse ruin a good song that came out decades before I was even born, (I'm only 27), fyi. And there's just the entire video itself. Stamos waking up in bed, shirtless, looking at the camera, like he's trying to hit on you personally, it's all, just... wrong. The babies in the video too, who look horrified to even be there, but that's probably because they're babies. Still, all wrong in almost every way possible.
There's just a really ugly racist undertone to rap being "the bad guy" in that plot.
@@anone.mousse674 Especially when there's a terrible rap song ON THE ALBUM
Today I learned John Stamos was in the Beach Boys.
I don't know what to think about it either. I hadn't thought about that in years. Technically, Stamos and his character on Full House, Uncle Jesse, are both in the Beach Boys. And it doesn't add a thing to either of their careers, or do a thing for anybody. It's literally nothing.
Grady, what's up?
Shawn Fields When the results are so bad that they manage to completely nullify both Full House and The Beach Boys.
Let's go surfin' now
Everybody's learnin' how
Come on on the safari with me
Me too (6 months later)
8:27 I think reluctantly-clapping Brian speaks for all of us.
"life in prison as a ladies' man" "no, i don't like mike love at all." literally one of the best edits in the history of this show. this episode is so good. also, does it come of as racist to anyone else that full house, the whitest of white 80s sitcoms, presented a song being turned into hip-hop (a predominantly black genre) as "selling out?" like uncle jesse would definitely tell someone to turn down their boombox and pull up their pants.
I think it's even worse when the version of hip-hop they had was... that.
I literally can't think of anyone who actually thought that was a cool or good sounding version of hip-hop except for marketing executives and out of touch school teachers.
I agree. That was the most boomer thing I ever fuckin saw
I don't necessarily think so, as hip hop was the dominant Genre at the time.
No it's just about it being a trend (which they turned out to be dead wrong about)
Exactly my thought.
"Oh no, this classic rock n roll song is going to be ruined by heathen black people music... that we haven't appropriated yet."