Electrifying the water is not "poisoning" it. Also, there are some fishing companies that catch the carp and ship them cleaned and frozen back to Asia where they are accustomed to eating these fish, they actually prefer the Asian carp from the USA.
@@IamGoen It amazes me how some people can not think beyond their optic nerves, not all places in the world use electricity to rid themselves of invasive fish.
The introduction of the carp was even worse than described. They were meant to just clean up the retainment ponds at nuclear power plant sites. It was known that they had the potential to be massively invasive. But when the plants were decommissioned, the measures used to stop them from spreading into the Mississippi watershed were no longer exercised.
I watched the documentary on this to stop invasive fish from contaminating other lakes, it's really an interesting concept that works. Poisoning the water is a hazard for everything that relies on the the water so electricity is safer.
We've done that here in Australia, but it has its limitations. Apart from being bony, carp aren't good eating because they don't taste very good as they digest lots of mud, something Asians overcome by using strong spices!
you clearly have no idea how modern ag industrial complex works, at best you'd get the republicans to come up with billions in welfare to fund a few test plots on a millionaire landowner's cash rent op, in the meantime, a pipeline is being crammed down peoples throats to carry all the pollution from the ethanol and fertilizer plants the same republicans denied existed to pipe under ground in a carbon capture scam that will also cost the tax payers millions, and probably billions in the end.
That's what the Native Americans used to do. It's a relatively simple and extremely effective and eco friendly solution. Of course we'd be quite a bit cleaner and more efficient that simply including 2 fish with each plant. The trick would be economically separating the carp from native fish species.
Yes, we can make Fish Amino Acid (FAA) out of waste fish or its entrails. Excellent fertilizer when used as foliar or basal fertilizer. It must be diluted first before application
When will people learn to leave nature alone? How many ecosystems have been destroyed because people interfered and introduced new species to an ecosystem to which they didn't belong?
Don’t blame China Because; capitalism. Someone is always going to be looking for a way to profit by a “quick fix” with no consideration for the future.
We went through this part of the river in JULY 2004 while doing the Great Loop. No problem, just follow the rules. We saw many carp jumping out of the water ahead and behind our boat because of engine noise I guess. Quite a sight. None landed on our deck but lot's of fishermen in smaller vessels were catching them with nets. This is nature out of control.
Pollock caught in the Bering sea off Alaska used to be used for cat food. Because cod were overfished, pollock now is the fish used to make fish sandwiches at McDonalds. Using these carp for cat food is a good and natural solution to this problem.
Apart from being bony, carp aren't good eating because they don't taste very good as they digest lots of mud, something Asians overcome by using strong spices! So unless your cat likes curried fish, it'll probably just turn its nose up at any carp you dish up!
@@gaglikabar They will wait around for the opposite sex to drift in. Some fish can change sex. However, I do not think the Asian and grass carp are not among them.
Not sure why the fisheries department aren't involved. They could be harvesting the Asian Carp, canning it & selling it as economical food for consumption. Am sure the poor, homeless & hungry would appreciate it. Macdonald's could be selling cheap fishburgers.
They're very bony and often taste pretty bad depending on area and diet, which is extensive. They could still be economically viable, but probably not for consumption by people.
Ok I really don't see how this would harm or kill humans. Being a retired electrician I know a few things about the subject . I not sure exactly what they are doing but they are only energizing it with 2.3 volts a doorbell transformer is 24 volts you can not feel a shock from 24 v. no muscle contraction nothing. I have felt shocks at 48 volts when I was sweaty and bumped into a phone punch down block when someone on that block was getting a call the bell runs on 48 v. Now when you get above that voltage it's another ball game . The amperage is what kills though it only takes milliamps in milliseconds to do the job. The voltage is the push to get the current through the wire and high enough it can blow body parts off and holes in bodies but the current is what kills. At any rate I would find another swimming hole.
The narrator is sort of mis-speaking by only saying "2.5 volts." It's actually 2.5 volts per centimeter of length of whatever swims into the field.These barriers typically run a 1500 watt field, DC, pulsed at 5,000 Hertz...impedance of wet human skin is only 100 Ohm...so a 6 ft tall man (180cm) would feel about 108,000 watts.
The effect is proportional to the length of the organism, so stronger on bigger, longer organisms (such as humans.) In order to deter the smaller organisms the fields have to be relatively higher than to deter the larger critters, e.g., harmful for larger organisms. Fish can definitely sense this and if current is not too strong, avoid it. Stronger fields can cause involuntary muscle contraction.
I was wondering when someone would notice the 2.5 volts as being rediculously low. Although I wonder if you couldn't feel 2.5 volts in water, and I think that fish could feel it, it just wouldn't be harmful. Think about a 9 volt battery accross the tongue, pretty strong.
In Australia I would guess that most of the fish mass throughout most of the country in European carp. Quite often if you are fishing the only fish that you will catch are carp. The carp are bigger than most freshwater species in Australia and laying up to a million eggs in a year has helped them absolutely decimate other species across Australia.
so... that's like saying we're trying to evolve criminals by electrocution. -perhaps in the DC Marvel universes, but not quite applicable in this context.
@ndantony yes your 100 percent c o rrect ! They will become immune Like pes I cides and insects. That's how evolution realy works creatures become immune The rest dye off
And you wonder why your power grid sneeds another upgrade.........wait for it...wait for it... EV cars mandate will require even more upgrades!!!! and people still wont have enuff for constant power to your homes and utilities
@@chrisbraid2907 glad I live in Midwest in s,mall town my utilities just upgraded ALL substations and in my correspondence with the utility supv in the case of their summer constant surging as they fired new off I lost my stove refrigerator computer panels and my de ice cycle on spare freezer!!!! These new substations only run 60% duty if another fails they can switch in milliseconds to one station until repaired If not for my insurance those items would cost us 10000$ but the utility admitted it was happening all over town and I did not need an adjuster out cause appliance repair sales verified damages and repairs could been as much as replace
People eat them in Asia and to be honest I've eaten them and they have a very mild taste not fishy at all clean white meat but Americans are lazy and labeled them trash because they have bones and we want boneless fillets and the bones aren't small pin bones but rather large,try it you just might like it
@@James-rm2pz Sounds familiar when Pilchard became unfashionable after ww2 in UK they started calling them Tuna . Both condemned for no better reason than being too bountiful.
Didn't you see that boat spread poison to kill all the fishes and wildlife in the water initially before they applied the electricity? And they did it again and again.
Even if it wasn't electrified the undercurrent of the Chicago River will kill you. On some parts the river it's so strong that a Olympic swimmer can drown. /I fell in it once and it will make your body go horizontal. Luckily I was able to hang on to a branch and my friend helped me out.
Isn't it ridiculous how much money the introduction of this invasive species (the asian carp )has cost our country ,it ranks right up there with emerald ash borers,and chinese chestnuts, which led to the ruin of the chestnut lumber industry and the near extinction of the American chestnut tree, Aren't chinese imports great
Turn it into a plus. Good eatin’, good animal food, good fertilizer. Carp were first imported from Europe for sport fishing. Asian carp should be just as good.
I haven't been able to drink coffee for over 15 years now due to a medical condition. I literally woke up every morning excited for that first cup!! Your intro is driving nuts for a cup!!😂 It's the little things!! I can smell it!! 😊 ❤ that!!
@@DennisLock-x8f They are still invasive to the US, no matter where they are located they were originally introduced as a subspecies called razorbacks from Europe in 1500s. The difference between wild hogs and farmed hogs is a price tag, not the environmental damage they cause, through feces, food consumption, and disease spread.
A good sauce will cure the taste problem but the bones make them unpopular especially when better quality fish is available. In Asia, everything is over exploited so they use everything they have regardless of quality.
One of favorite fish in Asia, my friend in Nepal loves to eat this fish...😊😊😊 he call this rojo.. i think it's for aquarium only but i try to eat also and it taste good fish curry 😊❤❤❤
using them as food should be fine if they taste alright. i dont see a problem with using them as a mcdonalds filet o fish since thats just minced pollock anyways.
@@LeafaR11They have a strong fish taste many bones hard to seperate from the fish. I have heard of them being pickled and canned like herring and the smaller bones dissolve. I have thought of doing that. They are too easy to catch. They jump right in the boat!
There is something "carpy" in this video: at least three times: at Minutes 6:01, 12:50 and 14:50 your animations and video scenes clearly show Common / European carp. These are also considered an invasive species but very (unfortunately) introduced to the States by US Government action in the late 19th century and are present in the Great lakes since then. They never gained the popularity as a sports and food fish as in Central Europe (and with the Jewish Community) and are also responsible for giving carp a bad name in the USA. Common carp also do not regularly jump at boaters and are primarily bottom feeders
I heard that someone brought them over to take care of some Algae in some ponds down south And there was a flood, and they spilled into the Mississippi, if they're not gonna eat them, they will they'll make great fertilizer, and that could be hugely profitable
why do not they catch them with big nets and take them to special shallow pools where they sort them. So some good fish will be returned to the river while the bad fish will be used to feed people with cheap protein or to feed animals.
let me get this straight. a constant electrical barrier is considered cheaper than creating a mound of dirt and a lift to move boats over the mound of dirt?? Did dirt get expensive somehow?
I think it's the bottleneck of a type of locke system with not enough time for that many carriers to get thru and arrive at destinations as scheduled. The changes in arrivals affects the delivery system also from destination.
“No one will try to save you” I have been a paramedic for 20 years with a majority of that in IL. We would save you and that device to meant for the fish to avoid swimming down the waterway, you would see a bunch of dead fish everywhere if that was the case. You would also see more barriers around the water instead of signs. So climatic.
This is interesting… considering that not long ago, the factories around the Great Lakes were dumping toxic waste into the waters. In the 80s the Great Lakes was considered a toxic cocktail. The fishes survived n thrived, but had a dangerous level of contamination. Has that changed? So the fishes are safe to be consumed, at your own risk? … I think it is a waste of financial resources, when the funds could be spent on something more… like education & property elevation
@@Stonerbrom-r1e Fish are smaller and their bodies conduct electricity differently compared to humans. The electric field is designed to stun them without causing permanent harm. For Humans Larger Body Mass: Humans have a larger body mass compared to fish, and the electrical current can travel through a human body more extensively, potentially causing severe harm. Cardiac and Nervous System: The electric field can interfere with the human cardiac and nervous systems more significantly. Even a brief exposure to a high-voltage electric field can result in serious injuries or fatalities for humans, including cardiac arrest or severe burns. Conductivity and Duration: The duration of exposure and the conductive properties of water increase the risk. Humans are more likely to experience continuous exposure to the electric field if they fall into the water, leading to more severe effects.
Is that straight out of their brochure? Im Pretty sure I can handle more volts than a little fish, a police taser is 50.000v! Yea you end up on the floor twitching and it hurts like ..... but your alive. But when it comes to electric, it's the amps that kill you not volts. What's the amp on the thing?
@@EricMcConnaughey Yeah, corporates don't want lower profits even if increasing and maintaining infrastructure ultimately gives the corp longevity of profits. Maybe too used to feds bailing them out when the dangers are great.
Sir , The problem with the Asian Carp in USA , is that because it is so much bony that it is unsuitable for American pallette . Why not extensively harvest the fish and export to Asian Countries , to get foreign exchange . Alternatively , pulverize the fish and use it for pig and poultry feed . Bigger size fish ( above 6 pounds ) have thicker bones , which can be picked clean , and suitable for American pallette . Australian method of medical poisoning , is debatable , it has rendered all wild rabbits unfit for consumption , and now , fish . Electric Barrier , is still the best option .
Nothing the stream is not solid enough for it to travel through to your weenie. Myth busters did cover this in slow motion, the stream is broken up so nothing passes through.
This video makes it sound like the electrical obstruction is deadly to humans all by itself. It's not. According to the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign, the lowest electrical resistance of human flesh (wet or dry) is about 300 ohms. Even wet skin is higher than that, around 1000 ohms. At 300 ohms, 2.3 volts, can cause 7.6 milliamps to flow. According to Scientific Journal of Control Engineering, that's only *barely* in the AC-3 range, which can cause some muscle contraction. But only when exposed long-term. The odds of being killed by those low levels of shock alone are miniscule. So why the scary signs? Simple: the danger comes from the fact that to get shocked, you'd have to be swimming. If someone is particularly susceptible to electric shock, and is immersed in the water, it's possible, though unlikely, their muscles may contract. If they are not a strong swimmer, these contractions could be bad enough to cause trouble swimming, and potentially drowning.
So, what happens when the next regional power outage happens? Given the numbers of fish shown, I wouldn't be surprised to see a fair number of fish get past the electrified spots.
Carp are very full of fine bone's, actually kind of tasty. But slow cook in foil on a grill, or smoke them very long, meat just fall off the bone. Old trick black folks taught me is just put them through a meat grinder and make patties.
I keep hearing 2.3 volts. I'm trying to figure out how that would influence the human nervous system. The only thing I can come up with is that if the water is conductive enough, there would be a massive current flow that would overwhelm the skin barrier. That doesn't seem at all likely, but what do I know?
Ah, I understand more now. Asian Carp have a sensitivity to electric fields, and that keeps them away. The prohibition comes from the electrification of the shoreline. A human passing through would be fine, just facing the heavy fine.
2:11 dont you mean 2.3 kilovolts? edit:ok so i did s google search and apparently its indeed a few volts,but i dont think this can kill a person that falls into the canal idk
I worked around low voltage for most of my work career and never was zapped, but did feel a tingling on 50v and sometimes even lower if my hands were wet or sweaty. I would imagine the whole body being subjected to even a low voltage would affect the nervous system. Dry skin is a pretty good insulator but when it is wet that changes. I’ve never put a 9v battery on my tongue, but they say it’s not a good feeling.
True esting such organisms can truly sicken.the energy of entire members of areas that still have not fully emptied down the water levels to acceptant globally keeping from destruction of flooding and Restrain upon the entirety of style like areas of eras of traditional sense.
Peace. It is written: We shall be held responsible for every life extinguished to serve our purposes. Sky, Earth, waters. Our Creator intended every environ to be habitated by life forms. To wastefully obliterate lives... Have doubts claiming waters were man-made will have much perduasion. Peace.
@@TK-593 Peace. Thank you for reply! Query is so brief, am not exactly sure of being able to adequately respond. In observation, someone thinks to produce things. Manipulates physical world to manifest thoughts. A, 'Creator' is not a, 'what'. They are, 'who'. Each of us is maturing over time. Physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually. Am aware vast varieties of, 'creators' have been known to mankind's members. Everything that is natural, i.e., water, plants, animals, celestials, natural gases, exist because a Creator thought to bring these physical forms into existence. Including us. That Creator. Peace.
@@gloriagarza6823 Creator might be a dude like you and me, scratching his ass, looking at a screen running this universe. Might not even be his favorite screen to look at.
@@gloriagarza6823 That is a long list of claims. Do you have any evidence to demonstrate that any of those things were in fact created. Even if you do, how did you determine they were created by a "who"?
Apart from being bony, carp aren't good eating because they don't taste very good as they digest lots of mud, something Asians overcome by using strong spices!
Who's going to stop that one guy that ruins everything from introducing the carp directly to the lakes just because? And I'm fairly certian that 2.5 volts isn't enough voltage to affect us unless I completely missed something.
Electrifying the water is not "poisoning" it. Also, there are some fishing companies that catch the carp and ship them cleaned and frozen back to Asia where they are accustomed to eating these fish, they actually prefer the Asian carp from the USA.
@@IamGoen It amazes me how some people can not think beyond their optic nerves, not all places in the world use electricity to rid themselves of invasive fish.
The introduction of the carp was even worse than described. They were meant to just clean up the retainment ponds at nuclear power plant sites. It was known that they had the potential to be massively invasive. But when the plants were decommissioned, the measures used to stop them from spreading into the Mississippi watershed were no longer exercised.
Thank you for saving 15:30 min of my life.
so okay it floods you think the invasive species give a dam there goin for new ground because they get washed out.
Lots to learn ,in life ,is worthwhile
Human kind destroys everything. Worst cancer on earth.
Actually they were used in fish farms to clean the water and consume aquatic plants.
I watched the documentary on this to stop invasive fish from contaminating other lakes, it's really an interesting concept that works. Poisoning the water is a hazard for everything that relies on the the water so electricity is safer.
Maybe farmers could use it for fertilizer instead of chemicals
Now thats a dam great idea we could cut the use of poison bigtime ! we need to get rid of these suit n tie guys n put regular people in these jobs !
We've done that here in Australia, but it has its limitations.
Apart from being bony, carp aren't good eating because they don't taste very good as they digest lots of mud, something Asians overcome by using strong spices!
you clearly have no idea how modern ag industrial complex works, at best you'd get the republicans to come up with billions in welfare to fund a few test plots on a millionaire landowner's cash rent op, in the meantime, a pipeline is being crammed down peoples throats to carry all the pollution from the ethanol and fertilizer plants the same republicans denied existed to pipe under ground in a carbon capture scam that will also cost the tax payers millions, and probably billions in the end.
That's what the Native Americans used to do. It's a relatively simple and extremely effective and eco friendly solution. Of course we'd be quite a bit cleaner and more efficient that simply including 2 fish with each plant. The trick would be economically separating the carp from native fish species.
Yes, we can make Fish Amino Acid (FAA) out of waste fish or its entrails. Excellent fertilizer when used as foliar or basal fertilizer. It must be diluted first before application
When will people learn to leave nature alone? How many ecosystems have been destroyed because people interfered and introduced new species to an ecosystem to which they didn't belong?
I agree. There has got to be a reason for it. Nature works itself out.
Another gift from China
Don’t blame China
Because; capitalism. Someone is always going to be looking for a way to profit by a “quick fix” with no consideration for the future.
😔so true.. saddest things
We got Constrictors/Pythons in the Everglades now because of irresponsible snake owners dumping them in the swamps.
Pretty solid idea especially considering the damage invasive species cause. Too bad they didn't think of it sooner bc it's too late for many places.
We went through this part of the river in JULY 2004 while doing the Great Loop. No problem, just follow the rules. We saw many carp jumping out of the water ahead and behind our boat because of engine noise I guess. Quite a sight. None landed on our deck but lot's of fishermen in smaller vessels were catching them with nets. This is nature out of control.
should of left carp in there own country dam it
It's not natural...
Since when is electricity considered poison?
It's not, they used poison first. When that didn't work, the electric barriers were installed
@@slayerfreak8279 Not all places use electricity.
they did the poison first then the electric barrier .
@@raymondj8768 👍
Those yellow barrels weren't full of electricity!
They Should turn the fish into Cat Food. Cats love it and it will avoid waste while helping the environment.
It’s been electrified. Not safe
Electrified fish are safe to eat.
Pollock caught in the Bering sea off Alaska used to be used for cat food. Because cod were overfished, pollock now is the fish used to make fish sandwiches at McDonalds. Using these carp for cat food is a good and natural solution to this problem.
@@PetTimelapsewhy wouldn't it be safe? Not sure seems like it would be
Apart from being bony, carp aren't good eating because they don't taste very good as they digest lots of mud, something Asians overcome by using strong spices! So unless your cat likes curried fish, it'll probably just turn its nose up at any carp you dish up!
Only two Asian Carp made it through the barrier. I named one Adam and the other Eve.
what about if both male or female?
@@gaglikabar They will wait around for the opposite sex to drift in. Some fish can change sex. However, I do not think the Asian and grass carp are not among them.
What if both were pregnant females? 🤕🤕🤕
@@gaglikabar They would be democrat !! 😅😅😅
🤣
Not sure why the fisheries department aren't involved. They could be harvesting the Asian Carp, canning it & selling it as economical food for consumption. Am sure the poor, homeless & hungry would appreciate it. Macdonald's could be selling cheap fishburgers.
It must be that it would affect the fish industry negatively.
Ever eaten carp? It tastes like mud.
@@marcussmart3275 Asians love it.
They're very bony and often taste pretty bad depending on area and diet, which is extensive. They could still be economically viable, but probably not for consumption by people.
@@kertbert1I think those carp eat a slightly different diet😂
Asian carp. Huge problem.
Asia crap. Temu
YES! Highly invasive and destructive species!
"Asians carp: huge probrem" sounds a litlle more correct 😂
Open asian restaurants near by,
All you can eat as long as you can catch.
That would solve the problem 😂
Delicious spicy
@@jesseshort8 Asian crap. Huge temu
Ok I really don't see how this would harm or kill humans. Being a retired electrician I know a few things about the subject . I not sure exactly what they are doing but they are only energizing it with 2.3 volts a doorbell transformer is 24 volts you can not feel a shock from 24 v. no muscle contraction nothing. I have felt shocks at 48 volts when I was sweaty and bumped into a phone punch down block when someone on that block was getting a call the bell runs on 48 v. Now when you get above that voltage it's another ball game . The amperage is what kills though it only takes milliamps in milliseconds to do the job. The voltage is the push to get the current through the wire and high enough it can blow body parts off and holes in bodies but the current is what kills. At any rate I would find another swimming hole.
The narrator is sort of mis-speaking by only saying "2.5 volts." It's actually 2.5 volts per centimeter of length of whatever swims into the field.These barriers typically run a 1500 watt field, DC, pulsed at 5,000 Hertz...impedance of wet human skin is only 100 Ohm...so a 6 ft tall man (180cm) would feel about 108,000 watts.
Thank you. I was looking for that clarification. @@ronaldstewart6332
The effect is proportional to the length of the organism, so stronger on bigger, longer organisms (such as humans.) In order to deter the smaller organisms the fields have to be relatively higher than to deter the larger critters, e.g., harmful for larger organisms. Fish can definitely sense this and if current is not too strong, avoid it. Stronger fields can cause involuntary muscle contraction.
Agree. Fish are easily stunned by electricity. Amperage kills voltage does not.
I was wondering when someone would notice the 2.5 volts as being rediculously low. Although I wonder if you couldn't feel 2.5 volts in water, and I think that fish could feel it, it just wouldn't be harmful. Think about a 9 volt battery accross the tongue, pretty strong.
They should be using these fish for cat food !
That's a great idea! You should start a business that will process the fish. Make millions!
Yeap thats what I was thinking too. Not specifically cats, but maybe livestock like pigs.
And the cats as dog food!
And we already know who eats the dogs.🤣Don't we? Love that food chain.
Fish meal fertilizer. It's what plants crave. It has electorites.
Mmm huhh.
In Australia I would guess that most of the fish mass throughout most of the country in European carp. Quite often if you are fishing the only fish that you will catch are carp. The carp are bigger than most freshwater species in Australia and laying up to a million eggs in a year has helped them absolutely decimate other species across Australia.
So looking at another angle, they are helping these carps to evolve to be even stronger and immune to electricity.
For sure
so... that's like saying we're trying to evolve criminals by electrocution.
-perhaps in the DC Marvel universes, but not quite applicable in this context.
@ndantony yes your 100 percent c o rrect ! They will become immune
Like pes I cides and insects. That's how evolution realy works creatures become immune
The rest dye off
@@davidvalenta9394 No. Unless you think human from grow to maturity and giving birth to hundreds within months.
@@ndantony
I think that happens in Los Angeles.
This would be a great opportunity to offer a cash prize to inventive people companies and technical universities
Remember the cobras in India? You don't want to open that can of worms.
No way a university could do something benificel,im sure it would have to be woke
And you wonder why your power grid sneeds another upgrade.........wait for it...wait for it... EV cars mandate will require even more upgrades!!!! and people still wont have enuff for constant power to your homes and utilities
Homes are the bottom of the energy chain, just below Hospitals … get your own power !
@@chrisbraid2907 glad I live in Midwest in s,mall town my utilities just upgraded ALL substations and in my correspondence with the utility supv in the case of their summer constant surging as they fired new off I lost my stove refrigerator computer panels and my de ice cycle on spare freezer!!!! These new substations only run 60% duty if another fails they can switch in milliseconds to one station until repaired
If not for my insurance those items would cost us 10000$ but the utility admitted it was happening all over town and I did not need an adjuster out cause appliance repair sales verified damages and repairs could been as much as replace
It is absolutely imperative that the Asian carp be prevented from entering the Great Lakes. Period!
Need the same for our southern border...
Always worth a watch .
What keeps them in balance in Asia.
Chinese fishing trawlers.
Asian tiger fish.
People eat them in Asia and to be honest I've eaten them and they have a very mild taste not fishy at all clean white meat but Americans are lazy and labeled them trash because they have bones and we want boneless fillets and the bones aren't small pin bones but rather large,try it you just might like it
@@James-rm2pz Sounds familiar when Pilchard became unfashionable after ww2 in UK they started calling them Tuna .
Both condemned for no better reason than being too bountiful.
Billions of Chinese
STOP CALLING IT A POISONING - GEEZ!
Didn't you see that boat spread poison to kill all the fishes and wildlife in the water initially before they applied the electricity? And they did it again and again.
You need investigate this more 2.3 volts will not kill you I doubt if you even feel it unless you're a fish
We put up this border to stop fish from coming in but leave our borders open
Even if it wasn't electrified the undercurrent of the Chicago River will kill you. On some parts the river it's so strong that a Olympic swimmer can drown.
/I fell in it once and it will make your body go horizontal. Luckily I was able to hang on to a branch and my friend helped me out.
Electricity is not poison
@@growdocprofesser6105 In some places they use poison to kill the fish.
They poisoned the water twice before installing the electric barrier. It's in the video.
Isn't it ridiculous how much money the introduction of this invasive species (the asian carp )has cost our country ,it ranks right up there with emerald ash borers,and chinese chestnuts, which led to the ruin of the chestnut lumber industry and the near extinction of the American chestnut tree, Aren't chinese imports great
Turn it into a plus. Good eatin’, good animal food, good fertilizer. Carp were first imported from Europe for sport fishing. Asian carp should be just as good.
Don't know about the other 2 but I heard carp taste horrible. Also that goldfish are a type of carp.
Frat boys with hockey masks and tridents…the last line of defense.
I haven't been able to drink coffee for over 15 years now due to a medical condition. I literally woke up every morning excited for that first cup!! Your intro is driving nuts for a cup!!😂 It's the little things!! I can smell it!! 😊 ❤ that!!
Fish eggs and small fish are introduced to any body of water by waterbirds.
If they wouldn't poison the fish they would feed a lot of people or hogs or make some good fertilizer.
Hogs are invasive too.
@@RayF6126 Was speaking of farm raised hogs not feral.
@@DennisLock-x8f They are still invasive to the US, no matter where they are located they were originally introduced as a subspecies called razorbacks from Europe in 1500s. The difference between wild hogs and farmed hogs is a price tag, not the environmental damage they cause, through feces, food consumption, and disease spread.
i never understood why Americans don't eat carps but is 100% ok with eating Catfish
Bones and a fatty meat
That is because Carp is really boney and is bland tasting. Catfish on the other hand can be filleted removing the bones and tastes good.
The amount of bones in the Asian carp is why no one eats them. Very very boney.
It is an invasive species and is taking over the area and alot of native species of fish are dying out because of the invasive species
A good sauce will cure the taste problem but the bones make them unpopular especially when better quality fish is available. In Asia, everything is over exploited so they use everything they have regardless of quality.
Carp taste awful. Use them as fertilizer.
One of favorite fish in Asia, my friend in Nepal loves to eat this fish...😊😊😊 he call this rojo.. i think it's for aquarium only but i try to eat also and it taste good fish curry 😊❤❤❤
using them as food should be fine if they taste alright. i dont see a problem with using them as a mcdonalds filet o fish since thats just minced pollock anyways.
I heard they taste excellent. It’s just that they have a lot of y-bones when filleting
Carp tastes amazing...
@@LeafaR11They have a strong fish taste many bones hard to seperate from the fish. I have heard of them being pickled and canned like herring and the smaller bones dissolve. I have thought of doing that. They are too easy to catch. They jump right in the boat!
The native Americans used fish to fertilize crops. May I suggest how to use these harmful fish?
@@MomeGnome why would you want to keep a useless invasive species alive? Zap them and turn them into fertilizer.
Sure beats filthy sludge
In modern agriculture, fertilizer is applied mechanically. Need to mechanize the process if these fish are to be cost-effectively used as fertilizer.
@@charleshash4919 Cattle farmers use manure spreaders.... Grind up the fish and spread it.
@@rcpasc1948 Everyone living down wind will love that fish fertilizer if the farmer doesn't incorporate it.
There is something "carpy" in this video: at least three times: at Minutes 6:01, 12:50 and 14:50 your animations and video scenes clearly show Common / European carp. These are also considered an invasive species but very (unfortunately) introduced to the States by US Government action in the late 19th century and are present in the Great lakes since then. They never gained the popularity as a sports and food fish as in Central Europe (and with the Jewish Community) and are also responsible for giving carp a bad name in the USA. Common carp also do not regularly jump at boaters and are primarily bottom feeders
The fish that can pass through all those barriers will be a super invasive species. Survival of the Fittest.
We jamaa ni muongo kichizi, punguza chai. 😂😂😂😂😂
Wake up bro, WATOP dropped a viddy ;)
If you harvest the Carp you can use them for Farming Fertiliser or Food. Electrocution is not poisonous … even though it can be Fatal !
I heard that someone brought them over to take care of some Algae in some ponds down south And there was a flood, and they spilled into the Mississippi, if they're not gonna eat them, they will they'll make great fertilizer, and that could be hugely profitable
Problem. Asian Carp. Solution. Bull Shark. These carp may not be very appetizing to us, but I bet the bull sharks would just love them..
great how you get rid of shark new problem.
why do not they catch them with big nets and take them to special shallow pools where they sort them. So some good fish will be returned to the river while the bad fish will be used to feed people with cheap protein or to feed animals.
Thanks for the coffee reminder!
Good fish fertilizer 👍🏻
let me get this straight. a constant electrical barrier is considered cheaper than creating a mound of dirt and a lift to move boats over the mound of dirt??
Did dirt get expensive somehow?
Good dirt is truck load about $400.
I think it's the bottleneck of a type of locke system with not enough time for that many carriers to get thru and arrive at destinations as scheduled. The changes in arrivals affects the delivery system also from destination.
This could be used as a food supply for people on welfare.
How generous of you.
“No one will try to save you” I have been a paramedic for 20 years with a majority of that in IL. We would save you and that device to meant for the fish to avoid swimming down the waterway, you would see a bunch of dead fish everywhere if that was the case. You would also see more barriers around the water instead of signs. So climatic.
We need this in the Rio Grande to stop illegal border crossings!
Dude I was gonna say this same thing. You beat me to it
Thanks for the reminder. Let’s keep it like that
You kept saying we poisoned the canal. Electricity is not poison.
2.3V ??
Put heating coils in a square section and heat the water to near boiling. Ships can sail through but kills most living organisms
And if there are boats where they aren't allowed....
''Release the _reaper_ ''
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This is interesting… considering that not long ago, the factories around the Great Lakes were dumping toxic waste into the waters. In the 80s the Great Lakes was considered a toxic cocktail. The fishes survived n thrived, but had a dangerous level of contamination. Has that changed? So the fishes are safe to be consumed, at your own risk? … I think it is a waste of financial resources, when the funds could be spent on something more… like education & property elevation
We used electric lines to fish in Brooks
Can be done with induction boxes
Staight electric current with a single AC pulse
So going in the water would kill a person.. but only stuns fish.. hmm fishy
Well it's probably because fish can breathe under water and humans are paralyzed so they drown?
@AnimeFridays but the amount of power it takes to paralyse a human would surely kill a fish
@@Stonerbrom-r1e Fish are smaller and their bodies conduct electricity differently compared to humans. The electric field is designed to stun them without causing permanent harm.
For Humans
Larger Body Mass: Humans have a larger body mass compared to fish, and the electrical current can travel through a human body more extensively, potentially causing severe harm.
Cardiac and Nervous System: The electric field can interfere with the human cardiac and nervous systems more significantly. Even a brief exposure to a high-voltage electric field can result in serious injuries or fatalities for humans, including cardiac arrest or severe burns.
Conductivity and Duration: The duration of exposure and the conductive properties of water increase the risk. Humans are more likely to experience continuous exposure to the electric field if they fall into the water, leading to more severe effects.
Is that straight out of their brochure? Im Pretty sure I can handle more volts than a little fish, a police taser is 50.000v! Yea you end up on the floor twitching and it hurts like ..... but your alive. But when it comes to electric, it's the amps that kill you not volts. What's the amp on the thing?
Or... build a freight line and close the canal...
Wait for it, wait for it; too expensive.
@@EricMcConnaughey failed state
@@EricMcConnaughey
Yeah, corporates don't want lower profits even if increasing and maintaining infrastructure ultimately gives the corp longevity of profits. Maybe too used to feds bailing them out when the dangers are great.
Don't drink decaf please,avoid methylene chloride
They use different extraction solvents now
@@Reactionreacting no all companies
Rescue services will never endanger themselves to save another, that is stupid
What is the electrical current? that will answer all questions of safety.
Hey America government, your up next on the chopping block.👍✅
Sir ,
The problem with the Asian Carp in USA , is that because it is
so much bony that it is unsuitable for American pallette .
Why not extensively harvest the fish and export to Asian
Countries , to get foreign exchange .
Alternatively , pulverize the fish and use it for pig and poultry feed .
Bigger size fish ( above 6 pounds ) have thicker bones , which can be
picked clean , and suitable for American pallette .
Australian method of medical poisoning , is debatable , it has rendered
all wild rabbits unfit for consumption , and now , fish .
Electric Barrier , is still the best option .
Less than 3V?
Looks like the narrator has no idea
He probably meant megawatt
Fish heads fish heads roly poly fish heads, eat em up yum. Circa 1980 by Barnes and Barnes
Different electric frequencies have different effects on nerves systems , but finding the correct frequency for a type of marine life ?
what happens if you pee in to the Electrified water?
You'll get a ventricular fibrillation 😅
Nothing like peeing on an electric fence. Think myth busters did something on this but your pee isn't an unbroken stream of liquid.
Nothing the stream is not solid enough for it to travel through to your weenie. Myth busters did cover this in slow motion, the stream is broken up so nothing passes through.
You won't do it again. 😅😅😅
Your pp gets bigger
This video makes it sound like the electrical obstruction is deadly to humans all by itself. It's not. According to the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign, the lowest electrical resistance of human flesh (wet or dry) is about 300 ohms. Even wet skin is higher than that, around 1000 ohms. At 300 ohms, 2.3 volts, can cause 7.6 milliamps to flow. According to Scientific Journal of Control Engineering, that's only *barely* in the AC-3 range, which can cause some muscle contraction. But only when exposed long-term. The odds of being killed by those low levels of shock alone are miniscule.
So why the scary signs? Simple: the danger comes from the fact that to get shocked, you'd have to be swimming. If someone is particularly susceptible to electric shock, and is immersed in the water, it's possible, though unlikely, their muscles may contract. If they are not a strong swimmer, these contractions could be bad enough to cause trouble swimming, and potentially drowning.
2.3 volts? Something's not right there. 2.3V, even pulsed, wouldn't make my tongue flinch. 2.3KV perhaps.
People that are following Biblical scriptural commandments, are commanded not to eat fish that are without fins and scales.
So, what happens when the next regional power outage happens?
Given the numbers of fish shown, I wouldn't be surprised to see a fair number of fish get past the electrified spots.
😮 if u live u get a Fine nice! 😂😂😂 ❤ good video never heard of this craziness 😊
Coffee reminder at the end! So I made more coffee.
I don't know what to say about this. It is strange nature has so much power.
Thanks again China
Proud to be a vegan. No thanks . Sometimes it’s hard to tell the bottom feeders apart . Take that any way you want
Carp are very full of fine bone's, actually kind of tasty. But slow cook in foil on a grill, or smoke them very long, meat just fall off the bone. Old trick black folks taught me is just put them through a meat grinder and make patties.
I keep hearing 2.3 volts. I'm trying to figure out how that would influence the human nervous system. The only thing I can come up with is that if the water is conductive enough, there would be a massive current flow that would overwhelm the skin barrier. That doesn't seem at all likely, but what do I know?
The Aussie method is quite dangerous since that can leads to chain reaction.:v
Ah, I understand more now. Asian Carp have a sensitivity to electric fields, and that keeps them away. The prohibition comes from the electrification of the shoreline. A human passing through would be fine, just facing the heavy fine.
2:11 dont you mean 2.3 kilovolts?
edit:ok so i did s google search and apparently its indeed a few volts,but i dont think this can kill a person that falls into the canal idk
I worked around low voltage for most of my work career and never was zapped, but did feel a tingling on 50v and sometimes even lower if my hands were wet or sweaty. I would imagine the whole body being subjected to even a low voltage would affect the nervous system. Dry skin is a pretty good insulator but when it is wet that changes. I’ve never put a 9v battery on my tongue, but they say it’s not a good feeling.
He did state in this video that it messes with the nervous system
Farmed carp $3.5
Wild carp $7
In my locality 😊😊😊
"2.3 volts". Wow, really scary. (That's less than 2 AA batteries.)
hard to believe 2.3v, I'd believe 2.3kv
True esting such organisms can truly sicken.the energy of entire members of areas that still have not fully emptied down the water levels to acceptant globally keeping from destruction of flooding and Restrain upon the entirety of style like areas of eras of traditional sense.
how many carp species were introduced to North America? do native predatory fishes such as pike gar and catfish feed on them?
Humans think they can fight with Nature 😂
This is an attempt to correct what was done by humans to nature. It’s apparent nature does what it will.
not nature always wins over time.
Great solution. Too bad there isn't a solution for natural bodies of water.
Minced and spiced makes a great dish
It’s to stop you folks from fishing 🎣 and being SUSTAINABLE 🤦🏾😈 so enjoy your fish from the store 😩
This is a short term stop gap measure...you think the electric barrier will never fail?
Was it actually explained why the fish had to be removed?
Peace. It is written: We shall be held responsible for every life extinguished to serve our purposes. Sky, Earth, waters. Our Creator intended every environ to be habitated by life forms. To wastefully obliterate lives... Have doubts claiming waters were man-made will have much perduasion. Peace.
what creator?
@@TK-593 Peace. Thank you for reply! Query is so brief, am not exactly sure of being able to adequately respond. In observation, someone thinks to produce things. Manipulates physical world to manifest thoughts. A, 'Creator' is not a, 'what'. They are, 'who'. Each of us is maturing over time. Physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually. Am aware vast varieties of, 'creators' have been known to mankind's members. Everything that is natural, i.e., water, plants, animals, celestials, natural gases, exist because a Creator thought to bring these physical forms into existence. Including us. That Creator. Peace.
@@gloriagarza6823 Creator might be a dude like you and me, scratching his ass, looking at a screen running this universe. Might not even be his favorite screen to look at.
@@gloriagarza6823 That is a long list of claims. Do you have any evidence to demonstrate that any of those things were in fact created. Even if you do, how did you determine they were created by a "who"?
@@TK-593 Peace. Yes, almost infinite number of things. Other things are yet to be created. Proof is: These things existed or exist here, now. Peace.
Ate fried carp when I caught them as a little kid- Smoked is good too
What about using a natural competitor to eat the carp?
getting your ocean hero add of your youtube video is crazyyyyy congrats tho
Apart from being bony, carp aren't good eating because they don't taste very good as they digest lots of mud, something Asians overcome by using strong spices!
Who's going to stop that one guy that ruins everything from introducing the carp directly to the lakes just because? And I'm fairly certian that 2.5 volts isn't enough voltage to affect us unless I completely missed something.
2.3 volts or 2.3 kv?