Hearing the whole conversation it was leading us gently and gradually to our own self. The witness, The observer thus giving us an enlightened experience.
Truth is beautifully explained .It is the best way to bring conciousness among peoples about the truth about the relationship between true self and obejctive world including mind , to escape the suffering of world .
Thank you sir, for explaining the first step into spirituality so simply put.... Becoming aware of every experience, externally, materially, internally, mentally and emotionally... Once we become aware of this we will realise that we are a spiritual being having a human experience. I am surely going to be more aware of this. Thank you.
What an absolutely simple and profound explanation. It's always enlightening and inspiring to watch a guru and a seeker converse. And it's a wonderful thing to witness people being introduced to this concept that completely flips their conditioned world view back to how it should be and they realise who they actually are. This is the first video of yours I stumbled across and you've got yourself a subscriber in me. This is an amazing podcast and it's only a matter of time before it becomes huge. Please keep it up. The world needs this more than ever.
When we realise that we are not the body and the mind that we identify with...then won't life itself lose its meaning? Why work,why have children,why have ambition,why to take care of health,why love or have affection to anyone....if afterall our own identity is a myth? What is the motivation to go forward then?
I witnessed all the 3 videos. Let me confirm my self what I have understood so far. I am a spiritual being witnessing the human experience. The human experience is like short drama being played everday with various roles involving some happiness and unhappiness moments and getting stored these experiences in the human memory. In the process, all my happiness or worries are coming in instalment making me feel unstable as human being. But my question is If I consider myself as spiritual being then i will not be get affected by happy or unhappy situation. Then what is the life of a spiritual being. To live like a stone without any emotions?
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and going through the videos. The emotions are very natural and we will experience them irrespective; the idea is not to suppress the emotions but live them consciously and transcend them by owing up to our true nature; By seeing our emotions separate from ourselves, helps us embrace them and do what is necessary rather than being pulled down by them. In the next video this will become much more clear.
Spirit or the being? Electricity itself or just its manifestation as light? Bulb functioning thru electricity experiences heat, cold etc but does not assign it a character certificate. 😂
@@tvame1183 "By seeing our emotions separate from ourselves, helps us embrace them and do what is necessary rather than being pulled down by them. In the next video this will become much more clear." If you see them as separate from you, it will create conflict. You will run away or you will fight it. You are the emotions. It is you, your thoughts, memories and images created in your field of consciousness. They are not separate from you.
Why the speaker did plagiarism? quote by Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, one of the greatest and favorite mystics of the 20th century. In one of his letters, he wrote: “We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are spiritual beings having a human experience.“
The revelation that we are the spiritual self with a human experience has been expounded in our Upanishads in various ways especially though Mahavakyas. And yes, thank you for bring this to our notice that the exact words are spoken by Pierre Teilhard and we have put this in our description. Thx!
Thank you ; The evolution is happens of body and that’s an established fact. However the very consciousness which is my fundamental nature - is that a product of evolution or the evolution happens within the consciousness - needs to be thought 😊
@@tvame1183 In the last 300K years, human life conditions have changed dramatically from generation to generation. This puts a lot of pressure on the physiological system to adapt and modify itself constantly. The human brain has evolved. The brain size and complexity must have also increased. So, the level of consciousness must have also evolved. Changes in DNA through various means (mutations, epigenetics etc) are passed on from generation to generation. What follows from this argument is that the brain and consciousness have evolved. Primitive animals (with smaller brains) have not evolved much because they live in similar conditions for millions of years; they have primitive consciousness. No brain, no consciousness.
Thank you for the detailed explanation:) We are taking about the hard problem of consciousness that does the neural activity of the brain leads to consciousness? It remains inconclusive as of now where it’s difficult to segregate correlation and causation. So yes, multiple points of views does exist here.
This one who refers to himself as 'we' is the one he is asking about i.e. he' asking about the one he is able to feel, perceive etc. This should be enough to indicate that the questioner and the one being perceived by him are same. However, one who is making question and perceiving happen is the same as 'electricity/enabler' behind the bulb that makes light happen. Electricity and light are different. Isnt it?
@@tvame1183 The hard problem of consciousness....hmm interesting. Just because scientists don't fully understand how the brain functions now does not mean that there is something that exists independently. This independent existence is even more crazy to explain. Anesthesia....no consciousness. such drugs work on nerve cells. No brain cells, no consciousness. Exact mechanism is not known YET I agree but without brain cells, you and I cannot have the conscious experience we have every day. Cause and effect....100 years ago people used to think thunder was caused by Gods when they were angry.
Loved the video.. but Sir is this knowledge safe to tell everyone? Or is it best to tell the one seeking for answers. I’ve also heard - its every humans birth right to know this 😁
Thank you ☺️; this knowledge should be made available to everyone and how many will be able to appreciate it will depend on the preparedness. No doubt this has been called as ‘ Secret Knowledge’ because of its abstract nature:)
1. Please enquire within yourself - "where can thoughts and feelings come from?". Since we know that they come and go, they can only rise and recede in a principle that survives thoughts and feelings and witnesses their appearance and disappearance. The only principle that survives thoughts and feelings is the consciousness which is eternally present. 2. The "we (or I)" that you are referring to as the maker of the thoughts and feelings, itself, is nothing more than a notion/thought - "me-notion". One thought cannot/does not give rise to another thought. Therefore the "me" is not the creator of thought and feelings. All thoughts, all feelings, all sensory percepts rise and recede in Consciousness alone. Even the me-notion rises and recedes in consciousness. It is equally important to note that the "substance" or the "stuff" of thoughts, feelings and percepts, is nothing but consciousness. 3. Have you recognized as a FACT, that you are not the body and mind? 4. The challenge is to see the above as a FACT and not merely an intellectual web of fancy or a belief. This requires a careful PERSONAL study under the guidance of someone who knows these matters. 5. Best of luck to you.
@@tvame1183 I respectfully disagree with you Sir. Having determined that there is no such thing as "mind" independent of thoughts and feelings, how can we say that the "mind" has its momentum. Furthermore, granting a provisional concession to the presence of Vasana, do the vasanas reside in the mind or outside the mind? I would submit to you that the so called vasana is just another thought; it is a mere concept given to satisfy the cravings of an intellect that tries to find cause for the phenomena of a state of duality (apparent one at that). Vasanas etc. belong to "speculative" categories and simply cannot be proved as Facts. All thoughts, feelings, percepts rise in consciousness and are nothing but consciousness alone. This is verifiable in human experience.
@@sridharreddy8011 If your mind creates consciousness, what proof can you furnish to support your statement? 1. By your proposed model, mind is the cause and consciousness is the effect. This requires a basis in time (in accordance with the theory of causation). Are you aware of time before your mind and consciousness appear? 2. In order to prove your proposition as a fact, would you agree with me that there must be another principle that witnessed the sequence of : (1) presence of mind before consciousness (2) see the "activity of mind" that gives rise to consciousness and (3) be able to see consciousness as a resultant product? In the absence of such a proof, your statement will remain your opinion and cannot be accepted as a Fact
Sure - The reference of ‘I’ itself is at multiple levels- body & mind, ahankara (self reference) or the observer. This video is mostly referring to moving the reference of self from Body & Mind to the observer.
If mind overacting¬ allow to pause a second, how can i be an observer?so mind made a trap. If i could be an observer&be in present moment, i could be relaxed,happy, being in bliss. But something not allow, it could be negetivity, evil or something. My goal is bliss, but i have to overcome thoughts.
Yes, Mind by nature is very restless. And it takes years of practice to work through it. There are practices to enable this. And it starts with awareness.
@@missimplytruthful You say: "If mind overacting & not allow to pause a second, how can i be an observer? So mind made a trap." Please answer the following questions: 1. Who is "I" in this question? 2. What is causing the mind to overreact? 3. If you pause the mind for a second, who is the observer who becomes relaxed, happy being in bliss? 4. What is evil and 5. What is a thought and how do you overcome a thought? Thank you!
These are very profound questions and I’m happy to discuss these. Hopefully each one of them will be covered in the forthcoming videos or you can also drop in your details in the website tvame.me and we will reply to you.
Sir: I agree with you. But I am going to play devil's advocate to make sure that the viewers of this video do not simply accept it intellectually; I will ask you regarding the witness that you reference starting 11:03 into the video. 1. When you say - You can separate yourself from the mind - who/what is that "you" that can separate from the mind? can that "you" that is "capable of creating the distance between the you and the thought", can exist independent of mind (giving provisional concession to the existence of distance between the you and the thought) or can the mind exist independent of that "you"? If so, how do we see it as a FACT OF LIFE and not a mere "intellectual abstract" which the mind is perfectly capable of "spinning"? I hope that you provide an answer to this question either here or in your next video. Thanks.
He can't answer because it's all a word play...nonsense without any rationale ..we are our thoughts ,likes ,dislikes etc which we experience through our mind...you are your mind..period..but as buddhism says our ahankara is not permanent...the person that you were ,both physically and mentally, a 10 years ago is different from the person now...the ahamkara or the I is non permanent...
Thank you for your detailed question and i understand where you are coming from , especially the 'I' which call itself the observer. Yes, there is a 'I' thought or the ahamkara which runs through other thoughts and that can certainly be mistaken as an observer. Infact , the I thought also comes and goes, so it can be observed too. There is still a 'presence' in absence of I thought. We will be covering these concepts as we go along.
Yes i am following you, Thank you for igniting the sprituality.
Thank you :)
I knew that we are different from our Body,Mind and Intellect but it never clicked fully like this before.Amazing. session.Thanks.
Excellent way of explaining 👍🙏
Thank you 🙏
What a simple and beautiful broadcast 💙
Thank you :)
I watched lot of spiritual videos but never seen this simple detail understanding
Thank you for sharing 🙂
Hearing the whole conversation it was leading us gently and gradually to our own self. The witness, The observer thus giving us an enlightened experience.
Glad you liked it, thank you 🙏
Loved the way things are put
Superb
I heard so many lectures on the same point, but this is understandable without much ado, of course impeccable.
Thank you so much :)
Thank you Sir for making spirituality so simple.Who are we is a profound question.
Truth is beautifully explained .It is the best way to bring conciousness among peoples about the truth about the relationship between true self and obejctive world including mind , to escape the suffering of world .
Yes, agree
You have tried to make it simple. Appreciated 👍
My pleasure 😊
Thank you sir, for explaining the first step into spirituality so simply put.... Becoming aware of every experience, externally, materially, internally, mentally and emotionally... Once we become aware of this we will realise that we are a spiritual being having a human experience. I am surely going to be more aware of this. Thank you.
Glad it helped, thanks for sharing!
Thank you, your demonstration is understandable, hope I can learn more and more about spirituality.
You are able to communicate well, keep going
Thank you 🙏
Absolutely spot on…..simple is complex but intelligence makes it simple - profound namaskars!!!
Thank you
Excellent video. Keep up the good work.
Very nice explanation..simple yet profound
Glad you liked it:)
Listen to swami sarvapriyananda....it's very precise and on the dot
super.
Thank you :)
Your way of explaining is very simple and easy to understand. Waiting eagerly to know more on this path. Thank you
So nice of you, thank you ☺️
The essence is beautifully explained that we are spiritual beings going through human experience.
Thank you 🙏
Thank you 🎉
Huge insight made so simple...
Thank you
Glad it was helpful 😊
Very interestingly narrated. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Beautiful rationale I liked that pause as real example... pause is nothing but observe ...
Simple, yet message is profound with elucidation
Thank you so much 🙏
Beautifully put!
Thanks for listening and your feedback 😊
Wonderful 🙏
🙏
Very good video
If any one wants to go deep in this field, there are best talks from Swami Sarvapriyananda and pravrajika divyanandaprana.
Absolutely 🙏
Thank you.. really very Interesting... waiting for your next session..
When will it be?
Thank you 🙏; it will be released every Saturday
Nice conversation.. #Smooth
Thanks for listening
What an absolutely simple and profound explanation. It's always enlightening and inspiring to watch a guru and a seeker converse.
And it's a wonderful thing to witness people being introduced to this concept that completely flips their conditioned world view back to how it should be and they realise who they actually are.
This is the first video of yours I stumbled across and you've got yourself a subscriber in me. This is an amazing podcast and it's only a matter of time before it becomes huge. Please keep it up. The world needs this more than ever.
Thank you so much for your kind words and encouragement. This motivates us to continue on this path 🙏
Good attempt. Keep it up.
Thanks a lot
Good teachings.
How to know sequence of lectures.
Ramesh Bhatia 23/9/2024 @10:01 pm
Bhatia
Thank you 🙏; pls refer to the playlist - Spirituality and Upanishads
I have feeling that you are just warming up… looking forward for next one.
Yes, you are correct. Lots to cover as we go along :)
can you alao mention episode no on the uploaded video ?
We have mentioned that on the thumbnail. However we will to put this in the video as well. Thanks for your feeback
Nice
I am lucky I met you🌷
So nice of you, thank you :)
you can take to Sahaja Yoga meditation to experience what is being descibed by this gentleman
Sadhguru already made it very clear and he has a practise that can be picked up by everybody ,i.e.,Isha Kriya
Can we say that a higher intellect in us is witnessing our thoughts, emotions and feelings?
Then who is aware of that higher intellect 🙂. If we know about that higher intellect, then who is observing it.
Yes sir...I get it.Kindly go on with your videos.They are very simple, straightforward and relevant.Definitely making sense to me.Thankyou
@@tvame1183 perfect.
When we realise that we are not the body and the mind that we identify with...then won't life itself lose its meaning? Why work,why have children,why have ambition,why to take care of health,why love or have affection to anyone....if afterall our own identity is a myth? What is the motivation to go forward then?
Why have any ethics or morality when ultimately it's all a dream?
Nice we should thing ❤
I witnessed all the 3 videos. Let me confirm my self what I have understood so far. I am a spiritual being witnessing the human experience. The human experience is like short drama being played everday with various roles involving some happiness and unhappiness moments and getting stored these experiences in the human memory. In the process, all my happiness or worries are coming in instalment making me feel unstable as human being. But my question is If I consider myself as spiritual being then i will not be get affected by happy or unhappy situation. Then what is the life of a spiritual being. To live like a stone without any emotions?
That is how sadhus and sages live.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and going through the videos. The emotions are very natural and we will experience them irrespective; the idea is not to suppress the emotions but live them consciously and transcend them by owing up to our true nature; By seeing our emotions separate from ourselves, helps us embrace them and do what is necessary rather than being pulled down by them. In the next video this will become much more clear.
Spirit or the being?
Electricity itself or just its manifestation as light?
Bulb functioning thru electricity experiences heat, cold etc but does not assign it a character certificate. 😂
@@tvame1183 "By seeing our emotions separate from ourselves, helps us embrace them and do what is necessary rather than being pulled down by them. In the next video this will become much more clear."
If you see them as separate from you, it will create conflict. You will run away or you will fight it. You are the emotions. It is you, your thoughts, memories and images created in your field of consciousness. They are not separate from you.
Why the speaker did plagiarism?
quote by Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, one of the greatest and favorite mystics of the 20th century. In one of his letters, he wrote:
“We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are spiritual beings having a human experience.“
The revelation that we are the spiritual self with a human experience has been expounded in our Upanishads in various ways especially though Mahavakyas. And yes, thank you for bring this to our notice that the exact words are spoken by Pierre Teilhard and we have put this in our description. Thx!
"We are not human beings"......what a revelation indeed! This will uproot the theory of evolution. I wonder what others think about such revelation.
Thank you ; The evolution is happens of body and that’s an established fact. However the very consciousness which is my fundamental nature - is that a product of evolution or the evolution happens within the consciousness - needs to be thought 😊
@@tvame1183 In the last 300K years, human life conditions have changed dramatically from generation to generation. This puts a lot of pressure on the physiological system to adapt and modify itself constantly. The human brain has evolved. The brain size and complexity must have also increased. So, the level of consciousness must have also evolved. Changes in DNA through various means (mutations, epigenetics etc) are passed on from generation to generation. What follows from this argument is that the brain and consciousness have evolved. Primitive animals (with smaller brains) have not evolved much because they live in similar conditions for millions of years; they have primitive consciousness. No brain, no consciousness.
Thank you for the detailed explanation:) We are taking about the hard problem of consciousness that does the neural activity of the brain leads to consciousness? It remains inconclusive as of now where it’s difficult to segregate correlation and causation. So yes, multiple points of views does exist here.
This one who refers to himself as 'we' is the one he is asking about i.e. he' asking about the one he is able to feel, perceive etc. This should be enough to indicate that the questioner and the one being perceived by him are same.
However, one who is making question and perceiving happen is the same as 'electricity/enabler' behind the bulb that makes light happen. Electricity and light are different. Isnt it?
@@tvame1183 The hard problem of consciousness....hmm interesting. Just because scientists don't fully understand how the brain functions now does not mean that there is something that exists independently. This independent existence is even more crazy to explain. Anesthesia....no consciousness. such drugs work on nerve cells. No brain cells, no consciousness. Exact mechanism is not known YET I agree but without brain cells, you and I cannot have the conscious experience we have every day. Cause and effect....100 years ago people used to think thunder was caused by Gods when they were angry.
Loved the video.. but Sir is this knowledge safe to tell everyone? Or is it best to tell the one seeking for answers. I’ve also heard - its every humans birth right to know this 😁
Thank you ☺️; this knowledge should be made available to everyone and how many will be able to appreciate it will depend on the preparedness. No doubt this has been called as ‘ Secret Knowledge’ because of its abstract nature:)
2:37 it's not shad samadhi, but shad sampathi
Yes, thank you.
If i am not body and mind, then who is doer? If we are doer then we are mind
The feeling of doership is on account of the I - thought, which is also called as Ahamkara.
@tvame1183 yeah, right
Observer is you
if we are not the body and mind, then where are the thoughts and feelings coming from if we are not the one making them?
Thoughts and feelings are the constituents of mind and it has its own momentum due to the Vasanas.
1. Please enquire within yourself - "where can thoughts and feelings come from?". Since we know that they come and go, they can only rise and recede in a principle that survives thoughts and feelings and witnesses their appearance and disappearance. The only principle that survives thoughts and feelings is the consciousness which is eternally present.
2. The "we (or I)" that you are referring to as the maker of the thoughts and feelings, itself, is nothing more than a notion/thought - "me-notion". One thought cannot/does not give rise to another thought. Therefore the "me" is not the creator of thought and feelings. All thoughts, all feelings, all sensory percepts rise and recede in Consciousness alone. Even the me-notion rises and recedes in consciousness. It is equally important to note that the "substance" or the "stuff" of thoughts, feelings and percepts, is nothing but consciousness.
3. Have you recognized as a FACT, that you are not the body and mind?
4. The challenge is to see the above as a FACT and not merely an intellectual web of fancy or a belief. This requires a careful PERSONAL study under the guidance of someone who knows these matters. 5. Best of luck to you.
@@tvame1183 I respectfully disagree with you Sir. Having determined that there is no such thing as "mind" independent of thoughts and feelings, how can we say that the "mind" has its momentum. Furthermore, granting a provisional concession to the presence of Vasana, do the vasanas reside in the mind or outside the mind?
I would submit to you that the so called vasana is just another thought; it is a mere concept given to satisfy the cravings of an intellect that tries to find cause for the phenomena of a state of duality (apparent one at that). Vasanas etc. belong to "speculative" categories and simply cannot be proved as Facts.
All thoughts, feelings, percepts rise in consciousness and are nothing but consciousness alone. This is verifiable in human experience.
@@ravindramurthy3486your mind creates that consciousness...
@@sridharreddy8011 If your mind creates consciousness, what proof can you furnish to support your statement?
1. By your proposed model, mind is the cause and consciousness is the effect. This requires a basis in time (in accordance with the theory of causation). Are you aware of time before your mind and consciousness appear?
2. In order to prove your proposition as a fact, would you agree with me that there must be another principle that witnessed the sequence of : (1) presence of mind before consciousness (2) see the "activity of mind" that gives rise to consciousness and (3) be able to see consciousness as a resultant product? In the absence of such a proof, your statement will remain your opinion and cannot be accepted as a Fact
"I" should have been defined first. What is the meaning of "the observer is the observed?" I would appreciate some comment on this.
Sure - The reference of ‘I’ itself is at multiple levels- body & mind, ahankara (self reference) or the observer. This video is mostly referring to moving the reference of self from Body & Mind to the observer.
If mind overacting¬ allow to pause a second, how can i be an observer?so mind made a trap. If i could be an observer&be in present moment, i could be relaxed,happy, being in bliss. But something not allow, it could be negetivity, evil or something. My goal is bliss, but i have to overcome thoughts.
Yes, Mind by nature is very restless. And it takes years of practice to work through it. There are practices to enable this. And it starts with awareness.
@@missimplytruthful You say: "If mind overacting & not allow to pause a second, how can i be an observer? So mind made a trap."
Please answer the following questions: 1. Who is "I" in this question? 2. What is causing the mind to overreact? 3. If you pause the mind for a second, who is the observer who becomes relaxed, happy being in bliss? 4. What is evil and 5. What is a thought and how do you overcome a thought? Thank you!
These are very profound questions and I’m happy to discuss these. Hopefully each one of them will be covered in the forthcoming videos or you can also drop in your details in the website tvame.me and we will reply to you.
Some times I observed actions of God also ( how things happen differently, despite actually to be, by default... big deal)
So I am not God
Sir: I agree with you. But I am going to play devil's advocate to make sure that the viewers of this video do not simply accept it intellectually; I will ask you regarding the witness that you reference starting 11:03 into the video. 1. When you say - You can separate yourself from the mind - who/what is that "you" that can separate from the mind? can that "you" that is "capable of creating the distance between the you and the thought", can exist independent of mind (giving provisional concession to the existence of distance between the you and the thought) or can the mind exist independent of that "you"? If so, how do we see it as a FACT OF LIFE and not a mere "intellectual abstract" which the mind is perfectly capable of "spinning"? I hope that you provide an answer to this question either here or in your next video. Thanks.
He can't answer because it's all a word play...nonsense without any rationale ..we are our thoughts ,likes ,dislikes etc which we experience through our mind...you are your mind..period..but as buddhism says our ahankara is not permanent...the person that you were ,both physically and mentally, a 10 years ago is different from the person now...the ahamkara or the I is non permanent...
@@sridharreddy8011 What does ahamkara mean?
Thank you for your detailed question and i understand where you are coming from , especially the 'I' which call itself the observer. Yes, there is a 'I' thought or the ahamkara which runs through other thoughts and that can certainly be mistaken as an observer. Infact , the I thought also comes and goes, so it can be observed too. There is still a 'presence' in absence of I thought. We will be covering these concepts as we go along.
@@tvame1183 Thank you.
Very basic explanation