'That is Theft!' Ian Hislop Digs Deep In The Post Office Scandal | Hat Trick Comedy
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- The upcoming election might be dominating the headlines, but Paula Vennells and the Post Office scandal are not safe from the panel.
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the country should thank Ian Hislop for taking up the campaign, and not letting it go. ❤
Agreed.
Boll9cks
Yeah. The Eye has been on the case of these people for over 20 years now
@@user-po2qb6cm9qAnd Computer Weekly even longer, as Hislop has frequently acknowledged
Hear hear
As the lady on Channel 4 news said. "I went to prison for supposedly mismanaging one post office."
This lady was in charge of them all, so........
Mc drop
prison I think
Good point well made!
In a 🌰 shell!!!
Definitely prison.
This woman is a classic example of senior managers in private and public business. Their job is to extract money from their workers and customers by whatever means.
Don't forget constantly fudging the numbers to maximise their bonuses and minimise taxes.
Er no it's not. She's a classic example of someone promoted way over her head. Much more prevalent in the public sector too
@superted6960 I wouldn't say that, promoting people far beyond their mental capacity is also extremely common in large cooperations.
I work for an international multi, the really big ones as just as overly bureaucratic and inflexible as the public sector.
That seems simplistic but it’s 100% the truth.
Which one?
How did Ruth Davidson become a Baroness?
She lied under oath in the high court which is perjury and considered very serious and carries a mandatory five year sentence!
Lets hope she get sent down for it, but I doubt she will
When was the last time you saw someone get a mandatory sentence?!!
There should be prosecutions in this case. Its criminal what she has done. All she said was 'i did'nt know' ' they did'nt tell me' etc. She was being paid millions per year, she is paid to know, the buck stops with her.
Hislop just goes straight for the jugular. Top man. 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Of Course He Does,He Says What we would All Say.Good on ya Ian
If you think about it he’s spent like a 3rd of his life reporting on the post office and the scandal that went on for so long it’s fair enough
Watch the videos of those Post Office officials at the inquiry. Absolutely comical. The answers they were giving beggar belief.
Pity the Private Eye called anyone who disagreed with ANY of the stuff happening during tbe pandemic was insulted by being called a tin hat wearer. He's just a smug part of the establishment he makes a living out of criticising.
Because his salary doesn't depend on him following the script, he's a legend.
Shame Hislop wasn't invited to ask questions or at least provide them for the inquiry. He's been on their case from the start and has more of a tendency to remember stuff.
Wait for the police and civil actions that will follow the enquiry.
Ian might be a star witness.
@@dougaltolan3017 I really hope so.
I've been waiting for this, massive, massive credit to Ian for all his support to the sub post masters over the last number of years.
The dishonesty and greed amongst senior management in many organisations is staggering, and none of them take responsibility when they're caught red handed
the working class allow them get away with it!
Plausible deniability is typical of many senior people in organisations. Career limiting for anyone who bursts their bubble.
@@DrMontague How exactly are regular folk supposed to stop this? It requires authorities to stop it, and the authorities ARE part of the corruption...
Vennells literally caught with both her hands in the till. BOOM
Always the way in the UK.
As they said on the BBC news…’she’s had years to prepare for this appearance’ every answer rehearsed to limit damage, avoid blame…total hypocrite. Edit: And listening again to her testimony she says she’s been working on this ( presumably her 750 page witness statement) virtually full time for the past 3 years!!!
Sociopath is the word.
and it was still a terrible performance, she won't win any acting awards for that.
She might as well have had blank sheets of paper. 🤬
She was probably on the payroll whilst preparing the statement.
3 years spent working on her statement, but it only took 3 days of questioning to not remember the majority of it.
The post office under Paula Vennels spent £100 million prosecuting postmasters who they knew to be innocent all along and now the post office may have to be sold as it near bankruptcy. That's mad!
External legal fees £260m over 5 years
Sooner this shambles is off the taxpayer's back the better we will all be.
@@alanbradley9621 don't talk like an idiot
@alanbradley9621 ahh privatization of a needed public service rarely ends well. Look at water, sewage and electricity services
@@chadfife3265 and the railways.
One thing with Ian Hislop he dives pretty deep into things he is passionate about and also takes no prisoners when there are polititions on the show, he never holds back. You have to give him credit for that
Ian Hislop is my hero
Mine too.
Mine too ❤
He has been excellent when reporting on the PO scandal.
Private Eye did some excellent JOURNALISM on this topic and refused to let it lie.
If only we could have Ian Hislop's name on the ballot paper on polling day instead of the usual selection of lying, corrupt, incompetent dregs we've become accustomed to. He'd be in for life!
Well said Ian. At least some people on the BBC are prepared to tell the truth. Unlike the News team who showed symapthy for this woman. It should shock me that the BBC should move on from the most critical piece of Vennell"s interview over to downing street simply to show nothing happening and speculate rubbish for one hour. But it doesn't anymore. When I see the unsavoury sorts that they side with on a regular basis it is clear for all to see the BBC is not what it once was. One has to question whether the timing by government announcing the election was actually to take attention away from the enquiry. Were they afraid of what she might say or who else she might throw under the bus?
The Post Office scandal was largely exposed by Journalist Nick Wallis working for the BBC who in 2020 made a 10 part series for Radio 4 & a BBC Panorama special covering what had been going on.
has no one asked ---- why did this take 15 years to come out? the question should be ---- who was behind the initial Capital of the Listing, (and holders of preference shares) who stood to loose the most? why why why did the external auditors say nothing?? ---- no oversight over 15 years ------- no one on the board, humpty dumpty and all said nothing ??? why did no Judge or Prosecutor had the courage to say anything ? and finally where was the media ?
Paula qualifications - Greek and Russian and French, and an Anglican preast - all requirements to head a multinational !!! -- if you believe this you are equally guilty
That'll be the BBC who for over 40 years had multiple high-profile sex offenders at the forefront of their productions, knew about them and did nothing. One of its employs fabricated 'evidence' to secure an interview with Diana, what did they do? they ostracised the whistleblower who had prepared the forgery and denied him earning opportunities.
the talk in my area, IS. If she P.V. is not in prison at the time of the election then they will not vote CONSEVITIVE. Plus the others involved.
Nice one Ian, well said, it’s theft and that’s a crime in which the police should investigate.
Not if they belong to the same club/church! Potential Bishop of London!
@zigatone2022 Except that if anyone investigates Vennells, it'll probably be the Met - and they're corrupt, with incompetent senior officers, so don't expect anything from them. Vennells is an establishment figure with wealthy friends in very high places, so for her it'll be a short prison sentence at most plus early parole. She'll then write her memoires (which enough people will be daft enough to buy), and she'll then just carry on lying in some other organisation. She won't be punished - mark my words.
That bit ch Vennells needed to read a few back numbers of 'Private Eye' to refresh her memory. Some years(?) ago PE did a 4-page exposure on this scenario and I couldn't finish reading it as it was so upsetting. Vennells should take a revolver, and a bottle of port and be locked in a room to do the decent thing. That is after she has had EVERYTHING taken off her. Proceeds of crime, and all that!
Here's the question I would like her to answer. This is the worst miscarriage of justice in UK history,. Innocent people had their lives ruined, some committed suicide, does she think this should go unpunished? Does she think crying after years of lying to MP's, nine years of refusing to answer questions about her part in this, should be forgiven because she gave back her OBE?
Definitely strip her pension, bonus and for the others in this fiasco.
If the post master was charged surely they were stripped of their pension and rights?
@nickoforesta5788 Saving her own skin.
She's supposedly given her OBE back volunterely funny that it wasn't until a petition was signed by people saying she should give it back. She should be made to pay back all the bonus's she's received and if she can't make her sell her house like some of the post masters were made to do.
She didn't give back her OBE, it was taken back and rightly so.
No, she was allowed to voluntarily give it back (hopefully it would have been taken if she hadn't). And it was a higher CBE that she was awarded, and returned.@@crackpot148
Ian is such a nice guy. I bumped into him a few years ago in London and I gushed. He was very patient with me. He’s a top man!
I have met him too and he is generous, kind, thoughtful and shows great judgement. He also made me feel at ease and worth his attention. Great man!
Get private eye he edits it
@@iancockroft2874 Does he? Wow.
If she doesn’t go to prison, locked up for an exceedingly long time, not only will justice have failed, but it sends a message to other corporate corrupt officials that they can expect to get away with illegal behaviour.
I don't think she was corrupt.
I think she took the job, in the belief that she no longer had to work for salary.
She had subordinates to do the work for which she was being paid, and therefore is guilty of gross negligence, but not corruption.
I would like to nominate Ian Hislop for " minister of "standards of behaviour in public life ." With powers to prosecute ( with extreme prejudice ! )those who fail to adhere to the "Nolan principles."
Anyone wish to second ?
I would
i second so long as Paul Merton can be court jester.....
Thirded
Nice sentiment but Hislop as a minister? - never in a million years. He would never be part of any government, and rightly so. Treasure Private Eye under his stewardship, it's not perfect but it does expose these liars and crooks.
Minister for Common Sense?
I'll get me (flame proof) coat.
The country needs people like Ian a man who has morals and principles and has genuine respect for the public shame he's not a politician as he's a man I would vote for
Ian Hislop hitting the nail right on the head yet again. Brilliant man.
Ambitions to sit in the House of Lords, maybe to sit in on such an Inquiry.
Who "enables" and recruits such a goon squad of liars, and incompetents? Who promotes this silo mentality of management, and fosters such a lack of professional curiosity? Who rewards them with hefty bonuses and Honours?
Whether it's Infected Blood, Hillsborough, or Water Companies rinsing the business, and dumping sewage the pattern is the same.
Well done Ian Hislop and Private Eye, decades of highlighting the rampant corruption that pervades Public Services, Town Halls, Media, Hospitals, Agriculture and, Commerce and Finance.
Was that about how did Ruth Davidson become a Baroness?
@@user-ho4rv6kg8u More about Paula Vennels. At least RD has a sense of humour (imo).
the dozy work class allow them to have positions of power, they are the same working class tossers who gave bojo a landslide victory and who stabbed Corbyn in the back, I wonder how many sub postmasters voted tory!
None of that money will be returned and I doubt any of them will go to jail, no matter how guilty.
Hope not...Alan bates is forcing a prosecution.
HEAR HEAR.
The wrongly convicted are being offered £600,000 compensation already.
As for jail, I personally expect arrests the day the results of the inquiry are published. The Criminal Justice system is not happy how it's been used here.
@@hairyairey hope so....
So how did she get the job, how did she get her decoration, and how did she nearly become Bishop of London?
Because she served the establishment well
She was prepared and willing to do what her paymaster told her to do regardless of morals. Like almost everyone who gets to such a position but most don’t pretend and hide behind a collar
Because the Church of England had only just allowed women bishops and went overboard with trying to show "inclusivity" by appointing women to the higher officers. Thankfully they just caught her before they appointed her otherwise it would have been even more embarrassing. I read they are trying to bring back defrocking because of her.
Same reason the BBC is stuffed to the gills with privately educated ponces. Whom, btw, prosecuted 47,622 people (mostly single mothers) for non-payment of the licence fee. Hislop probably doesn't have a problem with that draconian law and scandal.
You have the 'system' to thank for that. The 'system' that has ruined her credibility and many other lives.
Kudos to Hislop for ensuring the great and the allegedly good are constantly in the spotlight
Ian Hislop should bring out a brand of kitchen knives! The Hislop Slice & Dice - "Ready to be used for the toughest task and will never let you down!"
Sunak spared Paula Vennells a public humiliation by the newspapers. Anyone would think he was trying to upstage the enquiry by standing in the pouring rain, whilst Vennells weeps.
Paula Vennells is also a priest. A lot of good, studying The Bible for years, did her.
I thought Jesus wasn't supportive of liars, and people who like to gain money over the welfare of other human beings? 🤔
Is there a Craggy Island equivalent for Anglican priests? Maybe they should send her there. It's a bit like the money from that Lourdes thing which was resting in Father Ted's account.
I don't think you've quite understood what the Dissolution of the Monasteries was about.
There's also the whole business about the unjustly accused man, whom the powerful continue to persecute despite knowing his innocence, being RIGHT AT THE CENTRE OF THAT RELIGION'S ENTIRE NARRATIVE.
She is ideal for ministry. Twists and turns every answer, and extracts the cash
We have a system where the Church of England forms part of the Government establishment (Bishops in the House of Lords, monarch as head of the church). This isn't based on anything in the New Testament; it undermines Christian teaching and corrupts the church.
3 days of completely unbelievable nonsense. Well done to Hislop and Co for highlighting it early on.
I love Ian heslop when he hits the nail on the head and my god he did with this one
Hyslop and his magazine are possibly the only publisher of the truth and facts remaining in uk
My old man used to have a country man's saying:
"For every rat you catch there's 10 you don't. "
Nowadays it applies more to bureaucrats and politicians than farmyard vermin.
Ian Hislop has rediscovered what he is good at with the Post Office Inquiry
She stole the bonuses she has killed, caused grief, jail her the buck stop at her door and shevis supposed to be a women of cloth. Hypercrit
Many evil people hide in the clergy.
It's not actually theft. Surely it is extortion.....'give us your money or we will have you thrown in prison'.
I have always thought that people who make false accusations should be liable to the same penalty as the victim would get if the accusation was believed. So LOTS of people in the P.O AND their lawyers will be spending decades in prison if I get my way.
I believe Mr Hislop refers to what was done with the money once it had been extorted.
The extra funds made the post office appear more profitable than it was in reality, which means bigger bonuses is for the board members.
They directly gained financially from their behaviour .
Theft by extortion is still theft.
I worked for Royal Mail between 2012 and 2020 and while not the Post Office the same culture trickled down from the top. I suspect the fact that both organisations have the power to 'investigate' themselves might have something to do with it. Don't even get me started on the Communication Workers Union.
The main skill of these people is getting the big jobs and keeping them. Cover ur back merchants
That clip needs playing at the enquiry
Well said Ian Hislop .
Thanks Ian,have been saying for months that all this was remote access straight out Theft.
While not, strictly speaking, theft, which requires the taking to be “without colour of right” with “an intention permanently to deprive” there is, clearly, an offence involved. Most likely it would fall within the definition of “obtaining a pecuniary advantage by deception” and, very definitely, would be within the offence of “false accounting”. So, large amounts of money were stolen by the senior executives of the Post Office, from innocent Postmasters, under threat of prosecution and imprisonment if they did not cough up and, as Ian rightly points out, would have formed part of the sums paid to those senior executives as bonuses. In fact, the senior executives could also easily be guilty of blackmail, in the most classic sense. They approached the innocent Postmasters and said to them “we have something on you, we should go to the Police with it and have you prosecuted, but, if you pay us a large sum of money, we will not prosecute.” That is blackmail, pure and simple. Anyone who has evidence that someone has committed a criminal offence and who, instead of reporting the matter to the Police, approaches the person they consider to be guilty of an offence and promise to keep quiet on payment of a sum of money, is guilty of blackmail. However, as far as Paula Vennells is concerned, who really believes that she was appointed to the position otherwise than on classic principles of patronage? She had the right connections, or her family had the right connections and a plum job in the public sector was on offer and she was considered to have the necessary connections to secure the sinecure? Quite naturally, in those circumstances, she blames those junior executives working under her, since she would never have expected to actually be required to assume personal, direct, responsibility, for running the Post Office.
“Lessons will be learned” (except that they won’t), and nobody responsible will face any consequences.
Thank you Mr Hislop. Again.
Hear, hear, Ian
Y'always get the truth from Ian!
Nothing will happen to Paula Vennels BUT "lessons will be learnt." ..... yeah...right...
My daughter acted like that when she was 9 yrs old
@user-nu7pp8vd9u I hope you made her give the money back...
The timing of the election surely wasn't a coincidence!
Ian Heslop nails exactly what everyone is thinking/saying at home in their living rooms!
If Vennels is able to avoid serious jail time for this, there will be riots outside of Parliament
I gave it the best yrs of my eh, eh, lunch hour.
Paula Vennells 65 is Cressida Dick's evil cousin 63.
She said that for the first 5 years of her working at the PO as md she never realised that they had a prosecutions dept of 100 + staff
There's those (possibly trolls) on here who try to blame the CPS. If the CPS had been allowed anywhere near this it could NOT have happened IMHO. They are aware of the rules of evidence and the rules of disclosure. They would have noticed and questioned a sudden inexplicable plague of dishonesty.
No surprise,she didn't "realise" anything !
Rip Van Winkle slept through it all
Pay your bonus back Paula Vennells.....As you failed
Awful. And frightening. To think
Someone or company could be that evil to you
EVIL is the word.
M`s Vennells is NOT the only individual whom has Let the Public down, but she has been made the scapegoat for all the rest of the RUBBISH management, if they deserve that title.
A trial by jury would be fascinating to follow, how many times could the defendant say “I don’t recall” only to have contradictory evidence produced right after that statement. Slam dunk for the jurists.
She cried for herself because she got caught.
She's covering her back to avoid the risk of a future jail sentence.
I doubt she will do any time but she wont be able to go out now in public without being harassed like the Innocent Sub/PMs was , recon she will get the most hated woman in britain award ......
Oh, don’t you think she has some pretty stiff competition there? Starting with Mrs Thatcher (and somehow it all started with Mrs Thatcher), the tory women haven’t exactly covered themselves in glory.
@leso204 you must have a very short memory. What about the cat bin woman?
@@IAMPLEDGE : cat woman never put anyone into a psychiatric clinic or pushed someone to suicide .....
You can tell she’s lying as her lips are moving. She should be jailed and forced to pay back proceeds of her crimes. 🤬🤬
And Vennells is an Anglican priest?
I’m sure He will have a lot to say about this…. I see heat in her future 🔥
Give them all a fair trial and then give them long sentences!
I feel for the bloke running his post office who was robbed,and told to repay it then was sent to prison 😢
I believe that was part of the new contracts that Vennells thought up and tried to bully all the sub-postmasters into signing.
By the same token, the Post Office stole from the postmasters and so must serve time. Buck stops with Vennels....
No one better to listen to than Ian Hislop when he has a bee in his bonnet!
Million pound compensation, each postmaster.
Well said Ian
Phil "Lime" Wang is in the hotseat this week. can't wait
Never heard of him before but be interesting to see how he did
Wang for King, I say !
Tall guy says”and you work for the Tory party”,
She should have replied “and you work for the bbc”.
Speaking of hands in tills, there's Ruth Davidson
Never heard her speak out about all this before. Vennells CBE, awarded of course by the Tories. Funny how she distances herself from party ideology when it suits.
Well done Ian: also a general comment that the word compensation is used out of context. It’s financial redress plus interest THEN it’s compensation!
Have you swept under the carpet those that died early in shame and hurt?
She should be jailed.if your in charge the buck stops with you.
Everyone at the top of the Post Office that knew the evidence was unsound and kept prosecuting anyway deserves jail time.
If she does not go to jail there is no justice
She would have been a good actress on coronation street being upset that often 😂
How did anybody with her talent for bouts of selective amnesia ever get the job in the first place? - think those involved in 'selecting' her as suitable should be accountable as well - plus all the bonuses her and her hangers-on should be paid back, with interest, as being the proceeds of crime and if not, why not
Honourable people took their lives over this piece of work, if she had and remorse left inside of her she would follow suit!
Well said .
P.Venal, but what about all the rest of them still getting away with it, which judges are going to put their mates in jail?
Extorting money with menices should be a charge against the post office management
I'm not sure I agree with all this. Understandably, Bates et al. want their pound of flesh and the suffering caused warrants it. But I can't see how the inquiry cannot be prejudicial to a future criminal trial. If Hislop's right, then an outright charge of theft must be brought against Vennells .
That's an interesting observation. It may well reassure you that if you take a look at the Memoranda of Agreement between the Metropolitan Police and the Inquiry on the Inquiry's website. Contrary to what many are saying, it shows that the Met are taking this very seriously and they are active. The police inquiry is called Operation Olympus and Nick Wallis' request for information (Met website) reveals they posit a date of 2026 to release the results of their investigation and further action. The Inquiry under the Agreement's terms is being careful not to prejudice any police activity.
Guilt is guilt.
People say that Have I got News for you is a comedy programme
Should be in jail it’s just window dressing questioning these people
How many will see prison???
Answers on a postcard....
I was reminded of a 14 year old girl caught stealing 😮
I love Ian Hislop!!!
The Post Office scandal started in the Blair & Brown years ... LONG before Vennells.
All political parties were in power when this was going on, so what's the point of bringing up Blair and Brown. Tory apologist?
Thought Blairs name would come up in this disgraceful man
Don't forget that woman was a PRIEST.
She will proberbly dissappear abroad with her millions like her oppo has and before any court case
Remove her passport!
Vennell's holier than thou attitude and refusal to accept any responsibility is infuriating!!
Ian Hislop is a national treasure, although I doubt if he would accept a Knighthood.
Ian's right, he can spot corporate sociopaths a mile off
The truth ❤
Happy enough to take responsibility when awarding themselves a massive bonus; can’t recall anything and deny responsibility when caught red handed. Prison time doesn’t seem harsh enough.
An excellent summary…..
She's going to be in the confessional box for some time....
Anglicans don’t go to a confession, unless they’re Anglo Catholic, which she is not. I think she’s a liberal Anglican, which is as good as saying atheist Marxist.
@@marinka424 Reckon it's time she some proper confessing
@@roswilliams2899 I totally agree.She should confess to all the people she’s abused.
Hislop is a national treasure
The crying is a defence mechanism.
Her crying made her face more like a smacked arse than it already is. 😄😄😄
Also it gives her extra time to think up her next "how do I wriggle out of this one?" lie.