Christian VS Ex-Christian: Can Two Pastors' Kids Agree?

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  • Опубліковано 26 жов 2024

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  • @honestdiscourse
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  • @dialinministries
    @dialinministries Рік тому +39

    Thanks for having me on! - Jonny Ardavanis

    • @TheMrLeoniasty
      @TheMrLeoniasty Рік тому +1

      Thank you Jonny for your input in this conversation. You had some amazing questions and overall great insight into christianity.

    • @darcyd2680
      @darcyd2680 Рік тому +1

      Very good conversation.
      I like the sincerity.

  • @GregSukert
    @GregSukert Рік тому +17

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  • @treyclark9412
    @treyclark9412 Рік тому +9

    The ending call to repentance while sharing the Good News in love was absolutely beautiful.

    • @honestdiscourse
      @honestdiscourse  Рік тому +1

      So glad you loved it! That was one of our favorite parts as well!

  • @geoffreyespinosa4311
    @geoffreyespinosa4311 11 місяців тому +2

    “A Tale of Two Johnnies”. Great discussion fellas.

  • @TheMrLeoniasty
    @TheMrLeoniasty Рік тому +5

    This is a grate video, cant wait for more from this channel !

  • @marrvalaska5472
    @marrvalaska5472 Рік тому +9

    This was amazing. Thank you for the hard work you obviously put into it. To God be the glory!

    • @honestdiscourse
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      So glad you enjoyed it! Can't wait to release more!

  • @RoqueJohnny
    @RoqueJohnny Рік тому +7

    This was such a fun discussion. Really appreciate being apart of this project.

    • @trenthinson7851
      @trenthinson7851 Рік тому

      Great conversation! Praying for you Johnny!!

    • @loganlamar4307
      @loganlamar4307 11 місяців тому

      Thank you for coming on and chatting :)

  • @TheRoark
    @TheRoark Рік тому +6

    Excited to watch this!

    • @honestdiscourse
      @honestdiscourse  Рік тому +1

      Hopefully you enjoyed it! So excited that you are excited!

  • @jordanmattievisuals
    @jordanmattievisuals Рік тому +9

    Wow. This is such outstanding content in every single way. As a Christian and a filmmaker, it is so enjoyable to sit down and watch with something that is top-notch in both the content and the visuals. A gift to the mind and the eyes!

    • @RoqueJohnny
      @RoqueJohnny 4 місяці тому +1

      Don't forget the sound. The sound guy was top notch.

  • @CentralChurch901
    @CentralChurch901 Рік тому +5

    Thanks for creating an environment where people can discuss opposing views in a Christ-like manner. We are so excited to see the impact your videos have had in sharing the gospel and uniting people.

  • @kathleenly7497
    @kathleenly7497 Рік тому +5

    I love everything about this.. thank you showing the raw truth of the deconstructing faith without rightly reconstructing their beliefs correctly. Johnny was brave to come forward and share his experiences that I believe many ppl can resonate with, but Jonny also did a wonderful job calling into question these beliefs and using this platform to rightly teach what the scriptures say about God and Jesus. Great conversation and wonderful way to spur on Christians to cont to make disciples of all nations. Well done, great questions and hoping to see more from this channel.

    • @coltrxne2154
      @coltrxne2154 7 місяців тому +1

      There is no “right” way to deconstruct, otherwise it’s not true deconstruction but simply a reinterpretation or change in theology

    • @RoqueJohnny
      @RoqueJohnny 4 місяці тому

      @@coltrxne2154 would that follow under all the "bibles" that get published in various versions depending on the translation?

  • @darcyd2680
    @darcyd2680 Рік тому +1

    Good channel 👏

  • @fbrennan9494
    @fbrennan9494 Рік тому +2

    As mentioned in this video, it really comes down to John 14:6 - Jesus said, "I am the Way, the truth and the Life, no man comes to the Father but through me." Either what Jesus said is true, which makes all of scripture true for it was written through His Spirit through man. or he is a lunatic or a liar... I for one know He is the Way, the truth and the life due to him speaking to me audibly at 4 years old before I even knew there was a God, Jesus or Holy Spirit. As soon as Jesus spoke to me, I knew who it was. He didn't tell me His name, I just knew. His voice was so loving, kind, truthful and yet with authority that deserved all my worship. I got all that in that short moment, with these simple words "you need to forgive her". He was right (as He always is). I was starting to hate my neighbor for stealing my things, but when He spoke this to me, I did choose to forgive her. So thankful for this life lesson that I have had to use many times in my lifetime... Forgiveness is a key to staying connected to Jesus and receiving the best He has for each of us...

    • @RoqueJohnny
      @RoqueJohnny 4 місяці тому

      Bringing up "'John 14:6 - Jesus said, "I am the Way, the truth and the Life, no man comes to the Father but through me.'" Is a great point, I would not put it under lunatic or liar for it not being able to be fully possible to physically go through Jesus, but allowing the spirit of Jesus or the teachings of Jesus to go through you is very possible. The "comes to the father" part shows that in order to know God you must know Jesus which makes perfect sense because Jesus is the embodiment of God, so your experiences as a "human" can be more relatable to "Jesus'" experiences than to "God's" experiences. Example, you know what it is like to be tempted and to walk by faith, however you have no idea what it is like to breathe life into dirt and have a man created. I do 100% agree with you about forgiveness. Holding something so close to your heart as anger and vengeance is a dangerous thing that was put in us for survival and it needs to be monitored or extinguished.

    • @fbrennan9494
      @fbrennan9494 3 місяці тому

      @@RoqueJohnny Hi, I guess I am a bit confused on the first part of your reply?? If I am understanding correctly, you think this verse is saying we actually go through Jesus? This verse doesn't mean we physically go through Jesus, but it is about one's belief in Jesus as the only way to the Father. Agree in order to get to the Father, we need to believe in Jesus as His only Son and our Savior, there is no other way (no Buddha, no Mohammad, nothing else). I am not sure I understand fully about what your saying about Jesus and the Father. I know there have been some that have been in the presence of both God the Father and Jesus in Heaven (their testimonies). And can understand more about the Father. I know He is loving, but haven't encountered Him (yet), like I have Jesus. I think the Father can be known deeper as well. I guess I would disagree on one point that anger and vengeance was "put" into us for survival. That wording to me sounds like your saying we are like animals. We are created in the image of God and these things were not put into us, but is a sign of our flesh or demonic influences, is how I see it... Anger or vengeance are choices. I am glad you see that that is not a good way to live! God Bless!!

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  • @Ian-nm2pg
    @Ian-nm2pg Рік тому +2

    Great interview very respectful
    The deconstruction guy sounds like he is living his life standing on a wet bar of soap he doesn’t want to put a foot on anything that has a foundation
    His nerves laugh makes me wonder if he really believes what he believes or he just wants it to be true
    but he doesn’t believe in absolute truth

    • @gkarenstratton
      @gkarenstratton 10 місяців тому

      Yes, Im afraid so and I pray for him, for i'm not at all sure he's truly saved (and this makes me both ssd and scared for him ... nothing on earth is more impt) ... I nean he doesnt yet KNOW or HAVE the one true God in His heart.
      This all also brings out how very crucial is the right theology of a church that you go to. Thank GOD He finally lifted me fron the muck of ky lostness and ... through the loving-ness of a few people from a church with some wrong beliefs (Nazarene) He led me to an independent, fundamental Baptist one with a courageous, smart, yet gentle man, wonderful at soulwinning and personal counselling for its pastor. Russ Reemtsma, now at First Baptist of Clarkston Michigan ( on Facebook and UA-cam.

    • @coltrxne2154
      @coltrxne2154 7 місяців тому

      @@gkarenstrattonfundamentalism is the most incoherent and illogical of all biblical interpretations

  • @sammomoose
    @sammomoose 11 місяців тому

    Jonny, the Christian, did a great job of exposing Johnny the non-Christian's corrupt worldview, lack of morals, distrust of God's word, due to being unsaved, and having a legalistic upbringing. Very gentle way of presenting the truth to Johnny the non-Christian, but should have told him he was wrong, according to the Bible more directly. He's a product of the modern gospel.

    • @coltrxne2154
      @coltrxne2154 7 місяців тому

      It’s not logically possible for the Bible to be inerrant

    • @sammomoose
      @sammomoose 7 місяців тому

      @@coltrxne2154 by what standard? Where did you get that information?

  • @ambreenes6694
    @ambreenes6694 Рік тому +3

    Listening to Johnny ( with an H ) is making me sooo sad. No one has ever actually taught or presented him with true Gospel and the seminary he went to obviously useless..Will be praying for him

  • @oshea2300
    @oshea2300 Рік тому +2

    If he got baptized every year, he probably was not in a good church. A good pastor would not baptize somebody once a year.. knowing that baptism is an ordinance only to be done after a person gets saved / born again

    • @RoqueJohnny
      @RoqueJohnny 4 місяці тому

      They were actually really great pastors. Fully helped out the communities they touched and were believers for most of if not their entire lives. I grew up in a suburb of East LA (East East LA) and there were many people that had actually problems who were seeking God in addition we had a very large youth group for that city which kept kids out of the streets. The pastors saw the willingness to be baptized again as either a rededication of their souls to keep on track with the lord or a public stand for the lord. Plus it was usually over 100 degrees in July at one of the church leaders house in order to have a holy and productive Christian BBQ. How was your baptism conducted?

  • @Homeatlast101
    @Homeatlast101 Рік тому +3

    Don't hate but Johnny with an "H" needs to be discipled more in both the Old and New Testaments.... He was not understanding some basic dynamics of God's Word.... Praise God for him being a Believer but he needs more study under his belt....

  • @enigma4526
    @enigma4526 Рік тому +1

    If I may ask, why was this deleted and re-uploaded?

  • @The7WISDOMSOFPROVERBS
    @The7WISDOMSOFPROVERBS 9 місяців тому +1

    Judaism is calling you bro!

    • @RoqueJohnny
      @RoqueJohnny 4 місяці тому

      I only read the bible in it's original Greek form. Thank you very much.

    • @The7WISDOMSOFPROVERBS
      @The7WISDOMSOFPROVERBS 4 місяці тому

      @@RoqueJohnny Do the History on the Septuagint. Greek is not the Original form. If you want original get Aramaic

  • @saedi8068
    @saedi8068 10 місяців тому +1

    This was a very unbalanced discussion. I'd love to see future episodes where the exvangelical is more coherent and makes more valid points.

    • @RoqueJohnny
      @RoqueJohnny 4 місяці тому

      I felt my points were coherent and valid. Thank you for watching. What points were unclear to you?

  • @oshea2300
    @oshea2300 Рік тому +1

    Evangelical/christian are the same thing.

    • @RoqueJohnny
      @RoqueJohnny 4 місяці тому

      I can see that, but I think it is more of a specific. Like "red" and "blue" are colors being the same in that regard, but when the specifics are brought up from the two, they are very different. What kind of Christian do you identify as?

  • @sammomoose
    @sammomoose 11 місяців тому

    Actually, the reason God sends people to Hell forever, is because of their sin against Him (Romans 6:23), not primarily for not believing in Jesus (unbelief), although unbelief is sin too.

    • @coltrxne2154
      @coltrxne2154 7 місяців тому +1

      How can god punish us in Hell which is not real ?

    • @sammomoose
      @sammomoose 7 місяців тому

      @@coltrxne2154 God can and will do punish you in Hell forever because of your sins against Him, of lying, theft, blasphemy lust, hatred, idolatry, adultery, and all other sins.