When are the powers that be going to finally get the answers for the Nguni parents who's children got murdered by the anc at Quatro camp in Angola Mbeki ..Palo Jordan ..care to shed some light on the subject seeing as you were the big wigs there
Frans, I think one aspect that many analyst miss is the power of the Black middle class. The black middle class has a lot of power and contol in their extended families due to "Black tax" we pay to our families back home. When we start to feel the real squeeze of this disastrous ideologies and policies we are more luckily to lobby our families to ditch the ANC for an alternative. I see people like Herman Mashaba and Musi Maimane filing some of the void for moderates. Most black middle class understand the pains of poverty as we grew up in it and I dont think many of us will allow the ANC to Kamakazee with us on board.
I think i would give my left ball to see black people vote for Mashaba and Maimane problem is most of the country is uneducated and angry that normally means a populist partylike the EFF gains traction. If i was Cyril i would find a convenient accident for Juju...history tells us what happens to countries with leaders like that.
I think the most responsible and honest person to lead SA, after listening to his interview this week, is Bantu Holomisa of the UDM. I'm going to study their policy now.
Dis waar ons gaan verseker n ander plan moet maak veral die middle klas want die sisteme wat nou loop is om die middel klas te elimineer.. net arm mense en ryk mense gaan oorbly.. Julle moet vergeet van die doen en late van die huidige regering hulle tyd is verby.. oorlog is al wat vir hulle oorbly dit kan tot 15 jaar vat om te verbrokkel. maar ons wat weet hoe om vorentoe te gaan sal na gekyk word. Die nuwe plan bestaan al reeds.. Groete Ronel
Which God are you thanking?.........there have been more than 3000 gods so far. Ps if he's the future, then his past record is v bad....... not very encouraging to say the least.
The African feudal system does not take ownership for building or maintaining, therefore your last scenario will only be for a small percentage of the country where there is a will to build and maintain. The rest will fall into poverty and thus anarchy and will it will become all out conflict between the have's and the have nots.
About what it looked like 500 years ago, but with millions of skeltons, rusted and smoldering everything and a SABC talking suit saying, "It's all the legacy of Apartheid."
Sir, you nailed it. I made a similar long term analysis before 2018 elections on youtube comments, and people thought I was Ludacris and were convinced EFF would win. They were wrong and my comment stands vindicated. You are the ONLY person who has confirmed my similar analysis. Here is my updated assessment now in 08-2021: Whites need to step up and be seen to be tangibly helping Ramapoza to fix the country socially and financially even on land. This will somewhat please the crowds and boost Ramapoza. If Whites dont do that and contine resisting like they do now, theres 3 posibilities: 1) A government of power sharing. Not easy. 2) DA may win elections but fall into a stalemate with too much political opposition fights and squabbles and mistrust that even the success they achieve is just flushed down the toilet without the masses acknowledging it. Or 3)EFF wins and a Hitler kind of situation happens. I mean a real dictatorship. Remember when Hitler got into power, the masses were already angry and only needed a loud angry man to fire them up to do evil. Hitler didnt have to try too hard. The firewood was already chopped up and nicely dry like the South African masses today. All Malema has to do is light the match and go right into a blaze of disaster. Those are the 3 scenario. A new party formed between now and the next election will never win the election of 2023. Same way a student who gets an E or D at the midterm exam will never get to an A+ at the final exam. It will take an absolute miracle.
No mention of the army? In Zim the army basically operates as an independent state actor. Army leadership has to be accounted for in any assessment of the countries future - whoever the army chooses to side with is likely to remain in power.
DA works well for whom? The Western Cape is rife with poverty, lack of meaningful jobs, gangerism, crime at the highest levels ever, racism and cravasses of disparity
The da is no better cape town is one of the most dangerous city in the world there is still more poverty that side da only serves white people not colourds,Indians or black people
@@badge5575 OK, firstly why do so many blacks move to the Western Cape from ANC controlled provinces ? Secondly why do these people who have contributed nothing to the Western Cape expect to be provided houses, water, electricity, schooling and other services for free from the DA ? Sorry there is not enough money for that kind of hand out. Thirdly, why is Cape Town so dangerous ? Maybe you should ask Mr Cele, he controls the police, not the DA. And let's be honest, why are the Cape Flats so under policed ? So yes the DA does very well for all the citizens of the Western Cape. Maybe some of these citizens should get off their arses and do something for themselves to improve their living environment. Those who have are very happy with the DA.
Well organised taxi industry that does not pay tax. All that shows is that connected politicians and politicians have big financial holdings in the taxi industry. +- R20000 per taxi route x 350000 taxis makes it a organised mafia.
always thought that a viable alternative might be a split in the ANC - creating a Progressive ANC and a Nationalist ANC - absorb the DA into the Progressive ANC, dissolve the DA brand - retain the "conservative" and leadership elements of existing ANC; the Nationalist ANC merges with the EFF - and then fight that battle out at the polls.
It doesn't because it is a construction outcome of the unintended consequence and the end results of the intended objective for the overall win by any competing political parties. It doesn't have the strength of political philosophy, manifesto and a clear vision as it only depends on the implementation arrangement of negotiations between parties involved.
Where are we going.. If you have money then you are going out of South Africa.. If you are poor like me then you are going nowhere :( I disagree that there is any chance the ANC will go below 50%.. This is just wishful thinking. Elections are pointless in South Africa.. It really does not matter if we postpone the election.. We might as well postpone elections and save lives.
By 2029 Herman Mashaba's Actionsa party will be stronger. The ANC will have a coalition partner, and by 2033, the ANC would be history and Action SA will take over. That's me being optimistic.
@@Irishtradchannel you mean the power that you hold will be finished that's why you so afraid of their policies. Land being an important part of it. I know the value of land and more blacks are waking up to the truth that power is in the land.
Its called feudalism. Those who gain power over their "honeycomb" will have the monopoly on violence, and they will use it to enrich themselves in exchange for protection.
It's a sad state of affairs, almost thirty years of disasterous leadership, no end to the corruption and arrogant gang of thugs running the country into the rubbish dump. Vat jou goed n trek!
Mandela was a king of baThembu, but chose to be a servant of the nation. Gave up his precious life for the freedom of his country and its people. He chose to forgive, for the love of his people and become a king of peace. The new nation was born out of him 🌈. He taught people to love one another and respect one another. And he united with the whole world. The 1st election of SA witnessed the togetherness. His passing also witnessed his character, a KING OF PEACE something that was never seen in Africa or in the world. He was not power hungry at least him and Mbeki. They were very serious about their duty as presidents. No one will ever be a match to these two leaders. If only Mbeki had faithful and loyal parliamentarians like eg deputy president Mrs P Ngcuka until he finished his term and the job he started, would have made a big difference. As the gentleman he is, left the office as his persecutors demanded. He said " SOUTH AFRICA YOU'LL REMEMBER ME." I said to myself, I am remembering you as we speak because DARK CLOUD HAS LUCK. Well so Zimbabwe you have us to celebrate, and Somalia, Eretrea can welcome SA. Now Nigeria can say, we are even and we will squash them. 🙋♀️🌈GOOD BYE BEAUTIFUL FACE OF AFRICA, GREENER PASTURES ARE NO MORE FOR AFRICANS . 😭 CRY RAINBOW NATION, CRY BELOVED SAns. We crying hard for our families, children and friends. PRAY TO❤️ GOD HOLY SPIRIT THAT HE HAVE MERCY ON US CHILDREN OF THIS COUNTRY IN JESUS NAME AMEN 🙏
After all this time ok... I see this happening all over South Africa . Independent block Towns . Suburbs and singular communities . All the above built very high walls 20 meter high 2 meter wide.. access through huge secure double rowwed with another double row gates . Place are all over rated fort Knox style. Outside those ares are roads .. no paving points or walk ways. Outside all that areas of blocked areas . The bush even there not safe or accessible. Even farmlands are blocked of lands .. inaccessible 😅😅... crazy huh. Last thing Farmers are in perrile being alone at the moment. Federated farmers union should be created too protect them . This is something that needs a strong foundation in every town elke drop. Police has the power not the local govt. Army had the power not local govt. Then the local business home owners etc. people who holds power in every town should call together and start giving way to what's best in there town . Build blocked of areas for access to there towns suburbs schools and farms and roads. Infrastructure belongs to the people . Responsible people in towns should regulate the region . Control '
True Andrew... The whole world is in chaos. there is nowhere to run. in the U.S many people are homeless because of job losses, the whole world is a mess.
@@Khuli_Dlams Fortunately you are very mistaken. There are many countries (Canada, Germany, Australia, Switzerland, France, Spain, New Zealand, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Japan, Singapore and numerous others) that are safe, thriving and great to live in. I have lived in several of them and I can tell you that they are 1000% better than South Africa where I once lived for 39 years. If you haven’t lived in other countries you have no benchmark to compare and thus you rely on hearsay from others (gossip) which is fundamentally flawed reasoning. My advice is to emigrate, you will never regret it, by staying in SA you are doomed to a miserable, conflict-filled, tragic future (especially for your grandchildren). You will forever be filled with remorse if one of your descendants is tragically caught up in the inevitable violence that awaits SA. I wish you all the best and hope you see reason. Keep safe.
I am heartened by hearing about federation being mentioned as a likely option for a post ANC South Africa. I would like to suggest that confederation be considered - similar to that of the Swiss - or even full independence as with the endeavors of the Cape or even Boer or Afrikaner republics. It is about high time though, that what happened in 94 must be acknowledged as a total disaster.. Not doing this means there will be another opportunity where the same mistake is made; one man one vote in a unitary state has now proven to be a shambles, so other options must now be considered.
It will look like Zimbabwe naturally. I’m surprised it’s still called South Africa. Rodesia was a good place until it changed to Zimbabwe isn’t it? There will be nothing left in SA in 5 years never mind 20. Now maybe people will start understanding why apartheid was necessary. Some of the apartheid policies were too much but still it was necessary to keep the country in peace . During apartheid years the streets were clean the shops were clean and the streets were safe. Even in townships the people were safe. Look now the borders are open , foreigners have the jobs. The ANC got the country given to them in good condition. Served on a platter. Pity there will be nothing left. So sad. (Apartheid didn’t require black people to go to military/army yet for the white boys it was compulsory after school. Two year service . For what? . In USA the segregation made black peoples do the military it was compulsory for them but not in SA.) SA is now like every other African country.
How about leave Africa to Africans and their way of life, unfortunately it's made difficult because the good land which was used for community herding and farming was colonised
@@kwalelalipimile9245 the good land was actually bought by the Europeans from the koisan people. The koisan people only used the good land to hunt game. The good land was not used for farming at that stage back in 1600’s because your people know nothing about farming. Your people killed all the koisan people and now are claiming it was your land to begin with meanwhile your people are from the north not from South Africa.
The future looks bleak... therefore this recent rioting and looting... should be a wake up call for the Indians to look abroad and move to a country more Indian friendly and that they willing to accept our investments and boosting to their economy... Middle East looking for intelligent people in different sectors of industrialization... Indians should leave this country because for a while now this country wasn't favourable for Indians... let the White's and Black's stay and sort the countries issues...we always targeted forr no reason...this political system is not democratic anymore...one can sense it's tainted...
9:20 "honey comb" shadow states already exist. They are called body corporates. 1. Your predictions seems exclusively pessimistic. There other factors at work in society, besides the state, and they have some influence on what happens within the state. Are there no positive signs? 2. Your analysis overlooks the role of business interests that fund (and thereby shape) political parties. You make it sound like the only recourse is voting. Tx for the content.
Mexico is a much superior country please don't disrespect Mexico like that. It's like when you guys say we will be China....lol we could only wish to be with the quality of our people and government
the ad at the end..... is so much how south africans on the ground have worked to help...... not the government...... not the banks....30 years in charity...... if I had to work out a racial vs income earning based donation ratio, Ubuntu would show up badly. but.. .. south africans have matched onwards regardless. and now..... we may blame anywhere except on the governments and banks..... wow.. just wow . humans have lost their souls
Land for the African? Or land for SOME Africans? The leading class - the politicians and generals - who have no idea how to use the land. The average person in the average shantytown will still live in the shanty town.
I was looking forward to an objective intellectual debate. Very disappointing opinion by people calling themselves "Centre for Risk Analysis". Laughable. Even the comments here... emotional sensationalization that is absolutely devoid of logic. Daydreaming basically 🤦🏽♂️
The world won't last more than 7 years from now. Jesus will return. So don't bother.. Get Ready. God's Mark is Saturday Worship. Satan's mark Sunday Worship. That's the whole story. You decide who to Worship. Sunday Worship is the mark of the beast.
WATCH the full interview with Frans Cronje (53 mins) on the 'Solutions With David Ansara' podcast: ua-cam.com/video/Ona0WG7UDpU/v-deo.html
Never thought I'd ever think of the Mbeki years as the good old days of fiscal responsibility!
Ditto
They say Mbeki introduced Zuma to Guptas
Hahahaha true man
He is part of the new world order wake up!
When are the powers that be going to finally get the answers for the Nguni parents who's children got murdered by the anc at Quatro camp in Angola
Mbeki ..Palo Jordan ..care to shed some light on the subject seeing as you were the big wigs there
Frans, I think one aspect that many analyst miss is the power of the Black middle class. The black middle class has a lot of power and contol in their extended families due to "Black tax" we pay to our families back home. When we start to feel the real squeeze of this disastrous ideologies and policies we are more luckily to lobby our families to ditch the ANC for an alternative. I see people like Herman Mashaba and Musi Maimane filing some of the void for moderates. Most black middle class understand the pains of poverty as we grew up in it and I dont think many of us will allow the ANC to Kamakazee with us on board.
Sadly , in KZN the middle class in luxury vehicles joined the poor in looting.
I think i would give my left ball to see black people vote for Mashaba and Maimane problem is most of the country is uneducated and angry that normally means a populist partylike the EFF gains traction. If i was Cyril i would find a convenient accident for Juju...history tells us what happens to countries with leaders like that.
Also how the hell doesnt a guy like Holomisa get more play, he is the real deal too.
@@jksinorbit I agree, General Holomisa does need a lot of airplay. He has very practical and honest views.
I think the most responsible and honest person to lead SA, after listening to his interview this week, is Bantu Holomisa of the UDM. I'm going to study their policy now.
It’s scary that ministers don’t sing the same song. Shows that the ANC have zero interest in governing. Simply there for self enrichment.
Very interesting.
FYI The Koi San King is already ruling over the gardens at the Union Building.
Very funny..
Frans Cronje : "My work here is done. Oh, and btw, if you're a member of the minority in SA, you'd better have a plan b. LOL."
Thanks, Frans.
Dis waar ons gaan verseker n ander plan moet maak veral die middle klas want die sisteme wat nou loop is om die middel klas te elimineer.. net arm mense en ryk mense gaan oorbly..
Julle moet vergeet van die doen en late van die huidige regering hulle tyd is verby.. oorlog is al wat vir hulle oorbly dit kan tot 15 jaar vat om te verbrokkel. maar ons wat weet hoe om vorentoe te gaan sal na gekyk word. Die nuwe plan bestaan al reeds..
Groete Ronel
Groot kak
Have met many white SA here in the UK in recent years that have got out because they foresaw all this coming.
@@garethbuckeridge6910 we all foresaw this coming but not all of us can leave unfortunately
@@fielaseanderkind7119 It is very sad.
Thank U Lord that U are South Africa’s future. No weapon formed against us shall prosper ❤️🇿🇦
Yeah we're our own weapon 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@katlegomohlala5545 the government is the weapon...not the people
Which God are you thanking?.........there have been more than 3000 gods so far.
Ps if he's the future, then his past record is v bad....... not very encouraging to say the least.
@@nevillehoare1425 Good question.
Our FATHER doesn’t like to be called god. Jesus never called Him god. He called Him “our FATHER”.
You already formed weapons against yourself. Ure going down.
The African feudal system does not take ownership for building or maintaining, therefore your last scenario will only be for a small percentage of the country where there is a will to build and maintain. The rest will fall into poverty and thus anarchy and will it will become all out conflict between the have's and the have nots.
Sadly, true...
How does the Arican feudal system work?
People from Zim fled to SA, which is now on the same road as Zim. Where to from here?
Was wondering the same including for us who cant afford to immigrate
@@Brentford704 small place in northern cape or west coast is my plan.
Robbin island
Nah Mauritius 🇲🇺
back to Zimbabwe start building and stop running
So much good content in this talk.
When employees of Government find out their pension has been spend by the ANC...
About what it looked like 500 years ago, but with millions of skeltons, rusted and smoldering everything and a SABC talking suit saying, "It's all the legacy of Apartheid."
I love this guy’s analysis, so Frank with a touch of sarcasm 😂.
I have worked all over West and East Africa, the Separation of Govt and People is very obvious
South Africa will be known as Looters Paradise. But South Africa is already a basket case. ANC =Africas New Calamity.
May all means Cronje Anasara
Medhaba Musi have a deep
Insight wisdom understanding
progress and stay blessed to
raise SA frm the piit❤
And the eff think the farmers will cooperate....!? Total chaos.
Sir, you nailed it. I made a similar long term analysis before 2018 elections on youtube comments, and people thought I was Ludacris and were convinced EFF would win. They were wrong and my comment stands vindicated. You are the ONLY person who has confirmed my similar analysis. Here is my updated assessment now in 08-2021: Whites need to step up and be seen to be tangibly helping Ramapoza to fix the country socially and financially even on land. This will somewhat please the crowds and boost Ramapoza. If Whites dont do that and contine resisting like they do now, theres 3 posibilities: 1) A government of power sharing. Not easy. 2) DA may win elections but fall into a stalemate with too much political opposition fights and squabbles and mistrust that even the success they achieve is just flushed down the toilet without the masses acknowledging it. Or 3)EFF wins and a Hitler kind of situation happens. I mean a real dictatorship. Remember when Hitler got into power, the masses were already angry and only needed a loud angry man to fire them up to do evil. Hitler didnt have to try too hard. The firewood was already chopped up and nicely dry like the South African masses today. All Malema has to do is light the match and go right into a blaze of disaster. Those are the 3 scenario. A new party formed between now and the next election will never win the election of 2023. Same way a student who gets an E or D at the midterm exam will never get to an A+ at the final exam. It will take an absolute miracle.
No mention of the army? In Zim the army basically operates as an independent state actor. Army leadership has to be accounted for in any assessment of the countries future - whoever the army chooses to side with is likely to remain in power.
Wow, ask the folks in Nigeria and Cabo Delgado who will take over once a power vacume emerges....
How would this be played out in the Western Cape, where in most cases the DA government works very well.
DA works well for whom? The Western Cape is rife with poverty, lack of meaningful jobs, gangerism, crime at the highest levels ever, racism and cravasses of disparity
@@beautifulcrazy True, but then the rest of the country is far, far worse. Don't be stupid.
The da is no better cape town is one of the most dangerous city in the world there is still more poverty that side da only serves white people not colourds,Indians or black people
@@badge5575 OK, firstly why do so many blacks move to the Western Cape from ANC controlled provinces ? Secondly why do these people who have contributed nothing to the Western Cape expect to be provided houses, water, electricity, schooling and other services for free from the DA ? Sorry there is not enough money for that kind of hand out. Thirdly, why is Cape Town so dangerous ? Maybe you should ask Mr Cele, he controls the police, not the DA. And let's be honest, why are the Cape Flats so under policed ? So yes the DA does very well for all the citizens of the Western Cape. Maybe some of these citizens should get off their arses and do something for themselves to improve their living environment. Those who have are very happy with the DA.
Mr Cronje, please stop worrying about SA in 10 year's time. Take care of the present situation. Regards, Alinda Nieuwoudt. Proudly South African.
Brilliant analysis
Well organised taxi industry that does not pay tax. All that shows is that connected politicians and politicians have big financial holdings in the taxi industry. +- R20000 per taxi route x 350000 taxis makes it a organised mafia.
How does Frans see the major and valuable resources of the country being managed in an enclave outcome?
"Managed"?
It will be sold to the Chinese for massive personal profits.
And how will this enclave gather taxes to pay for the infrastructure and other upkeep?
My plan B is to change my surname on my birth certificate to khumalo, start using the word 'Comrade' alot more and i know ill be fine
FF+..is the way to go
The problem with the “ enclave future “ is that enclaves are local. Who in South African will control water, power, rail transport, airports, etc. ?
I don't care, I have given a lot to and for this country...so I can walk away with my head held high.
always thought that a viable alternative might be a split in the ANC - creating a Progressive ANC and a Nationalist ANC - absorb the DA into the Progressive ANC, dissolve the DA brand - retain the "conservative" and leadership elements of existing ANC; the Nationalist ANC merges with the EFF - and then fight that battle out at the polls.
good thinking!
I cannot think of an example in history where a country fell apart like frans predicts. Borders usually only change after a war.
And they're happy to have people Q for what suits them - like the V.
Postponing elections will not help the ANC. They're still tanking.
No they won't tank. They'll just become more despotic.
@@truth-Hurts375 I admit I don't understand. Everybody just talks at me. No one explains .
Coalition government makes a lot of sense as long as egos do not get in the way
It doesn't because it is a construction outcome of the unintended consequence and the end results of the intended objective for the overall win by any competing political parties. It doesn't have the strength of political philosophy, manifesto and a clear vision as it only depends on the implementation arrangement of negotiations between parties involved.
It will be a complete ****hole. Zimbabwe 2.0
Where are we going.. If you have money then you are going out of South Africa.. If you are poor like me then you are going nowhere :(
I disagree that there is any chance the ANC will go below 50%.. This is just wishful thinking. Elections are pointless in South Africa.. It really does not matter if we postpone the election.. We might as well postpone elections and save lives.
You can stand in line in Supermarkets at SASSA lines
But not in line to vote
This is the Nguni intellect
They dom hey shame
It could well look empty (at least of whites and Indians).
Apparently my definition of a party is quite different from everyone else!
It sounds primed for another predatory country (any ideas?) to step in to support the ANC, or to bypass them completely
By 2029 Herman Mashaba's Actionsa party will be stronger. The ANC will have a coalition partner, and by 2033, the ANC would be history and Action SA will take over.
That's me being optimistic.
I strongly hope so.
@@truth-Hurts375 prophecy never lie
A combination of Zimbabwe during famine and Somalia.
The only thing to change in SA is the black man getting his Land back
The blacks in Zimbabwe ( Rhodesia) took all the land back from the White's. How did that work out.
Ivan.
South Africa is finished as a strong economy.
If the EFF come to power it'll be finished as a functioning State.
@@Irishtradchannel you mean the power that you hold will be finished that's why you so afraid of their policies. Land being an important part of it. I know the value of land and more blacks are waking up to the truth that power is in the land.
I think the San..would disagree with you on that one…!
Yes..... it will change things .... from bad to worse.
I like the concept of a "honeycomb" solution to South Africa.
Its called feudalism. Those who gain power over their "honeycomb" will have the monopoly on violence, and they will use it to enrich themselves in exchange for protection.
Ahem..."Hard times create Strong Men, Strongmen create Goodtimes. Goodtimes create Weak Men. And Weakmen create Hardtimes"... Adolf Hitler...
It's a sad state of affairs, almost thirty years of disasterous leadership, no end to the corruption and arrogant gang of thugs running the country into the rubbish dump. Vat jou goed n trek!
SA its all we know. Wat kan ons vat when wr broke n go whr
No hope for SA. So much for the god mandela???.
What is wrong with Mandela? Just curious. I'm from India. We also have "god" Gandhi. But lot of us hate him who knows the truth.
Mandela was a king of baThembu, but chose to be a servant of the nation. Gave up his precious life for the freedom of his country and its people. He chose to forgive, for the love of his people and become a king of peace. The new nation was born out of him 🌈. He taught people to love one another and respect one another. And he united with the whole world. The 1st election of SA witnessed the togetherness. His passing also witnessed his character, a KING OF PEACE something that was never seen in Africa or in the world. He was not power hungry at least him and Mbeki. They were very serious about their duty as presidents. No one will ever be a match to these two leaders. If only Mbeki had faithful and loyal parliamentarians like eg deputy president Mrs P Ngcuka until he finished his term and the job he started, would have made a big difference. As the gentleman he is, left the office as his persecutors demanded. He said
" SOUTH AFRICA YOU'LL REMEMBER ME." I said to myself, I am remembering you as we speak because DARK CLOUD HAS LUCK. Well so Zimbabwe you have us to celebrate, and Somalia, Eretrea can welcome SA. Now Nigeria can say, we are even and we will squash them. 🙋♀️🌈GOOD BYE BEAUTIFUL FACE OF AFRICA, GREENER PASTURES ARE NO MORE FOR AFRICANS . 😭 CRY RAINBOW NATION, CRY BELOVED SAns. We crying hard for our families, children and friends. PRAY TO❤️ GOD HOLY SPIRIT THAT HE HAVE MERCY ON US CHILDREN OF THIS COUNTRY IN JESUS NAME AMEN 🙏
@@rainbowtrust6347 you chose only to mention the good things?
The danger of an eff gov
After all this time ok... I see this happening all over South Africa . Independent block Towns . Suburbs and singular communities .
All the above built very high walls 20 meter high 2 meter wide.. access through huge secure double rowwed with another double row gates . Place are all over rated fort Knox style. Outside those ares are roads .. no paving points or walk ways. Outside all that areas of blocked areas . The bush even there not safe or accessible. Even farmlands are blocked of lands .. inaccessible 😅😅... crazy huh.
Last thing Farmers are in perrile being alone at the moment. Federated farmers union should be created too protect them . This is something that needs a strong foundation in every town elke drop. Police has the power not the local govt. Army had the power not local govt. Then the local business home owners etc. people who holds power in every town should call together and start giving way to what's best in there town . Build blocked of areas for access to there towns suburbs schools and farms and roads. Infrastructure belongs to the people . Responsible people in towns should regulate the region . Control '
Detroit
Into ruins: if we do not do anything about it now
What is the CRA's opinion of Herman Mashaba's Action SA ? We.realise its new and small but the governing model is different
Self-sovereign governance is a right of alll mankind. SA GOV is a corporation listed on Wall street since 2012, so alien in any case
Outside the fence, nothing was done!
If you think elections 2024 you Dreaming!!
It will look like Zimbabwe or Uganda under Edi Amin with big screen TV's. But with more and higher tech excuses.
Straight to Zim
How far have we backslided
If push comes to shove l think the enclave solution is a wonderful idea!
Bare barren destroyed country
Ruling over the ashes.
SA is like any place in the world... things will get worse. Its a matter or relativity
True Andrew... The whole world is in chaos. there is nowhere to run. in the U.S many people are homeless because of job losses, the whole world is a mess.
@@Khuli_Dlams Fortunately you are very mistaken. There are many countries (Canada, Germany, Australia, Switzerland, France, Spain, New Zealand, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Japan, Singapore and numerous others) that are safe, thriving and great to live in. I have lived in several of them and I can tell you that they are 1000% better than South Africa where I once lived for 39 years. If you haven’t lived in other countries you have no benchmark to compare and thus you rely on hearsay from others (gossip) which is fundamentally flawed reasoning. My advice is to emigrate, you will never regret it, by staying in SA you are doomed to a miserable, conflict-filled, tragic future (especially for your grandchildren). You will forever be filled with remorse if one of your descendants is tragically caught up in the inevitable violence that awaits SA. I wish you all the best and hope you see reason. Keep safe.
@@gazzaolva1677 nah Australia and Canada are becoming authotarian
B A D G E 55
Rubbish!
@@gazzaolva1677 I disagree. Horrible to live in Australia. That is… if you value your freedom.
It'll probably stay the same shape?🤔
I am heartened by hearing about federation being mentioned as a likely option for a post ANC South Africa. I would like to suggest that confederation be considered - similar to that of the Swiss - or even full independence as with the endeavors of the Cape or even Boer or Afrikaner republics. It is about high time though, that what happened in 94 must be acknowledged as a total disaster.. Not doing this means there will be another opportunity where the same mistake is made; one man one vote in a unitary state has now proven to be a shambles, so other options must now be considered.
The ANC is a snake pit. Cyril is a frog that has been dumped in the middle!
So, in a word, Feudalism.
We are reverse engineering South Africa.
Your thinking is limited to what you know.
DA ANC nowdays
It will look like Zimbabwe naturally. I’m surprised it’s still called South Africa. Rodesia was a good place until it changed to Zimbabwe isn’t it? There will be nothing left in SA in 5 years never mind 20. Now maybe people will start understanding why apartheid was necessary. Some of the apartheid policies were too much but still it was necessary to keep the country in peace . During apartheid years the streets were clean the shops were clean and the streets were safe. Even in townships the people were safe. Look now the borders are open , foreigners have the jobs. The ANC got the country given to them in good condition. Served on a platter. Pity there will be nothing left. So sad. (Apartheid didn’t require black people to go to military/army yet for the white boys it was compulsory after school. Two year service . For what? . In USA the segregation made black peoples do the military it was compulsory for them but not in SA.) SA is now like every other African country.
DA all the way for me
Give them more land, instead of working it they will build more shacks and say its apartheid. What a joke this country is making us to be.
@@selg3032 eish one can't teach stupid .I'm hoping the Nguni visit u first
How about leave Africa to Africans and their way of life, unfortunately it's made difficult because the good land which was used for community herding and farming was colonised
@@kwalelalipimile9245 the good land was actually bought by the Europeans from the koisan people. The koisan people only used the good land to hunt game. The good land was not used for farming at that stage back in 1600’s because your people know nothing about farming. Your people killed all the koisan people and now are claiming it was your land to begin with meanwhile your people are from the north not from South Africa.
I hope not
Blabla... just share the little you have 🙌
I hate that plastic 90s mouse noise
What will SA in 10yrs. The same scenario when uncle Jan landed on the coast. Nothing.
The future looks bleak... therefore this recent rioting and looting... should be a wake up call for the Indians to look abroad and move to a country more Indian friendly and that they willing to accept our investments and boosting to their economy... Middle East looking for intelligent people in different sectors of industrialization... Indians should leave this country because for a while now this country wasn't favourable for Indians... let the White's and Black's stay and sort the countries issues...we always targeted forr no reason...this political system is not democratic anymore...one can sense it's tainted...
SA Zimbabwe no 2
No hope anymore... sorry guys
9:20 "honey comb" shadow states already exist. They are called body corporates.
1. Your predictions seems exclusively pessimistic. There other factors at work in society, besides the state, and they have some influence on what happens within the state. Are there no positive signs?
2. Your analysis overlooks the role of business interests that fund (and thereby shape) political parties. You make it sound like the only recourse is voting.
Tx for the content.
A N C South Africas cANCer
Mexico
Mexico is a much superior country please don't disrespect Mexico like that. It's like when you guys say we will be China....lol we could only wish to be with the quality of our people and government
I fully support a federal system, own government, own security, law enforcement and infrastructure.
@@gertvanwyk8989 lol 😂 and you think the NWO government would let that happen?
the ad at the end..... is so much how south africans on the ground have worked to help...... not the government...... not the banks....30 years in charity...... if I had to work out a racial vs income earning based donation ratio, Ubuntu would show up badly. but..
.. south africans have matched onwards regardless. and now..... we may blame anywhere except on the governments and banks..... wow.. just wow
. humans have lost their souls
HELL NEST L O L
It will still be Sunny so Shurrup lol
Ban colonialism
Worse...
DA = Doesn't Arrive
@@ajodendaal No, there isn't one.
The EFF has won already!land ahead for the african!,land ahead!
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Land for the African? Or land for SOME Africans? The leading class - the politicians and generals - who have no idea how to use the land. The average person in the average shantytown will still live in the shanty town.
@@banzakidimye348 i said land for the african!what the african does with their land is non of your Business!its not your land,care about your own!
@@fielaseanderkind7119 👌🏾
Julius just wants to be a billionaire like others
I was looking forward to an objective intellectual debate. Very disappointing opinion by people calling themselves "Centre for Risk Analysis". Laughable. Even the comments here... emotional sensationalization that is absolutely devoid of logic. Daydreaming basically 🤦🏽♂️
Blah blah blah ... why don't you be the puppet and 10:53 see you can do nothing about it all.
Without Zuma I see no bright future. We love msholozi💞
The world won't last more than 7 years from now. Jesus will return. So don't bother.. Get Ready. God's Mark is Saturday Worship. Satan's mark Sunday Worship. That's the whole story. You decide who to Worship. Sunday Worship is the mark of the beast.
Time for your medication.
@Neville Hoare 😂
Dum dums
Should state authority completely erode, I see gangsterism, or potentially terrorist/rebel groups forming, to step into the gap.