Oh sweety. Unfortunately nobody has the ability to save us from ourselves. The reason it's so important to learn to love ourselves is because of our ability to level incomparable hate on ourselves. Thats why my wish for the world is that we all learn to love ourselves as much as we say we love others.
This burns my ass. Karen was such a pure soul and didn't need this a**hole to tear her down. Karen was an angelic soul who deserved better. I will love her for the rest of my life.
@@lenafan492 This wedding should have never happened. It was a disaster from day one. Karen deserved a much better man in her life. Did you know that he (her beloved husband) cleaned out her accounts and that the day Karen died their divorce was finalized. I kniow that Kareb deserved so much better!!!
@@clarewelter2207 Yes, I know he was an awful person, and the marriage was probably loveless, but Karen could be a very difficult and manipulative person herself. Many anorexics are
@@lenafan492 like I have said he was an awful person and in fairness to the both of them the marriage should not have taken place. RIP KAREN. Thank you for all of your beautiful songs that will live on forever
Ned, thanks very much for posting this video. It was a beautiful wedding, but would have been more enjoyable to watch if I did not already "know the ending". Karen deserved so much more than Burris. She was such a beautiful soul.
On their Wikipedia bio page, it says that Karen wanted to have children and apparently thought this guy did to. However, he had had a vasectomy and concealed that from her. When she found out, she was (rightfully) devastated from his deception and filed for divorce. She died before she had the change to sign them. He buried her with his wedding ring. I'm glad to know he did not receive anything from her will. Sounds like a total scoundrel. Never have trusted real estate developers!
He drained her savings and was just one more contributor to the heartbroken state of her mental health due to the fact that, from what I gather, no one...not no one ever truly gave a damn about going out of their way to save her from the life constructed around her and taken away from her...such a very dangerous situation.
If you read the book 'Little Girl Blue' you will, perhaps as I do view this video as the story of Karen's life. First mommy dearest says when Karen asked if she thought she should marry this man, her response was that Karen was old enough to decide for herself. Fast forward, Karen finds out that this man is a liar and desperately wants to call off the wedding and all of a sudden mommy dearest is back on her broom telling Karen that the invitations were out, people were coming from all over, and a small fortune had been spent (hmmm...wonder whose money?) and that Karen ***would*** go down that aisle, that she 'had made her bed and now had to lie in it'. Agnes Carpenter was a controlling domineering shrew and the book is toned down because little Richie doesn't want his family's image tarnished. We will never know the true story of Karen Carpenter. Thank you for posting this, wish it were better quality but not your fault, and just watching it knowing the back story makes it very very interesting.
+loco madre I read the book a few years ago; I didn't realize the book was toned down since it was not a Carpenter approved bio like others books about Karen. It was a good yet sad read all in all.
+loco madre don't forget the hush money Richard paid Burris to keep his mouth shut plus Richard married his own first cousin. and all the documented strange behavior of Richard during the filming of the TV movie about Karan.
One of the worst things to happen to Karen was to get married to Burris, but also Richard’s and the record company’s negative reaction to her solo album and refusing to release it. Two huge blows to Karen’s psyche.
Richard has seen that Burris keeps his mouth shut and has paid him hush money and legal action. The day Karen died she was to sign divorce papers so they were still legally married.
@@stillayl No it isn't. In a "living-in" arrangement, people still put their best foot forward and lie in the relationship. Besides, Karen was somewhat religious, if not Christian. She had scruples against that kind of thing.
The whole thing is so ghoulish. The bride is undernourished to the point of collapse. She was probably already dying. But about to marry a gold-digger. And the background chorus are singing _"So much of life ahead..."_
Karen may have been a "healthy" weight by doctor's standards when she died, but the weight was put on too fast and her heart wasn't healthy enough to handle it. All the years of abuse her body took from starving herself, taking pills and using ipecac caused the damage that killed her, not ipecac alone. So yes, she was already dying. Her heart and body were starving for the nutrients they so desperately needed.
Excess control and excess freedom can be destruction :( but all she wanted was to live, love and be loved being herself. They never let her grow nor did she know to speak up for herself. Her story just reminds me why I want to be a counselor in the first place :(. Can I travel back and tell her shes beautiful and everything will be ok and that she is loved..sadly no but I hope she knows from where she is many do :(
The hand of fate was with Karen at this point. She was marrying a man she knew could not get her pregnant, and even if he could she might not have been able to carry a baby to full term as malnourished as she was.
i was at her funeral...she was my favorite female singer...i just happened to be in california at the time of her death..so ironic...i took a bus and waited outside in the long lineup to get in...btw...She found out that he did not want kids and had a vasectomy before they met...she was not happy because she loved kids and wanted to have some of her own...read her bio on google
Putting aside the details of Tom's character and personal situation for the moment; why couldn't they have adopted? They had enough money to do so. Plus the main point of raising children is being able to bring them up with good character and values enough to bring honor and a sense of accomplishment to the parents' lives-to impart something of yourself to them to make their lives successful and happy. That doesn't require heredity.
@@ThatClassic70sGirl I agree - under normal circumstances. However, in this case, it was probably best that a child was not brought into this tragic situation.
Wow, these comments are so interesting. I never knew the story behind the beautiful voice of Karen Carpenter. No wonder why she struggled with illness that ended her life!!! To think of singing such perfect songs of love, and if it's true that her life and marriage was a pretend to a man who didn't really love her... that's the saddest story. That means every song she sang for us must have reminded her every time she sang, that her life/marriage was a secret living a lie, and that's what ultimately killed her, as it would have killed anyone!!! No wonder why some of those songs are so incredibly sad!!!
Whenever I listen to their songs like Solitaire or I Believe You, I cry. Her voice was so beautiful in these ballads. Yet you can hear her sincerity and pain at the same time. It still haunts me.
Her marriage came within the last few years of her life. Her most famous songs were recorded long before the marriage. The underline melancholy we are hearing in her voice is from her longing to be accepted by her family. I can very much relate to this. It's like I said years ago... the biggest heartbreak of my life wasnt from a lover....but from the ridicule, lack of acceptance and ultimate dissolve of my family. I know exactly what it's like to be controlled by a family of assholes.
HoNeStRaGe me too. I loved my mum dearly but now she's gone, I'm alone. I'm married but sometimes I feel the love as conditional, and people love you for what they can get. ...
I wish her mother would have backed her when she decided not to narry this jerk! Shame on Tom for not appreciating his wife! What a beautiful person Karen was.
@@katemaloney4296 , No. It was just yet another instance of Karen having no say in her life. Started way before the wedding, before she even met this guy. There were a lot of things that ultimately lead to her untimely death, her Mom, her brother and the control they exerted over her, even in marriage.
I recognized Luciano Pavarotti, Casey Kasem, Olivia Newton-John, and maybe Bert Convey in the congregation. I couldn't see others clearly but glad she had her buds there. Such a tragic ending to her story though.
Geeee.. I was a great fan of the Carpenters since the late 60's but I wasn't aware that she really got married... and later on divorced this man... how painful it must have been for Karen.. I still love hearing her songs.... so sad to know she's passed away several years ago.... Karen may your lovely soul rest in peace...
I agree with a lot of the comments. This has a real "creepy" vibe to it. This was her last shot to break free and it was all wrong. Getting her hair styled at 2:08 her face takes on an "angelic" quality. She was such a beautiful woman. You can't pin all the blame on Tom Burris either; did he know he was marrying a women in a "terminal" condition? The damage had been done, her days were numbered.
I think one of the reasons Karen waited so long to marry was because she was told all her life to be afraid and that all men were after was her money, and now this? Her brother Richard and her family wouldn't let her fall in love and be happy with anyone without their interference and without the family's approval, Then they somehow approved of this jerk by the name of Tom Burris. Probably a friend of Herb Albert or Richard or the Family. Karen was more than ready at this point to be a happily married wife and mother and then this Carpenter family approved crumb bum came along and accidentally failed to inform Karen that he just had a vasectomy. Karen was devastated and she deserved so much better than this. I bet the honeymoon was over 2 hours after the wedding. Thank God Karen, that you are now a free spirit with no control freaks running your afterlife.
I love Karen carpenters music its timeless it will go on forever we miss you Karen Carpenter and we miss your brother to space his name escapes my memory but his music is in my heart and in my mind send
According to "Jeopardy!" a decade starts with the year ending in 1... And ends in the year with a 0 at the end. We count from one to ten. hence 1 through "zero".:)
+M Chong----the song is called "More." It was written around 1962 and made popular by Bobby Darin and recorded by many other artists through the years.
Se fue muy joven pero nos dejó su música, y su voz inconfundible, y reconocida alrededor del mundo, siempre la recordaremos, los ángeles se van pronto.
@@monilaninetynine3811 SORRY, ONLY ANIMALS ARE ANGELS, PERIOD.🙏❤🕊 NO MATTER HOW MUCH HUMANS MAY TRY TO BE "GOOD", THEY WILL NEVER, EVER BE ANGELS, PERIOD.
I just think it's so sad that the person that brought so many beautiful love songs to life never really found the person that she could truly love and the one that would truly love her she married this person thinking that he cared for her only to find out at the last minute that he didn't and then to please her family she went through with it you can see in only a year year and a half how her health deteriorated because of this marriage what a despicable human being to lie to her rest in peace we love and miss you
To me, Karen was one of the top three female vocalists that has ever been in my lifetime.I would have liked to see her play the drums. I understand that was her instratment. She was awesome beauty other than not having enough pounds. I don't know the " real" story. Whatever caused her to not like her body weight I thought was the issue. I really hope and pray she knew the Good Lord before she died. What an amazing voice she had!!!!!!!!!
It is sad she never found the love she deserved. In fairness, Richard said some of her rules about guys-like she would only date men who made as much money as she did, so she’d know they didn’t want her just for her money-cut her off from 99% of all potential men, one of who surely might have done so. I’m sure her health issues presented a challenge or strain to the marriage as well. When I hear “Goodbye to Love,” now it breaks my heart, because it sounds like her own personal autobiography. It was a hopeful day, but as with many marriages, it was not to be. But even now, 40 years later, Karen is perhaps the most beloved female vocalist if all time. Wherever she is, I hope the power of our love for her reaches her heart, for her fans still adore her.
We all make bad choices in are life and this was Karen's She should have not married this tool.she needed a true man that would treat her like the queen that she was.
I had no idea she got married on August 31st, that's my parents' anniversary. Although they tied the knot in 1991, not 1980. But that's still a really cool coincidence!
karen Carpenter tu demeures toujours dans mon coeur ta belle voix d'ange ne quitterait jamais mes oreilles tu es ma chanteuse préfèree jusqu'à la fin de mes jours nous sommes nés toi et moi dans la même année 1950 tes chansons m'ont accompagné pendant toute ma jeunesse durant mes études j'aimais ta très belle voie tes belles chansons ont habités mon coeur loin de toi de plusieurs milliers de kilomètres je ne cessait d'écouter tes belles chansons jusqu'à soudainement j'ai appris la mauvaise nouvelle de ton décès j'ai pleuré tous seul loin de toi j'aurais souhaité assister à tes funérailles mais le temps et la distance nous avait séparé mais l'amour envers toi s'est installé dans mon coeur depuis 33ans je ne cesse pas d'écouter tes très belles chansons avec les larmes aux yeux je ne te cache pas que je t'aime fous de toi tu as habité mon coeur je t'aimerais toujours et pour l'éternité je ne t'oublierai jamais alors que tu ne m'a jamais connu que Dieu grand clément te garde dans son paradis reposes en paix tu es aimée sur terre et dans le ciel Adieu love love love.
What a real jerk Agnes Carpenter must have been that when Karen wanted to call off her wedding to Tom Burris because he had deceived her by failing to tell her that he had had a vasectomy and refuse to have it reversed when he knew damn right well that she wanted to have a family, Agnes would not let her cancel the wedding just because so many guests had been invited to the wedding and had flown in from all over the country to attend it! She ridiculously said to karen the old expression that " you've made your bed, now you must sleep in it", forcing Karen to go through with a sham wedding and sham marriage! No wonder the members of the Carpenters' band referred to Agnes as "the dragon lady" !
@EnvironmentTruthWarriior Taylor Karen wanted to call the weeding off because she found out he had a vasectomy only days before the wedding and she wanted children but her mother made her go through with it. He was rude to her, called her a bag of bones and took a lot of her money, yeah she was real happy you fool.
I think that she was the best and will be for ever. One of a kind, never to be anyone like her. That man was a very bad person. He will have to answer to God for what he did to Karen. She will live for ever in her voice and in us. But Him? No body knows that he exist if it not because Karen Carpenter married him. What a wasted of human kind. Thank so much for this video.
I'm adopted and I'm 17 years old. And my birth moms name was Karen Lee Carpenter. I love this singer because of her voice we look similar too though I wish this lady was still around so I could ask her if they are related in any way my aunts name is pat hunt.
She was primed for this abusive marriage by a dysfunctional family - including her brother - that never had her interest at heart. This was also around the time Richard sabotaged her precious solo album.
@@NedNickerson2010 Too bad this is all that's left of it and that it wasn't preserved better. A friend of mine sang at the wedding. It would have been nice to give him a clearer video.
Everytime i watch this video,it breaks my heart..I'm not in Karen's era,just 21 in age...female..But seen KC in UA-cam is a Love at first Sight..Became a little bit tomboy just for her..I'm jealous and heart broken for this moment of her life..I felt that i'm already a widower..,it's weird for some but this is how i feel for this special woman..I love KC alot..and till my death come,she will be "MY FIRST LADY"forever..
Actually her mother agnes, the fire breathing dragon, coerced her to go through with it even though she wanted to pull out at the last minute when she found out Mr wonderful had lied to her and had no more lead in his pencil. He had had a vasectomy and had failed to tell her which was a deal breaker Cuz I think she wanted kids. Karen had no control over her own life she was constantly bullied and overpowered by that dysfunctional family and couldn't stand up for herself and assert her independence. Rip karen your in a place of unconditional love and acceptance now and out of this satanic hell plane
This man did a great disservice to her marrying her under false pretenses. Her family did a disservice to her bullying her to go through with it. This is the harm of what narcissism can do to someone. If you have doubts, then do not marry your “soul mate.” Listen to your inner voice. Get away.
Karen wanted to start a family and found out Tom Burris had a vasectomy. She wanted to call off the wedding. In fact, she was bored and anxious to return from her honeymoon. Obviously this man did not love her the way she deserved to be loved.
@@roydidlock1867 Perhaps he had it reversed. Perhaps he didn't want any more kids at the time he married Karen, and just _told_ her that. We may never know.
@@connynielson8686 Considering Karen's health, even if Tom Burris could father a child, Karen would most likely have had a rough time conceiving. She was so rail thing!
How could an idiot like this man conquer a beautiful girl like Karen is something that I will never understand. God keep Karen in a good place cause is that she deserves !! Karen, we will love you forever !!!
I don’t care how much the wedding cost or how late you had to cancel EVEN IF YOU WERE A RUNAWAY BRIDE AT THE ALTER !! Don’t marry a man that tells you weeks before the marriage he had a vasectomy and this news was a shock ,because he knew you wanted children !! ( And if you mom was telling you it’s too late to cancel , idk your mom can take her advice and piss on it ) LISTEN GIRLS DONT GET MARRIED !!! Run run run - there is a Mr Right wait on HIM !!!
Mr. Burris was paid at least one million dollars (by Richard) to shut up and go away and never say anything about the Carpenters for the rest of his life. Per the book, "Little Girl Blue - The Life of Karen Carpenter" P. 338
Scott H Very informative and not constrained by the Carpenter family approvals that limit the truth about some things. The result is the same - a horrible and painful, self-inflicted end to a beautiful and talented woman.
Scott H; the reason Tom Burris has never spoken about Karen or their Relationship is because he is forbidden to do so due to legal action taken By Richard.
He had a son that was in his 20s, I believe.:( Burris took her for all she was worth -- she bailed him out because he was a fraud with no money. What I heard in an interview. She wanted no part of the wedding and wanted out. her mother to ld her "We paid for it...you are showing up; People magazine is coming."
Her family was so old fashion, she want to live, not be what other people wanted her to be, she need to be her own person, not all the time saying clean cut and old fashion, old fashion can make you crazy boring. She needed to get out there without her brother. Poor thing, she tried.
So beautiful RIP. Does Richard mind you have posted this? I would make sure just out of respect for him and the family. Yet thank you very much for choosing to want to share it with us. God bless you †
For not wanting to marry the good digging man this sure was overkill. It’s like being used as a prop. I’m sure it was a fun day due to the festivities but being a part of something to make others happy seems to be the story of her life.
These comments are sad. I don't believe any thing I read/hear and only half of what I see. With that being said, the saddest part of her story is that we, as a society, didn't know enough about her disease back then or how to treat it. Unfortunately, her family and friends did not understand the illness enough to help her, otherwise she might be around today. Such a huge loss for everyone!!! UGH :-(
1980 NO Support for Karen's Solo Album> released 1996 = 13 yrs. after passing away, it went Platinum (1M sales) because it was great! Quincy Jones loved it & tried to get A&M & Richard to release it 1980 > Karen was HAPPY beyond words! IF Released & NO Marriage to wrong guy > Karen would be with us today! How Sad it never happened while she was still with us.
Her mother and brother made her life a torture with that family any normal person would ve end up as Karen unhappy lonely and financially, , only God knows if something else, abused
Ocorreu vários abusos com Karen,até mesmo abuso sexual na infância....tom burris descobriu alguns desses abusos e esse foi o motivo de tanto pânico e contratos de sigilos....seria um grande escândalo,Karen não podia contar a verdade do que sofreu desda infância,sua família negaria tudo e acabaria com ela, exatamente como fizeram!
I have looked and looked and can't find anything on Tom Burris or what happen to him, I know he was paid off for silence, but did he ever remarry, or move out of the country?
a damaged soul. She probably got raped by her dad or her brother. She should have never been that messed up. Look into the family and you will most likely find why she wanted to kill her self. There is a dad or an uncle or something bad there.
Murray Glover totally agree!! People didnt talk about Family Sexual abuse back then...but all the signs are there. i mean, richard married his cousin?! he was a celebrity who coulda had any woman he wanted...but he chose his cousin?! no normal dude does that...
Dang...you're right...hadn't thought of it. Also how obsessed with perfection and scarily traditional and overbearing the family was gives big signs of somethings being off.
MaleOrderBride Bang on! People like to claim the cousin was adopted...she is not! Her and Richard LOOK ALIKE!! And Phil Ramones wife (one of Karen’s dearest friends)talked about it...one of the few people who is not afraid of getting sued for dare speaking truth. Him and Agnes chased off all of Karen’s boyfriends and potential relationships.
This is sad considering what he actually did to her - tricked her into marrying him and she wanted children but he had had a vasectomy so couldn't have a baby with her - then the jerk took all of her money because he was broke. So he just took advantage of her.
I wish Karen found someone who would have loved her forever and saved her from herself and her family.
Me to 😞😓 especially her heartless mother
Oh sweety. Unfortunately nobody has the ability to save us from ourselves. The reason it's so important to learn to love ourselves is because of our ability to level incomparable hate on ourselves. Thats why my wish for the world is that we all learn to love ourselves as much as we say we love others.
@@MD-ii3kw Sure!😎
I agree, Sad!! 😔
Amen
This burns my ass. Karen was such a pure soul and didn't need this a**hole to tear her down. Karen was an angelic soul who deserved better. I will love her for the rest of my life.
I agree with you. She deserved so much better in a husband.
It couldn't have been easy for him, living with an obsessive compulsive anorexic woman
@@lenafan492 This wedding should have never happened. It was a disaster from day one. Karen deserved a much better man in her life. Did you know that he (her beloved husband) cleaned out her accounts and that the day Karen died their divorce was finalized. I kniow that Kareb deserved so much better!!!
@@clarewelter2207 Yes, I know he was an awful person, and the marriage was probably loveless, but Karen could be a very difficult and manipulative person herself. Many anorexics are
@@lenafan492 like I have said he was an awful person and in fairness to the both of them the marriage should not have taken place. RIP KAREN. Thank you for all of your beautiful songs that will live on forever
Karen Carpenter's voice/vocals-one of the rarest in the world.
She never looked so beautiful than she did. On her wedding day. You deserved so much more.
to karen in heaven. thank you for all the beautiful songs you sang. I hear your songs in stores everywhere. A great tribute to your God given talent.
I'll always love her.
AMEN ♡
If not the rarest & greatest.
One of the saddest stories in the history of popular music! But the lovely music and Karens lovely one of a kind voice will live forever!! ❤️
Ned, thanks very much for posting this video. It was a beautiful wedding, but would have been more enjoyable to watch if I did not already "know the ending". Karen deserved so much more than Burris. She was such a beautiful soul.
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He lied to her, constantly. He only used her. I don't think he ever loved her.
This should have never happened! She deserved much better. She didn't deserve this! SO SAD.
With all the men who were in love with her, she could have found someone much better than this conniving creep! It makes me sick.
On their Wikipedia bio page, it says that Karen wanted to have children and apparently thought this guy did to. However, he had had a vasectomy and concealed that from her. When she found out, she was (rightfully) devastated from his deception and filed for divorce. She died before she had the change to sign them. He buried her with his wedding ring. I'm glad to know he did not receive anything from her will. Sounds like a total scoundrel. Never have trusted real estate developers!
She found out about the vasectomy before the wedding that is one of the reason's she wanted to call if off. but Agnes said Hell NO!
HAgnes 🕷
Me neither they are just shits in suits...can't stand them...or insurance salesmen!
He drained her savings and was just one more contributor to the heartbroken state of her mental health due to the fact that, from what I gather, no one...not no one ever truly gave a damn about going out of their way to save her from the life constructed around her and taken away from her...such a very dangerous situation.
I DON'T have any children and I'm GRATEFUL for that!!🙏❤
If you read the book 'Little Girl Blue' you will, perhaps as I do view this video as the story of Karen's life. First mommy dearest says when Karen asked if she thought she should marry this man, her response was that Karen was old enough to decide for herself. Fast forward, Karen finds out that this man is a liar and desperately wants to call off the wedding and all of a sudden mommy dearest is back on her broom telling Karen that the invitations were out, people were coming from all over, and a small fortune had been spent (hmmm...wonder whose money?) and that Karen ***would*** go down that aisle, that she 'had made her bed and now had to lie in it'. Agnes Carpenter was a controlling domineering shrew and the book is toned down because little Richie doesn't want his family's image tarnished. We will never know the true story of Karen Carpenter. Thank you for posting this, wish it were better quality but not your fault, and just watching it knowing the back story makes it very very interesting.
+loco madre I like to call her Hagnes.
+loco madre I read the book a few years ago; I didn't realize the book was toned down since it was not a Carpenter approved bio like others books about Karen. It was a good yet sad read all in all.
wat this book all about
+loco madre don't forget the hush money Richard paid Burris to keep his mouth shut plus Richard married his own first cousin. and all the documented strange behavior of Richard during the filming of the TV movie about Karan.
so much of life ahead
One of the worst things to happen to Karen was to get married to Burris, but also Richard’s and the record company’s negative reaction to her solo album and refusing to release it. Two huge blows to Karen’s psyche.
you tube is incredible I knew about her wedding in those years and more than thirty years later the video thanks Ned for posting this
This was the mistake of her life a man that only wanted her money broke her heart but did not profit one dime justice was done.
Richard has seen that Burris keeps his mouth shut and has paid him hush money and legal action. The day Karen died she was to sign divorce papers so they were still legally married.
Too bad she didn't live with him first. She'd have been on to him in a flash.
He got a settlement to keep his mouth shut.ge still became a millionaire. He bleed her dry before they separated.
@@stillayl No it isn't. In a "living-in" arrangement, people still put their best foot forward and lie in the relationship. Besides, Karen was somewhat religious, if not Christian. She had scruples against that kind of thing.
He got the house and everything in it..... her fortune when to Richard and her parents (from what I've heard)
Lovely:) Thank you so much for putting these videos up for us!
yes
What did she feel about it?
@@Jess-k6q - She apparently found out that her husband had a vasectomy, so no children.
The whole thing is so ghoulish. The bride is undernourished to the point of collapse. She was probably already dying. But about to marry a gold-digger. And the background chorus are singing _"So much of life ahead..."_
Undernourished? Have you ever HEARD of Karen Carpenter??
jehouse61 Yes, undernourished. It's what happens when you're seriously ill with Anorexia Nervosa.
And even more underfed because if you have been a bride, you know last minute stuff has you running like crazy...who eats?:(
Karen may have been a "healthy" weight by doctor's standards when she died, but the weight was put on too fast and her heart wasn't healthy enough to handle it. All the years of abuse her body took from starving herself, taking pills and using ipecac caused the damage that killed her, not ipecac alone. So yes, she was already dying. Her heart and body were starving for the nutrients they so desperately needed.
@@emsparamedic5183 Sadly, that is true.
Karen you were just too good for this world :( you deserve everything now that you’re in heaven with no one to hurt you
Excess control and excess freedom can be destruction :( but all she wanted was to live, love and be loved being herself. They never let her grow nor did she know to speak up for herself. Her story just reminds me why I want to be a counselor in the first place :(. Can I travel back and tell her shes beautiful and everything will be ok and that she is loved..sadly no but I hope she knows from where she is many do :(
wow, this footage is priceless!
The hand of fate was with Karen at this point. She was marrying a man she knew could not get her pregnant, and even if he could she might not have been able to carry a baby to full term as malnourished as she was.
i was at her funeral...she was my favorite female singer...i just happened to be in california at the time of her death..so ironic...i took a bus and waited outside in the long lineup to get in...btw...She found out that he did not want kids and had a vasectomy before they met...she was not happy because she loved kids and wanted to have some of her own...read her bio on google
Putting aside the details of Tom's character and personal situation for the moment; why couldn't they have adopted? They had enough money to do so. Plus the main point of raising children is being able to bring them up with good character and values enough to bring honor and a sense of accomplishment to the parents' lives-to impart something of yourself to them to make their lives successful and happy. That doesn't require heredity.
@@ThatClassic70sGirl I agree - under normal circumstances. However, in this case, it was probably best that a child was not brought into this tragic situation.
thanks Ned to posting this
Wow, these comments are so interesting. I never knew the story behind the beautiful voice of Karen Carpenter. No wonder why she struggled with illness that ended her life!!! To think of singing such perfect songs of love, and if it's true that her life and marriage was a pretend to a man who didn't really love her... that's the saddest story. That means every song she sang for us must have reminded her every time she sang, that her life/marriage was a secret living a lie, and that's what ultimately killed her, as it would have killed anyone!!! No wonder why some of those songs are so incredibly sad!!!
Whenever I listen to their songs like Solitaire or I Believe You, I cry. Her voice was so beautiful in these ballads. Yet you can hear her sincerity and pain at the same time. It still haunts me.
Her marriage came within the last few years of her life. Her most famous songs were recorded long before the marriage. The underline melancholy we are hearing in her voice is from her longing to be accepted by her family. I can very much relate to this. It's like I said years ago... the biggest heartbreak of my life wasnt from a lover....but from the ridicule, lack of acceptance and ultimate dissolve of my family. I know exactly what it's like to be controlled by a family of assholes.
The most cherished hopes and wishes turn out to be the most illusive.Im in same boat.
HoNeStRaGe me too. I loved my mum dearly but now she's gone, I'm alone. I'm married but sometimes I feel the love as conditional, and people love you for what they can get. ...
If you listen to the lyrics of many of her songs they are songs of loneliness and low self worth disguised as love songs.
Thank you so much mr. Ned, this is amazing!!!
I wish her mother would have backed her when she decided not to narry this jerk! Shame on Tom for not appreciating his wife! What a beautiful person Karen was.
Not enough footage of Karen that's what we all want to see anyway!!!
Mike Hudson I wonder if she didnt want to be in it ---- if what is said about him is true, and her mother
Katie Blocker In true American fashion, when is the divorce? lol lol
This wedding was the not-so-indirect cause of Karen's death.
I believe it was one of the biggest factors that contributed to her death.
@@katemaloney4296 , No. It was just yet another instance of Karen having no say in her life. Started way before the wedding, before she even met this guy. There were a lot of things that ultimately lead to her untimely death, her Mom, her brother and the control they exerted over her, even in marriage.
So I am supposed to take the word of someone who use the title 7beers? What an ignorant claim and illogical argument to make. 😎
@@richardea4223 It's from the book "Little Girl Blue: The Life of Karen Carpenter" by Randy L. Schmidt.
@@richardea4223 the genetic fallacy is an illogical claim to make.
I recognized Luciano Pavarotti, Casey Kasem, Olivia Newton-John, and maybe Bert Convey in the congregation. I couldn't see others clearly but glad she had her buds there. Such a tragic ending to her story though.
R.I.P Karen love from sri lanka
Geeee.. I was a great fan of the Carpenters since the late 60's but I wasn't aware that she really got married... and later on divorced this man... how painful it must have been for Karen.. I still love hearing her songs.... so sad to know she's passed away several years ago.... Karen may your lovely soul rest in peace...
Luvly Eleonora Amen
+Luvly Eleonora Actually they never divorced--Karen died before signing the papers legitimately.
Oh really? Poor her
MsKimbo1959 that is so sad
She was going to call off the wedding and her mother said absolutely not, she said she’d paid for everything and it was going to happen 😢
Too bad Ms. Carpenter didn't have enough courage to DEFY her mother....she was an adult, after all.
@@tugboat2 If she did have courage, she might have disowned her mother a long time ago and might have lived longer.
Wtf the mother did what!!!
Typical narcissistic mother.
He didn’t deserve Karen 😢
I agree with a lot of the comments. This has a real "creepy" vibe to it. This was her last shot to break free and it was all wrong. Getting her hair styled at 2:08 her face takes on an "angelic" quality. She was such a beautiful woman. You can't pin all the blame on Tom Burris either; did he know he was marrying a women in a "terminal" condition? The damage had been done, her days were numbered.
No...he took ADVANTAGE of her by over-spending her money, lying to her about his ability to father children and gave her MORE stress to her life.
You must be related to this loser, JERK!😎
I think one of the reasons Karen waited so long to marry was because she was told all her life to be afraid and that all men were after was her money, and now this? Her brother Richard and her family wouldn't let her fall in love and be happy with anyone without their interference and without the family's approval, Then they somehow approved of this jerk by the name of Tom Burris. Probably a friend of Herb Albert or Richard or the Family. Karen was more than ready at this point to be a happily married wife and mother and then this Carpenter family approved crumb bum came along and accidentally failed to inform Karen that he just had a vasectomy. Karen was devastated and she deserved so much better than this. I bet the honeymoon was over 2 hours after the wedding. Thank God Karen, that you are now a free spirit with no control freaks running your afterlife.
Maybe her IQ was not at the same level as the voice. I think she was a 12 years old and that was her allure and everybody loved her.
lorenzo magazzeni
mfw people bring up stupid fucking IQ’s.
I bet you spend time on that R/Incel subreddit lmao.
Robin Scheines
Goodbye To love documentary said Phil Ramone's wife set them up
What a beautiful soul. Only the good die young, as Billy Joel said.
if only we could sacrifice Miley Cyrus to bring back Karen
I AGREE
Wishful thinking. But you'll get no argument from me.
She came into this world and did her THANG, and left this world, knowing she did THE WILL IF GODS, BY LETTING HER LIGHT SHINE BRIGHT♡
Billy Joel is gay af 👬
What a gold digger this man was
Scoundrel, that’s what they call em
I love Karen carpenters music its timeless it will go on forever we miss you Karen Carpenter and we miss your brother to space his name escapes my memory but his music is in my heart and in my mind send
This is presented as such a love story. So sad.
Thank you so much for sharing this.
I love the 80s hair styles
This is still the late Seventies.:)
the 80s did not start until 1981. 1971-1980 is the Seventies.
stillayl
Good point :) they look the same tho hehe
+stillayl
I disagree! The 70s lasted from 1970 to 1979 and the 80s from 1980-89. The trick to getting it right is in the 7s and 8s ;)
blackmore4 People have too much time on their hands lol
According to "Jeopardy!" a decade starts with the year ending in 1...
And ends in the year with a 0 at the end.
We count from one to ten. hence 1 through "zero".:)
+M Chong----the song is called "More." It was written around 1962 and made popular by Bobby Darin and recorded by many other artists through the years.
"More' was first made popular as movie theme song from Monde Cane.....fact
She had a beautiful voice
Se fue muy joven pero nos dejó su música, y su voz inconfundible, y reconocida alrededor del mundo, siempre la recordaremos, los ángeles se van pronto.
Los HUMANOS NO son angeles solamente los animalitos!🙏❤🕊
@@minivegana6516 SOME humans are angels and Karen was one of them.
@@monilaninetynine3811 SORRY, ONLY ANIMALS ARE ANGELS, PERIOD.🙏❤🕊 NO MATTER HOW MUCH HUMANS MAY TRY TO BE "GOOD", THEY WILL NEVER, EVER BE ANGELS, PERIOD.
@@monilaninetynine3811 WE ARE ALL SINNERS, PERIOD. THAT'S A FACT, PERIOD.
I wish her marriage was a better one. If it was maybe it could have given her enough live to save her. A beautiful lady , caring and so sweet
Is that Casey Kasem at 1:15??
Yes, it is!
Regina Flanagan
how old was he at that time
deftone4u Yes...
charlene owen Too Old...Money Grabbing, Gold Digger!
Oh yes
Tragic life, tragic ending. It's heartbreaking!
I just think it's so sad that the person that brought so many beautiful love songs to life never really found the person that she could truly love and the one that would truly love her she married this person thinking that he cared for her only to find out at the last minute that he didn't and then to please her family she went through with it you can see in only a year year and a half how her health deteriorated because of this marriage what a despicable human being to lie to her rest in peace we love and miss you
how did you get this? did they air this on tv or something??
To me, Karen was one of the top three female vocalists that has ever been in my lifetime.I would have liked to see her play the drums. I understand that was her instratment. She was awesome beauty other than not having enough pounds. I don't know the " real" story. Whatever caused her to not like her body weight I thought was the issue. I really hope and pray she knew the Good Lord before she died. What an amazing voice she had!!!!!!!!!
Como me transporta esta canción a tantos recuerdos la dulce voz de karen
When not one of your friends can find ONE redeeming quality to like about your fiance, THAT should give you pause.
It is sad she never found the love she deserved. In fairness, Richard said some of her rules about guys-like she would only date men who made as much money as she did, so she’d know they didn’t want her just for her money-cut her off from 99% of all potential men, one of who surely might have done so. I’m sure her health issues presented a challenge or strain to the marriage as well. When I hear “Goodbye to Love,” now it breaks my heart, because it sounds like her own personal autobiography. It was a hopeful day, but as with many marriages, it was not to be. But even now, 40 years later, Karen is perhaps the most beloved female vocalist if all time. Wherever she is, I hope the power of our love for her reaches her heart, for her fans still adore her.
Karen Carpenter's life is a cautionary tale. It is meant to teach and her voice is healing to whoever hears it.
you spoke my mind...... 💗
We all make bad choices in are life and this was Karen's
She should have not married this tool.she needed a true man that would treat her like the queen that she was.
I think you meant to say: she should have not married this stool
I had no idea she got married on August 31st, that's my parents' anniversary. Although they tied the knot in 1991, not 1980. But that's still a really cool coincidence!
Wow. This is fucking horrifying. Amazing time capsule, though. Well done getting your hands on this obscure piece of history.
karen Carpenter tu demeures toujours dans mon coeur ta belle voix d'ange ne quitterait jamais mes oreilles tu es ma chanteuse préfèree jusqu'à la fin de mes jours nous sommes nés toi et moi dans la même année 1950 tes chansons m'ont accompagné pendant toute ma jeunesse durant mes études j'aimais ta très belle voie tes belles chansons ont habités mon coeur loin de toi de plusieurs milliers de kilomètres je ne cessait d'écouter tes belles chansons jusqu'à soudainement j'ai appris la mauvaise nouvelle de ton décès j'ai pleuré tous seul loin de toi j'aurais souhaité assister à tes funérailles mais le temps et la distance nous avait séparé mais l'amour envers toi s'est installé dans mon coeur depuis 33ans je ne cesse pas d'écouter tes très belles chansons avec les larmes aux yeux je ne te cache pas que je t'aime fous de toi tu as habité mon coeur je t'aimerais toujours et pour l'éternité je ne t'oublierai jamais alors que tu ne m'a jamais connu que Dieu grand clément te garde dans son paradis reposes en paix tu es aimée sur terre et dans le ciel Adieu love love love.
What a real jerk Agnes Carpenter must have been that when Karen wanted to call off her wedding to Tom Burris because he had deceived her by failing to tell her that he had had a vasectomy and refuse to have it reversed when he knew damn right well that she wanted to have a family, Agnes would not let her cancel the wedding just because so many guests had been invited to the wedding and had flown in from all over the country to attend it! She ridiculously said to karen the old expression that " you've made your bed, now you must sleep in it", forcing Karen to go through with a sham wedding and sham marriage! No wonder the members of the Carpenters' band referred to Agnes as "the dragon lady" !
Wasn't that Kasey Kasem with the witch that killed him?
Yes
Ugg!
This wedding was the nail in Karen's coffin, because in two and half years she was dead.
@EnvironmentTruthWarriior Taylor you're delusional
@@met.marfil What does that say about you?😎
This false marriage probably made her even more prone to anorexia
@EnvironmentTruthWarriior Taylor Karen wanted to call the weeding off because she found out he had a vasectomy only days before the wedding and she wanted children but her mother made her go through with it. He was rude to her, called her a bag of bones and took a lot of her money, yeah she was real happy you fool.
I think that she was the best and will be for ever. One of a kind, never to be anyone like her. That man was a very bad person. He will have to answer to God for what he did to Karen. She will live for ever in her voice and in us. But Him? No body knows that he exist if it not because Karen Carpenter married him. What a wasted of human kind. Thank so much for this video.
I'm adopted and I'm 17 years old. And my birth moms name was Karen Lee Carpenter. I love this singer because of her voice we look similar too though I wish this lady was still around so I could ask her if they are related in any way my aunts name is pat hunt.
sure . . . . .
Good grief, this was 33(!) years ago. It's scary how fast the time flies. I remember when this wedding was featured in "People" magazine.
Does anyone have software that could 'clean' the quality?
She was primed for this abusive marriage by a dysfunctional family - including her brother - that never had her interest at heart. This was also around the time Richard sabotaged her precious solo album.
I know this was not in HDR days but why is the video quality unwatchable?
Because it's a copy of a 40-year old video tape.
@@NedNickerson2010 Too bad this is all that's left of it and that it wasn't preserved better. A friend of mine sang at the wedding. It would have been nice to give him a clearer video.
Thanks for posting. m.d.
❤❤
Everytime i watch this video,it breaks my heart..I'm not in Karen's era,just 21 in age...female..But seen KC in UA-cam is a Love at first Sight..Became a little bit tomboy just for her..I'm jealous and heart broken for this moment of her life..I felt that i'm already a widower..,it's weird for some but this is how i feel for this special woman..I love KC alot..and till my death come,she will be "MY FIRST LADY"forever..
how everyone loves you , Karen…. 💗
Actually her mother agnes, the fire breathing dragon, coerced her to go through with it even though she wanted to pull out at the last minute when she found out Mr wonderful had lied to her and had no more lead in his pencil. He had had a vasectomy and had failed to tell her which was a deal breaker Cuz I think she wanted kids. Karen had no control over her own life she was constantly bullied and overpowered by that dysfunctional family and couldn't stand up for herself and assert her independence. Rip karen your in a place of unconditional love and acceptance now and out of this satanic hell plane
This man did a great disservice to her marrying her under false pretenses. Her family did a disservice to her bullying her to go through with it. This is the harm of what narcissism can do to someone. If you have doubts, then do not marry your “soul mate.” Listen to your inner voice. Get away.
Karen wanted to start a family and found out Tom Burris had a vasectomy. She wanted to call off the wedding. In fact, she was bored and
anxious to return from her honeymoon. Obviously this man did not love her the way she deserved to be loved.
In spite of his vasectomy,Tom went on to father a son by his third wife.
Really? Hope he is happy in his life today.
@@roydidlock1867 Perhaps he had it reversed. Perhaps he didn't want any more kids at the time he married Karen, and just _told_ her that. We may never know.
Maybe the whole thing is made up..maybe she couldn't have kids.
@@connynielson8686 Considering Karen's health, even if Tom Burris could father a child, Karen would most likely have had a rough time conceiving. She was so rail thing!
Look at her at 2:07, so pretty.
+Joseph Schmoe "Love is a many splendor thing".
So marvelous
She looks here like Laura Branigan who was another very beautiful girl who died too young.
Looks like an episode from "Dynasty" or "Dallas", Mr T at 2.47
+Stephen Riley 1:15 Casey Kasem, I believe...
How could an idiot like this man conquer a beautiful girl like Karen is something that I will never understand. God keep Karen in a good place cause is that she deserves !! Karen, we will love you forever !!!
I don’t care how much the wedding cost or how late you had to cancel EVEN IF YOU WERE A RUNAWAY BRIDE AT THE ALTER !! Don’t marry a man that tells you weeks before the marriage he had a vasectomy and this news was a shock ,because he knew you wanted children !! ( And if you mom was telling you it’s too late to cancel , idk your mom can take her advice and piss on it ) LISTEN GIRLS DONT GET MARRIED !!! Run run run - there is a Mr Right wait on HIM !!!
What does Karen ex husband have to say? I've never heard one word from him.
Mr. Burris was paid at least one million dollars (by Richard) to shut up and go away and never say anything about the Carpenters for the rest of his life.
Per the book, "Little Girl Blue - The Life of Karen Carpenter" P. 338
steevee1945 Thanks for the info. I guess he had one million reason's not to talk.
steevee1945 How did you like the book Little girl blue? I'm thinking of buying it.
Scott H Very informative and not constrained by the Carpenter family approvals that limit the truth about some things.
The result is the same - a horrible and painful, self-inflicted end to a beautiful and talented woman.
Scott H; the reason Tom Burris has never spoken about Karen or their Relationship is because he is forbidden to do so due to legal action taken By Richard.
Karen was pretty sick at this time. The "husband" was a total jerk.
Who is the bridesmaid with long blonde hair at 1:05? She's rather gorgeous & glamorous 🤩💃🏼
He had a son that was in his 20s, I believe.:(
Burris took her for all she was worth -- she bailed him out because he was a fraud with no money. What I heard in an interview.
She wanted no part of the wedding and wanted out. her mother to ld her "We paid for it...you are showing up; People magazine is coming."
A few seconds of Karen....we all wanted more 😥
Her family was so old fashion, she want to live, not be what other people wanted her to be, she need to be her own person, not all the time saying clean cut and old fashion, old fashion can make you crazy boring. She needed to get out there without her brother. Poor thing, she tried.
Roger Winters: That may seem true, BUT if you have A LOT of freedom, it can DESTROY you, PERIOD.
Behold the (historic) documented series of Karen Carpenter's pre-emptive funeral...
Ela merecia tudo de bom! Deixou saudades!
Karen should have been out on that terrace tying bedsheets together
I WASN'T INVITED!!🤔😂😂😂😂
I'm cryed when i watch this video!
So beautiful and so sad 💕💕🥲🥲🥲🥲💔💔💔
Beautiful tribute!:
So beautiful RIP. Does Richard mind you have posted this? I would make sure just out of respect for him and the family. Yet thank you very much for choosing to want to share it with us. God bless you †
Lisa Velez Just happy he posted!😀
For not wanting to marry the good digging man this sure was overkill. It’s like being used as a prop. I’m sure it was a fun day due to the festivities but being a part of something to make others happy seems to be the story of her life.
These comments are sad. I don't believe any thing I read/hear and only half of what I see. With that being said, the saddest part of her story is that we, as a society, didn't know enough about her disease back then or how to treat it. Unfortunately, her family and friends did not understand the illness enough to help her, otherwise she might be around today. Such a huge loss for everyone!!! UGH :-(
1980 NO Support for Karen's Solo Album> released 1996 = 13 yrs. after passing away, it went Platinum (1M sales) because it was great! Quincy Jones loved it & tried to get A&M & Richard to release it 1980 > Karen was HAPPY beyond words! IF Released & NO Marriage to wrong guy > Karen would be with us today! How Sad it never happened while she was still with us.
Her mother and brother made her life a torture with that family any normal person would ve end up as Karen unhappy lonely and financially, , only God knows if something else, abused
Ocorreu vários abusos com Karen,até mesmo abuso sexual na infância....tom burris descobriu alguns desses abusos e esse foi o motivo de tanto pânico e contratos de sigilos....seria um grande escândalo,Karen não podia contar a verdade do que sofreu desda infância,sua família negaria tudo e acabaria com ela, exatamente como fizeram!
Love it. What year this footage came out?
1980
I find it strange that this is available for the public to view . how the hell did it get here? does no one think this is weird af
stop it.
I’ve ALWAYS loved this song!!
And the carpenters ♥️🌟♥️🌟💋
Is that Olivia Newton John, the one at 6:00 mn ?
I have looked and looked and can't find anything on Tom Burris or what happen to him, I know he was paid off for silence, but did he ever remarry, or move out of the country?
a damaged soul. She probably got raped by her dad or her brother. She should have never been that messed up. Look into the family and you will most likely find why she wanted to kill her self. There is a dad or an uncle or something bad there.
'I have always felt that someone did something to Karen that she probably never told and that it was probably sexual.
me, too
Murray Glover totally agree!! People didnt talk about Family Sexual abuse back then...but all the signs are there. i mean, richard married his cousin?! he was a celebrity who coulda had any woman he wanted...but he chose his cousin?! no normal dude does that...
Dang...you're right...hadn't thought of it. Also how obsessed with perfection and scarily traditional and overbearing the family was gives big signs of somethings being off.
MaleOrderBride Bang on! People like to claim the cousin was adopted...she is not! Her and Richard LOOK ALIKE!! And Phil Ramones wife (one of Karen’s dearest friends)talked about it...one of the few people who is not afraid of getting sued for dare speaking truth. Him and Agnes chased off all of Karen’s boyfriends and potential relationships.
Brooke Adams should have played Karen
Yeah definitely..or Karen Allen!
This is sad considering what he actually did to her - tricked her into marrying him and she wanted children but he had had a vasectomy so couldn't have a baby with her - then the jerk took all of her money because he was broke. So he just took advantage of her.
In all honesty I doubt Karen could have become pregnant given her malnourished state of health. Like most anorexics she was in denial.