2018 Pivot Mach 6 First Look & Test ride at Outerbike in Moab, Utah
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I titled this a "FIRST LOOK" instead of the usual "review" After watching back the footage, I just didn't do a proper review... this trail was just so technical I could never get into a rhythm in terms of talking about the bike... The trail was so demanding I had to stay focused and not talk as much... I will be riding this bike again soon. Needless to say, the Mach 6 is one of my very favorite bikes I've ridden this year. I was planning on purchasing the Mach 6 or Ibis HD4 to replace my Santa Cruz Nomad... this Mach 6 is incredible!!!
Maybe because you were thrown into the fire with an unfamiliar bike, speaks volumes for its capabilities!Love your vids, and have come to really value your reviews and opinions.
Looking forward to a review of this bike on your local trails.
I'm with Robert on his comment about your commitment 😁.... I watch every video you put up bro, keep up the great work! 🚵💨
Robert Oda, yeah.... this was tough trail for sure! The Mach 6 handled it like a champ. Super capable bike! Thank you!
Mitch Moe, thank you for the support! Love the Mach 6 but this trail.... eashhhh. Wish you guys could watch the footage unedited... I was getting super frustrated with this never ending trail of death...
That looks too be a very challenging trail and the way the bike handles the rough rocky trails that was really awesome 👏👍😎
Super rough trail for sure!
Great vid! Came over from BKXC. I have a 2016 M6 and was considering updating to the 2018, been waiting for a chance to test ride. Your review just confirmed I need to go jump on one! Also watched your review on the Wreckoning, how do they compare? Keep up the good work!
Welcome, glad you made it over here! Dude, go ride the new Mach 6 asap! You won't be disappointed! I almost bought the M6 after this day of riding it... ended up with the Ibis HD4 instead but safe to say, these are my two favorite 27.5 wheel sized bikes I've ridden this year! The Wrecker is a completely different experience so it's difficult to compare the two... they just do things differently. The M6 climbs better then the Wreck but deciding on a long travel 29er will make easy work out of just about any trail... it's ridiculous. I had a lot of fun on the Wreckoning but for me, long travel bikes are 27.5 all day, every day! I know the 29ers are fast, hold speed and roller over.... but, I have more fun on long travel 27.5 bikes. I should mention, I'm on the short side at 5'8"... I have a short travel 29er also! Enjoy, thanks for commenting and stick around and share in any way you feel comfortable. Lot of good information here so please feel free to add to it!
MTB yumyum thanks! I'm right there with ya only 5'10" and also have a short travel 29er. I'm guessing I probably agree with your sentiment on the long travel 29 vs 27.5 but I have not got on a 29 LT yet. Thanks for all the info and I agree lots of good info!
Favorite and insane part was at 7:50 great job !!
haha yeah, this trails was crazy and had some exposure toward the end... super fun trail though!
Even I was exhausted at the end of that ride.. that trail is SICK 🤕
more like makes you sick.... haha The last half was better and the end, killerbees trail, was really fun! Lot's of exposure at the end there!
I demo'd that bike as well before settling on the SB5. It is absolutely awesome and so good on the descents. Patiently waiting for that review to see what you think and if it aligned with what I though. My decision was really between the Mach 6 and the SB5 and what sold me was the climbing ability of the SB5. I thought it was a better climber and could get just as rowdy descending. I'm curious what your thoughts are between the two as well.
Interesting. Glad you found your bike dude! Everyone has their own bike out there... that's fits them, their terrain or riding style best. This Mach 6 is easily one of the best bikes I've ridden this year. I would say in the Yeti line-up, the SB6 is a better comparison to this Mach 6. The SB5 is a more playful and snappy bike... I'll try and get it uploaded in the next few weeks!
C'mon...you're in Moab and you mention Jacob's ladder???!! Moab is the prime place to test the kinds of bikes you ride. That Mach 6 is meant to eat up that type of terrain. Seeing a 160mm bike fly down a flow trail is like watching a Ford Raptor ride down the interstate. Thanks for posting the review on its intended terrain!
hahaha calling me out! That's awesome. Yeah, honestly I need to get out and ride more places. Moab and St George are about 3 hours drive, American Fork Canyon, Park City/Canyons/Deer Valley are all with 45 minutes drive... The Mach 6 was rad! Trail was incredible with lots of tough terrain and the bike was right in it's element! Thanks for the comment and hope you stick around for future videos!
Great video, wish you would have taken that bike down the whole enchilada, or at least the lps. You would have gotten a lot better sense of what that bike was made for.
Dig your reviews.
Totally... plan on taking this bike out again as soon as possible. Overall, I still loved this bike given the difficult terrain.
MTB yumyum, what where the reasons you choose the HD4 over the Mach 6?
I could have gone either way because they were both just so good... easily my two favorite bikes so far! This may sound odd but I liked the color more on the HD4, wanted to try the new 2.6 tire trend and honestly, I asked for a discount from both bike shops and got a little better deal on the Ibis... Again, these have been my two favorite bikes so far and I've been super happy with the HD4 and really glad I got the bike with the 2.6 tires... it's been a lot of fun and feel like I'm a better rider after having ridden this HD4 more than 300 miles already!
Whoa! Nice riding. Dang it, I bought the switchblade and ride it in 29er with the headset cup still in, I love it. However, that mach 6, hummm, wish I through a leg over that one before I bought.
haha don't get down on yourself about the Switchblade... All time one of my favorite 29ers... Excited to see whats next for the Switchblade... due for a refresh in the next 6-12 months I would guess!
YUM YUM, dont feel bad for getting lost i have done that countless times lol ....i watched the video from the Loam Ranger when he went to visit the Pivot manufacturer and it totally changed my perspective on the brand, i was very skeptical. Sweet trail BTW
Dude, I've loved just about every Pivot bike I've ridden... needless to say, I"m a sucker for DW bikes! This Mach 6 is incredible... If it's on your list of bikes, go ride it!
will consider it thanks again man!
Nice ride and a great impressions of that bike. I tend to believe that a trail like this shows a lot how capable a bike is. Especially with lots of technical climbing in between.
That's true for sure! I would liked to have had more time on the bike at higher speeds... over 25 mph to get a better idea of the stability... bike felt rad and just did everything well!
Hey. I had a look on that vid as at some point I am going to build me an Allmountain/Not-RaceEnduro as backup for my thunderbolt 2019 for the harder trips. How would you compare that bike to the Altitude? Head Angle is less aggressive though it should be more of an Enduro as the altitude. And how about DW compared to Smoothlink. My VPP similar experiences were not that good due to high pedal kickback, while the Smoothlink is more active but gets deep in the travel/uncomfortable on climbs for the altitude (while brilliant on the thunderbolt). I really like the idea of building a pivot from this with airshock but mrp ribbon coil fork... And the frame is affordable for a pivot
4:40 CRINKLE CRINGE
How does it compare to the Firebird? Huge difference in ride feel? 🤔
Great question... When I first rode the Firebird over a year ago I fell in love with it! Incredible bike but I just couldn't justify it... I didn't need a bike that big. Well, the Mach 6 does everything the firebird does only I think it's more nimble and climbs better. If you're smashing park days all year get the Firebird... but if this is your only bike or just ride park on occasion, this bike will blow your mind! The and the Ibis HD4 are my top 2 bikes of the year!
Just had to put away my commencal meta 4.2 am... end of the year in wisco. Any storage tips for winter? I've never owned a bike this nice before
I'm about to that point myself... I rode today but there was a dusting of snow on the trails... I leave my bikes inside the house. I'm always afraid I'll forget to close the garage one night and wake up to my bikes missing. So, inside the house they stay!
haha my wife doesn't mind... I've turn our "formal living room" into a bike shop hahaha nobody uses formal living rooms any more do they?!
2:07 You've found the black trail, You've mentioned at the beginning ha ha ha
hahaha
Haha I hear ya, climbing sucks but hopefully it was worth it!!
Hi, 2018 Pivot Mach 6 or Santa Cruz Nomad 2017?
Sweet video man, I own an aluminum Mach 6 and love it. The DW-Link just feels great. Subscribed!
haha Welcome! Glad you get it.... I loved my time on the Mach 6 and if it weren't for the Ibis HD4 I would have bought this bike. I was stuck between the two but in the end went with the HD4. Just love the feel of DW bikes! Thanks bro!
I guess you would have liked the 5.5 as well if it came with a pair 2.3 DHFs. It comes alive with narrower rubber.
Yeah, that might have been the case... hard to say without giving it a try... I like the HD4 with 2.6 tires...
I was wondering that when I demoed it. Not a fan of 2.6's...felt muted and squirmy in the corners. The SB I demoed was better I'm almost certain because of the narrower tires.
Shane Kweens I guess it comes down to riding conditions and personal preferences. My trails here in Germany are as far from Moab as possible: due to permanent rain its almost always wet and muddy, i.e. not the place for 2.6s to shine. But my best riding buddy still prefers his Fatbike where I love my Shorty/DHF 2.3 combo on the 5.5...
This vid goes to show the techy prowess of the bike. Very brutal trail.
Totally.... I get asked all the time how I'm able to talk so well while riding... well, goes to show how well I know my trail system that I usually review bikes on including how flow trails are compared with this incredible amount of tech. Fun though... just wasn't sure what I was getting myself into. I love tech trails but probably not best for reviewing a bike. Some higher speed stuff would have been nice!
You mention below that your favorite 27.5 bikes of the year are the M6 adn the HD4, and your two favorite 29ers are the Rocky Mountain Instinct and the SC HT/LT. Do you have a review in the queue for the RM instinct? I really enjoy your work and trust your reviews. Thanks!
Yes, I'll be uploading the Instinct video soon... I don't have a schedule per say, but it should be in the next 3-5 weeks! I demo'd it about a month ago and it is without a doubt the best climbing 140mm 29er bike out there... I felt the same way about the Altitude... These Rocky Mountains just climb so well.
Just bought one of these, maybe the best bike i have ever riden and owned.
One of my favorite 27.5 bikes!
That would be the kind of trail you'd buy that kind of travel for. There's very few trails I see the need to go beyond my 2018 Tallboys travel. Reminds me a lot of my two closest trails. Rocks and more rocks! I almost would prefer more bottom bracket clearance than any other attribute in very rock terrain.
Yeah, I was glad to be on the Mach 6 on this trail... Riding a trail for the first time you often times don't know what you're getting into. btw, I love the Tallboy!
The more I see of Moab , the more daunting it looks, bike looks good, handles it well 👍🏻
Honestly, this is one of the most technical trails I've ever ridden... it just didn't stop. up, down, up, down... square edge after square edge... tough riding for sure! There are a lot more "fun" trails out there... This was my first time on deadmans, longbranch and killer bees... killer bees was awesome though!
MTB yumyum , I would love to come over and try these myself one day, I can keep hoping. It’s still a good day to be a mountain biker 😀
Absolutely!
Moab has every level of riding. One thing that is different though if you don't normally live in the desert is that there are few trees (shade) and you are often on rock surfaces rather than dirt. It is a wonderful place to ride with unique scenery and extensive well-marked trails.
Should have demo'd the 6 instead of 5.5 nice job man.
Yeah, did you buy the 5.5?
Out of the Firebird, Mach 6, and Switchblade, which would you recommend as a good bike for trail riding, but also something you can bring to the mountain and hit downhill runs on?
Switchblade is an incredibly versatile bike for a 29er! For me, I'd likely go with the Mach 6... it's been one of my favorite bikes I've ridden to date!
When you road with BKXC you used a pair of covers for your knees and put knee pads over them. What is their company and their name? And, where can I buy them? Thanks for the videos!
I have a few different pairs... I think those one I got off Nashbar for like $12 Cannondale brand... I also have a pare of LG and Pearl Izumi... They're just need covers or warmers
lunch ride sb5 has 36 fox up front and a dpx2 piggy back shock, xo1 eagle and turquoies frame and sram guide src with 180 rotars. We all have to find what fits us. But sure love watching you test bikes, thanks for doing it.
Wow, I didn't know what you were saying when you said, lunch ride... you're right, that sounds like a sic bike! Thank for letting me know!
Nice job hitting that trail blind Jason!
haha, dude, it was no joke... That's some rowdy terrain. The Mach 6 was the right tool for the job too!
Hey mate love the reviews! Can you do a chameleon review? Would love to know just how much slower it is on by comparison to a dualie on your locals....
Cheers Sam Australia
Unfortunately I don't have access to a chameleon.... It would have a hard time keeping up on Jacobs Ladder.. just about everywhere else you'd be close.
On that trail you really have to control your breathing. It doesn't really give you any breaks so if your'e not controlling your breathing youll find yourself lying on the side of the trail somewhere
haha totally... so much fun but a lot of work for sure!
Where's the corner canyon follow up review? I feel it's way overdue like you needing to re-stain your fence
haha everyone's all up in my business about my fence lol looks like we need to have a fence painting party?!?!?!?!
I'm between this bike and the 5.5 I want to fun bike does nimble and Poppy and I want to support my local bike shop and by a pivot I'm coming from a 2017 Santa Cruz tallboy carbon and just blowing through my travel with my increasing skill and want to do more jumps drop and technical stuff but love high speed Trails like your local Trails is my main goal bike setup
Nice, good luck on what bike you choose... they're both incredible!
AWESOME ride!! I lol'd the whole time..... oh, and the review was good too!
haha the review was meh... but, this bike is ridiculous! That trail is horrible... lol
Go demo a yeti sb5 lunch ride for me please
Rode it about a month ago... will like upload the video first of the year!
Great ride and review J.
Where’s all the flow in Moab??
It’s in between all the rocks 😀
Something like that... safe to say there's very little flow on Deadmans, Lang Branch and Killer Bees trails... crazy amount of tech on this one for sure!
I like what you do yumyum. Keep it up!!🚵
haha thanks bro! Thanks for the support!
As far as that up hill stuff... I hear ya fun trails but you feel like 3/4 of it is up. I grew up in Durango and that is how trails are there and love it you go up you go down.
Yeah, most of the trail I ride have long consistent climbs followed by really good long descents.... this trail was killing me... haha
This bike is awesome but I wish these bike companies would stop making awesome bikes because every time I see a new I wanna buy it .
Totally right?! Makes me want to get a new bike every 4-5 months...
Nice ride! Don't worry about it, we understand a little negativity from time to time
yeah, thanks dude! Tough trail but loved the Mach 6!
Looks so difficult to see where the trail even goes out there...maybe easier in person
Yeah, it's a bit easier in person but still tough... this was a super fun and technical trail!
Have you riden Rocky Mountain Slayer, and how would you compare Mach6 or N4 to it?
Unfortunately, I've not had the chance to ride the Slayer... Looks incredible!
I love that you can carry on a conversation while climbing that stuff.
haha this was a tough one for sure... Not as fit right now as I'm am back in June-August... Thanks bro!
I’ve been told the Firebird climbs well enough that giving up the travel for the Mach 6 isn’t worth it. Thoughts? Also, I’m currently torn between the HTLT and the Firebird/Mach 6 as a one bike owner. We ride mostly big climbs and rowdy descents (priority) in the PNW. How much downhill love will I miss going with the HTLT? Cheers
You wont miss too much "downhill love" going with the LT... it's an excellent do everything 29er. I'd say pick a wheel size. So, to make your decision more complicated, I liked the Mach 6 better than the Firebird for a trail bike and I like the Firebird and Mach 6 better than the Hightower LT overall but... BUT!... If I could only have one bike, I'd have to be a 29er... so :) Hope that helps! If it were me and I could only have one bike, it would be either an Ibis Ripley or Rocky Mountain Instinct just depending on how much travel I really thought I needed for the trails/terrain I ride most often. Good luck!
Thanks for the feedback. I checked out the Instinct BC this week, it would have been my 1st choice of 29ers. I’ve decided my riding style and size best fits a 27. We ride steep, tight, rugged trails, not much XC, so I’m looking for more travel. Going with the Firebird! Looking forward to your reviews of future long travel 29ers. Seems like they’re evolving like the 27’s have, more travel, yet better climbing and handling. Should be a big crop over the next year or two. Cheers!
Hi again, Why the Mojo over the Mach 6 and the Nomad over the Firebird? Cheers
Wow what a great video Jay. Really good perspective on what you were feeling out there. I was surprised you could talk as much as you did. That was epic rough. My 2014 Mach 6 is still one of the best bikes I’ve ridden so I can only imagine what the new one is like. And to think you like the HD4 even better!
Dean, this was some rugged terrain for sure! Yeah... I went with the HD4 but honestly I could have gone either way... where it was so close it really came down to the little stuff like, the fit was a little better on the HD4 with a slightly shorter reach and I went with a size Medium and 40mm stem. Also liked the color just a bit better... my Nomad was black and I sorted wanted a bright bike.. the blue on this Mach 6 was about the same as the Switchblade (if not the exact paint code) so I wanted something different and the Fireball red HD4..... theres just nothing like it! Last of all, I sort of wanted to try out this latest crop of 2.6 larger "standard" tires... also, you can get the HD4 with an X2.... I was sold! These bikes are so similar it's crazy. I feel like they climb better than any other bikes in the category... I put them in the same category as the new Nomad and Firebird... they're just about as capable on the down hill but overall better trail bikes in my opinion. Also, slightly slacker hta on the Ibis. That was long... sorry!
MTB yumyum hey don’t be sorry Jay. I could talk about this stuff all day and really appreciate your long detailed reply buddy. That’s some really interesting information.
thanks for the comment, your comments are as good as the videos. Thanks for taking the time to respond to people. I've been torn between the mach 6 and hd4 myself. I think I'm leaning towards the hd4 for the same reasons, x2, reach and fit, wide tire (some like it, some Don't) . I think the 160 mm post mount is an advantage for the hd4, Its hard to get a fox transfer down all the way on the mach 6 . I don't care for the high rollers that come on the mach 6. The spec is perfect on the hd4 imho. eagle, fox transfer -no reverb!, xt brakes. The red, and silver lime are awesome. My only question is, did you spring for the 742 carbon wheels?
How does the Mach 6 compare to the Firebird? I had the first version Mach 6 then got a new Firebird. Had the Firebird 15 months. Looking at possible going back to the Mach 6 as my do everything bike. Any feedback would help.
Thanks Jason
The Mach 6 and the Ibis HD4 are my two favorite bikes I've ever ridden. I also really loved the Firebird but the trail manners are a little better on the Mach 6. Between the current Mach 6 and Firebird, I'd go Mach 6. I'd also try and demo the Ibis HD4... both incredible bikes and I'd be happy with either. I ended up buying the HD4 good luck!
I got to demo a 5.5 large and loved it. However it is out of budget range. But I did discover the Mach 6 aluminum is. I am 5'10" would the Mach 6 large be the the right fit and do you think I would like the M6 better?
I personally liked the Mach 6 better the first day I rode both of them... yeah, I think a large would be about the right fit for you! Good luck!
Thanks for the reply.
The trail looks like so much fun!
Totally, it's crazy the stuff you can climb up in Moab... so much traction. Fun trail for sure.... wasn't expecting it though... Thx!
Nice riding
Do you need to shuttle to those trails. Been to Moab many times...never heard of those trails.
No shuttle, just head to the Bar M area and you'll find these trails!
MTB yumyum
Very cool TY
Have you ridden the new Evil Following MB yet?
I've not ridden the MB... looking forward to it though!
decided to demo this next weekend. pumped to give it a go
Nice, it has been to this day one of my favorite bikes.... I was torn between it and the Ibis HD4.... enjoy!
Thanks for a very helpful and transparent review/experience. Sounded like not the best type of trsail for a review for you, but I loved this video because it captures the experiences that a lot of us have when we get on new trails, especially the more challenging ones. At about 10:40 when you come across the “Danger” sign and the reaction to the exposure, we have been there many times. Love it, one reason mt. Biking is still an adventure. Thanks!
haha, yeah thank you! I try to find trails with a bit more flow for video reviews...
Thanks for the information about this bike!
You got it pal!
I really enjoyed this video and actually all your reviews! I demoed a Mach 5.5 at a local demo day recently and loved it. How does the Mach 6 compare with climbing? Does the extra travel effect how it climbs in a negative way at all?
Honestly, I felt like they climbed equally well. I wouldn't say one's better than the other... I got along better with the M6! Super fun bike that just did everything better than I though it would.
Excellent video! You have some Mad-Skillz. I can't believe how you handled that trail. Was in Moab in Sept for the first time. Some of those trails are real eye-openers. Took my 2016 - Mach 6. It was a lot of fun.
However I am seriously considering selling my M6 as Geo has never worked for me. I'm 5'10" with just under 34" inseam and have always felt it was a little too short. Was seriously considering the 5.5 (like the new Geo), but still not sure. Watched your test ride on it and it appeared you liked it a lot. However you seem to like it less after the M6. Can you elaborate a little on why? Your input would be appreciated.
Yeah, it would be best to demo both if you've narrowed it down to just these two bikes... The Mach 5.5 is a great bike but these are my gripes. They've built it to feel and act like a big bike but it's not. It doesn't have that snappy poppy feel that you'd think a 140mm bike would have. The Bronson is more poppy than the M5.5 I think they list the Mach 5.5 on the Pivot website under the XC/Trail bikes category... I honestly can't think of a single person on this planet that would want the M5.5 as a XC bike... seriously, it's laughable. If you want a bike that feels almost like a Firebird but with slightly better trail manners skip the 5.5 and get the M6. It climbs better than the Firebird and about the same as the M5.5... maybe better?! If it's a lively fun poppy mid travel 27.5 bike you're after look to the Santa Cruz 5010 or the Ibis Mojo 3... The Mach 5.5 is cool looking and a nice bike but who would buy it?! Sorry.... rant over... that was bad sorry. Not deleting it though...
MTB yumyum thank you for the replies!
Excellent review again Jason. How does this compare to the SC Hightower LT?
eash.... just different. I liked it better than the LT but they're different bikes. I'm sort of a DW link fan'boy so... haha I really liked this Mach 6. a lot!
MTB yumyum Hi Jason, how do you mean “different”? And I’d be also interested to ear from you how the Mach compare to the SC Bronson.
The Mach 6 is more composed at speed and climbs better. I'm very interested to see what changes come to the next Bronson... we'll see I guess!
What build is this one you tested
pro xtr/xt
Hi. Nice review! I am looking at a firebird, but have started looking at a Mach 6 as well. I do have quite rought trails in my backyard that would suit the firebird perfectly. But how would the mach 6 compare on the really rough stuff? And how would the firebird compare on more pedaling trails ? Cheers from Norway
Honestly, I think that Mach 6 is just about the perfect long travel bike! Depends if you can have two mountain bikes at a time? If you can only have one mountain bike at a time, go with the Mach 6... it is more "trail" friendly....
"Where the heck am I?" 2:15 - You know, the older I get - the more I feel that way - lol
How did the bike compare to the Firebird you tested a while back? I am debating between the two bikes right now. Thanks!
Luckly I just recently spend a day on the Firebird after I rode the Mach 6. I'd say the Mach 6 is the better bike for 90% of the people out there. It can do shuttle runs and park duty but it's the better trail bike. More nimble and poppy. Also not as long... I really got along well with this bike and almost bought it... I got blinded by the Ibis HD4... I otherwise would own the Mach 6 right now. If you haven't been around the channel much I'll let you know, I love the Firebird... but it's a big bike...
Thanks for the reply! Just a brief personal bike history: I'm coming off of a v10 and a fuel ex and I sold both to simplify it down to one bike. I plan on racing both DH and Enduro as well. Thanks again for your advice!
Yeah, the Mach 6 could for sure fill this role I would think! Good luck in the search. For sure check out the Firebird, Santa Cruz Nomad and my personal favorite, the Ibis HD4 before you pull the trigger on the Mach 6... these should all give you a good perspective as to what's the best fit for you!
Thanks!
My feelings exactly!! 😄👍
haha cant wait to get back out on this bike on a trail I'm more familiar with... over all, best bike in the Pivot lineup in my opinion!
nice vlog.. any chance you could actually show us what the bike looks like? ? thanks for the review.. my money's on the firebird. .
Hum, Yeah... haha I need to remember to do an nice video over view to lay over my talking.... I do it on a lot of the other video reviews but sometimes forget...
Awesome review - curious about your comparison of this bike to the Firebird. I had the prev generation M6 and sold it because the reach was just too short. The Firebird answered my needs - how do you think the Firebird would have performed on that trail up and down?
Luckly I just recently spend a day on the Firebird after I rode the Mach 6. I'd say the Mach 6 is the better bike for 90% of the people out there. It can do shuttle runs and park duity but it's the better trail bike. More nimble and poppy. Also not as long... I really got along well with this bike and almost bought it... I got blinded by the Ibis HD4... I otherwise would own the Mach 6 right now. If you haven't been around the channel much I'll let you know, I love the Firebird... but it's a big bike...
How does this bike compare to the new nomad and RM altitude? What's the better pedaling, handling and descending bike?
Climbs better than the Nomad but feels more like a trail bike.... the Altitude is not as burly as the Mach 6 but climbs well
Perfect Saturday night viewing with a beer!
Glad I could make it on the itinerary! I'd like to commit to 2 videos a week but I'm worried I wont be able to deliver.... thinking Tuesdays and Saturdays.
I absolutely love your videos man! You shouldn't feel under pressure to upload them so frequently though...Im happy to see a notification of an upload from you anytime! Did you demo the YT Jeffsy yet ?
No... I seriously went to the YT tent at Outerbike like 10 times... the 29ers in size medium were impossible to get. They had the 27.5 bike there but meh.... that bikes a 29er imho!
MTB yumyum Hahaa! I have the 29er it's my first full suspension bike and I love it! Would like to see what you would have thought of it! Anyway thanks for the reply man... Greetings from Ireland!
I'm sure I'll get a chance to ride it before too long! Thanks for watching!
tnx
You got it pal!
Which mach 6 were you riding ? Race ? PRO ? XT1 ? X01 ?
XT as I recall...
Is this an enduro bike?
review the giant stance 1
I'll see if I can get my hands on one...
Mach 6 or hd4 if you had to pick one!?
I could go either way, I own the Ibis HD4 but I love the way both these bike ride. Ibis looks better in my opinion, I've also really enjoyed the slightly wider 2.6 tires of the HD4.... Water bottle fits better in the HD4 as well... these were a few of the things that pushed me toward the Ibis. Good luck!
excellent video
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.
omg. Those switchbacks at the end had me on the edge there! Nicely done!
haha unfortunately that was the best part of that trail... lot of up down up down... never really found a flow on this one...
Hey, great channel! I'm wondering if you could compare it to the HD4. Which would you go with?
Interesting you would ask... I was torn between the two bikes. I've been looking for a longer travel 27.5 bike and had settled in on the M6 or HD4. I ended up buying the HD4 in Fireball Red. (follow me on Instagram as my UA-cam is a good 2 months behind real life)
Why I went with the HD4... You can get it with the Fox Float X2 stock, It has a slightly shorter reach than the M6, I'm 5'8" on a Medium with a 40mm stem, I love the Red Ibis paint job and wanted to try a bike with the new 2.6 standard tires... so, that's it! Could have gone either way. I knew I wanted DW link, long travel, water bottle in the triangle after that's it was just a matter of finding a bike with total stability and high speed confidence with the most amount of lively, poppy feel to it.... That was the list and the HD4 and Mach 6 were the top choices for me. HD4 is incredible... The M6 is a very close second place for me! Hope that helps!
Thanks for your reply! Congrats on the new bike! I am also wondering how the HD4 compared to your old Nomad 3? I've been on an HD3 for about 3 years now, and briefly demoed the Nomad.
Just Demo’d a Switchblade and a Mach 6....can’t decide!!!! Help! Haha.
haha pick a wheel size... if you want 27.5 go Mach 6... if you want 29er I'd hold off on the switchblade personally.... I think a new blade is on it's way?!?!?! I loved the Mach 6 though...
MTB yumyum That’s what I’m thinking man. They hinted at a new Switchblade at the demo I went to. I was definitely feeling that 29 inch wheel setup. Just felt smooth over everything I rode. Will most likely wait it out to see if a new Switchblade comes out this year. Can’t wait to see what they come up with!
Yeah, if you can wait you should... if I could only have one bike it would be the Switchblade over the Mach 6 but dang.... that Mach 6 is good!
I got to get out to Moab this year!
Dude, make it happen in the Spring for Outerbike.... such a good event!
Oh yeah! I might just do that. It would be cool if there could be a Yum Yum group ride or something. Do they have a secure bike check if you BYOB?
I noticed that Outerbike also is coming to NW Arkansas in October too which is driving distance for me. That being said, Moab is a dream location, NW Arkansas is similar to what I ride and I can go there anytime I want (half day drive for me).
Yes, you could bring your own bike but I'd just come and try out the dozens of demo bikes available... so much fun!
Definitely will demo some bikes, but also want to ride my own bike on some trails too...
I think this is going to happen. Working on getting my two brothers who are big mountain bikers from Washington State to have a bit of reunion down there.
I'm dying to get to Moab. Looks like a riot. Nice riding.
Book your trip for Outerbike in the Spring... I'll be there for sure!
I'm a teacher. My time to play is July/August. I do get a week in mid-March. I heard the weather a little all over the place that time of year.
Yeah, but you should be good in March for a Moab trip. Better than July or August to be honestly with ya!
How does the mach 6 ride compared to the 429t?
Totally different bikes made for different terrain in my opinion... There are better short travel 29ers out there that I'd go with over the 429 Trail.... there aren't many longer travel bikes that I'd pick over this Mach 6.... it's that good! My second favorite bike of the year for sure!
Great ride Jason, what is your favorite bike of the year? How does the Mach 6 compare to the RM Instinct/Pipeline?
Favorite bike(s) of the year would have to be the Ibis HD4, Pivot Mach 6 for the 27.5 bikes and Santa Cruz Hightower LT and Rocky Mountain Instinct for the 29er's. I was trying to decide between the Mach 6 and HD4 for my next bike.... went with the HD4
MTB yumyum Oh snap you got the hd4?..Sweet!! I really like the dw link bikes as well. Maybe you can review the devinci django 29. I'm interested in that one..dw split pivot bike. Btw, you got me scared there at around 8:50 on one of those tight switchbacks..scary.
haha dude, those switchbacks were no joke.... scary for sure! If only I posted click bate I could have titled this video, "scariest most dangerous switchbacks evvvvverrrrrr!!! on a Mach 6, DANGER DANGER DANGER" hahaha lol
No I demo'd 5.5 and didn't like it. Selling my norco sight carbon and saving up for a yeti sb5 lunch ride.
Interesting... I've heard good things about the sight... never ridden one myself. For what it's worth, I didn't love the SB5... I felt like the SB4.5 did everything better.. maybe try to ride both before you buy?! Good luck!
MTB yumyum sb4. 5 is sick... Just wish it had a bit more out back.. Like a 130mm
Do you like this more than the Ibis HD4 ? Seems like they both have 6 inches and similar head angles. Which one is more plush vs. climbs better? Thanks.
Dave M, please take a minute and go check out some of my other more recent videos... check out my 100 mile HD4 video! I bought the Ibis.... lots of good content I think you'll enjoy! Thanks!
I watched that video. I gather you like the ibis and that it is super fast. can you comment on the descending and climbing vs. the mach 6 ? Really you are one of the few humans to ride both ( who does videos)... you really should do a shootout vidieo ; 2018 mahc 6 vs. hd4. These are really the two heavy weight entries in the 6 inch category... that would be a sick video my friend...