The unique selling point of the Butterfly Swords lv2 is that it's the only XP costing weapon that then can be levelled up again. Meaning that instead of having to spend your first 10xp on your lv5 weapons you only have to spend 4xp up front and you can hold of on the remaining 6 until later in the campaign when the enemies start scaling up.
It's worth noting that my brother and I played 2 player with Joe Diamond Fighting with butterfly swords with Jaqueline cluing in innsmouth (on hard no less). Both were flex, but having several attacks to commit vicious blows to with meant the burst damage potential in one action was still good. There's also surprisingly few ways to consistently deal 3 damage in 1 action with 2xp cards (and if you're doing 4 or 5 damage, you'd need 2 or 3 actions anyway, although if you're doing 5 you should be committing vicious blow to do it in 1 action anyway) Overall this is probably more of a reflection of playing in 2 player, with 2 flex characters but i was honestly surprised at how well the card held up on joe. It legit plays better than it looks.
The Hungering Blade, while might not be that good, is damn fun. My Lily Chen double blading the Hungering and the Enchanted Blades or pairing it with the Scroll of Prophecies/Secrets for card draw looked so cool in my head
Early campaign, Joe Diamond appreciates the L0 Sledgehammer as a backup weapon. He's really limited on weapons at L2 Guardian, but the Sledge at least gives him a respectable +2 fight option, and he can uniquely equip it under his handguns, and still have room to equip a magnifying glass..
Great video super informative I'm starting a TFA campaign in 4 players ,I'm Lili Chen and the main fighter . I started with 2 dragon pole 2 enchanted blade and 2 brand of cthuga (1) as my weapons. I don't have return to dunwich so can't play super bandolier. But I'm still gonna go for my best impression of Grevious using butterfly swords. It's just. That art. I wanna play them so bad Even tho they won't do much more than the dragon pole is doing at level 0 . Hahaha
I think the 5 cost for Cyclopean Hammer is mitigated by stick to the plan and ever vigilant. I still run that in every single guardian I build because its just too efficient and I am boring lol. Great video though! I would maybe do another video where you rank green, red and neutral Melee weapons together? That way you could give people advice on when to go for timeworn brand since they dont have access to higher level guardian cards in red and green.
A video I've been waiting for! As a big fan of Mark this is super interesting. I would love to hear your thoughts on: level 2 Survival Knife + 1 good firearm vs Flamethrower. Which one is better? Or should we transition from one to another? Thanks mate!
I’m sure you’ve already heard, but next week a Parallel Investigator is being announced… I have a gut feeling your love saga w/ Jim Culver is to be continued 😅
To be honest, I will be surprised if Runic Axe never gets taboo'ed. It's so good and versatile and there are no weapons I would pick over it as a main.
I don't know how you feel Cyclopean hammer isn't fun. I've play it on Leo and Lily, so far. Fighting with 7-10+ fist without having to commit cards is pretty darn fun.
I have a question about cyclopean hammer. As I understand it doesn't do 3 dmg to elite enemies? But when I listened to you guys it sounded like it does?
Are you responding to their comments on the spear? What a fragile little snowflake. They weren't even criticizing him. Your god is so incredibly petty and pathetic if he requires youtubers to repent about a very gentle joke about a spear. I think you'll find that's just you being overly dramatic.
The unique selling point of the Butterfly Swords lv2 is that it's the only XP costing weapon that then can be levelled up again. Meaning that instead of having to spend your first 10xp on your lv5 weapons you only have to spend 4xp up front and you can hold of on the remaining 6 until later in the campaign when the enemies start scaling up.
Butterfly swords when you have Lita Chantler is sick. Like, one extra damage for each attack, but you get to attack twice for one action.
I love the fact that Sledgehammer (4) gains 5 pounds of steel vengeance compared to the level 0 version.
It's worth noting that my brother and I played 2 player with Joe Diamond Fighting with butterfly swords with Jaqueline cluing in innsmouth (on hard no less). Both were flex, but having several attacks to commit vicious blows to with meant the burst damage potential in one action was still good. There's also surprisingly few ways to consistently deal 3 damage in 1 action with 2xp cards (and if you're doing 4 or 5 damage, you'd need 2 or 3 actions anyway, although if you're doing 5 you should be committing vicious blow to do it in 1 action anyway)
Overall this is probably more of a reflection of playing in 2 player, with 2 flex characters but i was honestly surprised at how well the card held up on joe. It legit plays better than it looks.
"Do you want a machete, or.....
😱tHe HuNgErInG bLAdE?!😱"
"Uhhh... machete plz 🥴"
So if i use enchant weapon on enchanted blade it becomes an enchanted enchanted blade?
The Hungering Blade, while might not be that good, is damn fun. My Lily Chen double blading the Hungering and the Enchanted Blades or pairing it with the Scroll of Prophecies/Secrets for card draw looked so cool in my head
Early campaign, Joe Diamond appreciates the L0 Sledgehammer as a backup weapon. He's really limited on weapons at L2 Guardian, but the Sledge at least gives him a respectable +2 fight option, and he can uniquely equip it under his handguns, and still have room to equip a magnifying glass..
Great video super informative
I'm starting a TFA campaign in 4 players ,I'm Lili Chen and the main fighter . I started with 2 dragon pole 2 enchanted blade and 2 brand of cthuga (1) as my weapons. I don't have return to dunwich so can't play super bandolier. But I'm still gonna go for my best impression of Grevious using butterfly swords. It's just. That art. I wanna play them so bad
Even tho they won't do much more than the dragon pole is doing at level 0 .
Hahaha
One time we see Butterfly sword REALLY shine is in Scarlet Keys, where you basically don't waste any damage and a king at exposing cards.
I think the 5 cost for Cyclopean Hammer is mitigated by stick to the plan and ever vigilant. I still run that in every single guardian I build because its just too efficient and I am boring lol.
Great video though! I would maybe do another video where you rank green, red and neutral Melee weapons together? That way you could give people advice on when to go for timeworn brand since they dont have access to higher level guardian cards in red and green.
Lily Chen with Butterfly Swords, Galvanise, and her agility discipline is a good time.
Survival knife deserves #1, free actions are just so powerful.
Sledgehammer level 5 in Leo Anderson. Full stop. All the actions you'll ever need
Definitely do Rouge and Survivor! Would love to see that.
Thanks for the list!
A video I've been waiting for! As a big fan of Mark this is super interesting. I would love to hear your thoughts
on: level 2 Survival Knife + 1 good firearm vs Flamethrower. Which one is better? Or should we transition from one to another?
Thanks mate!
I’m sure you’ve already heard, but next week a Parallel Investigator is being announced… I have a gut feeling your love saga w/ Jim Culver is to be continued 😅
I have heard! I await eagerly for the chance of Parallel Jim.
To be honest, I will be surprised if Runic Axe never gets taboo'ed. It's so good and versatile and there are no weapons I would pick over it as a main.
My only problem with survival knife, is if the enemy has retaliate. If I fail, i'm just getting smacked twice.
I don't know how you feel Cyclopean hammer isn't fun. I've play it on Leo and Lily, so far. Fighting with 7-10+ fist without having to commit cards is pretty darn fun.
Axe is amazing, and it was so underrated when it first came out (iirc even by this channel) because it wasn't as flashy as the other ones.
Blackjack: if that enemy has dealt damage to another investigator since the end of the last investigator phase, deal +1 damage
Upgraded Survival Knife is part of the reason I want Return To boxes to return.
Butterfly swords is a bit better in TSK since it can reveal two concealed cards with the two attacks.
I don't think that's enough to even sway our ranking of it though. Another nice home for it, at least!
I have a question about cyclopean hammer. As I understand it doesn't do 3 dmg to elite enemies? But when I listened to you guys it sounded like it does?
The non-elite text on Cyclopean Hammer refers to moving the enemy, not the damage. :)
@@PlayingBoardGames That makes it very much stronger than how I interpreted it as =)
What about both levels boxing gloves?!?!?
Or is that your secret #1 and 2 on the Patron-only list? 😂
They're not a melee weapon oddly enough!
@@PlayingBoardGames *Insert the "The More You Know" GIF
Rank allies
What's that t-shirt Justin is wearing? Some zoo, or?
It's a shirt for the book Animal Farm.
I'm surprised the upgraded Thompson didn't make the cut
Where is Flamethrower tho :o
This is Melee weapons only
@@douglasmurray2147With Act of Desperation, everything is a melee weapon for Mark.
he sure likes those masks lol
So?
He also has long hair
They also often show a cat
Do you like the Arkham content?
If not why not gtfo and shut it?
Mocking the Messiah who died for the sins of the world is deeply offensive.... Repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Are you responding to their comments on the spear? What a fragile little snowflake. They weren't even criticizing him.
Your god is so incredibly petty and pathetic if he requires youtubers to repent about a very gentle joke about a spear. I think you'll find that's just you being overly dramatic.