If it’s more fun to drive, has a 7 year warranty and it is ultimately cheaper. The Kia should have won. This is a budget car test. The peace of mind a 7 Year warranty brings when you haven’t got a lot of money. Is hard to ignore. There is still a bit of Brand bias here. That’s my thoughts anyway.
It would have been fairer IMO to compare the 1.0 Kia with the 1.0 60 PS Up! rather than the 1.25 litre Kia. Performance and emissions for both 1.0 litre cars are similar.
Opinion, opinion, and truth. So its 1 and one. Why is everyone like you saying its biased obviously there is a bit but lmao the interior of the picanto is no way near as nice as the up!'s I have been driven in both cars and the vw does top it off. How about you shut your whiney ass up and like the video
I have always wondered how and why VW gets to have better build guality. Where I live VW does not get rated to that degree. Kia and Hyundai design and build guality is regarded as fairly high here. So there you go. The badge bias you Brits project is still strong.
@@MI-Tech Wouldn't surprise me if it costs 200 Euro extra to get the metal painted. It costs 400 Euro extra to be able to connect your smartphone. I think the phone holder alone is 150 Euro. VW's extras book is thicker than the bible. 150 E for painted door mirrors. VW, No Thanks!!!
U guys clearly liked the Picanto more, but your biasness towards VW is crystal clear. U are shocked that a Korean car can be better than German car. Admit it. 😅
HAving driven both, no, the Up is amazing in terms of its feel. The Kia Picanto is a great car altogether but the feel of the interior and whatnot just is amazing for the price on the up. that plus a really nice gearbox setup if you choose the "slower" 60 hp variant goes a long way. Options end up being roughly the same equipment, i think the Kia was slightly cheaper fully equippied but it comes down to about the same. NOW, on the used market, the kia has the edge because many are still under warranty while the earlier model Up´s mostly dont and the Up DOES seem to have issues with the gearbox if it wasnt treated well, my Mii soon has 200k on it tho and hasn´t given me any problems other than a dead battery and a rattle with the Nav-holder. Its a great car altoegther.
There is a ridiculous obsession in the UK for German cars. So many on the roads on PCP lease deals I dont look twice. Im not impressed by any of them. All driven by show offs thinking everyone is looking. What a dreadful self obsessed society.
5:53 "but the VW's superior build quality makes it a better car to live with every day". You didn't do a longterm test, so your conclusion is effectively baseless.
KIA is more reliable anyways... i know it's not 100% decisive, because owners play a big role (not taking care of car, having old tires, etc.) but the german TÜV (equivalent to british MOT) ranks the VW Up! at #72 with 5.8% failing the test. The average failure rate for all cars is 5.9%. Now the KIA Picanto is ranked at #47 with a failure rate of 5.3% If we take a look at all competitors of the above video: Dacia Sandero ranked at #121 with 11.0% failure rate Fiat Panda ranked at #115 with 9.3% failure rate Toyota Aygo ranked at #81 with 6.3% failure rate VW Up! ranked at #72 with 5.8% failure rate KIA Picanto ranked at #47 with 5.3% failure rate MG 3 not included in the stats, because it's probably not sold here. Or atleast i haven't seen a single one yet. One of the best performing small cars would be the Opel Adam (in UK known as Vauxhall) which is ranked at #28 with a 4.4% failure rate.
Superior build quality is a massive over statement . If it is the case why don't VW provide a 7 year warranty. Also you could not spec the VW to the same level as the Kia is not an option. I have owned a Polo not that long ago I liked it but am more Impressed with the Picanto lots of kit fun to drive easy to live with
it is utter bullshite even. I drive a Picanto and a VW UP and believe me, the one with the superior build quality is the Kia. By far. Also, IN the car (where you will be most of the time) it feels very luxorious and complete. Not a piece of metal body visible, and only usage of the best and sturdy materials. The UP feels all plastic and cheap inside.
@@brycmtthw that's going off of manufacturer figures 😬 ... I took one out today actually for a test drive and was doing 35 MPG so, it's not like the claim some manufacturers make that is probably 10-15 MPG less than it is in the real world figures.
When you've got two cars that you equally like for different aspects in their character you shouldn't be afraid of declaring joint winners. And say why you'd want one over the other and vice versa. For those interested it gives a more balanced judgement on the cars.
The Kia appears to be the clear winner here , yet the VW won due to 'better' quality !?!? despite it looking more basic inside & most people after a new budget car are not bothered if one make is built slightly better than its rivals , purchase price & running costs are what matter here , in this case a 7 year warranty more than compensates , giving you peace of mind that it is going to last.
@Fred Bloggs Why would I research the VW 1.2 TSI engine? It's not used for the VW Up!. The 60ps and 75ps 1.0 l engines used on the Up! are bullet-proof.
I had a Kia picanto for 10years and is exactly what you say even if it was a older model. No issues at all, only wear and tear. Like you say, it's a blast to drive! VW is not as good at all, 7 seconds, come on guys!
KIA Picanto also performs better in german TÜV (equivalent to british MOT) which ranks the VW Up! at #72 with 5.8% failing the test. The average failure rate for all cars is 5.9%. Now the KIA Picanto is ranked at #47 with a failure rate of 5.3% Other results: Dacia Sandero ranked at #121 with 11.0% failure rate Fiat Panda ranked at #115 with 9.3% failure rate Toyota Aygo ranked at #81 with 6.3% failure rate
Ha ha another biased German paid promotion.I have the Kia GT line s and it's leagues above that crappy VW anyday. I have the citigo Monte Carlo and a picanto GT line s and I can tell you the picanto is the better drive and also has disc breaks all round.The breaks on the Monte Carlo are terrible with drum brakes on the rear.
Totally BIASED test. I love 5th Gear but with this particular test, the guys made their minds up about the UP. It was going to win no matter what. Shame on you, Plato and Johnny
I've never felt like the several Ups I've driven were better put together than the Picantos I've driven. Very specifically not so much better that it would make any significant impact on the "day to day living with". This confuses me a little bit.
You hit the nail on the head. People today are easily sucked in. Just look at how many German cars there are on the roads on your way to work compared to non German brands. Its becoming silly really. The dealers are laughing at the muppets walking through the door, saddling themselves with huge PCP deals, with balloon payments they will never be able to afford, so if they dont want to lose money they have to trade it in for another expensive new one. Dealers winning again haha.
Kia =more power, fun to drive, better looking, more gadgets, arm rest, hand handle(grip), 7yr warrenty, better in everything so why VW? its your old minded bias thoughts..... Silly n stupid. You just lost your credit frm lot of people around the world.
We have two Picantos, a 2 spec and a 3 spec, both torque converter automatics. Why have a 'city car' with a clutch? Goes great on the motorway too! The competition all come with automated manuals which have a very bad reputation for getting through clutches in 30k-40k miles which are not covered by warranty. Its the only one that comes with an alarm as standard! The VW will always be very expensive to repair but the Picanti will always be cheap to repair after the 7 year warranty expires.
Ridiculous outcome 🤣 the build in the Kia is vastly superior and best in class as there is no tinny bodywork on the inside of the doors. And if you demand a bit more luxury you can't even get a setnav on the UP a feature even the Aygo has optional. And just like you slammed the aygo for, the up also doesn't have regular rear windows, and is beaten for boot space by the Picanto as well 🤣 And you wonder why some of the audience in the comments think the outcome was a paid add? 😆
The Picanto has a bigger boot and disk brakes all round and electric rear windows! Picanto is the only 'City Car' that comes with a proper torque converter automatic. All the others have the horrible automated manual.
This video is another example of the German brands fan club. UK roads are filled with Bmw, VW Audi etc. Nothing special about any of them. Its the perception and image that makes them popular because people are sucked in by clever marketing. They think by driving a so called premium car they will be treated differently, as if they are somehow better than everyone else. It never used to be like this. Now its all about image, look at me, posting on instawotsit and feckbook etc dreadful people.
@@oddities-whatnotI wouldn't buy a car just to look good. I would buy one because I like it. German cars (not the entry level ones) are usually faster, prettier and have way better interiors than others.
I Hate like every car review where the UP shows up it wins all the time, cant believe it... The picanto looks way better, drives better and have a 7 year warrenty. Clearly a paid add..
How is the VW up better than the kia when the boot is tiny it’s square it has a 3 year warranty but kia does all that it looks nice bigger boot bigger car and has a 7 year Warranty and it’s better built
Conclusion could have been given at the start… what a huge disappointment… my current car is an Up, but the next car will def be a Kia. Because More power More warranty Better drive More room Room for 3 in the back instead of 2 in the up Normal windows in the back Better build quality fades this all away??? That’s not a test, that’s a Up promo…
The Up is not quite as sharp sharp looking against the revised Kia Picanto which beats up the Up. The Picanto is roomier, better to drive, will have lower depreciation, and comes with an astonishing amount of kit, including safety kit, as standard. Picanto has more HP, more torque, is funnier to drive (they laughted way more during driving the Picanto), has much more gadgets included by the base model, and a longer warranty of 7 years. The Up build quality do not impress me when you can see bare metal on the inside of the doors. Volkswagen did not even include hard plastic there.
Biased to VW. I would have had the Kia but if it was in the test Hyundai i10. Very similar to Picanto (same underneath) but somehow the Hyundai feels a better car. So I bought one!
So basically the MG was a good car but its economy let it down ... (I smell bias)... also you forgot to mention the 7 year 80,000 mile warrenty... it shouldve been a choice of the MG, Kia and volkswagen
We use to have a 2015 Skoda citigo Monte Carlo and it was a brilliant car. Replaced it with a bigger car 2 years later and this year got my wife a 2016 Kia picanto. I would say the citigo is a better to drive but the Kia is very close and both nippy. If buying new I would go for the Kia.
Pleased with my 2020 Picanto '3' - more space & equipment than I ever thought I would get; plus, it's very well-built & generally doesn't feel 'cheap' at all. Some plastics in the interior are a bit cheap & cheerful with others looking very good. 1.3 engine was definitely the one to go for, but this seems to have disappeared in the new Picanto. Very stable chassis with good steering, great warranty. I would definitely get another!
Shame about the engine missing from the latest model. There are a few nearly new on Auto Trader with the 1.25 but probably not for long as the cost of petrol keeps going up.
I have the citigo Monte Carlo and the GT line s picanto and for me the Kia is my fav out of the two.So much better to drive and the handling is awesome.
I had the Citigo new about five years ago, the clutch felt weak and noisy. The UP has the same problem. Doesnt feel like it would last very long. My Subaru on the other hand, the gear change and clutch all feel solid. Lot more confidence in that.
You'd think that the Brits had lost WW2. The Kia was a lot faster & significantly better in a number of respects. But apparently 'snob value' trumps 7 year warranty. As an Aussie of 180 years ago Brit/Anglo descent, I don't get it.
KIA is more reliable anyways... i know it's not 100% decisive, because owners play a big role (not taking care of car, having old tires, etc.) but the german TÜV (equivalent to british MOT) ranks the VW Up! at #72 with 5.8% failing the test. The average failure rate for all cars is 5.9%. Now the KIA Picanto is ranked at #47 with a failure rate of 5.3% If we take a look at all competitors of the above video: Dacia Sandero ranked at #121 with 11.0% failure rate Fiat Panda ranked at #115 with 9.3% failure rate Toyota Aygo ranked at #81 with 6.3% failure rate VW Up! ranked at #72 with 5.8% failure rate KIA Picanto ranked at #47 with 5.3% failure rate MG 3 not included in the stats, because it's probably not sold here. Or atleast i haven't seen a single one yet. One of the best performing small cars would be the Opel Adam (in UK known as Vauxhall) which is ranked at #28 with a 4.4% failure rate.
Another example of this show's VW bias. They said in almost every category that the KIA was better, but finally they couldn't help themselves giving it to VW. And look at those acres of painted metal on show in the VW! It needs marking down for that. We have the 1 litre turbo Picanto and the only thing I can moan about is the lack of an intermittent setting on the rear wiper!
If you need to go budget then the Skoda or Seat badged versions of the up would be a fairer choice. However when every £ counts it's Kia all day long, 7 year warranty, tell me why i'd not want that ?
Talk about out of touch overpaid motor journals🙄. Shocked that a car that costs a "mere" £10K should have decent build quality and performance. For the average punter ten grand is still a big purchase, if I spend that much on a little hatchback you can be damn sure I expect it to be well screwed together. The only sensible thing they said was that they are maybe paying too much for the prestige cars; well duh, of course you are. The car manufacturers love to sell the fashionable top end stuff because the margins are so much bigger than they get for the family hatchback/saloon, where they make pennies. Just because you spend £30K on a car doesn't mean you get three times better than any of these. If you really want value never buy any car new, let someone else break it in with a few thousand miles on the clock then buy it for a lot less than the showroom price. Basic knowledge any shrewdie knows right?
Regardless of the test verdict it proves how much fun it can be to have a slow car that you can drive to it's limits then to have a powerful car that you can barely use any of it's performance on the road without risking your license.
Ive come down from a 2.5 Subaru to a 1.6 Subaru and although its nowhere near as powerful, its a lighter car, more agile and very good to drive. Sounds ace when you get the revs up a bit. Proves its not always about power. Its the experience overall that I like when choosing a car. I have a clean license so far and wish to keep it that way.
After rented the picanto both the auto n the manual i do agree it is just great drive.. The plastics is a bit naf but solid, the manual box has a great feel and less thirstier.. A kia i would not mind owning..
I go buy this car 1200 PK, yes it is a supper car! this car is better because the make the body frame muts stronger voor colisions, so now he drives better! Buy This Car!
I know it's not 100% decisive, because owners play a big role (not taking care of car, having old tires, etc.) but the german TÜV (equivalent to british MOT) ranks the VW Up! at #72 with 5.8% failing the test. The average failure rate for all cars is 5.9%. Now the KIA Picanto is ranked at #47 with a failure rate of 5.3% If we take a look at all competitors of the above video: Dacia Sandero ranked at #121 with 11.0% failure rate Fiat Panda ranked at #115 with 9.3% failure rate Toyota Aygo ranked at #81 with 6.3% failure rate VW Up! ranked at #72 with 5.8% failure rate KIA Picanto ranked at #47 with 5.3% failure rate MG 3 not included in the stats, because it's probably not sold here. Or atleast i haven't seen a single one yet. One of the best performing small cars would be the Opel/Vauxhall Adam which is ranked at #28 with a 4.4% failure rate.
I have a couple of issues with the VW: it's got wanky-looking rear light clusters (which I think will date horribly - they already look like 80s cast-offs) and...it's called "Up!". Rarely has there been a more sh*t name for a car.
The 90bhp up is a proper little warm hatch. Basically it's a VW up GT. The difference between it and the Up GTi is one gear ratio and detuned engine mapping. If you could remap the 90bhp up to 115bhp it would be effectively a GTI. The smart money choice. You can pick them up brand new for £11k...
@@davidwright1605 most people waste money by keep changing their cars. Doesnt anyone understand its more sensible to keep one long term ? Dont play dealers at their own game.
I've got a little Picanto Gt Line (if it's worthy of the GT tag...), it makes sense as a cheap commuter car, costs me the square root of nothing to run. Lots of things I dislike about it and I'd always rather be driving my old Land Rover, but the handling is great - chuck it into bends and it takes commitment to make the tires chirp.. very safe handling little motor and quite entertaining, just keep the engine fizzing.. Dislikes...? The A pillar blind spots, rather asthmatic engine which isn't exceptionally economical and much too light clutch. Otherwise, it actually seems pretty well screwed together and for the money, very well equipped. In two years, it's given absolutely no issues. I also never thought I'd need a reversing camera, but it's brilliant- turn around in the tightest of spaces, effortlessly.
LOL, one car was faster, had a better warranty, has great customer service, has a track record of looking after it's customers if things go wrong, and then there was the other one.
On Asian market, I prefer Kia Picanto over other brands from competitors on the same segment, hatchback segment. Though Kia Philippines only have 5 years of warranty, it was already damn good. Unlike for Toyota Wigo/Agya, an asian hatch, it does feel cheap. Kia is on the durable-premium side. So Kia Picanto is the winner forr me.
Goes to show how fun little cars can be. I love my golf gti but half the time you'll see me in the Mrs' s fiat 500 because it's so much fun to drove a tiny piece of tin with no power!
I did not regret buying my kia picanto and I like the physical look outside and I like the colour chilli red that I got.its so easy to manage and drive.1 year road tax free,3 yrs MOT free and 7 yrs warranty perfect.
We have Mk3 Picanto's in 2 spec Black and 3 spec White both automatics. Came with 3 years servicing. Done 15K miles and tyres and brake pads are only half worn. Clearly a great car.
Another thing to consider is the picanto has disc on all four corners the up has drums on the rear so the picanto stops faster I've ordered the picanto GTS with the 1.0 turbo engine I'll be taking delivery October after testing the up gti and the picanto GTS the Kia was the better car
The Kia was the obvious winner but VW is a more powerful influencial corporation that in my experience has reliability issues with their products. This test was very biased and so, null and void.
I just did basically this in real life ..... except I bought a Fiat500 - way cooler (all subjective) vastly better build quality than expected, great infotainment system (My wife has a Tcross - apple carplay and the VW sometimes fall out with each other and touch screen does not always register the "touch" - Fiat surprisingly perfect) gutless as this level of cars are, but such a laugh to trash - yet copes with a long motorway trip perfectly well enough if needed. So my winner was not even considered ... happy with my choice? - it's why you see so many, it's still a brilliant car ... love it more each day !
Good luck. In the german TÜV (equivalent to british MOT) the Fiat 500 ranks worst out of all above cars. Fiat 500 = 11.3% failure rate Dacia Sandero = 11.0% failure rate Fiat Panda = 9.3% failure rate Toyota Aygo = 6.3% failure rate VW Up! = 5.8% failure rate KIA Picanto = 5.3% failure rate
@@SuperGeronimo999 It's in reality my/our 3rd - my Abarth did 35K miles in the UK no issues whatsoever - my wifes 500 1.3 diesel did 125K miles UK giving no issues other than one door handle became sticky (replaced under warranty) so other than main dealer servicing, it was crazy cheap to run with no issues - arriving in Portugal we wanted a change - so Mrs M has a Tcross, thought we could live with one car, but needed two - again tried not to boringly get the same car, but driving the other things on offer the just do not give you the "grin" a 500 does - you could argue its faults are charming and add to the character - but also we have a great experience with them and this 2019 model is much better built than the 2 UK ones - they are everywhere here, every second hire car is a 500, so not convinced hire companies run cash wasters - just hit 11K in the new one (km) and its 100% fantastic - pop the roof down and amble around in the sun - perfect 😎they are not for everyone, but speak as I find, well made for the price, reliable, cheap yet fun - as an aside I had an X5 Beemer in the UK, never worked useless car knew the recovery drivers by name :) - last car in the UK an M140i, utterly brilliant so all makes have some bad ones - Plus anything not German would not fair in their testing 😂
test that tests exactly nothing but announces a winner, winner of what? two wannaba car show hosts having an opion? this video is waste of internet traffic and storage space on youtubes server.
Kia is a good car, learned to drive in one and now I have the 2015 model automatic and love the way it handles. Seats are comfy and always reliable. 1.2 litre engine handles like a dream
If it’s more fun to drive, has a 7 year warranty and it is ultimately cheaper. The Kia should have won. This is a budget car test. The peace of mind a 7 Year warranty brings when you haven’t got a lot of money. Is hard to ignore. There is still a bit of Brand bias here. That’s my thoughts anyway.
They chose the VW before driving any of them
Yup. I saw this with Motor Trend when they made the Jetta car of the year. It's always obvious when there is a bribe!
@@jayjay378378 Spot on. It stank a bit.
It would have been fairer IMO to compare the 1.0 Kia with the 1.0 60 PS Up! rather than the 1.25 litre Kia. Performance and emissions for both 1.0 litre cars are similar.
@@davidwright1605
But how do they compare on price?
Kia looks better, drives better and longer warranty, but VW win by build quality? What's the point of test in first place?
Opinion, opinion, and truth. So its 1 and one. Why is everyone like you saying its biased obviously there is a bit but lmao the interior of the picanto is no way near as nice as the up!'s I have been driven in both cars and the vw does top it off. How about you shut your whiney ass up and like the video
I have always wondered how and why VW gets to have better build guality. Where I live VW does not get rated to that degree. Kia and Hyundai design and build guality is regarded as fairly high here. So there you go. The badge bias you Brits project is still strong.
Jack Carline Yes I just love seeing tinny metal on the inset of my doors, and no option of inbuilt setnav and no rear opening windows 🤣 #biased
@@MI-Tech Wouldn't surprise me if it costs 200 Euro extra to get the metal painted. It costs 400 Euro extra to be able to connect your smartphone. I think the phone holder alone is 150 Euro. VW's extras book is thicker than the bible. 150 E for painted door mirrors. VW, No Thanks!!!
Jack Carline Kia’s interior is just as good if not better and is much more reliable
U guys clearly liked the Picanto more, but your biasness towards VW is crystal clear. U are shocked that a Korean car can be better than German car. Admit it. 😅
VW makes good cars but Kia has their shit together
The Koreans have been doing this for over a decade with very strong products its no surprise to me.
Lmaoooo
HAving driven both, no, the Up is amazing in terms of its feel. The Kia Picanto is a great car altogether but the feel of the interior and whatnot just is amazing for the price on the up. that plus a really nice gearbox setup if you choose the "slower" 60 hp variant goes a long way. Options end up being roughly the same equipment, i think the Kia was slightly cheaper fully equippied but it comes down to about the same.
NOW, on the used market, the kia has the edge because many are still under warranty while the earlier model Up´s mostly dont and the Up DOES seem to have issues with the gearbox if it wasnt treated well, my Mii soon has 200k on it tho and hasn´t given me any problems other than a dead battery and a rattle with the Nav-holder.
Its a great car altoegther.
There is a ridiculous obsession in the UK for German cars. So many on the roads on PCP lease deals I dont look twice. Im not impressed by any of them. All driven by show offs thinking everyone is looking. What a dreadful self obsessed society.
Looks like paid review.
5:53 "but the VW's superior build quality makes it a better car to live with every day". You didn't do a longterm test, so your conclusion is effectively baseless.
True, how is a stripped out (not even a grab handle) car better to live with?
KIA is more reliable anyways... i know it's not 100% decisive, because owners play a big role (not taking care of car, having old tires, etc.) but the german TÜV (equivalent to british MOT) ranks the VW Up! at #72 with 5.8% failing the test. The average failure rate for all cars is 5.9%. Now the KIA Picanto is ranked at #47 with a failure rate of 5.3%
If we take a look at all competitors of the above video:
Dacia Sandero ranked at #121 with 11.0% failure rate
Fiat Panda ranked at #115 with 9.3% failure rate
Toyota Aygo ranked at #81 with 6.3% failure rate
VW Up! ranked at #72 with 5.8% failure rate
KIA Picanto ranked at #47 with 5.3% failure rate
MG 3 not included in the stats, because it's probably not sold here. Or atleast i haven't seen a single one yet.
One of the best performing small cars would be the Opel Adam (in UK known as Vauxhall) which is ranked at #28 with a 4.4% failure rate.
Superior build quality is a massive over statement . If it is the case why don't VW provide a 7 year warranty. Also you could not spec the VW to the same level as the Kia is not an option. I have owned a Polo not that long ago I liked it but am more Impressed with the Picanto lots of kit fun to drive easy to live with
it is utter bullshite even. I drive a Picanto and a VW UP and believe me, the one with the superior build quality is the Kia. By far. Also, IN the car (where you will be most of the time) it feels very luxorious and complete. Not a piece of metal body visible, and only usage of the best and sturdy materials. The UP feels all plastic and cheap inside.
The Kia picanto is the clear winner.
It even looks way better than the VW which looks so ugly and cheap.
Note book Yup - Kia has proper electric rear windows. VW has those awful non-opening tilt windows.
@@brickmissing8295 It's obvious that the picanto is the winner here, but it seens they had to make VW a winner anyway.
The UP! looks stupid and will be mostly seen in granny blue.
@@fivish And the Picanto will be mostly seen with granny drivers in it
Next time don't drive them around a track if you're going to pick the one that performed better in the parking lot 🙄
More fun. More power. Better looking. And a 7yr warranty!! Kia all the way.
Disqualified the MG because it felt like a more expensive car and had more power. Should have been between the Kia & MG
They forgot to mention the 7 year 80,000 mile warrenty
Include 1.5 MG, then disqualify the MG for having a 1.5 engine?!?
No, because it drank more fuel than any other car.
It’s fuel consumption was higher, as was its emissions. Therefore not economical.
@@brycmtthw that's going off of manufacturer figures 😬 ... I took one out today actually for a test drive and was doing 35 MPG so, it's not like the claim some manufacturers make that is probably 10-15 MPG less than it is in the real world figures.
Picanto
Of course I have two Kia Picanto at home!!! NOT a Volkswagen Up!!! ✌🏻Picanto is so much better than Up!!!
So the slow, rubbish engineered car from one of the shittiest corporations ever to exist wins? Er, no.
I’m a VW fan and VW owner, but even I admit that the Kia was the rightful winner in this test, pity we won’t see either of these in the USA....
You have to sit in both cars and drive them before deciding on the winner. Trust me, you couldn't not give it to the up!.
When you've got two cars that you equally like for different aspects in their character you shouldn't be afraid of declaring joint winners. And say why you'd want one over the other and vice versa. For those interested it gives a more balanced judgement on the cars.
Picanto is a much better-looking car.
Kia is well better...looks better too
The Kia appears to be the clear winner here , yet the VW won due to 'better' quality !?!? despite it looking more basic inside & most people after a new budget car are not bothered if one make is built slightly better than its rivals , purchase price & running costs are what matter here , in this case a 7 year warranty more than compensates , giving you peace of mind that it is going to last.
With a VW Up! the peace of mind comes as standard - no need for a warranty
VW are basic
@@davidwright1605 rubbish!
@Fred Bloggs Why would I research the VW 1.2 TSI engine? It's not used for the VW Up!. The 60ps and 75ps 1.0 l engines used on the Up! are bullet-proof.
I had a Kia picanto for 10years and is exactly what you say even if it was a older model. No issues at all, only wear and tear.
Like you say, it's a blast to drive!
VW is not as good at all, 7 seconds, come on guys!
KIA Picanto also performs better in german TÜV (equivalent to british MOT) which ranks the VW Up! at #72 with 5.8% failing the test. The average failure rate for all cars is 5.9%. Now the KIA Picanto is ranked at #47 with a failure rate of 5.3%
Other results:
Dacia Sandero ranked at #121 with 11.0% failure rate
Fiat Panda ranked at #115 with 9.3% failure rate
Toyota Aygo ranked at #81 with 6.3% failure rate
If I need to downsize to buy a house, I will probably look at the Picanto with low miles on the 1.25. Seems a very very good car.
How is the vw better quality when it has metal on the doors showing?
Pedro Teixeira And non-opening rear windows
@@brickmissing8295 and the picanto's rear windows can even be opened and closed again by the driver of the car, just by the click of buttons.
Metal is stronger than plastic 😜
Ha ha another biased German paid promotion.I have the Kia GT line s and it's leagues above that crappy VW anyday.
I have the citigo Monte Carlo and a picanto GT line s and I can tell you the picanto is the better drive and also has disc breaks all round.The breaks on the Monte Carlo are terrible with drum brakes on the rear.
I would have the Picanto it just looks nicer and comes with more kit
Totally BIASED test. I love 5th Gear but with this particular test, the guys made their minds up about the UP. It was going to win no matter what. Shame on you, Plato and Johnny
Up is better than Picanto?? No, it's not. Shameful. I came here to see which car is better, not worse.
I've never felt like the several Ups I've driven were better put together than the Picantos I've driven. Very specifically not so much better that it would make any significant impact on the "day to day living with". This confuses me a little bit.
Way way too much German car bias throughout the car review industry.. The Kia clearly wins here.
You hit the nail on the head. People today are easily sucked in. Just look at how many German cars there are on the roads on your way to work compared to non German brands. Its becoming silly really. The dealers are laughing at the muppets walking through the door, saddling themselves with huge PCP deals, with balloon payments they will never be able to afford, so if they dont want to lose money they have to trade it in for another expensive new one. Dealers winning again haha.
Kia =more power, fun to drive, better looking, more gadgets, arm rest, hand handle(grip), 7yr warrenty, better in everything so why VW? its your old minded bias thoughts..... Silly n stupid. You just lost your credit frm lot of people around the world.
We have two Picantos, a 2 spec and a 3 spec, both torque converter automatics.
Why have a 'city car' with a clutch? Goes great on the motorway too!
The competition all come with automated manuals which have a very bad reputation for getting through clutches in 30k-40k miles which are not covered by warranty.
Its the only one that comes with an alarm as standard!
The VW will always be very expensive to repair but the Picanti will always be cheap to repair after the 7 year warranty expires.
My sister has an Up! and mum is about to take delivery of a Picanto (with the 3-cyl turbo).
I feel a mother vs. daughter race is on the cards.
The 1litre 3 pot turbo will leave it way behind.
Unless its the VW Gti your sister has no chance
@@simon3225 think the 90tsi up would keep up. Meant to be a really good engine
Ridiculous outcome 🤣 the build in the Kia is vastly superior and best in class as there is no tinny bodywork on the inside of the doors. And if you demand a bit more luxury you can't even get a setnav on the UP a feature even the Aygo has optional. And just like you slammed the aygo for, the up also doesn't have regular rear windows, and is beaten for boot space by the Picanto as well 🤣 And you wonder why some of the audience in the comments think the outcome was a paid add? 😆
The Picanto has a bigger boot and disk brakes all round and electric rear windows! Picanto is the only 'City Car' that comes with a proper torque converter automatic. All the others have the horrible automated manual.
One argument more for never buying a VW anymore: Too much payed reviews.
This video is another example of the German brands fan club. UK roads are filled with Bmw, VW Audi etc. Nothing special about any of them. Its the perception and image that makes them popular because people are sucked in by clever marketing. They think by driving a so called premium car they will be treated differently, as if they are somehow better than everyone else. It never used to be like this. Now its all about image, look at me, posting on instawotsit and feckbook etc dreadful people.
@@oddities-whatnotI wouldn't buy a car just to look good. I would buy one because I like it. German cars (not the entry level ones) are usually faster, prettier and have way better interiors than others.
Vw up does not even have a proper rear window. How practical is that?
I Hate like every car review where the UP shows up it wins all the time, cant believe it... The picanto looks way better, drives better and have a 7 year warrenty. Clearly a paid add..
I bought a Kia Picanto GT recently as a little city run around. It’s brilliant and has apple CarPlay and safety features . I love my Baby Beep!
Bizarre conclusion, you basically said the Kia is better but the VW wins 🤔
How is the VW up better than the kia when the boot is tiny it’s square it has a 3 year warranty but kia does all that it looks nice bigger boot bigger car and has a 7 year Warranty and it’s better built
KIA Picanto wins for me. A Up especially an white color looks like a fridge or a microwave from behind.
Picanto far better looking.
Conclusion could have been given at the start… what a huge disappointment… my current car is an Up, but the next car will def be a Kia.
Because
More power
More warranty
Better drive
More room
Room for 3 in the back instead of 2 in the up
Normal windows in the back
Better build quality fades this all away??? That’s not a test, that’s a Up promo…
Pretty obvious brand bias here, the Picanto is clearly the better car and this is coming from a VW owner (I have a Polo 1.6 mk5 and Golf GTI mk6)
The Up is not quite as sharp sharp looking against the revised Kia Picanto which beats up the Up.
The Picanto is roomier, better to drive, will have lower depreciation, and comes with an astonishing amount of kit, including safety kit, as standard.
Picanto has more HP, more torque, is funnier to drive (they laughted way more during driving the Picanto), has much more gadgets included by the base model, and a longer warranty of 7 years.
The Up build quality do not impress me when you can see bare metal on the inside of the doors. Volkswagen did not even include hard plastic there.
Diesel gate
Biased to VW. I would have had the Kia but if it was in the test Hyundai i10. Very similar to Picanto (same underneath) but somehow the Hyundai feels a better car. So I bought one!
So basically the MG was a good car but its economy let it down ... (I smell bias)... also you forgot to mention the 7 year 80,000 mile warrenty... it shouldve been a choice of the MG, Kia and volkswagen
If its fuel consumption was shit it shouldnt be involved
Ive driven a few MG3’s and they are decent cars for the money.
We use to have a 2015 Skoda citigo Monte Carlo and it was a brilliant car. Replaced it with a bigger car 2 years later and this year got my wife a 2016 Kia picanto. I would say the citigo is a better to drive but the Kia is very close and both nippy. If buying new I would go for the Kia.
Pleased with my 2020 Picanto '3' - more space & equipment than I ever thought I would get; plus, it's very well-built & generally doesn't feel 'cheap' at all. Some plastics in the interior are a bit cheap & cheerful with others looking very good.
1.3 engine was definitely the one to go for, but this seems to have disappeared in the new Picanto. Very stable chassis with good steering, great warranty. I would definitely get another!
Shame about the engine missing from the latest model. There are a few nearly new on Auto Trader with the 1.25 but probably not for long as the cost of petrol keeps going up.
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I own a Citigo, but after watching this I would have chosen the Kia
I have the citigo Monte Carlo and the GT line s picanto and for me the Kia is my fav out of the two.So much better to drive and the handling is awesome.
I had the Citigo new about five years ago, the clutch felt weak and noisy. The UP has the same problem. Doesnt feel like it would last very long. My Subaru on the other hand, the gear change and clutch all feel solid. Lot more confidence in that.
You'd think that the Brits had lost WW2. The Kia was a lot faster & significantly better in a number of respects. But apparently 'snob value' trumps 7 year warranty. As an Aussie of 180 years ago Brit/Anglo descent, I don't get it.
Hell, i am German and i don't get it.
@@SuperGeronimo999 I'm sorry that I was so thoughtless. I've got German in my family. I should know better.
The working out was correct… but the answer was wrong.
How did I know that there was no way that the Kia would trump the VW? oh, the irony .... and with a 7yr warranty to boot!
A biased test. I don’t value their judgments.
What's wrong with the Kia's build quality? The UP has well known engine and gearbox issues. Don't expect them to last more than 100,000km.
KIA is more reliable anyways... i know it's not 100% decisive, because owners play a big role (not taking care of car, having old tires, etc.) but the german TÜV (equivalent to british MOT) ranks the VW Up! at #72 with 5.8% failing the test. The average failure rate for all cars is 5.9%. Now the KIA Picanto is ranked at #47 with a failure rate of 5.3%
If we take a look at all competitors of the above video:
Dacia Sandero ranked at #121 with 11.0% failure rate
Fiat Panda ranked at #115 with 9.3% failure rate
Toyota Aygo ranked at #81 with 6.3% failure rate
VW Up! ranked at #72 with 5.8% failure rate
KIA Picanto ranked at #47 with 5.3% failure rate
MG 3 not included in the stats, because it's probably not sold here. Or atleast i haven't seen a single one yet.
One of the best performing small cars would be the Opel Adam (in UK known as Vauxhall) which is ranked at #28 with a 4.4% failure rate.
Another example of this show's VW bias. They said in almost every category that the KIA was better, but finally they couldn't help themselves giving it to VW. And look at those acres of painted metal on show in the VW! It needs marking down for that. We have the 1 litre turbo Picanto and the only thing I can moan about is the lack of an intermittent setting on the rear wiper!
If you need to go budget then the Skoda or Seat badged versions of the up would be a fairer choice. However when every £ counts it's Kia all day long, 7 year warranty, tell me why i'd not want that ?
Talk about out of touch overpaid motor journals🙄. Shocked that a car that costs a "mere" £10K should have decent build quality and performance. For the average punter ten grand is still a big purchase, if I spend that much on a little hatchback you can be damn sure I expect it to be well screwed together.
The only sensible thing they said was that they are maybe paying too much for the prestige cars; well duh, of course you are. The car manufacturers love to sell the fashionable top end stuff because the margins are so much bigger than they get for the family hatchback/saloon, where they make pennies. Just because you spend £30K on a car doesn't mean you get three times better than any of these.
If you really want value never buy any car new, let someone else break it in with a few thousand miles on the clock then buy it for a lot less than the showroom price. Basic knowledge any shrewdie knows right?
The VW have to go in any case, due to much worse purchase price, reliability and repair costs.
Kia is more practical car .
Regardless of the test verdict it proves how much fun it can be to have a slow car that you can drive to it's limits then to have a powerful car that you can barely use any of it's performance on the road without risking your license.
I had a Galant 2.5L Sport V6 automatic which was very fast.
I now have a Picanto 3 spec automatic. The Picanto is quite fast enough.
Ive come down from a 2.5 Subaru to a 1.6 Subaru and although its nowhere near as powerful, its a lighter car, more agile and very good to drive. Sounds ace when you get the revs up a bit. Proves its not always about power. Its the experience overall that I like when choosing a car. I have a clean license so far and wish to keep it that way.
After rented the picanto both the auto n the manual i do agree it is just great drive.. The plastics is a bit naf but solid, the manual box has a great feel and less thirstier.. A kia i would not mind owning..
Kia Picanto in GT line S spec best all round city car hands down
I have a Sportage GT line and just bought a picanto in white gt line s and what a fantastic little car it is.Far better then the boring VW.
Kia picanto is the best little city car !
The Suzuki Celerio should have won!!!
I go buy this car 1200 PK, yes it is a supper car! this car is better because the make the body frame muts stronger voor colisions, so now he drives better! Buy This Car!
Where is Opel/Vauxhall Karl? VW always needs to win? i am so gonna unsubscribe on Fifth gear...
The Karl is out of production for some time now.
I know it's not 100% decisive, because owners play a big role (not taking care of car, having old tires, etc.) but the german TÜV (equivalent to british MOT) ranks the VW Up! at #72 with 5.8% failing the test. The average failure rate for all cars is 5.9%. Now the KIA Picanto is ranked at #47 with a failure rate of 5.3%
If we take a look at all competitors of the above video:
Dacia Sandero ranked at #121 with 11.0% failure rate
Fiat Panda ranked at #115 with 9.3% failure rate
Toyota Aygo ranked at #81 with 6.3% failure rate
VW Up! ranked at #72 with 5.8% failure rate
KIA Picanto ranked at #47 with 5.3% failure rate
MG 3 not included in the stats, because it's probably not sold here. Or atleast i haven't seen a single one yet.
One of the best performing small cars would be the Opel/Vauxhall Adam which is ranked at #28 with a 4.4% failure rate.
@@SuperGeronimo999 MGs are not yet on sale outside the UK.
Thought so, thanks!
Well didn’t get that final result
Anyone watching this video knows what the winner is. The result is not justified. The Kia has almost the same power as the UP Gti!
Shity rasist disqualification...
Aygo is fantastic car. Don't expect it to be spacious because these are not big family car.
Aygo is ugly and stupid.
how can you not like the dacia sandero? DISLIKE
I have a couple of issues with the VW: it's got wanky-looking rear light clusters (which I think will date horribly - they already look like 80s cast-offs) and...it's called "Up!". Rarely has there been a more sh*t name for a car.
The length of the name "up" reflects the length of the list of optional extras
Haha well funny
The 90bhp up is a proper little warm hatch. Basically it's a VW up GT. The difference between it and the Up GTi is one gear ratio and detuned engine mapping. If you could remap the 90bhp up to 115bhp it would be effectively a GTI. The smart money choice. You can pick them up brand new for £11k...
I must have missed the bit where they rejected the Aygo. Did they not get told about what seemed like an error in the editing of the last video?
50 second
Chose a VW over a Kia with 7 year warranty. Dumb.
Drive them and see. I'd choose the Up! for a variety of reasons, some covered in this upload.
Most people don't keep their cars for seven years. And if you do you kind of end up paying for the warranty through dealer servicing costs.
@@davidwright1605 don't need to get it services at a dealer.
Image is more important to most people these days. Very sad really.
@@davidwright1605 most people waste money by keep changing their cars. Doesnt anyone understand its more sensible to keep one long term ? Dont play dealers at their own game.
Not a fair comparison between the Kia and the Volkswagen you should of used the 1.0 tsi Up!
Its city cars under 10k so its perfectly fare if it was over that they could of used a Picanto GT Line S Turbo which is even better
That Up! won on badge appeal
The UP! looks ugly and stupid.
Well there is a lot of brexit right now. All the germans cars are now bad cars. Do you think we are stupid!
I've got a little Picanto Gt Line (if it's worthy of the GT tag...), it makes sense as a cheap commuter car, costs me the square root of nothing to run. Lots of things I dislike about it and I'd always rather be driving my old Land Rover, but the handling is great - chuck it into bends and it takes commitment to make the tires chirp.. very safe handling little motor and quite entertaining, just keep the engine fizzing..
Dislikes...? The A pillar blind spots, rather asthmatic engine which isn't exceptionally economical and much too light clutch. Otherwise, it actually seems pretty well screwed together and for the money, very well equipped. In two years, it's given absolutely no issues. I also never thought I'd need a reversing camera, but it's brilliant- turn around in the tightest of spaces, effortlessly.
The picanto was faster and more fun therefore the winner is... the up! What?
Brown envelope
Not a flattering thumbnail gentlemen.
LOL, one car was faster, had a better warranty, has great customer service, has a track record of looking after it's customers if things go wrong, and then there was the other one.
Picanto is better even in practicality
KIA rocks!
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like watching fast and furious
On Asian market, I prefer Kia Picanto over other brands from competitors on the same segment, hatchback segment. Though Kia Philippines only have 5 years of warranty, it was already damn good. Unlike for Toyota Wigo/Agya, an asian hatch, it does feel cheap. Kia is on the durable-premium side. So Kia Picanto is the winner forr me.
1:28 hé gets in the Kia but they show the meters of the Up!
Oof
Didnt notice that tbh and ive watched this before and now for a second time
Goes to show how fun little cars can be. I love my golf gti but half the time you'll see me in the Mrs' s fiat 500 because it's so much fun to drove a tiny piece of tin with no power!
Picanto won
BRAND BIAS INDEED. SO SORRY, VW, YOU LOST!
180 on the motorway the little picanto it is a gem
I did not regret buying my kia picanto and I like the physical look outside and I like the colour chilli red that I got.its so easy to manage and drive.1 year road tax free,3 yrs MOT free and 7 yrs warranty perfect.
We have Mk3 Picanto's in 2 spec Black and 3 spec White both automatics.
Came with 3 years servicing. Done 15K miles and tyres and brake pads are only half worn. Clearly a great car.
Uno & Myseru... Every car is 3 years MOT free, although govt. were thinking of making it 4 but decided it needed the money.
spider at 2:56
Another thing to consider is the picanto has disc on all four corners the up has drums on the rear so the picanto stops faster I've ordered the picanto GTS with the 1.0 turbo engine I'll be taking delivery October after testing the up gti and the picanto GTS the Kia was the better car
The Kia was the obvious winner but VW is a more powerful influencial corporation that in my experience has reliability issues with their products. This test was very biased and so, null and void.
I just did basically this in real life ..... except I bought a Fiat500 - way cooler (all subjective) vastly better build quality than expected, great infotainment system (My wife has a Tcross - apple carplay and the VW sometimes fall out with each other and touch screen does not always register the "touch" - Fiat surprisingly perfect) gutless as this level of cars are, but such a laugh to trash - yet copes with a long motorway trip perfectly well enough if needed. So my winner was not even considered ... happy with my choice? - it's why you see so many, it's still a brilliant car ... love it more each day !
Good luck. In the german TÜV (equivalent to british MOT) the Fiat 500 ranks worst out of all above cars.
Fiat 500 = 11.3% failure rate
Dacia Sandero = 11.0% failure rate
Fiat Panda = 9.3% failure rate
Toyota Aygo = 6.3% failure rate
VW Up! = 5.8% failure rate
KIA Picanto = 5.3% failure rate
@@SuperGeronimo999 It's in reality my/our 3rd - my Abarth did 35K miles in the UK no issues whatsoever - my wifes 500 1.3 diesel did 125K miles UK giving no issues other than one door handle became sticky (replaced under warranty) so other than main dealer servicing, it was crazy cheap to run with no issues - arriving in Portugal we wanted a change - so Mrs M has a Tcross, thought we could live with one car, but needed two - again tried not to boringly get the same car, but driving the other things on offer the just do not give you the "grin" a 500 does - you could argue its faults are charming and add to the character - but also we have a great experience with them and this 2019 model is much better built than the 2 UK ones - they are everywhere here, every second hire car is a 500, so not convinced hire companies run cash wasters - just hit 11K in the new one (km) and its 100% fantastic - pop the roof down and amble around in the sun - perfect 😎they are not for everyone, but speak as I find, well made for the price, reliable, cheap yet fun - as an aside I had an X5 Beemer in the UK, never worked useless car knew the recovery drivers by name :) - last car in the UK an M140i, utterly brilliant so all makes have some bad ones - Plus anything not German would not fair in their testing 😂
I just got a 2013 UP! And I love it! It is such a nice little run around panda spec car.
You eliminated the panda cross due to ride quality. Panda cross is an off roader! Like comparing a defender with a jaguar.
Test drive the UP GTI :)
Superior build quality but no grab handles 😳🤦🏽♂️
test that tests exactly nothing but announces a winner, winner of what? two wannaba car show hosts having an opion? this video is waste of internet traffic and storage space on youtubes server.
Kia is a good car, learned to drive in one and now I have the 2015 model automatic and love the way it handles. Seats are comfy and always reliable. 1.2 litre engine handles like a dream
you should try the 75 hp up version...
you should try the 100 hp Picanto
Get a WRX STI
The Kia is a better looking car and outperformed the VW, so I don't get the VW coming out on top.
VW better build quality? Here in Australia, VW have a terrible reputation for reliability. Kia do not.