The Most Powerful Watch Brands All Use the Same Movement.

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  • @BrittPearceWatches
    @BrittPearceWatches Рік тому +8

    8:03 JLC was also one of the first brands to bring all manufacturing under one roof! 🙈

  • @BrittPearceWatches
    @BrittPearceWatches Рік тому +20

    I’m surprised that christian is surprised by the 920! 🙈 the most iconic movement of all time! ✨

    • @naughtynightlifeasia857
      @naughtynightlifeasia857 Рік тому

      How can you not know about the 920!!!

    • @donkykon2094
      @donkykon2094 Рік тому +1

      How’s ossin, big teeth?

    • @Unknown-fl7dj
      @Unknown-fl7dj Рік тому

      Did you apologize and give that poor guy his watch back yet?

    • @LaurentiusTriarius
      @LaurentiusTriarius Рік тому

      I'd put the 7750 and the El Primero up there for contenders, not because I don't own any 920. Nah I wouldn't do such a thing...😂

    • @L.A.C_Santos
      @L.A.C_Santos Рік тому

      @@Unknown-fl7dj what are you talking about????

  • @bozman52
    @bozman52 Рік тому +17

    Regarding space watches, you guys left off a BIG one. In 1962, NASA astronaut Scott Carpenter wore a Breitling Navitimer when he circled the Earth three times aboard the Aurora 7 spacecraft. The legend is that Scott contacted Breitling ahead of the mission and requested they make him a 24-hour dial version of the Navi, which didn't exist at the time (and they did so).

  • @billtodd7693
    @billtodd7693 Рік тому +3

    Great episode!! I can now look at my vintage Rolex Thunderbird Turn-O-Graph with new respect! Thank you both!

  • @David-nx2vm
    @David-nx2vm Рік тому +20

    Guys wearing/using their own gear regardless of what you’re issued is nothing new frankly. I’m retired military, and everyone I knew used their own kit if it worked better, and they could get away with it. We could get Hamilton watches through supply if they had NSNs, but most guys just wore G-shocks. Same with custom grips, rigs, what have you. Astronauts up to the space shuttle era were all active or former military pilots, so it doesn’t surprise me a bit that they had their own watches in their kit bags with the speedy strapped on their sleeves.

    • @cousinwil5808
      @cousinwil5808 Рік тому +3

      In the case of NASA, these guys didn’t get their Omega until they were about to go up for the first time. So, for instance with the Pogue, they had been training doing the job with a different watch with a different layout. So when you go to time your burns do you use this new watch or the one you did all your training with? Easy choice.

    • @loopbloke
      @loopbloke Рік тому

      ]p

    • @bambammartin1556
      @bambammartin1556 Рік тому

      That’s really interesting

    • @oysterman962
      @oysterman962 Рік тому +2

      So true. Most astronauts at the beginning of the jet age were aces who served in Korea. They were all wearing privately purchased Rolex GMTs. Also an interesting watch worn by cold war spy plane pilots was the Bulova Accutron Astronaut. This watch was also worn by the test pilots of the first X-planes that broke the sound barrier. Bulova also manufactured the instrument gauges for the space craft, as they were an American company back then.

  • @SGS477
    @SGS477 Рік тому +1

    Appreciate the thoroughness in the beginning.❤️🤝

  • @BrittPearceWatches
    @BrittPearceWatches Рік тому +3

    6:00 ad from both brands, recently, I think of Fears X Christopher Ward Alliance 01! Marketed just like you are saying! Such a cool collab.

  • @charlierauh8011
    @charlierauh8011 Рік тому +4

    JLC is truly the greatest of them all IMO.

  • @Bourne1984
    @Bourne1984 Рік тому +1

    I’m wearing a JLC MUT 34mm with the cal 849 which was used by I believe VC and IWC

  • @rahulxsood
    @rahulxsood Рік тому +5

    I love JLC. I have an old Amvox3 which I bought brand new. It's an incredible watch, with an amazing Sapphire dome. People don't give them enough credit, I appreciate this video :)

  • @Phil99330
    @Phil99330 Рік тому +2

    Richard Mille for example doesn’t do shit in-house apart of R&D, some ultra unique pieces maybe…

  • @Peter-tc3ep
    @Peter-tc3ep Рік тому +1

    Surprised you didn’t know about the 920. Omega Marine is a crazy hard watch to find in nice condition.

  • @GeorgeFrideric71
    @GeorgeFrideric71 Рік тому +1

    I have watch. It say Invicta. Is good make? Lot of Expensive?

  • @Sovnarkom
    @Sovnarkom Рік тому

    I’m guessing that the forces are reduced in microgravity. The watch (hammer) and nail will both weigh less in space.

  • @notlemcram
    @notlemcram Рік тому +9

    The smoke and mirrors of horology! Yeah we polished the same movement you find in a $600 Hamilton or Tissot, then engraved our logo on the rotor and called it a caliber 5, but with our name it cost 3k… that’s kinda how I interpreted this episode!

  • @traviswatts6661
    @traviswatts6661 Рік тому

    The Glycine Airman also made it to space worn by Charles Conrad on the Gemini 5 space flight.

  • @CydeWeys
    @CydeWeys Рік тому +2

    Feels like JLC is really messing up with their product strategy. They're missing huge opportunities to cash in on their legacy and release vintage-inspired watches. Look at Omega's success with the calibre 321 Speedmaster. Now imagine if JLC released a new dress watch, powered by the calibre 920, marketed as being the workhorse that powered watches from the entire Holy Trinity. They could do it in steel, make it 6mm thick, price it under $10k, and it would SELL. Basically like the Master Ultra Thin, but even thinner.

  • @LINVINGSTEEL
    @LINVINGSTEEL Рік тому +1

    I’d like to see a spring drive movement in a Rolex oyster

  • @Rolex-eu5vp
    @Rolex-eu5vp Рік тому +6

    Lange really changed the game with their in-house movement manufacturing. The Datograph showed up the likes of Patek, Vacheron, and AP with their Lemania bases in a pretty big way

  • @bambammartin1556
    @bambammartin1556 Рік тому

    This sort of thing happens often in the car industry. The 10 speed automatic transmission in chevys is actually ford’s 10 speed they developed that is changed a little for gm. In turn, gm licensed magnaride suspension to ford

  • @OkieSilverDude
    @OkieSilverDude Рік тому +2

    such a lovely couple

  • @cos-9113
    @cos-9113 Рік тому +1

    Rolex references their “use” on the first ascent of Mt Everest, when there is no evidence they went to the summit and probably were not there since we know Smiths was the watch on the wrist at the summit. Yet Rolex doesn’t highlight a number of early astronauts used Rolex GMTs (very popular model with the military personnel as their own watches, especially pilots) before Omega was picked by NASA. I wonder if they feel it would just highlight they lost to Omega as the official watch for NASA space flight.

  • @stevelangsdorf7307
    @stevelangsdorf7307 Рік тому

    Michael reminds me of Steve McQueen, Christian Jerry Lewis. Oh well Happy Valentines day.

  • @victorcordero6682
    @victorcordero6682 Рік тому

    Lovely one guys

  • @beyoncehadoneofthebest
    @beyoncehadoneofthebest Рік тому

    Sinn “collabs” for Bell and Ross and Porsche/audi were labeled “by sinn” on the dials and/or case backs

  • @danchapman5944
    @danchapman5944 Рік тому

    JLC are the absolute nuts !

  • @karimoyoun
    @karimoyoun Рік тому +1

    @Theoandharris Would love to have ur thoughts on the new AP releases, especially the Code 11.59 in steel and ceramic

  • @audemarspiguet4237
    @audemarspiguet4237 Рік тому +1

    HOW DARE YOU INSULT THE 5270😡 It is the best and most advanced perpetual calendar chronograph ever made

  • @MrChippinator
    @MrChippinator Рік тому +1

    "In house" movements are kind of a myth. Anyone can really tell you that. There is nothing wrong with using an outside movement. A lot of it is marketing and snobbery.

  • @17.06.Copper
    @17.06.Copper Рік тому +5

    Apparently, the only brands that are completely vertically integrated are Rolex and Seiko. SEIKO even makes their own proprietary watch oils. Every other brand utilizes suppliers for various parts. Tis the way it has always been. Problem is, brands sell consumers that everything is "In house" lol.

    • @alectang1614
      @alectang1614 Рік тому +4

      Sort of true. But Rolex are vertically integrated because they just bought all their suppliers. Only the dials are made by another company apparently (source: watchfinder).
      Seiko really are the only one.
      In-house is like expecting Mercedes to make absolutely everything, including the tyres, the oils, the brake discs/pads, the leather, the cylinder heads, axle bearings, transmission, stereo/speakers... Which is just ludicrous.

    • @slateization
      @slateization Рік тому

      Ludicrous, but exactly what they do. No idea why they make so many of their own parts. But that’s a decision they made

  • @fransker13
    @fransker13 Рік тому

    Breitling seems to be quite open about their movement on their website

  • @jamessymington2466
    @jamessymington2466 Рік тому

    Ron Evans was the command module pilot so technically he never went on the moon but ‘just’ around it. He did do an amazing spacewalk though.

  • @brownmcpherson5724
    @brownmcpherson5724 Рік тому +2

    My Patek Nautilus 3700 and my Vacheron Overseas both used an JLC base movement. Both great watches.

  • @nietzschegustav1397
    @nietzschegustav1397 Рік тому

    The first Sinn in Space was a black coated Sinn 140 on the D1 mission worn By R. Furrer in 1985

    • @nietzschegustav1397
      @nietzschegustav1397 Рік тому

      @@dsant2811 yes they show the current version … relax 🙌🏼

  • @daneconnelly
    @daneconnelly Рік тому

    Im pretty sure that Michael Strahan wore a Rolex GMT Mater II on his blue origin space flight. There has also been a Movado Datachron worn in space on the ankle of an astronaut.

  • @oysterman962
    @oysterman962 Рік тому

    It's hugely ironic but not surprising that astronaut James Lovell of Apollo 13, the Omega poster boy actually owned and wore a Rolex GMT purchased with his own money. Rolex doesn't need to advertise the fact because their reputation stands on it's own. Jake's Rolex World has great articles to reference this.

  • @MaartenAnna
    @MaartenAnna Рік тому +2

    That’s sooo cool about these JLC movements. (You think you could buy them to mod your own style watches 😉)
    Anyway, It’s like F1, where different engine manufacturers either use manufacturers engines, e.g. Haas uses Ferrari engines, or “badge” other engines, e.g. Alfa Romeo Sauber also uses Ferrari engines, but they are Alfa. Or even Red Bull uses Honda engines, but they are Red Bull power train (though this season Honda again).

    • @EthanRom
      @EthanRom Рік тому +1

      Nice analogy also nice seeing another F1 fan here.

  • @jeffdj1975
    @jeffdj1975 Рік тому

    You guys are fucking hilarious!!! T&H for life!

  • @bx_h23
    @bx_h23 Рік тому +1

    What brand is that jacket Michael is wearing?👀

    • @RHH911
      @RHH911 Рік тому

      I'd like to know as well 🧐

    • @leemurovec24
      @leemurovec24 Рік тому +1

      it's from huckberry

    • @RHH911
      @RHH911 Рік тому +1

      Thanks just found it! It’s the Proof trail fleece

    • @omar10213245
      @omar10213245 Рік тому

      Fag Heuer

  • @FreshYoungDude
    @FreshYoungDude Рік тому

    Onion UA-cam was peak internet.

  • @fao8147
    @fao8147 Рік тому

    Gents, you forgot Bulova, the only other watch to actually be on the moon.

  • @invexx
    @invexx Рік тому

    Great show as always. However, you should know that nobody was on the Moon and in a thousand years nobody will land on the Moon. (Moon is not a rock.)

  • @ericwolak2712
    @ericwolak2712 Рік тому

    Also, a Movado chronograph

  • @jakthrpr
    @jakthrpr Рік тому

    you forgot about Breitling cosmonaut come on how could you forget this Iconic watch

  • @BobbyDazzler888
    @BobbyDazzler888 Рік тому +1

    AP dont even make their own hairsprings

  • @vintageswiss9096
    @vintageswiss9096 Рік тому

    There's never been a single picture of the Rolex GMT being worn in space. The story was invented after the Bulova came to light.
    Supposedly it was taken in a personal bag, but was never inventoried or seen in a photo.
    There's a whole lot of "Trust me bro..." behind that Rolex story...

  • @mikej5959
    @mikej5959 Рік тому

    Alan Shepard is probably the most famous of the Rolex

  • @MrParadigm1981
    @MrParadigm1981 Рік тому

    First auto Chronograph was a Huer and not Seiko.

  • @Mall_Watch
    @Mall_Watch Рік тому +1

    VC still uses the 920 as the base for many complicated watches such as the overseas perpetual and the super rare vc overseas ultrathin used it.

  • @maxfaberg128
    @maxfaberg128 Рік тому

    I wanne see the new Tank Francaise on a rubber strap.

  • @Valera_Scotland
    @Valera_Scotland Рік тому +1

    You guys don't stop! I need some of that coffee you're having

    • @omar10213245
      @omar10213245 Рік тому +2

      Its the kind coffee that is white in color....in powder form....and you drink it through your nose

  • @andrewhennessy9789
    @andrewhennessy9789 Рік тому

    Casio G-Shock 5600D & E are NASA certified for space flight. Get an authentic space watch for $60.

  • @r3771-n2r
    @r3771-n2r Рік тому +1

    You forgot Bulova. August 2, 1971, Bulova finally earned the title of "Moon Watch" when David R. Scott wore the Bulova Chronograph ref. 88510/01 on the lunar surface.Aug

  • @rickjason215
    @rickjason215 Рік тому +1

    The Black Bay Chronograph uses the Breitling B01 movement. Great movement.

  • @spencerpatterson8815
    @spencerpatterson8815 Рік тому

    i love a yellow school bus 🚌

  • @carlmullender2941
    @carlmullender2941 Рік тому

    FEARS + Christopher Ward ?

  • @LSBUFU
    @LSBUFU Рік тому

    Cold open 🤣

  • @Rivv96
    @Rivv96 Рік тому

    JLC will never make a 920 based watch, because the rights and patents for this movement were signed off to Vacheron when JLC was bought out by Richemont.

    • @thadpasquale
      @thadpasquale Рік тому

      I think it's AP...they currently manufacture this and sell it to VC.

  • @jamiedamaral4011
    @jamiedamaral4011 Рік тому +1

    Please talk about White Lotus! Also, maybe an episode on watches in cinema?

  • @joaovilarinho1362
    @joaovilarinho1362 Рік тому +1

    Come one guys. What about the Bulova Moonwatch????

  • @emergentthreats
    @emergentthreats Рік тому +2

    Also, Bulova also had a watch that went to the moon.

  • @larifari_das
    @larifari_das Рік тому

    Omitting the first watch that went to space... disappointing.

  • @ryanmorales3851
    @ryanmorales3851 Рік тому +2

    Not as interesting as the space watches you mentioned but a ton of astronauts wore G-shocks and a few F91w on shuttle missions in the 90s

    • @ryanmorales3851
      @ryanmorales3851 Рік тому

      @TheoandHarris11 gotta say i love your show and I love the adds you guys produce. Especially the Acutron and Bulova spots I've seen on your channel. Top notch 👌. I don't usually comment but space and military watches are kinda my thing so I had to comment on this video. I remember watching videos of the lab experiments preformed on the space shuttle when I was a kid in school and asking my parents for the same watch as the astronauts in the video. They got me a Timex Ironman that I loved but I was so happy to eventually buy myself a GShock 5600 like in the videos I remember as a kid and now I'm a watch nerd because of it.

  • @alectang1614
    @alectang1614 Рік тому

    JLC have become a shadow of their former selves unfortunately and this is coming from a die hard JLC fan. When was the last time the "watchmaker's watchmaker" even released a new calibre or an entire new model family? The Duometre from the mid-2000s or the pusher-less Chrono Amvox 2 from early 2010s? Since then - nothing. Come on Richemont, don't screw up one of the most iconic and innovative brands in the watch industry.

  • @lcater9555
    @lcater9555 Рік тому

    Yo

  • @donmugambi5442
    @donmugambi5442 Рік тому

    👌🏽👍🏾

  • @WestCoastAce27
    @WestCoastAce27 Рік тому

    Not your best by far. This is a stretch. By this logic Apple’s iPhone should have to divulge that the most important component - the display - comes from Samsung.
    And only watch geeks care.

  • @LaurentiusTriarius
    @LaurentiusTriarius Рік тому

    I appreciate the stories but I certainly won't buy X watch brand because one of their watches has gone to space or very deep underwater.
    Like who cares. No really who cares?
    Apparently I do.
    Geez

  • @originalserpent1834
    @originalserpent1834 Рік тому +2

    AP IS DEAD THEY MAKE ONE WATCH. It's boring.

    • @omar10213245
      @omar10213245 Рік тому

      AP is dead and floating face down in a backyard pool

  • @konartis747
    @konartis747 Рік тому

    First!

  • @seaweed719
    @seaweed719 Рік тому +1

    Your channel would’ve been so much more popular if you two don’t BS so much, and if you can shorten each video to 10-15 mins long.

  • @InsanelyGhostly
    @InsanelyGhostly Рік тому +1

    Rolex is a great starter watch for people who are coming up and are trying to impress poor people

    • @omar10213245
      @omar10213245 Рік тому

      I love impressing poor people, it's what I do best * flashes submariner in front of urban maverick *