12 bit vs 8 bit Oscillscopes Pico vs Siglent - Micsig - GW Instek
Вставка
- Опубліковано 1 лип 2021
- This video '12 bit vs 8 bit Pico vs Siglent - Micsig - GW Instek Oscilloscopes' will show what 8 bit vs 12 bit vertical resolution will do for you. I'll use a 1Vrms signal with a smaller 10mV signal riding on top. Also, it will show how much easier the software for the Pico Oscilloscope makes it to zoom into and examine a waveform.
Link to PicoScope: amzn.to/35pZuU8
GW Instek Oscilloscope: amzn.to/3qGUioz
Siglent Oscilloscope: amzn.to/2SMZMlq
MicSig Oscilloscope: amzn.to/3hbqGNb
You can support this channel with this link to Patreon - I really do appreciate your support? This support helps me purchase the equipment I use for testing a reviews.
Patreon.com/KissAnalog
Hantek CC65 link: amzn.to/2PphfMs
Owon CP-05 link
amzn.to/32ROqwc
Links to Hioki multimeters:
Hioki DT4256 Multimeter: amzn.to/3rKg4Ha
Hioki DT4282 Multimeter: amzn.to/39DVP7T
Link to Fluke 189: ebay.us/RMnSUK
Link to WORKPRO 12 in 1 screwdriver: amzn.to/3vVO31N
Links to other related videos:
Hioki DT4256 Multimeter: amzn.to/3rKg4Ha
Hioki DT4282 Multimeter: amzn.to/39DVP7T
Testo 760-2 vs Fluke 117 Multimeter - which is best? • Testo 760-2 vs Fluke 1...
Fluke rant test leads: Fluke Rant - Better Test leads Please • Fluke Rant - Better Te...
Fluke TPAK Hanging meter Kit $42 or $10 • Fluke TPAK Hanging met...
Fluke Rant - are they overpriced? • Fluke Rant - are they ...
Links to meters:
Klein MM700 multimeter: amzn.to/3vm8JR3
Fluke 117 multimeter link: amzn.to/3oS2Dnx
testo 760-2 multimeter link: amzn.to/2JRRS5S
Amprobe AM570 multimeter link: amzn.to/3oQMDlM
HT200B link: amzn.to/2KAne0J
Link to FLIR meters in Amazon:
FLIR DM92 multimeter: amzn.to/2ztKOXI
FLIR DM93 multimeter: amzn.to/3ebyASF
Links to other Meters:
Kaiweets HT200B AC current clamp: amzn.to/33e3czt
Kaiweets HT206D AC/DC current clamp: amzn.to/2HzYLHO
Kaiweets HT118A 6000 count multimeter: amzn.to/3fqfWYR
Amprobe AM570 multimeter link: amzn.to/3eurd8S
Fluke 117 multimeter link: amzn.to/2AhsEbA
Amazon Commercial 90DM030 multimeter: amzn.to/2Jl9yCT
Zotek multimeter: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_dSJ...
AliExpress Store: bit.ly/3fkMlPb
Amazon Commercial 90DM610 multimeter. amzn.to/37VXe7E
or amzn.to/2Zdo8VU
Popular Links:
Micro-cap Tutorials playlist link: Micro-Cap • Micro-Cap
Boost Converter Introduction • Boost Converter Introd...
Power supply talk: • Power Supply Types and...
Link to Amazon for Boost Converter: amzn.to/32HOEFsY - Наука та технологія
12bit, 14bit, 16bit. It is like windows, there is 32bit or 64. I can't imagine how clear it might, when we get up to that value and time. I might have to wait for that and make my first and last scope ever! 😄 this channel is really helpful, just like the eevlog and jat. A real engineers not just on paper.
Thanks so much! Yes, the 8 bit scopes have been around so long. It is nice to see 12 bit scopes becoming more affordable. I really like the Picoscopes because the firmware is always getting updated.
Great review. Really like the Pico the best. Really like the ability to hook it up to 32 inch monitor and see everything super clear.
Thank you! I agree - it is nice to have a big screen;)
I bought the tablet style (OWON TAO3104A). It's similar to a micsig, but it's 14 bit. Hands down the best value out there for six hundred dollens. There's literally only one video about it on youtube. People are sleeping on this one
Wow that is a fantastic price! I see it has a 10% discount, but it is close to $750 which is still a great deal on a 14 bit scope: amzn.to/461In8Z
Great comparisons!
Thanks so much!
Pico scope is my favourite out of them, ease of use is the main factor that attracted me. Thank you for doing the great video. FFT is the main tool for a power electronics engineer I guess!. waiting for FFT comparison, thanks.
Thank you! It is coming up soon:)
Thanks for this video. It explains so much.
You bet! Thanks for the feedback!
Good ! Thank you !
Thank you!
This is exactly the reason I bought the Owon XDS3102A, because it has 12 bit vertical resolution (I mostly do audio work). 8 bit is fine if you mostly do digital stuff, but for audio, you want better resolution.
Thanks for this feedback! How do you like the Owon?
@@KissAnalog It has been fine for my needs, so I have no complaints. The 8 inch 800 X 600 screen is also very nice. Very sharp.
To see the resolution difference between 12 and 8 bits the oscilloskope should be in Stop mode. Than you can enlarge the signal and you will see the steps and not the 100 kHz sinewave.
Thank you! You are right - that is a great way to do it.
@@KissAnalog Thank you. I didn't watch to all of your videos up to now, but I like them.
Hi Eddie, wondering what sort of settings you use on the function generator to get 1khz sine with 100khz on top? I want to replicate that with my Siglent function generator if possible.
Great question! You can try setting the gen output to 1 kHz sine at 1 Vrms, then set the modulation to AM at 100 kHz with 1% depth for the 1 mVrms.
Let me know how it goes. Which Scope do you have?
That worked perfectly. Thank you!
I tried the wave combine feature first, and it looked similar but not quite the same. The modulation seems to focus on the spikes, so I see the 100khz signal on the top and bottom of the sine wave, while the wave combine affected the whole sine wave equally, making it look more distorted than in your video.
I have the Siglent SDS1204X-E. I can see the 1% modulation fine on the sine wave, but not 0.1%. I was actually able to consistently see 0.1% on the FFT, though it's very close to the noise floor, so if I wasn't looking for it, I would have thought it was just some random noise.
Great feedback - thanks! Did you want me to show how I set it up? Maybe I should make a video and try to do it on two different generators?
I think that would be really nice!
Also, I notice you often use differential probes in your measurements on amplifier circuits. I watched your video on oscilloscope safety, which was really good. Something I would find very useful is if you could also show and talk about safety in actual situations, like when you do measurements in your projects. How to find out if it's safe to probe the output of an amplifier with a regular probe vs when to use a differential probe and so on. Maybe you already have good videos on the topic that I missed though.
@@KissAnalog Cool. I didn't knew that was possible on my Siglent SDG.
I tried this on my Rigol MSO5074, and the image was pretty clear! Much better than any of the other scopes demonstrated! No problem measuring exactly the 100kHz signal at 10mV. So I'm sticking with my sub-$1K, 8 bit AD scope!
It's really strange--- as you wave your finger in front of the waveform on the screen--- it appears in my mind like your finger is somehow going BEHIND the waveform. lol... It's like an optical illusion.. My brain is completing the waveform and making it look like it's in front of your finger somehow--- when it's obviously not. trippy
LOL - its just my magic;)
On a side note, I don't know what's going on with that shirt (thought bubbles?) but I really like it!
Thanks! It was from a friend of the family that had some creative company, but not sure if they are still around...
What is the model of the Picoscope?
Great question. This was the 4444 which is the 4 channel with isolated input.
Audio guys prefer the old CRT scopes for wave forms, I have both on my bench.
Thanks James! I used to have a Tek2465B that I really liked, but I ended up getting rid of it when the deep memory digital scopes became affordable. I always like to save a waveform, so I'd move from the CRT to a digital to store, then I just ended up staying with the digital;)
That's why I have a Tek 564 on my bench.
👍
Thank you!
Kiss Anulog Good Morning 🙏 🌄 Take care and have a great day kiss Anulog
Great video thank you 👍 👏
From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧
Good morning! Appreciate you NiCk;)
a 100 mV range / 256 bits = ~0.39 mV per bit (--not 3.9 mV/bit--)--although, with 10 divisions, it would be 3.9mV/div
a 100 mV range / 4096 bits = ~0.0244 mV per bit (--not .22 mV/bit--)--although, with 10 divisions, it would be .244mV/div
Not too impressed by the PicoScope, tbh--especially at that price. I'd order the scopes by preference as follows:
MicSig
GW Instek
PicoScope
Siglent
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the feedback. The part that you are not considering is that I explained that there are 10 vertical devisions in my example, so multiply by 10 then we have the same numbers;)
@@KissAnalog True. I noticed that & updated my comments before I saw your response.