Chasing Payments in the Music Industry: My Jingle Company Story
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
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In the music business, getting paid isn't always easy. In this video, I share a personal story about my experience working for a jingle company in Nashville. Initially promised payment within 30 days, I was shocked when they extended it to 90 days. Discover the challenges I faced, the gear I used in these sessions, and how I ultimately got paid.
Highlights:
🎸 Behind-the-scenes of working on jingles and radio spots for TV and film
🎚️ The gear that made the magic: guitars, pedals, and amps
📅 The frustration of delayed payments and the steps I took to chase them
💡 Tips and strategies for musicians dealing with payment delays
Join me as I navigate the tricky world of music payments and share valuable insights from my journey. If you've ever struggled to get paid for your creative work, this video is for you!
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#MusicBusiness #MusicianLife #JingleCompany #NashvilleMusic #GuitarGear #PaymentDelays #MusicianTips #GuitaristStories #MusicIndustry #StudioLife #SessionMusician #GetPaid
I can relate to trying to get paid in the music business. It is a hard business to make money in as Springsteen said.
Yes indeed!
ANOTHER REALLY REALLY GOODE ONE..THANK YOU..!!!!
Thank you!
As a drummer- When I lived in LA, the only biz worse than Music was acting. I can't imagine, if you are not union, it makes for really hard times. So once I moved from Branson to the Tampa area. Gigs were hard to find. 2010-2012), There are millions of musicians in FL. Snowbirds that move there, blow the dust off their instruments and put a band together. They won't pay anything I found the best gigs to look for- Corporate Jazz/lounge gigs. Clone band acts like, Elton John, VH, Metallica, etc, etc. They pay as good or better. There are a few big booking agents that cover Tampa/Orlando and then South FL. Constantly watching Craigslist ads will give you an Idea where the best action is. The Villages and on up to the Flagler area are best for gigs that play bike rally's and private parties. I'm in the Chattanooga area now but if I were to move back to FL, it would be So FL. Lauderdale and Miami or up in JAX., just my opinion. But there should be plenty of work between Tampa and Orlando for you.
Great info and thank you. Yes got to search for the best paying opportunities. Will be interesting for sure.
The compitition is stiff in Nashville..the money..I went and it was after our producer told my singer “We have plenty of great guitarists out here, but if you need him he better not let me down”!! Well I went and I felt more than confident about my skill factor..then the day before our session we went downtown to Music Row and hit a few bars.. it was the same in everyone..band playing for tips for session time..I never witnessed that before..let alone how good they were..it made me rethink my talent..I talked to a guitar player on a break and he said it was hard to make it anywhere above what they were making in tips, until your discovered..or go back home..needless to say I put on my blinders after that did my session and waited for what the feedback was going to be from our producer. I was elated to say the least when he said my singer did the right thing in bringing me along because I had my own distinct playing style..that’s my Oregon originality style!! Glad you settled in BadBrad!! My daughter moved to the Orlando area last year!!
Great post. Yeah it’s tough in Music city but I’m sure what you brought put a valuable spin on the music. Best to you!
I got an unexpected BMI royalty check. Turn out a cable TV channel, somewhere played a show called The Psychic Friends Network Picnic. Said show used a snippet of onebof my songs. Strange and they never asked me.😊
That is strange but maybe somewhere you distributed it now licenses the songs out and boom you get a royalty...?
I just played a jazz gig in St. Paul in June. Played 3 sets and talked to people for a little while then the bartender walks up and hands me $300.00 in cash. I thought wow I didnt even have to ask anyone to get paid. How nice! Definitely have had it go the other way though. I have some stories myself. Really like your style of presenting a video. It's very down to earth and real. No BS. Good luck in Florida!
Man thanks so much! It's nice when you don't have to collect!
Yep…collecting is a huge part of any job. Especially when you’re on your own!
You know it. I got good at it. If they don’t fear you they won’t pay you.
I studied commercial music in college. In my orientation, a professor laid it out. “If you’re going to make a living playing music, you’re rarely going to love what you’re playing”! And when you don’t get paid for a gig you don’t really get into, just salt in the wound!😫 I love this guy🎸
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Absolutely fantastic have a wonderful weekend brad ❤😊
Thank you! You too!
Being self employed, you become responsible for everything. Being the collection agency dept, is never fun.
I like using a booking agent. They get a little of the money , but do all the stuff I don’t care to do.
Yeah that works good for gigs but not so much for sessions.....
I played in a cover band back in the 80’s we played an out door job at the end our bass player went to get payed. A bunch of guys started surrounding our van band with the gun racks in the back windows of their trucks. So we got out with out getting paid because that was a party down by the river 😜. So lesson learned always get at least half the money up front.😎
Wow ....that's crazy....
@@badbrad yes it was. I’m new to your channel I love the stories. I played in cover bands for 17 years . Stopped a few years ago I’m now 65. I’m a classic rock guy. But I love all music just love watching talent . I was a lead singer but love to watch guitarist rip and man can you rip. God bless I pray that you will be blessed.😎
@@brettcreech3490 Man thanks so much! It is so much appreciated. You know the beauty of this channel taking off is the community of like minded souls we have here and you are welcome here anytime. Best to you!
Some people think just because we enjoy what we do as musicians, we don't need to get paid; I once had to chase a pastor down for giving me a bounced check after working a church gig.
Wow Holey Moley!
Churches. Ugg. Worst than bar gigs, imo.
lol
@@Instramark Absolute truth.🤣
Hello Brad! I hear you, 'collecting' is probably one of the worse parts in making Music, because we musicians are poets and collecting has nothing to do with playing music, but you have to learn how to do it. Usually, the ones who have the bigger budgets are the ones you 'll have to chase in order to have your check. Normally, 'poor' people know the importance of money and surviving, so they kind of try their best in order to pay you, and also, are the most generous.Nowadays, if you ask 'what's your budget, for the work you need me to do?', watch them run like ants!
Thank you for sharing your stories, lots of musicians can relate! Take care!
Thank you Pedro. Your presence here is much appreciated.
@@badbrad Thank you for your kind words Brad, we're here because of you and your honesty!
i love living in Florida....lots of gigs!
Tha it’s great to hear. What type of gigs do you do.
i do a mix. Corporate and remote recording as well as some tribute gigs with a real cool company out of Canada. Sometimes even some live recording...@@badbrad
@@markcorradetti that’s awesome!
I read where Tony Iommi said "if you go into music.....learn one chord. Then learn a second chord. Before you learn a third chord.....get a lawyer".
Seems to me that the only way to make real money in music is in publishing. Everyone else has their hands out taking their cut, stealing, scamming, etc. The biz seems to attract some of the very worst in management and promoting, using naive youngsters who love to play.
I think of all the big names that have been bankrupted and stolen by tens of millions of dollars....Billy Joel, Ted Nugent, damn near all of Motown. Too many to list.
It's a jungle out there.
Yes it is my friend.
thats the real deal great to hear the honest reality,,
Thank u
Just sent out a Venmo request for a gig I did Wed night. Unusual to not get paid right away. I have had to get heavy a few times. We'll see how far and hard I will need to get for this one, but I won't play the next gig on the 21st unless I get money from the 3rd. Or at least an email explanation.
Yeah it sucks to not get paid but you just have to keep up the pressure....if they don't pay.
That's the gig when you're running your own biz and don't have an accounting department to handle those things for you.
True
I’m new here Brad? Appreciate your hard work and all of the great intel you provide to all of us! I grew up in Nashville, left in ‘78 with a family move. As you’ve said, Nashville is a different animal today? Back in the day, MEL Tillis took his tent to Branson and story goes “I’ll leave a light on for ya” to his fellow music stars? He was “the Kreskin of the time” and what followed was the flood gates of old school “Real Country” acts fleeing the sinking ship? Now when I hear a player say “hey I’m headed to Nashville to make it!” Better off making your bones somewhere else where someone gives a crap! You seem like a good guy, wish you the very best buddy, once again, appreciate all that you’re doing here! I am following your new chapter to Florida, wish you the best!
My old Boss Ira Dean was a good friend To Mel. Love having you here. It should be interesting. Lot's more on the way. Thank you!
Absolutely fantastic have a wonderful day brad also i went to a wedding last night ❤😊
So cool!
LuLu Madeleine going to florida from nashville. She's off to Fort Lauderdale. Another one leaving
Welcome to Sunshine State
I can tell you those agencies live and die on their contacts at the brands. It’s hard to bypass them entirely and some are better than others. The key is to work with the #1 person (owner/founder) which usually means footwork at conventions. I’ve had your same experience and it’s usually due to sloppy attention to detail from lower rung employees or last minute demands from the brand. it will test ones meddle for sure as the pay ranges is vast - from three to five figures - while their urgency can be the same level for both
Absolutely....I don't think this company has been active now for quite a while.
Your royalties from RATT helped you out when times were tight.
Bro if only....
Potential delays in payments should be told to the musician up front. But that would be in some sort of alternative universe…..
ha ha yes!
In this day and economy it is getting harder to get paid on any platform I work in manufacturing as well as play the guitar and our customers are always striving to stretch out when to pay I had one that owed basically 14,000. And asked for more time because of a merger in their company and this was a week ago and the bill was due in March ….i am afraid gonna get worse as we go
Man that is alot of scratch to be owed. I hope they pay up soon.
Do musicians receive a check where they have to figure out their own tax deductions?
We have tax deductions like anybody.
Thankfully, I've only encountered a few moments like these. Enjoy your videos!
If you are reading this.. have you ever gone by the name "salty"? You look very familiar. I was in Nashville around 92'-93 era ( my first experiences there)
No never been called Salty at least to my face lol.
@@badbrad funny!
This definitely wasn't a negative nickname.
I just recall it being a dude with long black hair from LA pursuing country $$. Thanks for confirming
@@steevstar1 There was a few guys with that pedigree but I never met a Salty...
I cant believe how much I have been shooting my mouth off on this channel. It's Brad's fault!
I played a lot of games getting paid.
The jingle biz is a great way to not only get stiffed but also to have your work stolen, especially if you wrote and produced the jingle.
It is all my fault. In this case these guys wrote the stuff. It was all pretty pedestrian. But I hear ya loud and clear.
Texas Brad, Texas
Uh already in Florida…..
There’s no excuse for not getting paid when the session is over. If they paid to book the session, they can pay the pickers
Ding Ding Ding...we have a winner!
Its saturday, what another badbrad video 😂
Practically one very day this week.....I'm working non stop.