A QUICK MPC 60 REVIEW. WAS IT WORTH IT?
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- Опубліковано 26 лис 2023
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I am going to drop a secret for you all. Old guitar delays sample at 12 bit and have longer sample times than these old samplers. Yes, no filter or converters but I tell you this so perhaps you choose a later model MPC combined with one of these pedals for that old flavor. My favorite is the Digitech PDS Echo Plus, which has 8 seconds of 12 bit sampling. The lower models are the PDS 4000 (4 seconds); PDS 2000 (2 seconds); and PDS 1000 (1 second). All versions come in rack form as well and the racks are called “Time Machine 8000, 4000, 2000, 1000.” These can all be had for hundreds of dollars, especially the rack units, which are rarer but usually a closet find and sell for $100-$200. Put one of these pedals or racks in the fx loop of a Roland MC-707 or makeshift fx loop on an MPC Live 2, and you will be money. Old school all day.
1:48 I didn't realize the MPC60 was WAY bigger than the 3000 too.
The beat playing in the intro has the craziest snare
Machine used by the Godfather of Boom Bap......Premo
Not for sampling, only programming/triggering an S950. Early DJ Shadow was made with a 60II tho.
I tell you what, it will definitely push your creativity!
If your sampling from a 33 record, speed it up to 45 then slow the sample down. It helps a little with sample time. But most people use the Akai S 950 with the MPC 60. I have the MPC 60II.
Thanks for the info. My issue is that I was leaving too much room on the end of my samples being lazy. I cut them down and no longer have memory problems. I also upgraded the memory. I can't get into the rack gear. I'm running out of room in my office as it is.
I've got a pair of Mpc 60's and an Mpc X. I love the 60 it forces you to make choices. Get a mixer and some guitar pedals. Priceless
Which do you use the most? I happen to use the X more now. But the 3000 is a close second.
Lately my X gets all the love. Ive got my 60 in my bedroom for late nite beats. With the pair of 60's I do bigger beats like DJ Shadow Terminator X style. The sound alone is worth it.
Love my 60! Run my drum programs through it and my samples through a s5000. Perfect combo!
Ayo...stick with it. I just copped the 60 MKII and I'm still getting used to it. Having the 3000 kinda helps me to understand it better. Once you do the upgrades, the experience will get better. The biggest adjustment for me was navigating the buttons for the menu. I had to cop a Zulu SCSI because I didn't want to erase any of my old floppies.
The new OS almost bricked my 60. I waiting on 3.10 from Roger Linn's site. I ordered the Scsi interface and I'm taking the Zulu Scsi from my 2000xl. I never use that anyhow. I might have some questions for you once all the new stuff is installed.
@@ppic7162 Wow....really? That sucks. Was gonna go with the internal SD drive, but decided to keep it factory and kept the floppy. The Zulu SCSI has been treating me right so far. Anything I can help you with, just lemme know.
I bought one after I had to sell my SP1200. After the SP, the sound was a bit too vanilla for me (punchy but not crunchy, to my ears)...but for function, it can't be beat. Now I miss it! Absolute BEAST. Had to sell it a bit down the line too... Boo hoo.
YES, its so worth it 👌 😍
Subscribed fam, been subscribed
Conhrats! Thats definitely the best looking mpc imo. knocks hard too
I'm biased, but I think the MPC 3000 looks better. I think it should have been the final evolution of MPC. Its the Super Saiyan 4, or Ultra Instinct of MPCs. And the MPC X SE is not bad looking either.
Very dope sampler
love the look of the 60 - I never know if it should make a beat or ring up my shopping!! But either way it always makes that boom bap-bounce for me. mm mm mm.
You can hear the difference 🔥
Congrat bro… make bangers
Thanks!
Hey man, what you're doing is definitely DOPE! Definitely inspiring to make me wanna do more content...💪🏾
Thanks! You definitely should. I watch everyone's videos all the time. I like the "less produced" videos the best. I originally learned to edit video footage in Final Cut Pro for my wife, I just stuck with it. I try to learn something new each video.
@ppic7162 Nice brother, Nice!👌🏾 I have a few pieces of gear myself. A 60II, 3000, X and SP-1200 just to name a few. Check out the couple of videos I got up. If you have any questions about the gear don't hesitate to ask. Or need work, look up Bruce Forat in LA. Tell him that MPIRE sent you, he can fix "ANYTHING"...
PEACE , M.✌🏾
@@thadirtyabbott33 I love this. Who says the UA-cam community is toxic. I get a few negative comments, but it's mostly all love in here. Thanks man. I'll look up Bruce Forat if I have any issues.
I know how U feel gotta treat yuh self brotha 🙏🏾💯🎹🔈🔈🎶
Great story 💯
you worked on microprocessors? sick stuff
When I started making Hiphop in DAWs it was the vintage MPC sound I was trying to copy, simple chops crunchy beats, I did a pretty good job using Reason. Not sure if I'll ever actually get a really old MPC as costly to maintain as You show.
Not as much you would think, especially with the MPC's. A lot of what you need can be found on MPC Stuff and there are lots of forums and UA-cam videos to help you DIY.
@@mlaws11291 I'd get one to run samples though for textures and colour the sound a bit but id still a DAW.
@@defcreator187 What do You mean sound boring? I use all the same sounds as someone who has a MPC. Especially when I do sample bassed Boombap.
I thought 9th wonder settled the DAW vs Groovebox/Beatmachine argument 15 years ago. You can make dope music on anything right? Don't waste your money buying these older machines, especially if what you are doing works for you.
@@ppic7162 9th Wonder knows his stuff however I dont remember ever seeing a video on Daws vs MPC from him, plus 15 years is a long time digital sound has come along way. 15 years ago I was 2 years into using Reason and I'd say that music I made back then was the most MPC sounding stuff I have done mostly due to limitations, and using basic sample chopping.
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For 12bit Akai I'd prefer an S950 sequenced by an MPC 2000XL
you need to open a sampling room, where people will come and do some sampling contexte and make beats on fly.
as you are pasionate about mpc's, use it in a way to get return on investment from that collection.
Great investment 💯
Thanks!
Yeah I was waiting on this video good find! Did you order the software upgrade 3.10 I believe?
Also you should get the screen update it’s about $250 on MPC Stuff.
Also with saving sounds etc. it’s best to use Double Density disk instead of High Density Disk! That could be why your having issues with the saving process!!
In my opinion getting the SCSI and disk drive is not necessary for just 26 seconds. If you get the software update you’ll be able to choke out sounds or mute groups however you want to call it!
I ordered the 3.15B OS. I installed them and they don't work. I ordered the 3.10 from Roger Linn's sight. He advised the the "B" in 3.15B means Beta. I'm a programmer, you would think I would know that right. I"m waiting on them to install the new OS. I already ordered the SCSI interface but I think it is a waste of money, but I"m in too deep now.
@@ppic7162 okay that's cool Roger Linn has a sight with the parts! If mpc stuff accepts returns, return that scsi and get the screen upgrade? There probably around the same price! When you get everything going let me know if you have this issue, my 60 has a few millisecond delay when you sample a sound; its not a deal breaker but very annoying when you try to sample on the first beat but there's that delay! So when I sample I have to sample early to get all my sample! Hopefully that's not too confusing lol.
Those drums were slapping; I can't wait for part 2. Hopefully, you will add a couple of clips of the installation process. Are you going to venture into the SP 1200, AKAI S950, and AKAI S3000 areas?
or emax, eps-m, mirage areas .... they are my fav 3. cant wait for part 2 as well, love seeing new 60 videos.
Thanks! There is a delay on Part 2. The 3.15B Vimana Eproms that I bought won't boot my MPC 60. I ordered the 3.10 directly from Roger Linn's site. He answers all the support emails himself. I asked him some questions about remaking the 60, or the 3000 like Rossum Sp1200 and he replied that he is not interested in the old stuff but he loves the Rossum Sp1200. I'm staying away from the rack mount stuff. I'm thinking about the Isla 2400 or the Rossum.
What an awesome machine! I really want one, but getting one means clearing something out. 😂
Thanks! I'm out of room myself. I'm about to start switching stuff out and move my DJ Equipment since I do really do parties anymore.
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the hair aint bad man, its all good experimenting no matter how old we get.
but yeah.... the mpc60? id ask why, but getting your perspective on these historical pieces gives me a good piece of mind.... and it saves me money since you're being the guinea pig 😂.
i couldnt mess with the older mpc's though, the new ones are just too good. i had the 2000xl and the 500, now i got the live and just ordered the X. its awesome to see they all came from a similar work flow (patterns, programs, tracks, sequences etc), but the workflow is so much faster now. thats why i bit the bullet and ordered a used original X for $1000. those qlinks make the workflow so much faster. thankfully im not with my ex-girl anymore to talk shit about my purchases 😂 "you bought another thing?? smh"
Aww. Thanks! The maintenance on this hair is crazy. I'm going back after this month.
Ha, I'll take those bullets so you won't waste your money. For some reason, I like all of the MPCs except the 2000xl. I bought a 2000 classic and I don't like that either.
Thoughts on the 2500? Need that jjos xl though
I've never used the 2500, but it's the same as the 1000 right? with a few more q links. I'll eventually get it probably, just to complete the collection.
nice purchase, i have had 4 of them..kept selling them and then buying another as there is a special presence about it. I kept the mpc60 mk1 and its in really good nick as well. The worst thing for any new mpc60 owner is getting a reailty check on the bit rate..........mpc60 are 16bit not 12bit. I was gutted when told that and didnt believe it until i researched it. It samples at 12bit but the converters are 16bit....bummer i know
Thanks! Can you advise me on the Poly/voice overlap on the 60? I still can't figure it out. I don't think the stock OS is capable. I think I have to wait for the version 3.15B or 3.10.
@@ppic7162 vimana fixes that... otherwise you have to put the pad on note off and time when you let go. also, the floppy drive is not 1.44mb, it's below 700kb. when you have the ram expansion you might be making two floppy beats.... however one single floppy is more than enough once you get used to tuncating like crazy... taking out un-needed sample length. you might need to cut tiny tiny bits to loop to fill gaps instead of sampling long. that is all part of the sound... it is probably more about the use of workarounds than the bitrate and sample rate.
Damn dude u are very fortunate most only get to grace this machine once in life or not at all like me but u Gucci 4x 😅🙏💯
@@ppic7162 yes you'll have to upgrade it in order for the same notepad cutoff function can be used.
was just thinkn yo G found a Dope Braider and a 60….both hard to find these days
Thanks! aYeah, life seems to be working out for a little while. This hair is too much work though. I'm getting rid of it, but I"m keep the 60 though.
We really dont need daws this is it
Plans on buying mv-8000?
I don't know. I saw the wife looking up some stuff on Neiman Marcus last night. I can't possibly bring another Drum Machine into the house. I have to wait another 6 months. I like the Isa 2400 or the Rossum. They are expensive though.
@@ppic7162 i'm sure she wouldnt notice ;)
CAN ANYONE TELL WHERE TO BUY IT CHEAP
Unfortunately, it's very hard to find these vintage machines cheap nowadays. We are all about 5 to 10 years too late. I remember seeing them really cheap on ebay back then.
😂 Madison and Pulaski west siiiiiide
All day! Although, I've lived in the burbs for the last 15 - 20 years. All my peeps still on the Westside.
Get a floppy drive emulator bro...
Thanks, I'm going for the MCD Drive. I have the Gotek for my MPC 2000. I won't rather have the sd card drive.
Do you think if Sanford and Son came out today it would be cancelled for not being politically correct?lol
Definitely cancelled! And All in the Family. They can't make shows like this anymore in the "PC" era. Did you check out the horrible Good Times cartoon on Netflix? It's not even worth watching.
Holla at Kanamitmpc he’s near Chicago he’s got screens and other stuff for the 60 &3000
I just reached out to him about the screen. Thanks for the info!
Yeah his name is Chris he’s a good dude and knows his stuff…I’ve purchased from him in the past!!
@@knowEgoI'm trying to track down a OG 2000 screen, the screens on eBay have issues when using with 8 outs send me the guys info, I'm in Indy but from Chi!
He on the Gram?