Pino Palladino and Joe Dart both do this - here's why
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
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So, Pino Palladino and Joe Dart are both awesome bass players...
And, they both do a very specific thing with their bass technique.
This specific thing they do gives them the ability to play fast lines, licks and grooves in a super clean way without stumbling over themselves and ending in a whole hot mess...
In this lesson I'm going to show you the thing they're both doing, give you video examples of them both doing it...
And, on top of that give you one of the best exercises you can ever use to give you the ability to play fast lines and runs on the bass.
As always, see you in the shed...
Scott :)
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I thought the video was about their necks.
😁😁😁
There's a certain amount of pigeon in the ancestry of many fine bassists.
Me too! :-D
Damn you Eddie Kurtz ... You beat me to the punch(line).
Haha, beat me to it
Joe Dart is the modern bass idol! So happy he's getting the recognition he deserves!
Jack Alterman you're telling me that Joe Dart doesn’t have his own signature style? Do tell, who is he copying exactly?
When I said he was an idol it meant he's on the spotlight and lots of people recognize him. He aint a legend or up the ranks of the greats but he's inspiring nontheless. Other bassists borrow styles, Joe too, but he has new stuff on the table as well. He's a great bassist from this era. I dont wanna complicate things all bassists are cool in every way :)
@@TheEstonianAaron check out the bass player from Stuff, very comparable, Joe does his own thing though, in a good way
Make sure you know mononeon
I like JD. You can tell within a few notes when it's him, from the sound and the notes he plays. Sure, he's standing on the shoulders of giant funky bass players, but he's managed to carve his own identity and he's done it with a lot of skill and musicality. Good on him.
Woody Goss = Just A Happy Man
Hijacking this to remember that Goss wrote that piece
The Birdwatcher himself
@@favogiuseppo Did your mom tell you this?
@@hristi.yanche8487 She tells me every time we hang out
Woody smiles, a common reaction to a great bass fill
Pino has hands that can palm a medium size planet.
Him and Jaco could start an arpeggio on the 3rd fret and play the next note on the 9th fret of the D string.
They had ALIEN fingers.
Indiana Jones Seriously, Jaco has huge feelers
Pino's hands can provide shade to a small boy
*Davie504 pff*
He's like 6'8"
green marker was a bad idea
@MomoTheBellyDancer Pears?! ;)
Purple marker is still missing though, return ASAP!
@MomoTheBellyDancerapples and "something else"
Green is not a creative color
@MomoTheBellyDancer Agreed.
I'm a simple man, I see Joe Dart in the title, I hit the like button
Lol ;)
Whereas, I'm sick of hearing about the moderately talented bastard!
@@thewomble1509 moderately? cmon now man, respect where respects due
@@natecorning I'm being true to myself. I don't get the hype. He's nowhere near the level of Jaco, Pino,Bobby Vega, jamerson, Bernard Edwards and about another fifty bassists that come to mind.
It's a cult of personality and easy availability among people of a certain age. Very predictable.
@@thewomble1509 no one's saying he's the best, but he's clearly very technically gifted and if you see Vulfpeck live you'll see he is extremely tight and funky
John Deacon was another good example of keeping the wrist low. His left hand technique was awesome.
If you can’t see the green marker:
SPEED
>MUST HAVE 1 - FRETTING HAND
>MUST HAVE 2 - PLUCKING HAND
>MUST DO 3 - SPEED BURST EXERCISE
moost have: fretting hands, noockles down, ploocking hand
@@bastelkleber6665 LMAOOO
thanks!!
As a drummer, this lesson just opened my eyes to learning as a drummer. Doing the same in fills, but applying some of the learning techniques from Scott, has given me good practice ideas.
Cheers buddy
Giving the progressional timeframe was possibly the most helpful part, and makes this lesson really stand out. Thanks, Scott. I hope you're reading this - because despite the clickbait title, you really nailed it.
One of the most useful tutorials (for my personal knowledge) I've seen from your channel. Please, more Joe Dart! There's a lot to talk about him ;)
Me encantan tus vídeos! Sigue así :)
@@jackalterman What a fucking incredibly ignorant statement
@@jackalterman Have you even listened to vulfpeck? i mean more than 3 songs
Why does no one on the production team, including Scott, realise that light green thin pen on a whiteboard is almost invisible? Seriously SBL - thick black pen please :)
Malcolm Goldie you have to enroll for the good markers.
yep...
@@MaadScience 😂😂😂👏😁
Malcolm Goldie because it makes you listen instead of just watch.
Malcolm Goldie He moost get some black ones
Great stuff Scott! Your instruction has helped me develop soooo very much over the years! Great exercises 😎👍
Good lesson, as always. Saw these exercises in your past lessons. Very useful exercises.
Another great video Scott. Thanks!
Scott, that Anniversary F Bass is gorgeous and sounds amazing! I love my BN4 but I've got that Anniversary bass on my GAS list!!!
This was a very great, informative video. Thanks for posting/sharing it, Scott!!
Thanks for tuning in dude!
This video really helped me out. Good one, Scott.
4. Must do: chicken neck
What's the chicken neck?
Must have*
Thank you Scott for this! much appreciated! :)
Thank you scott. You are so helpful
seems like whenever i watch these videos i find out im already doing the thing they talk about but i just dont notice i was already doing it.
Dean town is a really fun song to play, "a walk to remember" is even more fun
Thank you Scott!! 🙌🏿
Please do more lessons about joe dart ! My favorite bass player !
Please be VERY careful when bending the wrist. It will, of course, bend occasionally, just don't keep it bent all the time. CTS AND RMS can develop and this IS NOT GOOD !!!!
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Seems pretty contrary to what the great Adam Neely tried to teach me.
Worth a like for the quick ‘carry on camping’ clip alone
More Joe Dart please!
Jack Alterman what do you dislike about his playing?
Jack Alterman Agree 100% that there’s better players (always will be). I don’t particularly think people are saying he’s the best player here tho, there’s just a lot of comments about him cause it’s a video about the way he plays lol. I doubt there would be many on say a video about Jaco or Marcus Miller
He is fantastic in the pocket. Thats why i love him. His groove (even on very slow tracks) is off the chain
Great lesson! Thank you, Scott :)
Is that a Furlanetto (F Bass)? I have been to George Furlanetto's shop...beautiful instruments!
That bass sounds godly. Chills.
At the end of practically every one of Scott's videos my response is: Sir, yes sir!
Excellent !! Thanx a lot ;-)
Love the green marker!
People look down on speed because they can’t pull it off, but speed is freedom. Playing fast all the time is boring, but being able to play fast when you want/need to is essential. I’m a guitarist, not a bassist, but I love the bass. If I did have the time to play another instrument, which I don’t, it would be the bass. I work on my speed all the time, and slowly, but surely, it comes along. Great video. Keep up the good work.
Nice lesson Nice bass and very nice watch 😉
It's funny, my friend played me that video and I learned about pino yesterday! And I saw that video of dean town a couple days ago!
Hey Scott, I'm an academy member and was just wondering if you could break down some of these lines you are doing in this video for the academy members, especially the first one!
4:37 Woody moving his head like Stevie Wonder. :-)
Nice advices, greetings from Mexico 🇲🇽
I am a SBL member and I do all the exercises for FH and PH. After a year and a half I noticed I can play way FASTER!
This really works guys!!!
Peace and Groove 🤟🏽💀🤘🏽
Two of my favourite groovers
Scott really is a fantastic bassist, not just a great teacher.
Good lesson
Awesome information! Thank you. Is that a special Bass Glove on the fretting hand?
It's for a medical condition. He's made a video about it.
Hi Scott, great lesson as always, thanks! Please use a Black marker, way better than green
Some amazing hard truths but well needed
Very cool Scott... I'm working the technique accelerator course so I think I'll pass on the practice course for now
Scott, I've played for over 10 years but one aspect of economy plucking I've struggled with is being able to keep the same tempo immediately when economy plucking to a lower string. Say I'm playing a series of 16ths on idk, G on the D string and then I wanna shift to that same groove on the A string. I often find that if this tempo is too fast, it's hard to keep this string of notes going. Any tips on improving consistent economy plucking when ascending up each string?
You do a great job of not just tailoring your lessons to beginners.
Thank you.
Please tell me what bass your useing love the two tone wood with that beautiful warm wood look.
It's an F-bass PJ.
please do an interview with joe dart w.r.t technique and approach to funk :)As always Thank you for you work and lessons. Appreciated :)
Could you do a technical analysis of the bass line of Breakthru - Queen, sounds is easy but it's a finger twister XD
Hey Scott! I enjoyed the lesson, however my problem with speed is mostly on my plucking hand. Fx the intro to Dean town. Ive noticed Joe plays with 3 fingers, should i too or how can i in any other way increase my plucking speed?
But joe Joe Doesn't play with 3 fingers...
What?
@@badnoodlez thanks for the response! I also have struggles with holding on to the speed whilst playing. My hand sorta cramps if i play fast alot. Any tips?
You didn't mention thumb placement on plucking hand... for me I switch from anchored on the pickup to floating over the strings depending on playing lower or higher strings.
If your plucking hand is being problematic, my bass teacher has made me float over the E when I play it and rest my thumb on top of the E string when I play the A. He said I slightly change the angle of my PH when I switch from anchored to floating, maybe that'll do something for you ( if it's needed of course )
Wonderful!!!
I'm gonna chime in here for topic #1... though I agree that having the wrist extended (relative to the forearm) is a bad thing, so is having it flexed. Bio-mechanically, it's most advantageous to keep the wrist neutrally in line with the forearm (think of it as having the back of your hand and the back of your forearm in line). I'm not gonna bore ya with the details, but speaking as a physical therapist, all that I know suggests that is the way to go for finger flexibility, dexterity, and injury prevention (alright, I'll bore you a little = think of all the tendons that pass from your forearm to your fingers... the reason they don't bowstring is that there is tissue - a retinaculum - that holds them down at the wrist. When you flex your hand at the wrist, as is suggested in this vid, you're placing a tremendous amount of tension on that tissue and basically are asking for injury. Seasoned players can at times get away with this, especially if they have a great stretching routine as part of their prep, but it's not the preferred way of doing things. It's just a thing peeps do so they can get away with lowering their bass down on their bodies).
The brief track played during the Speed clip was by Skillet - Bass player is also the lead singer.
Interesting, Adam Neely says the exact opposite; “keep your wrist straight”
What do you feel about this in comparison to this video where you say angle the wrist
Might just be me, but I'd rather play like Joe Dart than like Adam Neely.
Dan Saunders have you ever listened to sequence start by sungazer? Adams bass line in that is more interesting than most things joe plays. Joe is a great player and maybe my favorite bassist but his technical skill isn’t anywhere near Adams.
You want to have the neck height and or angle elevated so as to have the wrist out AND straighter as opposed to a sharp bend ideally.
If u have a disco Man strap pos ur hands get different
I side with Adam on this one - keep your wrists straight. I just developed a painful Ganglion Cyst for not keeping a straight wrist, and now can't play for who knows how long.
Scott do a Joe Dart interview!!!!
Weird question Scott, but in my plucking hand the end of my index finger ends at about where the cuticle of my middle finger begins. I'm not sure if this is for most human dudes, but I find myself compensating by slanting my hand a little sort of like Stanly Clarke. Any pro tips? Also sweet vid!
I have that same issue funnily enough I compensated by bending my middle finger you might try it and see if it helps but again everyone is different and needs different things
Cheers Scott ; D
Awesome!!!
Excellent lesson Sir! Especially the lesson with skipping the strings and breaking down to simple sections is the key to success in music for me. In music, greatness seams to come from perfecting simple things. Keep up the splendid work and keep making great lessons!
Love the Stanley Clarke at 0:36
What type of bass is that? Nice!
Why do SBL Academy members have to pay extra to do some of the online courses? Also payment in USD?
4:37 That's just a happy man lol
Scott you should use a black marker. It will improve the contrast.
Incorporating speed bursts into my practice...thank you!
Side note...I have no problem seeing the green marker, but please switch to black so people will stop complaining! LOL!
Joeco dartstorious
Lol, love it ;)
Lol thanks, do you think that you will do any hadrien feraud technique videos in the future?
I would really love some help for stuff like that.
Absolutely no comparison. Have you actually heard Jaco's compositions? Joe Dart is a musical infant in comparison. I can't believe (well, actually I can,) Scott Devine giving Joe Dart so much kudos. And why does everyone talk about him as though he's their best mate? Something quite creepy about this cult of Dart.
If he had been playing twenty five years ago, no one would have taken any real notice. Emperor's new clothes part 685!
The womble sorry man I was just making a little joke😄
@@thewomble1509 what I find mildly creepy is your apparent need to reply on every other commenter who thinks of Joe Dart as a great bass player in a frankly, dare I say, condescending manner - as if the man had no worth as a musician and each and every one who appreciates him and gets inspired by him is an utter fool and moron. I don't know, I may be completely wrong, but that's how your comments come across to me. I can't say I have an opinion of Joe Dart - never heard of him until maybe a week ago, and the few tunes I've heard I can say he plays well (and the tunes are good). But if people get inspired by watching/listening him play, isn't that a great thing in itself? Maybe some kid will pick up a bass because of this "cult of" Dart, and end up finding out about Jaco and Marcus Miller and the likes...
Nice tone! Is this a full scale? It looks more like a 32" scale.
My natural tendency with right hand alternate picking is to start with the middle finger, i.e. m - i - m - i rather than i - m - i - m. Is that something I should try to correct or doesn't it matter too much?
Doesn't matter at all - you do you!
Love it! Please use a different coloured pen though!
7:57 sounds like the start of Go your own way
Thank you Thank you Thank you
Slept thinking about this, all night! I think my plucking is quite good, I use three fingers actually. My problem is definitely the fretting hand!
For more on speed technique, check out videos of Alex Webster, Erlend Caspersen, Ryan Martinie, Evan Brewer, Mark Michell, and Nick Schendzielos.
pretty funny that I was literally trying to figure out a Joe dart base solo last night and I couldn't basically keep up with my hand so I was doing this exercise myself.
Me gusta su manera de enseñar
Спасибо, Скотт! Основа основ)
Love the videos dude 😎 if you ever need some beats would love to get involved 😎🙏🤘🥁
4:38 a happy man indeed
I, much like my biggest bass influence so far, Bobby Vega, was always disappointed by my accented 16ths with fingers. It’s actually what drew me to him after posting about my issue on talkbass many moons ago. Someone suggested, ‘do it with a pick like Bobby!’ So I did.
I love playing Vulf songs with a pick. Because I’m a masochist apparently, I’ve gotten to the point of using no pick, but a picking style as if I’m holding one, so I can more easily and fluidly switch to what I find is a superior staccato sound with fingers digging in a bit. So I AM trying to get my finger style chops up to par for the funk lines, but doing them with a pick feels so good. Especially with no drummer, I love creating the backbeat with some arm drops on the accents, which in turn helps my overall feel so when I sit down and try to do it fingerstyle, the groove is already in my body.
can you do a bass lesson on the song Maggie Mae?
Nice intro 🤘
Love the 1.5 seconds of Skillet in the beginning!
Great video. But the green marker is very difficult to see.
Can anyone explain me when you have to move your plucking hand thumb down ? I have big hands so I want to let it on the pickup but I see all bass player moving the thumb on strings...
The thumb moves to mute the lower strings when playing on the higher(pitch) strings. If you keep it rooted on the pickup you’ll have to mute with ring finger and pinky
@@gilbycoyote Okkkk! thank you :) And could it be for a comfort reason ?
Maxime, the “moving thumb technique” is a good way for 1) damping adjacent strings, and 2) getting the same distance between the strings when you play 5- or 6-string basses. I find this technique very useful for both. On a 4-string bass it works fine to rest the thumb on the pickup but on a wider 5- or 6-string bass you need to have slightly different plucking technique depending on whether you play the low B or the higher, thinner strings. With the moving thumb you always have the same distance and angle to the next string. I started to use the moving thumb technique when I bought my 5-string bass (after playing a 4-string for 30 years) and now I use the same technique for all my basses. Hope this helps.
@@inber Thx a lot for the explanation!
What about the head bobbing?
I feel like Scott already showed that Pino clip before
"as a drummer, you wouldn't have a weak left hand" - You've obviously never seen my appalling drumming then :)
My problem is I have a pbass, neck too wide, is this valid?
Its hard to find a band that will challenge you. Most times they want you to play simple bass. Or they say you play to much. Kinda rock and a hard place. Here in alexandria
Is that a short scale bass?
Finally a pj orientation
Not to undermine this video, but, does anyone know about the “practice accelerator” when Scott mentions if you sign up, you get a life time access to the “ENTIRE PROGRAM” .......does that mean both the accelerator and his normal school???? Or just the accelerator???
You need to write in black ink.
I might of missed the video, but what bass is Scott playing?
F Bass made in Hamilton Canada
that breathing in the beginning xD
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