E41-2 - Ryan O'Hearn Ejected After 2nd Strikeout & Brandon Hyde Also Tossed by Umpire Alex Tosi
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- HP Umpire Alex Tosi ejected Orioles DH Ryan O'Hearn and manager Brandon Hyde after arguing a strike three call in the 9th inning of Baltimore's loss to Washington. Report: www.closecalls...
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Great video as usual. 👍
Lindsey, You should’ve seen O’ Hearn’s post game dialog about adding challenges.
1:20 "How To Take a Strike Away From Your Pitcher - Exhibit A"
"That ball was 0.0000000000000000001 inches outside, ump! What the hell you trying to do to me????" Man alive. Stop standing there with the bat on your shoulders with two strikes. If it's relatively close you have to swing - hell man I learned that in Little League back in the 60s!!!! Players today, are they just looking for a reason to whine or maybe do they want to play ball? Because it sure looks like they're taking any excuse to whine about the strike zone instead of being offensive at the plate.
Ump was extremely biased for Nats in this game (0.92 run advantage per Umpire Scorecard, which is a lot more than it sounds). It’s easy to make a video just showing what clips you want to smh. Nats announcers were total clowns per usual too, acting like Hyde was complaining over nothing. Watch the game or go look at actual stats for the umpire.. this video is nonsense!
Yes, hitters hate REALLY good pitching.
If you watch the outside ball it’s off the plate by a lot. I don’t care what the graphic says. I’ve got eyeballs. And you say “within margin of error” but when it’s an important game, there’s no excuse.
Seriously, show an overhead view and we'll all be able to see it.
The grahic is the actual pitch that happened. Your eyeballs are looking at an inage on a screen distorted by a camera lens.
"I know the leaning tower of Pisa is only 4 feet tall, look at this picture of me as a kid holding it up"
@@pepperypeppers2755 The graphic is a possibly flawed computer image using sensors that may have been misaligned. It may or may not be correct.
I mean, your video just shows that this umpire has a huge strike zone. So yeah, I'd be upset if I was O'Hearn too. The ump's garbage. Honestly more than 50% of the umpires in the MLB are absolute trash, but the Umpire's Union makes sure none of them lose their jobs.
We need to start being able to eject umpires when they're absolute dogshit at their job for the night. Why do they get to stay in the game when they screw up, but the player (Or a fan in the stands) can say one word, and get tossed? I honestly can't wait until umpires are out of the game, who cares about the human element, when you have humans like this as umpires. They get paid 300k/year to suck at their jobs. If only all of us were so lucky.
Umpires won’t be out of the game entirely. Base calls still need to be made and those won’t be made in real time with a computer.
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You can’t argue balls and strikes it’s an automatic ejection
Not automatic, but close. There are absolutely bright line rules that players and managers love to break and then claim it was the umpire's fault for enforcing the rules. Number one: NO PERSONAL INSULTS. Automatic.
@@johns1039 no it’s an automatic ejection
@@minaeldiwany3215 NO, it is not. READ THE RULES. Leaving position. Prolonged. Profanity, (not enforced unless excessive), personal insults. Arguing after "stop" warning. Those are automatic. Just saying, "That was low," is NOT automatic ejection. MLB Directive about new "stop sign" warning makes it clear that it is NOT automatic. I think that it should be, as I think that you do also, but it is not automatic.
@@johns1039 no it’s an automatic ejection
@@minaeldiwany3215 No, it is not. You obviously do not know the rules, so stop responding. It is NOT automatic. Read the rules. Watch a game. Have you ever been to a game? Do not bother responding. You have met the criteria for prolonged arguing, so you are outa here. Go take a shower.
Big Os fan here... I get the consistency complaint, but those pitches are simply too close to take with 2 strikes. Swing the bat, foul 'em off, live to see another pitch!
dude got a fastball down the middle on 0 strikes in the 9th and still didn't swing after an entire game without a hit. what was he waiting for?
I worked games from the abhorrent LL system up through college softball and pretty much everything in between. I was even granted the privilege of working a Men's ASA National Championship Fastpitch tournament. My inside corner calls were that the ball had to cut the white and not the black. The outside corner could NEVER go further than two ball widths off the plate, but it could NEVER cut the chalk on the batter's box. The inside edge was uniformly consistent, but the outside corner was variable, depending on the age and level of competition of the teams.
I once called a 14u baseball game where one pitcher was just hammering both sides of the plate. I was my usual strict self on the inside edge and gave him about one ball width on the outside edge. I did the same for both teams. The winning pitcher won 2-0 and threw a perfect game. A week later I was assigned a game to the same league and this pitcher was on the bump again. He thought he would try to extend the outside edge and I denied him. He was removed in the third inning and his team lost the game. The only thing that hitters want from is to be as consistent as we can humanly be. Purists may not like us amateurs calling pitches off the plate, but at the younger levels it is necessary, to an extent, to get batters to get the damn bat off their shoulders.
Nice Hawk homage.
Removing the box from the iPads is a start, but some people just never learn.
And from the tv.
Maybe MLB needs to start suspending players for using the iPads to argue balls and strikes. MLB already released a memo last year telling teams to stop doing that.
@@vincentwendt720 MLB needs to take corrective action against umpires that called one sided games. Check the Umpire Audit calls the Nats we’re getting were not called strikes for the Orioles. Did the umpire make the difference in the game? No. Was his performance bad enough to warrant the confrontation? Absolutely
@@JoshSmith-pb8rw All of those pitches were close. O'Hearn swung twice during two at bats shown and looked at clear strikes. Batters should be protecting the plate. The pitcher was painting the corners, we should be giving him credit for that.
@@alanhess9306 Yes, the pitcher does deserve credit for painting the corners, which is why he should have gotten the high inside strike that the ump called a ball... despite him calling pitches further inside strikes both before and after that one.
Why are the Orioles wearing their city connect uniforms while on the road?
Hyde did NOT get his moneys' worth, thats dissappointing.....
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In the zone, not a tough zone, it was in the zone
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How can anyone complain about that strike zone. Almost perfect zone to that winer batter.
Well the zone was also not good the rest of the night as well
It starts with an F? Fantastic video as always.
Lol the Nats announcers are so lame. At the very end "good patience by Alex Tosi, letting Brandon Hyde have his moment" (after the ejection had already taken place). What patience? He threw him out right away? Do umpires usually pick coaches up and punt them into the dugout after an ejection? And the phrase "letting him have his moment" is pretty condescending and you almost never hear that from a broadcaster about an opposing team, even in that context.
Same announcer I think who last year after Davey Martinez was ejected in Seattle arguing a runners lane call at home plate - made a mocking "oh look at me, I can throw you out" voice which just feels so, so weird every time I listen to it. Like a kid mocking their parents when they're told to do something.
Catcher once again ruined a good pitch with bad framing. Can’t these dudes watch Yadi or Pudge or any catcher born before 1997 to see how it’s done.
I see a lot of correct calls here. The only incorrect call was to the benefit of the batter. I have no issue with this ejection and the other was within the margin of error.
what are you doing Wagner!? lol...
Inconsistent zone is trash. He should be yelled at and take it for being so bad
who gets all the money from egected players over the year does that go into the retirment pool ? if so mabe they are low this year and trying to help out
MLB donates the fines collected to charity. The fines should be much higher so that they are meaningful to the players. Fining people who make tens of millions of dollars per year $5000 is like fining me a penny. Maybe if there were real fines, the juvenile misbehavior would stop, (or at least slow down).
Thank you for the video
Thanks for posting!
HP ref: Look, Ryan, I ain't got time to listen to your opinions on my calls. Here, have this game misconduct as your punishment!
After Brandon Hyde came out to argue, Alex Tosi replied: "We've had enough. Here's your game misconduct".
This wasnt just an O'Hearn thing. It was all game. Check the scorecard for that game. I think it was near +1.00 for WSH
Your gone Brandon
I think that the over framing of pitches by MLB catchers isn't helping umpire either.
AAA umpire for vacation crew member.
Lindsay I get what you're saying for consistency. It's all most people ever want. But it was one pitch. It went in his favor. He had the inside pitch called earlier in the game. I say missing one pitch (and for ball one) in one at bat of his multiple at bats is pretty consistent. It's super crazy the standard these guys are being held to.
They're paid 300k/year, it's really not that crazy of a standard to ask someone to get the right call when they're paid that much. I guarantee you that over half of these umpires don't even have 20/20 vision. Can't call balls and strikes if you can't even see to begin with!
This is just what Lindsay covered. The game was much worse. Check the scorecard
Now do ejection pace for AAA that has the robo ump or challenge system
1:46 I have O'Hearn putting his hand on Tosi...so, that's a fine to along with the ejection. No biggie because it's been collectively bargained that whatever they have in the ashtrays of their Lamborghinis is the amount of the fine nowadays.
As for Hyde's ejection...still waiting for MLB to make it immediately ejection-able for a manager to come out on an umpire who has just ejected their player. Why does MLB sell us this drama? A better question might be...why do we "buy" this drama from MLB? Why are we as a society "entertained" by coaches and players arguing judgement even after they have been ejected? Why is this ok? These are the 76 best baseball umpires on...the...planet. They are not perfect but, just like players and coaches, they've worked hard to get there. They've worked hard to be one of 76. If it's a rule interpretation...fine, come out and discuss it like a civilized human being. Arguing judgement? Immediately ejection-able once its determined that's why you've left the dugout AND a mandatory suspension that escalates each time you're ejected.
What about when the umpires push players? That’s a bad statement.
@@DJTexan Sure...that happens too. I'm not talking about that because it doesn't happen in this video. I am simply discussing what happened in this video.
@baronvonnembles When and where did I say I wanted "all the players and coaches thrown out"? I didn't say that. I was addressing the issue of players and coaches being ejected...and then continuing to argue with the umpires. I was addressing the issue of players being ejected...and coaches coming out and continuing the argument with the umpire. It's hard hearing the truth, isn't it?
@@1969EType I know but umpires don’t get fined when they do it. Either allow both to do it like in past or suspend umpires and players.
I have to disagree with something .. I watched the Yankees When they had Reggie and Gregg Nettles .My Dad was at the Game where Reggie hit 3 hrs .Now we have this computer telling us that those pitches are a strike when really there outside and a ball .Just because a tiny piece of the ball a tiny tiny piece almost hits the box does not mean its a strike ..Look At Judge all the low strikes called and are balls .. That computer is wrong we have to go back when umps had talent and not these power freaks .There ruining baseball and i hope i live to see them replaced ...Sorry for the rant but after watching these strike calls i had to say something ... Stay well ..
"That computer is wrong"............ummmm, ok
That last pitch was so far off. And we haven’t even mentioned the terrible framing.
Thank you for mentioning the framing. Stop putting obvious corner pitches in the middle of your chest when you catch them. It reminds me of the old video games where the catcher's mitt floated without an arm and tracked the pitch the entire way in.
He's insufferable
Could not possibly be a case of a MLB pitcher making great pitches.
MLB is encouraging it... what do we expect... The same thing with different results? Definition of insanity (or politics.. oh wait.. same thing)... Sad thing is... these were really close to actual strikes.. MLB won't, but they need to start supplimental punishments for arguing Balls/Strkes.. it's in the rule book as verboten and it's clear ejection is not enough.. maybe it's time they need to lose another game or more (for repeat offenders)... but, again MLB wants this.
MLB does NOT want it. They have changed rules and issued written directives to umpires and to teams and players. It is the players and managers who still want to be able to act out, thinking that screaming expletives at umpires will change anything, because they are entitled prima donnas.
In the NCAA any participant except for a head coach gets a one-game suspension for an unsportsmanlike conduct ejection (which includes arguing with an umpire). For a subsequent violation, the offender gets a three game suspension (except for a head coach). In addition, if any participant is ejected from the game and prolongs an argument or uses abusive language would be subject to a two game suspension in addition to any other applicable suspensions.
@@vincentwendt720 Thanks for confirming that NCAA is soft.
Or they can just get the challenge system like Triple A stadiums.
They need to have real punishments. Under the MLBPA and Managers' Agreements, they all still get paid their full salaries while they are suspended, even when they are guilty. They still get paid their full salary, even when their suspensions are upheld. They do not lose a single dollar. It costs them NOTHING to be found guilty if they violate the rules. What other job costs you nothing when you get suspended? This is a MAJOR part of the problem. Not only are they primadonnas, they are encouraged and paid to be!
Sob the umpires have gotten worse and worse……that’s more than a “tough zone”
They’ve actually gotten better and better. 20-30 years ago those pitches would have been considered “down the middle” for a standard MLB umpire strike zone.
@@josephgravina9834 nope….not at all, unless you count Eric Gregg, then maybe…..the reason you think that was the position of the outfield camera back then. The hitters reactions will tell you everything, they know when it’s a strike…..doesn’t mean they won’t complain.
@@kerrytodd3753 hitters back then expected batters box to batters box to be called a strike, they didn’t react because they all called it and because there was no computer to prove otherwise. When Questtech was first introduced in the early 2000s it was only in select ball parks and pitchers complained about it because the umpires wouldn’t call strikes 6” off the plate on those fields only.
@@josephgravina9834 that’s not true…..my dad played pro ball and continued coaching for 45 years…..never once heard him say that, and believe me if a pitch was off the plate he would let the ump know it. Those guys woulda beat an umpire if he woulda called a pitch in the batters box a strike. Weren’t many pushovers back then. Guy coming back from war after being drafted and serving his country for the prime playing years weren’t amused by bad officiating. The umpire and every man on that field was an obstacle in his way of reaching the majors……you had to be tough mentally and physically. But I never ever heard him say that the strike zone was interpreted that way….i think he would say that a high pitch was a strike (probably because it was in his days) occasionally but he adjusted to the lower strike zone and didn’t bitch about it too much later in life.
The only (red) incorrect call actually benefits the batter
I would have been tossed too. I mean, You can't give him the inside corner and the outside corner....
It’s a box. He gets anywhere touching that box. If it’s up on the box or bottom of the box the box is the box. It just doesn’t magically change side. Even robo ump would have called it
I’d agree more if you mean a few inches off the corner. But these pitches aren’t off the corner, they are on it.
Those pitches were off the plate…..one was high, I don’t care about the arbitrary lines drawn on the screen. The hitters and the pitchers/catchers know.
@@kerrytodd3753 uh huh 🤔
@@rickysampson8759he was not calling it the same both ways he was giving the Nats both corners when pitching and O's had nothing