Any bad experience by players is so easily dealt with. Block. Never see em again. Shit Lords are going to be Shit Lords, nothing any fuqn PSN or Steam can do to "prevent" it. It's up to you. Block, block, block. Empower yourself folks.
@@ilovewaffles321same but from what I’ve seen it tends to only be the dev type that the factory striders spawn so at least it’s not the heavy or rocket devs
A great tip that i dont see mentioned enough is to just get outta there, if it gets so spicy that you cant clear everything before the next reinfocement just leave, take care of another objective, base or side obj, and come back by then most enemies are either spread out or dispawned, you can now have another try at it.
This happened to me once and I didn’t actually realize since the were over a hill and a threw an air strike since I thought it was just a patrol but then I got a 47 kill streak out of nowhere lol
Sidenote. I didn't even realize it was 1/6th before. 1/4 is fine. Been sitting about about 7th tier difficulty for me. Still a good challenge, consistent W's, hilarious times, frustrating times, the gambit. Loving it.
Yeah that's actually not so bad, what I thought happened was that they adjusted the spawn rate to be consistent with a full squad no matter how many team mates (or if by yourself)
@@reaperraider999 The thing is, it's not 1/6th or 1/4th. It used to be that solo players faced 2/3rds of the patrols of 4 players sticking together. Now they face the same amount. The thing is, the game considers players that are close enough to each other as if they were a single player. The scenario where you have that ratio between solo and 4-man is if they all scatter. Which isn't frequent.
I think the reason people play the hardest difficulty and complain that it's too hard yet refuses to change the difficulty are either too prideful to change said differently or scared that they'll get made fun of for not playing the game at its hardest.
@@Guitarfailtastic2857 Yeah.. aren't you playing solo for a challenge? Atleast try to learn about the game for a bit, I don't think anybody would blame you for atleast trying to cheese the game and get the xp aswell. Ofcourse there's going to be luck involved with the game. Some people just can't see the bigger picture, I guess.
Or the secret third option most people don't like to mention: The game isn't well balanced at the moment and there are still tons of bullshit going on. I don't want to always win, I just want to have fun while trying to win. Yet the person in charge of the balance changes seems to hate solo players and not understand how fun works. Specially given their past history with game development. (spoiler: it's terrible)
Indeed “made patrol spawn rates in solo play proportional to those for teams” or something along those lines would have made thing clearer than the “increased solo spawn rates” we got. If you were under the impression they were already proportional, the latter might give the wrong impression. Then again I feel a lot of these are just knee jerk reactions based on theory crafting without trying it out what a change actually does.
The problem is, on lower levels you dont get to see or fight the big guys, tanks, hulks, BT's etc and you cant get the samples you need...theres no other way to experience all the enemy types, or earn the rare/super samples unless you play on 7+ and not everyone has somebody online to play with daily so there needs to be some other way to earn the samples we need or they need to fix the game so that closing bugholes, takin down outposts and fabricators, and completing OBJ's weakens the enemies numbers so we have a fair chance at extracting without having to catch the emergency pelican after the timer runs out. They dont have to make 7+ easier, but it needs to be adjusted based on the number of Divers in the mission. Since the "patch" I cant extract a lvl 7 solo anymore. The more you do in a mission, the more aggressive and numerous the enemies become. More patrols, more heavies, etc. Call for extraction and you're done cause it sends 4 or 5 mobs of hell at one Diver -lol Playin with randoms these days is a shitshow with most of them not having a mic or if they do, they are in party chat or on discord, and the rest with mics are little mouthy punk squeakers with their mom in the background hollerin about cleaning their room or some shit. With no communication, u get clusterbombed, cant tell guys they are spread out too much and causing more patrols and spawns or that they have a swarm flanking...it just sucks...to be quite honest, playin solo is just as much fun or maybe more fun as playin with a full squad and they really need to adjust the game so those of us that aren't sweaty streamer no-lifers with no job or family that play games 12 or 14 hours a day can get our samples and enjoy ALL of the game instead of the big enemies and ship upgrades bn locked behind a difficulty that requires people to play with.
I do think removing outposts should result in an overall lessened rate of patrols. Oh, and those samples are a reward for more difficult gameplay, difficult gameplay consists of fighting bigger and more targets.
Level 7 is a perfect difficulty balance once you figure it out. I have done a lot of practice on lower levels. I would not do 7s without at least one or two others.
As an old timey gamer, I would speculate the change in videogames from limited lives to unlimited tries is partly to blame. From Mario to Sonic, Earthworm Jim to Vectorman, we always had a limited number of lives/continues. Then somewhere in the late 90s (Legacy of Kain Soul Reaver I think?) the idea of never actually losing a game came about. The kids that only knew that growing up have a more difficult time accepting a limited number of reinforcements. I dunno, maybe I'm way off. Just my two cents.
Fair, but there are numerous modern games that carried the concept of finite lives into the modern day. - In Call of Duty Zombies, dying ends the game, and playing again means restarting from round 1. - In Left 4 Dead and Payday 2, you can only be incapacitated a finite number of times before the next one sends you straight into death. However, this count can be reset if you use each game's premier but finite healing item. - In Counter Strike, you only get one life per round. Dying means you're spectating your teammates until the end of the round. - Many first person shooters have a popular gamemode where there's only one life per round. - Minecraft has an optional "hardcore" mode where you have one life, and if you die, you don't get to respawn. - Many Battle Royale games used to only allow you to live once per match, and have moved to a live system. All this being said, there's a lot of games where you get to try the same challenge again and again. Helldivers 2 is sort of unique because if you fail a mission, you never get to try it again because each mission is procedurally generated, and thus each mission is completely different, so you can't play the same old one again.
So, some folks did a test (takibo and some others) which suggests that Arrowhead broke yet another feature trying to fix it. All group sizes seem to be dealing with full spawns; this means that by extract you’re dealing with a max of 1 patrol every 10 seconds; more likely, a patrol every 12-16 seconds. People are pulling solo helldives off, sure, but as a casual and chronic noob, I certainly noticed the change. For me, Terminids are just not possible to solo over difficulty 4, and I’m just scraping by on challenging automatons. Call me crazy, but I think 100% spawns is asking a bit much of the *average* small group or solo player. Again, this isn’t confirmed, but if true, is pretty shitty and could blow up in arrowhead’s face again.
So currently I'm considering them to be bugged. There's no reason they would intentionally state a 1/4 increase then purposely turn it into a 4/4. Fumbling a 1/4 into a 4/4 however, they absolutely would. So, I'm now holding out all opinions on the matter until they fix it.
Got a buddy who always sounds so surprised when he gets killed. He changed his armour from the fortified passive to engineering kit, and gets killed by bots a lot more than before. Still, constantly... I hear him going "WHAT‽” Love me some redheads and I've loved me some redheads. And people... You did know you need not engage with every patrol you encounter, right? Know when to avoid and when to spawn a bot drop or a bug breach.
often for not you cant avoid bug breaches like you can bots. Though the new aggro buff they got is quite bothersome. It would be really cool if they added silenced weapons would it not? Silenced weapons aren't fully silent. So in a set distance they couldn't be used. And if the goal is to pick off from a far I feel like divers should be allowed better usage of the map's terrain. Sometimes, these high surfaces feel like they're just there. Maybe that is just me lol.
While I agree with the video, I found myself thinking on the statement "one fourth of a four-person squad can handle one fourth of the enemy spawns of a four person squad". That is not entirely true. More squaddies are a force multiplier. More eyes to scope incoming, more diversity in loadout, more flexible respawn than the mandatory auto-drop, etc... This is not to deny that (as mainly a solo player at mid difficulty at most) the change in itself did little to harm my experience, but more a statement on why direct math isn't always the best way to approach these topics. If I was presented this question with no context, I would fundamentally disagree with the decision of Arrowhead - but knowing what I know, I'd say that a squad can handle more than the 100% used as a base from which a solo player receives 25%. A nitpick, to be sure, but wanted to get my thoughts out in case they might help someone reason through their objection to the change.
UA-cam jacked up the sending of my first response so in short it was this. Playing solo also has its advantages like stealth and better hit and run gameplay.
eventually they'll need to add missions with genuine difficulty and not difficulty padding as they have so far. It is partially why solo is make it or break it for many people. The objectives aren't hard, its often for not the game's balancing that matters over the objective. If the game had or will get far harder actual objectives solo players can look at something that doesn't account for game balance. Thats all solo play talk really is about, how the game is balanced over how hard the game really is. Two incongruent things that line up to make difficulty as a whole.
I always love your videos and hearing your perspectives on things. And your words about playing on lower difficulties means a lot to me. Due to way too many factors, I almost have to play solo, and I've been slowly getting up to levels 5 and 6 by myself. It feels nice being reassured that there's nothing wrong with the lower levels
There isn’t mfs just too damn prideful and knock anyone who doesn’t solo helldive. Funny thing is most of the people who do this aren’t even ready for helldive themselves
Great video. Practice practice practice. When you can comfortably get pass one difficulty and it starts to get mewh, turn up the heat. Then you’ll start feeling the challenge. Maybe for some I’d like to think.
Had the best reminder today to be chill and not rage out. I died while working on an egg hatchery mission across the map from my team. They reinforced me across the map, not their fault for not knowing that I was working on one of the objectives. I got very upset and just got very immature about it. My normally muted mic was not muted unbeknownst to me. When I realized my whole team heard me piss and moan like a child, the embarrassment was immeasurable. At the end of the game, I apologized to my squad. Graciously, the other squad mate that had his mic on super cool and said it happens to the best of us. Note to self: calm down, it’s just a game. And might as well keep that mic on and use it constructively instead of being muted so I can get angry and talk to myself
I love playing with randoms. You don’t even need real life friends to enjoy the game. Solo try hards who complain about the new patrol changes need to realize that this is a CO-OP shooter.
I do wonder if they just don't want people soloing - I do both and sometimes just like the challenge of solo. But on a simple level 3 just now (getting some credits) it wasn't difficult but it was tedious due to the constant stream of incoming patrols, and this is with clearing the nests before the main objectives. A challenge is fine and a lot of solo players do it for that and to test builds out. I can understand the devs wanting to make the higher levels harder for solo players, but there's that fine line between challenging and just annoying, when it's becoming a chore on the lower to mid range difficulties due to constant chained patrols. My point is, having hectic and calmer moments are good, the contrast so to speak, but it seems several updates are slowly moving away from that towards some forced way of bumping up the difficulty with the patrols. Still love the game, just slightly concerned in their approach to the difficulty tuning at times for solo/smaller groups.
I think bugs in general are not the most fun to play due to their organization and weird resistances. I get that bile titans are supposed to be strong and that's ok. But it doesn't make sense that they can slow you by barfing within a square mile of you while also being faster than you.
This didn't age well as there has been tests and found that they coded the patrol timer to the exact same spawn rate as a 4 man squad... so instead of being set to "1/4th" like they intended, they made it "4x" lol
This is a bug, not an intentional effect. In any case it's still possible to finish them. Then again, I've felt solo helldive wasn't enough of a punch in the mouth for a while.
I like the variability of difficulty, agree with your takes on solo play on helldive. This game has a wide range of difficulties and thats good. Don't quite understand why some people are so nutty about it. My friends and I tend to play on 7 because its challenging but not mad. We occasionally do 8 and 9 but because of the intensity we generally don't do it all the time. But what is great is there are so many difficulties for precisely that, you find what suits you. 1/6 - 1/4 seems reasonable change, surely people understand you have to practice and get better to be able to helldive solo in the first place
I still think the enemy spawning is somehow bugged. I´ve been playing with a friend on Level 4 and we´ve been obliterated with lots of chargers, continously spawning new ones out of thin air right next to us. Always right after we managed to kill one or two of them, multiple replacements would spawn, without any source for it like bug holes in the area. It´s been way too excessive to be normal on that level...
What could be happening is you're passing by POIs and they're dormant under the ground near those until activated in the proximity of someone. I'm mostly the bot guy, but I'll be doing more bugs soon in order to sort more out there as well.
Just as a side note, if you make a Discord account, MAKE SURE you opt out of their mandatory arbitration policy. You have 30 days to do so after making a new account. If you have a current one, the deadline is May 15th.
Even if the numbers were correct and it was 1/4, solo vs duo, trio and 4 players is not linear. Even having 1 extra person watching your back is huge. It’s a synchronous vs asynchronous issue. Just like doing a task with 2 people vs 1 is not simply twice as fast. Having said that, the best players in the world who solo who can kill bots faster than anyone are getting non stop drop calls faster than they can eliminate. Something is off. The drops are happening more frequently than a 4 man. I’ve noticed this on difficulties as low as challenging solo where a bot drop happens twice straight up ignoring the supposed 1 minute cool down for drops that’s supposed to get. This is not a skill issue. I had no issues other than I what I observed. Now perhaps we had the opposite problem before where when it was supposedly 1/6 bot drops were not happening frequently enough. This isn’t really how many patrols problem as much as a bots / breaches are happening faster than they should be. Seemingly faster than 4 man. Or at least the same. If patrols are 1/4 the drop/breach CD needs to be longer for fewer players.
Playing dozens of hours in helldive has not yielded these results for me whatsoever. In any case you stated bot drops as an issue. That is not a patrol problem.
@@JebblesJunior In the thick of it, it's really hard to determine what the problem is. From a player perspective it just feels more than a 1/6 -> 1/4 increase. Even if it is a drop/breach problem. I don't usually play Hell Dive solo, I play with a 4 man. But watching some people play solo live, it seems to be a whole lot more than what I get. But personally I've experienced it at the lower difficulties where I would quickly finish off enemies only for a drop ship to appear out of nowhere, never ending whereas before it didn't used to be this way. I forget the actual numbers, but a bot drop is only supposed to happen every minute or so, but it is happening for me faster than that. And localized confusion seems to be doing nothing to increase that cool down.
@JebblesJunior yeah insult your audience. What a great way to build your channel. Testers on reddit have worked out there is no difference to patrol spawns if you are solo or in a full squad
I cant speak for anything higher than level 6 solo. I just can't handle lol. And this is before the spawn rate up! Thanks for the refeshing take. This game is the most fun ive had in ages.
Thank you! Helldive is THE hard difficulty, yet people want it to have only a moderate challenge where they're never overwhelmed or losing. OhDough in particular has been frustrating me with this kinda talk because he's a rather large creator that could influence the game. But Helldive is where it should be for solo. If anything, it doesn't need to be easier for solo, but rather harder in team-play. People don't want to lose, but losing makes winning better. That's why one would take on a real challenge. Whenever I'm up for that, I play Helldive. Normally though, I sit more comfortable at Suicide difficulty. However, I will say that the gap between Extreme and Suicideseems a bit to great and inconsistent. I feel Suicide is still a bit too hard for me on my off days, so I try Extreme. But due to the way patrols seem to path from the outside to your last known location, I've had Suicide missions where they all met me at once near mid-map and overwhelmed me but Extreme level missions where I barely had any fights. I did an evacuation on Extreme once where NO ENEMIES showed up at all! In the endgame, players have to be able to reach at least Suicide for super samples, but I'm sure some never will. Maybe that's intentional, and the upgrades are only meant for those who can.
There is no way they didn't screw up their calculations. I don't believe their "It went from 1/6 to 1/4". The day of the patch I went into some low levels to try out some of the weapon changes and there wasn't a single point where there were less than three groups of enemies walking directly at me. You can go into a 9 and pair up then split off to complete separate objectives and then do a duo on 6 and you're constantly swarmed.
This simply does not feel like the case. However, it brings up a good idea, I'd like to see some sort of training range in this game someday so we can really understand our weapons better.
@@JebblesJunior I would love the ability to fly to mars and drop to a spot where we can use any weapon and spawn any enemy. Endless testing on whatever we need practice poking weak points on.
I ignore a lot of Helldivers 2 channels. Akarmist clickbait title? Ignored. AI generated thumbnail? Ignored. (If you cant find the creativity for a good thumbnail, im assuming the content of your video is no better)
@@Svoorhout85 I get my info on the updates straight from the patch notes + playing the game. Only Helldivers related stuff on UA-cam worth my time is people genuinely adding input to the way we play to make it more engaging and fun, and memes bc memes are the DNA of the soul.
I can't verify this for myself as I'm still working through the difficulty levels with a buddy, but just watched a video where it the 1/4 spawn rate for solo play is only correct assuming the full group is completely split up. Apparently you get the same spawn rate as a full group that operates in proximity of each other. They seem to have extensively tested that. I almost exclusively play duos and we're just having fun improving, so I don't know.
There's currently a bug that's maintaining the same spawn rate across all player counts it seems. As of right now I'm not really factoring much takes on it being "terrible" into my assessment. I'm just waiting to see what it's like when it's fixed then figuring it out.
I have a friend that has a retort for every single piece of advice you gave here. I think some people that are being so damn negative about this game are just depressed, which makes them pessimistic and impossible to please. It's a sad reality but you won't convince these people that any change is good, and you can't convince them to adapt and overcome. Because the biggest hurdle they have to overcome has nothing to do with the game.
Personally, my main issue is that the upped patrol rates for solo players seems to translate to having to deal with more breaches/drops on the escort and "kill x number of enemies" missions, which can feel extremely punishing. I can handle most mission types solo on 7, but found that even with a teammate I was getting steamrolled on any of the defense missions, which can feel like a frustrating lurch in difficulty.
The only thing I do think that they should change about solo play, or rather in general? The pop ins. It does feel like a kick in the balls to completely evade a patrol and only have an entire group behind you like looney tunes. I do wish more enemies had sound cues too. Im in the Army. There is no fuckin way a tank is gonna quietly creep up on you lmao Hey, I just think the railgun nerfs were just a bit much, GIVEN the performance was being caused by the PS5 Hosting Bug
I remember there was a time when some host who was level 50 or so was killing his teammates as I was joining in, and the moment I joined in and called down a spear he killed me as well He reinforced one of us on top of a minefield and the moment he died, the guy who was alive and didn't reinforce the host immediately got kicked from the session Wacky experience
As someone who sucks still at level 20 I think that the rates were good before. I can now not finish missions solo on challenging difficulty which makes it hard to get the samples! This game should be catered to meee!
Started playing today, nice to have started watching some videos, but I feel like yours are going to be nice and helpful since so far i've only played solo, 3 bug missions, 3 automaton missions. I am very much a child in this game. Went to automaton after 4 bug drops, intro to 1 - 3 difficulty Died on first level 3 attempt cause i looked around too much and got way too held uo by the number of bugs on the first level 3 mission I had done, and died while being aware of having no strategems, gunning down the objective and running. Got held down by a hunter and slapped to death by hive guards as the last minute extraction clock was running down at around 20 seconds. Peobably could have made it though if i hadn't gotten hit. Did run it back, did win - Gonna probably post the "second half" on the Automaton beginners guide cause. I been doing gods work fighting robots with NUTHIN
So currently, the spawn rates are bugged. So if things feel overwhelming that's why. If you can do well right now you'll notice once the bug is fixed it gets way easier.
The only content creator to actually say the obvious. If helldive is to hard for you go down to the next difficulty and if that's to hard for you go down to the next level and so on until you get gud lol. I remember when sekiro and souls came out and the public out cry to nerf the entire game just baffled me
When soloing, I always do a warmup on Easy or Challenging. Depends on if I want to do one or two missions for the Op. Contributes to the planet a bit. Then, I leap face first into the shit. My take is that gunships are the only thing that can completely ruin a solo match if you mishandle it. Maybe Shriekers, too, but I haven't been in those shoes. Thankfully your vid on taking down gunships revealed to me the infinite power of the AMR. I already loved it, but always brought recoilless/quasar/spear on higher difficulty Bot missions in case of gunships. Now I'm firmly rooted in ShieldPack/AMR and my solo missions are going way better. That said, I play tons of co-op too
It's the microtransaction buyers who usually buy the best meta are the ones complaining about difficulty instead of actually playing and learning the game
I’m fine with the new patrol rates, but they really needed to fix the matchmaking issues before making the change. I can handle difficulty 7-8 as long as I’m in a squad of 3 or 4. But when people leave between missions and the slots never refill, it becomes frustrating. So now I have to restart my game anytime people leave after a mission just so I can get a full squad again, which is a less than ideal experience.
did you play solo before and after the patch ? (genuinely) because it is now absurdly difficult in solo, but super simple in a group or 4, in the exact same difficulty
I pointed this out to a YTer a while back and they basically said I can’t have an opinion because I must be a casual due to a video on my channel (diff 7 extract that got spicy, I wanted to share). It was a truly bizarre experience. I unsubbed to a lot of solo divers around that change, most of them were so salty
Good points, you do a good job at going about the video. But as a solo player I would like to say that the frequency IS the issue. Arguably the amount before was too much: Ammo is kind of the key factor here. Some guns (most) cant take on large hoards anymore. The nerfs they do are quite bothersome. And sometimes strategems are lets say a temperamental system. Solo players often struggle because too much spawns right after a fire fight and the game doesn't have much relief to this. That in itself is a problem to solo play. As we see, many updates cater to solo players to pad difficulty in often for not negative changes in reception. Few AI changes have been praised. Worse off, is weapon changes. AI scales to the highest difficulty and more so to large parties. Weapons, barely preform at all. The two don't combine to a fun experience. And yes, you could go to lower difficulty. That is true. But not everyone wants to play at the same level forever, the game doesn't justify diversity in kit usage **enough** at high level. The frequency issue is its own thing, it would be fine if our tools weren't this stupidly limited. Unkind as that sounds, it is true. For solo players, these weapon nerfs make no sense at times.
There's plenty of both weapons and stratagems for hoard clearing. Bugs are practically made of paper until you get to chargers. Even they can be taken out with a singular EAT, railcannon, railgun, autocannon to the rear etc. I will say bile titans pose a unique annoyance in that they move faster than you, slow you down, have a jacked-up hitbox and won't bleed out, but that's a bile titan issue. As for bots, find cover and aim for the enemy's weak spot. They move at a snail's pace and it's not difficult to clear should you have the ability. A laser cannon, autocannon, or AMR can take out all front facing enemies. Different weapon combinations can be used, take stalwart, stuns, and a scorcher for example. The point of high difficulty is to be difficult, and it's very possible if you put in the effort to improve.
@@JebblesJunior bile titans have to be the weirdest case of the fact they don't like dying. Ive seen them tank two 500kgs, ive seen them tank more than one RCS before even. Chargers it certainly depends for the 500kg. I've met a charger who tanked a 500kg and was a very large pain in my side because a hoard spawned AGAIN and decided to spawn not one, but two chargers. Ahaha.. Six chargers back to back is never a fun way to go with a bug match. However-, you do prove my point. The fact very very few select weapons can engage a situation (Primary and stratagem.) is the problem. Variety as we have it, does not relate to viability. Weapons should be viable, and variable. Many stratagems CANNOT make up for that like the RCS, 500kg or air strike. It applies to the entire game, exception of armor. I'm sure we'll get some new armor passives one update, right-? weapons surely wont be the only thing being added haha. With that being said! Its great to see how you talk to us and I like that I get to discuss with someone who is so experienced in the game.
...I'mma be frank like Oscar Mayer, I thought it didn't change the patrols AT ALL when you did it Solo. Not that I went Solo much anyways; hard to open them bunkers by yourself. This community, like other games I play, have a hair-trigger when it comes to changes (like someone who complained in the Offical Discord about the three nerfs to the twenty-seven buffs; truly a Hell of all scapes). I swear they're just WAITIN' for something to pitch a bitchfit over, and if they can't find something they'll make it.
As one of the people who was angry at how it was written until I played it can confirm its not really that bad. I solo helldive often and I dont notice much difference, just more kills. Still fun as hell.
Patrol rates for solo play is a bit too much sometimes. Facing terminids gets pretty annoying, feeling like endless patrols come my way if i dont sneak around the whole game.
Level-headed take, my friend. While I do have issues with the way weapons and strategems are balanced (unique perspective, I know), I think people are just getting mad at any change that increases difficulty now, regardless of whether it’s a good one. I think people would’ve been much more receptive to this if they didn’t feel like every piece of equipment is slowly degrading into a pea-shooter. I want the higher difficulties to test me, but I do agree with the perspective that the attempt by arrowhead to prevent a meta is failing on its own terms, and creating a fallout in the form of all equipment feeling less fun. More enemies on max difficulty, though? Sure! Just please keep stealth even the tiniest bit viable and I’m down for that. Tbh though, I don’t care about that stuff nearly as much as all of the glaring technical issues. For a game I enjoy largely for the immersion factor, man does that immersion get shattered pretty frequently 🤕
I can see both sides. Helldivers have a nonlinear effect on the enemies which means the difficulty should also have a nonlinear effect on the Helldivers. I see nothing wrong with that argument, but I see nothing wrong with a developer encouraging team play. DRG did it and nobody did a doubletake at coffeestain. I don’t know the technicalities of spawn rates or enemy caps in DRG difficulties, but it’s more fun with other people regardless.
I like the patrol changes for the most part. I play diff 7 solo most of the time and drop to 4-6 if I want to relax. The patrol spawns increasing before major objective completion are somewhat noticeable, but it feels reasonable. I'm also no longer getting empty extracts after the increase to patrols. These changes are good and make sense to me. The part that I don't like is how much spawns increase after main objective completion. Even on diff 4, I feel like it's not worth it to stick around and grab POIs/side objectives because 2/3 patrols will be headed towards you almost all the time. (Have almost never seen Hulks patrolling on diff 4 until this update, now I'll see them pretty much every time after main obj completion if I decide to stick around). It feels like a very obscured difficulty mechanic. I wish they would just plainly spell it out. I'm still able to do diff 7, but I have to make sure that I get everything I want done on the map completed before I head for the main objective. If I try to do anything after the main objective, it feels like there are constantly 3 patrols headed my way while I take 50 years to load SEAF artillery shells. I think the spawn changes are good for the most part, leave the current rates as they are for pre-mission completion and during extract, and then slightly tone down patrols when you're just roaming the map after the main objective is complete and they would be perfect imho. also love your content btw, nice and chill
Trying to extract on diff 4. I haven't touched the terminal. Patrols waddled into evac site one after the other. Since there's a limit. Your stuck with the entire limit. Yet, it spawns a new one in after killing one patrol. I was fighting ten minutes until the emergency shuttle came in. That was a slug to get through.
No. Wrong. It is not 1/4 effectively. Watch Luch’s videos on this. What they did was change the spawn interval to 2:45 nominally for all squad sizes when before it was 4:05 for solo on diff 4. Now, if you have a team of four and they each split up to being more than 75 m away from each other, they will get a patrol spawn each every 2:45 interval. But if they’re all together, they will only get one spawn. So unless you’re getting a squad that is hardcore lone wolfing the entire mission, the amount of enemies per diver is now higher the smaller your squad is. This is not the 1/6 to 1/4 change that the patch notes conveyed. The spawn rate is now 100% for each individual diver.
"The intention is that 1 player has 1/4th of the patrols compared to 4 players" Are the exact words of the Devs so I can't see this as anything other than a bug or coding error with the numbers. The rates don't make sense right now because they aren't supposed to be that way.
It doesn’t matter how nice they are, I would rather quit than have an online conversation. If I hear a mic, it’s straight back to my ship. I have a mic, but I never use it. I don’t want to hear anything you have to say and I respectfully assume you feel the same about me.
You do know you can disable voice chat, right? This is the first, and hopefully last instance I'll say this, don't join others if you're going to pull that.
I think the spawn rates might be bugged after the patch, this video goes over that the patrol rates aren't actually changing regardless of player count. Even when running trivial, I've felt something was a bit off, but I've never played enough to really quantify if I was just over thinking. ua-cam.com/video/1Fu6ddHejh0/v-deo.htmlsi=WOG4fw7mN5hqQsFH
We can assume they're bugged if that is true, in which case I've got a different point. If this is the case, then the problem isn't the change of rates, it's the bug with rates. I find helldive still quite manageable alone, but knowing it's going to be easier once this is resolved is interesting.
@JebblesJunior While I am for things being a challenge (this coming from a person who willing used the Lib Pen pre full auto buff lol), the current spawn rates can get a bit daunting, especially for newer people.
2:40 "most people having played more than a day or so are not frantically struggling at level 1. that means there is always a level to fall back to if you cant handle the higher ones" thats only true if you DONT want to progress through the game solo. as someone who does not like playing high diff with randoms and whos friends are usually (like myself) caught up with IRL matters, i cant progress because in order to do so i need super samples and they are ONLY at diff 7 and higher which are not that much harder to solo. and because of said IRL matters, i cant commit the time required to "get gud" enough to consistently solo diff 7+ if they want to make this change, they should have super samples spawn at diff 4+ BUT only have ONE per mission spawn at diff 4-5-6 and then 3 for diff 7 and so on. that way you cant just easy grind super samples at the lower diffs because you only get one per mission (and even at the lower diffs the super sample mound thing still spawns it just doesnt have anything to collect) if i want to solo grind HD2 then i should be able to do so as me solo playing this game does NOT negatively affect ANYONE else. the game CAN pander to solo players without taking away anything from team players, let me get a single super sample at lower diffs and let me slowly grind out ship upgrades. i dont mind the spawn change, there ARE 9 diffs for a reason, but when you lock over HALF of the ship upgrades behind super samples which ONLY spawn at the top 3 diffs THATS when i start having a problem
I'm not sure you meant to say 7+ was "Not that much harder to do" because it seems your whole point was to the contrary. You should be able to solo grind, and you can, but there's a degree of improvement needed to get to the higher levels.
@@JebblesJunior yea i miss typed that what i meant was " i cant progress because in order to do so i need super samples and they are ONLY at diff 7 and higher which are NOW that much harder to solo" referring to the new patrol spawn rates for solo. my bad as for the "degree of improvement needed" part of your reply. again i refer to the comment i made of having IRL stuff, game is super fun, but i dont have time to "get good" enough to solo higher diff, and yes i am aware that the point of the game is co-op and the whole game is co-op focused, but that doesnt mean the game has to punish/exclude solo players. let me get ONE super sample at diff 4 to 6 and everyone is happy, people wanting a challenge can solo diff 7+ and team players can still play on diff 7+ too and if i want to progress through the upgrades (which as i said before over HALF the ship upgrades require super samples now) i can slowly get them at diff 4 or 5 or 6, and if i ever want to get MORE super samples, i can play with friends, i do enjoy playing diff 8-9 with a 4 man of friends and we are all VC and strategizing. but sadly we cant do that all the time. hope this clears things up
@@soldiert0144 I think if you can do the highs with a team, you've got the general knowledge needed to do 7s. Progressive improvement though slow still works.
My first match was a lvl 9 helldive against bots with friends as a lvl 1 cadet. I died 5 times and quickly learned what cover, how good going prone is, what weak points are, and how good grenades are. It's fun to bully clankers now as a lvl 30 space cadet and put new players through a similar hazing ritual.
But I wanna play helldive solo and have it be a walk in the park so I can be worshipped! I mean why should I be forced to have my guard up every single second of a 40 minute game that I chose on a difficulty that’s literally called FUCKING HELLDIVE that I chose! It’s not fair! 😡 Buff all the guns! Buff all the stratagems! Nerf the spore spewer so it can once again be mindless point and shoot with any weapon free side object so I don’t have to actually use my brain because there’s already too much going on in the difficulty called FUCKING HELLDIVE!! 😡
The game IS broken for solo, balancing wise on the automaton front there is no reason to not take specific stratagem weapons, there is a meta not because a few weapons are too strong, but because the others are too shit now to take them since the addition of gunships some weapons you can take for solo, but you can expect to suffer a lot, such as the HMG On patrols, the spawn rates are definetly broken Alert states for enemies are also broken, soft alert is a state in which enemies get infinite sight range, if there is a single frame where there is a direct line of sight, no matter the distance they will shoot at you, and this bug has been in the game for too dqmn long. I have been doing solo Haz9 since the second warbond was added and i still do it, so i can definetly tell you how the game has changed for the worse
I think you don't get it, because you're an amazing player who can do a lvl 9 solo even after the changes. Most of us are not that way. A lot of people play higher difficulties solo not so for challenge, but for a sense of accomplishment. For the bragging rights, to be able to say that I did lvl 7-8-9 solo. Nonlinear difficulty progression aside (which really should be the main argument against increasing solo difficulty), the changes are taking away that sense of accomplishment from a lot of us. I've been able to do lvl 6 solo and was practicing to be able to go to level 7. Now I'm back to level 5, and I don't feel like I'm progressing at all. So, when you're saying the whole "turn down the difficulty" spiel, and that "there's nothing wrong with it", I think you're being facetious. Like beautiful people saying "beauty doesn't matter," and rich people saying "money doesn't matter".
I think you don't understand. If there's no difficulty, there's no bragging rights. You said it yourself, it's still possible if you're good enough. You have to succeed through effort.
@@JebblesJunior It was difficult enough before, otherwise people would not have bragged about it. Now it just feels like moving the goal post. And for a lot of people who were 'almost there' it feels like a big screw-you in the face, with the end goal yanked from right in front of their face. "You just need to work harder". Again, just because you didn't feel like it was a big deal, doesn't mean it's the same for other people.
@@Observer29830 To you it was difficult. To others it wasn't. In the end it's still very possible to do. That means anyone can do it eventually. It's a matter of effort put in. It's not like the people who can were gifted the ability, they worked for it.
Giftedness plays an important part people like to pretend does not exist. What I'm saying is that you and guys like you are an outlier, not the main demographic. And I wish balance decisions were made with the main demographic in mind, rather than the top 1%. This isn't cybersport.
Ahhh yes. I for one would love for them to make difficultly 9 on a game meant for a team of 4 to be dumbed down just so I can play a proportionally easier version of the game just so I can say I solo helldive. I mean why not? It’s too hard! Silly devs. Why can’t you dummies at arrowhead just see that making a LIVE SERVICE game (meaning a game that you plan on keeping alive and interesting for years to come) stupidly easy 3 months into its life thus making anyone with over 100 hours in the game pretty much beat every mission every single time no issue with op weapons (it’s pve no nerfs only buffs ☝️🤓) is the best decision for my eg- I mean for the game!
You kinda ignoring the fact that Solo Helldive used to be pretty challenging, fair, and fun before the Spawn Rate change. Now you get an Extract Patrol EVERY 12 to 20 seconds that can call in reinforcements every 3 minutes. Imagine dealing with a full Hulk or Charger / Titan Patrol every 12 to 20 seconds SOLO. You are arguing for Group Play while dismissing the people who just want a fair and reasonable challenge on Solo Helldive, for them it's like mastering Dark Souls with a Naked Character. Before the Spawn Change that was a fair and reasonable challenge. Now it's just a shit show with mass Patrol Spawns you can never defeat in 12 to 20 seconds before the next wave appears.
Two things. One, the spawn rates are bugged so hold out for a minute until those are put back into place. Second, I felt like solo helldive didn't bring enough challenge to the table half the time. You could walk by every patrol and if they saw you, it was maybe a 15 second interchange of bullets until they were all gone.
Not even gonna finish, i disagree entirely. Patrol rates need to go down on Challenging, it shouldnt feel like a Hard mission. Too big of a difficulty jump. Love your videos, hoping we can get some more mission debriefing ones again or however you would describe them
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Any bad experience by players is so easily dealt with. Block. Never see em again. Shit Lords are going to be Shit Lords, nothing any fuqn PSN or Steam can do to "prevent" it. It's up to you. Block, block, block. Empower yourself folks.
When your getting swarmed on Penta, it feels like the baby brother of the Creek
I feel like we consider all the other jungles variants of the creek at this point.
Merak gave me those warm and fuzzy flashbacks from the Creek. Gotta open those supply lines again
I never got to fight on the creek but Penta feels like what the creek looked like
Except the gunships are plain annoying and spammed
Love the jungle planets
The only issue I have with patrols is when they glitch and group up in mass and then I run into at least 50-70 bots of all kinds.
It usually only piles up standard grunts for me, then it's a free 30 or so kills at the cost of two grenades.
@@JebblesJuniorI’ve seen devastators in those groups
@@ilovewaffles321same but from what I’ve seen it tends to only be the dev type that the factory striders spawn so at least it’s not the heavy or rocket devs
A great tip that i dont see mentioned enough is to just get outta there, if it gets so spicy that you cant clear everything before the next reinfocement just leave, take care of another objective, base or side obj, and come back by then most enemies are either spread out or dispawned, you can now have another try at it.
This happened to me once and I didn’t actually realize since the were over a hill and a threw an air strike since I thought it was just a patrol but then I got a 47 kill streak out of nowhere lol
Sidenote. I didn't even realize it was 1/6th before. 1/4 is fine. Been sitting about about 7th tier difficulty for me. Still a good challenge, consistent W's, hilarious times, frustrating times, the gambit. Loving it.
Yeah that's actually not so bad, what I thought happened was that they adjusted the spawn rate to be consistent with a full squad no matter how many team mates (or if by yourself)
@@reaperraider999 The thing is, it's not 1/6th or 1/4th. It used to be that solo players faced 2/3rds of the patrols of 4 players sticking together. Now they face the same amount.
The thing is, the game considers players that are close enough to each other as if they were a single player. The scenario where you have that ratio between solo and 4-man is if they all scatter. Which isn't frequent.
I am happy there are so many comments. I hope you made senior proud Jebbles.
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I think the reason people play the hardest difficulty and complain that it's too hard yet refuses to change the difficulty are either too prideful to change said differently or scared that they'll get made fun of for not playing the game at its hardest.
imagine complaining as a solo that the highest level difficulty on a team based game is too hard. cringey
@@Guitarfailtastic2857 Yeah.. aren't you playing solo for a challenge? Atleast try to learn about the game for a bit, I don't think anybody would blame you for atleast trying to cheese the game and get the xp aswell. Ofcourse there's going to be luck involved with the game. Some people just can't see the bigger picture, I guess.
also super samples
I think youre forgetting that it's not unreasonable to just want a bit of breathing room occasionally. Even as a solo.
Or the secret third option most people don't like to mention: The game isn't well balanced at the moment and there are still tons of bullshit going on.
I don't want to always win, I just want to have fun while trying to win. Yet the person in charge of the balance changes seems to hate solo players and not understand how fun works. Specially given their past history with game development. (spoiler: it's terrible)
I think the patch notes should have been a lot clearer on that change because as written it looks like they were just trying to punish solo play.
Indeed “made patrol spawn rates in solo play proportional to those for teams” or something along those lines would have made thing clearer than the “increased solo spawn rates” we got. If you were under the impression they were already proportional, the latter might give the wrong impression.
Then again I feel a lot of these are just knee jerk reactions based on theory crafting without trying it out what a change actually does.
brother is lost in the red head sauxe
Absolutely disoriented.
The problem is, on lower levels you dont get to see or fight the big guys, tanks, hulks, BT's etc and you cant get the samples you need...theres no other way to experience all the enemy types, or earn the rare/super samples unless you play on 7+ and not everyone has somebody online to play with daily so there needs to be some other way to earn the samples we need or they need to fix the game so that closing bugholes, takin down outposts and fabricators, and completing OBJ's weakens the enemies numbers so we have a fair chance at extracting without having to catch the emergency pelican after the timer runs out. They dont have to make 7+ easier, but it needs to be adjusted based on the number of Divers in the mission. Since the "patch" I cant extract a lvl 7 solo anymore. The more you do in a mission, the more aggressive and numerous the enemies become. More patrols, more heavies, etc. Call for extraction and you're done cause it sends 4 or 5 mobs of hell at one Diver -lol
Playin with randoms these days is a shitshow with most of them not having a mic or if they do, they are in party chat or on discord, and the rest with mics are little mouthy punk squeakers with their mom in the background hollerin about cleaning their room or some shit. With no communication, u get clusterbombed, cant tell guys they are spread out too much and causing more patrols and spawns or that they have a swarm flanking...it just sucks...to be quite honest, playin solo is just as much fun or maybe more fun as playin with a full squad and they really need to adjust the game so those of us that aren't sweaty streamer no-lifers with no job or family that play games 12 or 14 hours a day can get our samples and enjoy ALL of the game instead of the big enemies and ship upgrades bn locked behind a difficulty that requires people to play with.
I do think removing outposts should result in an overall lessened rate of patrols. Oh, and those samples are a reward for more difficult gameplay, difficult gameplay consists of fighting bigger and more targets.
I just wanna get good enough to be not a detriment to others on level 7. Then I will know I can slowly but surely unlock everything.
Level 7 is a perfect difficulty balance once you figure it out. I have done a lot of practice on lower levels. I would not do 7s without at least one or two others.
As an old timey gamer, I would speculate the change in videogames from limited lives to unlimited tries is partly to blame.
From Mario to Sonic, Earthworm Jim to Vectorman, we always had a limited number of lives/continues. Then somewhere in the late 90s (Legacy of Kain Soul Reaver I think?) the idea of never actually losing a game came about. The kids that only knew that growing up have a more difficult time accepting a limited number of reinforcements.
I dunno, maybe I'm way off. Just my two cents.
I think this may have something to do with it.
Fair, but there are numerous modern games that carried the concept of finite lives into the modern day.
- In Call of Duty Zombies, dying ends the game, and playing again means restarting from round 1.
- In Left 4 Dead and Payday 2, you can only be incapacitated a finite number of times before the next one sends you straight into death. However, this count can be reset if you use each game's premier but finite healing item.
- In Counter Strike, you only get one life per round. Dying means you're spectating your teammates until the end of the round.
- Many first person shooters have a popular gamemode where there's only one life per round.
- Minecraft has an optional "hardcore" mode where you have one life, and if you die, you don't get to respawn.
- Many Battle Royale games used to only allow you to live once per match, and have moved to a live system.
All this being said, there's a lot of games where you get to try the same challenge again and again. Helldivers 2 is sort of unique because if you fail a mission, you never get to try it again because each mission is procedurally generated, and thus each mission is completely different, so you can't play the same old one again.
So, some folks did a test (takibo and some others) which suggests that Arrowhead broke yet another feature trying to fix it. All group sizes seem to be dealing with full spawns; this means that by extract you’re dealing with a max of 1 patrol every 10 seconds; more likely, a patrol every 12-16 seconds. People are pulling solo helldives off, sure, but as a casual and chronic noob, I certainly noticed the change. For me, Terminids are just not possible to solo over difficulty 4, and I’m just scraping by on challenging automatons. Call me crazy, but I think 100% spawns is asking a bit much of the *average* small group or solo player. Again, this isn’t confirmed, but if true, is pretty shitty and could blow up in arrowhead’s face again.
So currently I'm considering them to be bugged. There's no reason they would intentionally state a 1/4 increase then purposely turn it into a 4/4. Fumbling a 1/4 into a 4/4 however, they absolutely would. So, I'm now holding out all opinions on the matter until they fix it.
Got a buddy who always sounds so surprised when he gets killed.
He changed his armour from the fortified passive to engineering kit, and gets killed by bots a lot more than before.
Still, constantly... I hear him going "WHAT‽”
Love me some redheads and I've loved me some redheads.
And people... You did know you need not engage with every patrol you encounter, right?
Know when to avoid and when to spawn a bot drop or a bug breach.
Couldn’t have said it any better
often for not you cant avoid bug breaches like you can bots. Though the new aggro buff they got is quite bothersome. It would be really cool if they added silenced weapons would it not? Silenced weapons aren't fully silent. So in a set distance they couldn't be used. And if the goal is to pick off from a far I feel like divers should be allowed better usage of the map's terrain. Sometimes, these high surfaces feel like they're just there. Maybe that is just me lol.
While I agree with the video, I found myself thinking on the statement "one fourth of a four-person squad can handle one fourth of the enemy spawns of a four person squad".
That is not entirely true. More squaddies are a force multiplier. More eyes to scope incoming, more diversity in loadout, more flexible respawn than the mandatory auto-drop, etc...
This is not to deny that (as mainly a solo player at mid difficulty at most) the change in itself did little to harm my experience, but more a statement on why direct math isn't always the best way to approach these topics. If I was presented this question with no context, I would fundamentally disagree with the decision of Arrowhead - but knowing what I know, I'd say that a squad can handle more than the 100% used as a base from which a solo player receives 25%.
A nitpick, to be sure, but wanted to get my thoughts out in case they might help someone reason through their objection to the change.
UA-cam jacked up the sending of my first response so in short it was this. Playing solo also has its advantages like stealth and better hit and run gameplay.
eventually they'll need to add missions with genuine difficulty and not difficulty padding as they have so far. It is partially why solo is make it or break it for many people. The objectives aren't hard, its often for not the game's balancing that matters over the objective. If the game had or will get far harder actual objectives solo players can look at something that doesn't account for game balance. Thats all solo play talk really is about, how the game is balanced over how hard the game really is. Two incongruent things that line up to make difficulty as a whole.
I love your videos so much man 😂 you're super casual with your humor and it cracks me up everytime I watch one
Bro I always appreciate your takes
I believe this one may not be all that popular. Then again people will probably watch two seconds comment and leave.
Play to win. We're all in it together. Quit bitching and KEEP WINNING
I always love your videos and hearing your perspectives on things. And your words about playing on lower difficulties means a lot to me. Due to way too many factors, I almost have to play solo, and I've been slowly getting up to levels 5 and 6 by myself. It feels nice being reassured that there's nothing wrong with the lower levels
There isn’t mfs just too damn prideful and knock anyone who doesn’t solo helldive. Funny thing is most of the people who do this aren’t even ready for helldive themselves
Great video. Practice practice practice. When you can comfortably get pass one difficulty and it starts to get mewh, turn up the heat. Then you’ll start feeling the challenge. Maybe for some I’d like to think.
Had the best reminder today to be chill and not rage out. I died while working on an egg hatchery mission across the map from my team. They reinforced me across the map, not their fault for not knowing that I was working on one of the objectives. I got very upset and just got very immature about it. My normally muted mic was not muted unbeknownst to me. When I realized my whole team heard me piss and moan like a child, the embarrassment was immeasurable. At the end of the game, I apologized to my squad. Graciously, the other squad mate that had his mic on super cool and said it happens to the best of us. Note to self: calm down, it’s just a game. And might as well keep that mic on and use it constructively instead of being muted so I can get angry and talk to myself
I love playing with randoms. You don’t even need real life friends to enjoy the game. Solo try hards who complain about the new patrol changes need to realize that this is a CO-OP shooter.
I do wonder if they just don't want people soloing - I do both and sometimes just like the challenge of solo.
But on a simple level 3 just now (getting some credits) it wasn't difficult but it was tedious due to the constant stream of incoming patrols, and this is with clearing the nests before the main objectives.
A challenge is fine and a lot of solo players do it for that and to test builds out.
I can understand the devs wanting to make the higher levels harder for solo players, but there's that fine line between challenging and just annoying, when it's becoming a chore on the lower to mid range difficulties due to constant chained patrols.
My point is, having hectic and calmer moments are good, the contrast so to speak, but it seems several updates are slowly moving away from that towards some forced way of bumping up the difficulty with the patrols.
Still love the game, just slightly concerned in their approach to the difficulty tuning at times for solo/smaller groups.
I think bugs in general are not the most fun to play due to their organization and weird resistances. I get that bile titans are supposed to be strong and that's ok. But it doesn't make sense that they can slow you by barfing within a square mile of you while also being faster than you.
This didn't age well as there has been tests and found that they coded the patrol timer to the exact same spawn rate as a 4 man squad... so instead of being set to "1/4th" like they intended, they made it "4x" lol
This is a bug, not an intentional effect. In any case it's still possible to finish them. Then again, I've felt solo helldive wasn't enough of a punch in the mouth for a while.
@@JebblesJunior I agree that it's easier than it should be and hopefully they fix the bug quickly. 4x spawn rate is pretty wild rn lol
I’m crazy sir. I feel like you’re calling me out without calling me out 😂
I hope you at the least feel constructively called out. If there ever were such a thing.
I like the variability of difficulty, agree with your takes on solo play on helldive. This game has a wide range of difficulties and thats good. Don't quite understand why some people are so nutty about it. My friends and I tend to play on 7 because its challenging but not mad. We occasionally do 8 and 9 but because of the intensity we generally don't do it all the time. But what is great is there are so many difficulties for precisely that, you find what suits you. 1/6 - 1/4 seems reasonable change, surely people understand you have to practice and get better to be able to helldive solo in the first place
I still think the enemy spawning is somehow bugged.
I´ve been playing with a friend on Level 4 and we´ve been obliterated with lots of chargers, continously spawning new ones out of thin air right next to us.
Always right after we managed to kill one or two of them, multiple replacements would spawn, without any source for it like bug holes in the area.
It´s been way too excessive to be normal on that level...
What could be happening is you're passing by POIs and they're dormant under the ground near those until activated in the proximity of someone. I'm mostly the bot guy, but I'll be doing more bugs soon in order to sort more out there as well.
"its entirely possible"
Just as a side note, if you make a Discord account, MAKE SURE you opt out of their mandatory arbitration policy. You have 30 days to do so after making a new account. If you have a current one, the deadline is May 15th.
Even if the numbers were correct and it was 1/4, solo vs duo, trio and 4 players is not linear. Even having 1 extra person watching your back is huge. It’s a synchronous vs asynchronous issue. Just like doing a task with 2 people vs 1 is not simply twice as fast.
Having said that, the best players in the world who solo who can kill bots faster than anyone are getting non stop drop calls faster than they can eliminate. Something is off. The drops are happening more frequently than a 4 man.
I’ve noticed this on difficulties as low as challenging solo where a bot drop happens twice straight up ignoring the supposed 1 minute cool down for drops that’s supposed to get.
This is not a skill issue. I had no issues other than I what I observed.
Now perhaps we had the opposite problem before where when it was supposedly 1/6 bot drops were not happening frequently enough.
This isn’t really how many patrols problem as much as a bots / breaches are happening faster than they should be. Seemingly faster than 4 man. Or at least the same. If patrols are 1/4 the drop/breach CD needs to be longer for fewer players.
Playing dozens of hours in helldive has not yielded these results for me whatsoever. In any case you stated bot drops as an issue. That is not a patrol problem.
@@JebblesJunior In the thick of it, it's really hard to determine what the problem is. From a player perspective it just feels more than a 1/6 -> 1/4 increase. Even if it is a drop/breach problem. I don't usually play Hell Dive solo, I play with a 4 man. But watching some people play solo live, it seems to be a whole lot more than what I get. But personally I've experienced it at the lower difficulties where I would quickly finish off enemies only for a drop ship to appear out of nowhere, never ending whereas before it didn't used to be this way. I forget the actual numbers, but a bot drop is only supposed to happen every minute or so, but it is happening for me faster than that. And localized confusion seems to be doing nothing to increase that cool down.
Wouldn't be so bad if patrols were actually spawning at 1/4 for solos and not at 4/4 for solos but go off
The listening comprehension is strong with this one.
@JebblesJunior yeah insult your audience. What a great way to build your channel. Testers on reddit have worked out there is no difference to patrol spawns if you are solo or in a full squad
"but go off"
You were kinda asking for it lol
I cant speak for anything higher than level 6 solo. I just can't handle lol. And this is before the spawn rate up!
Thanks for the refeshing take. This game is the most fun ive had in ages.
Thank you! Helldive is THE hard difficulty, yet people want it to have only a moderate challenge where they're never overwhelmed or losing. OhDough in particular has been frustrating me with this kinda talk because he's a rather large creator that could influence the game. But Helldive is where it should be for solo. If anything, it doesn't need to be easier for solo, but rather harder in team-play. People don't want to lose, but losing makes winning better. That's why one would take on a real challenge. Whenever I'm up for that, I play Helldive. Normally though, I sit more comfortable at Suicide difficulty.
However, I will say that the gap between Extreme and Suicideseems a bit to great and inconsistent. I feel Suicide is still a bit too hard for me on my off days, so I try Extreme. But due to the way patrols seem to path from the outside to your last known location, I've had Suicide missions where they all met me at once near mid-map and overwhelmed me but Extreme level missions where I barely had any fights. I did an evacuation on Extreme once where NO ENEMIES showed up at all! In the endgame, players have to be able to reach at least Suicide for super samples, but I'm sure some never will. Maybe that's intentional, and the upgrades are only meant for those who can.
There is no way they didn't screw up their calculations. I don't believe their "It went from 1/6 to 1/4". The day of the patch I went into some low levels to try out some of the weapon changes and there wasn't a single point where there were less than three groups of enemies walking directly at me.
You can go into a 9 and pair up then split off to complete separate objectives and then do a duo on 6 and you're constantly swarmed.
This simply does not feel like the case. However, it brings up a good idea, I'd like to see some sort of training range in this game someday so we can really understand our weapons better.
@@JebblesJunior I would love the ability to fly to mars and drop to a spot where we can use any weapon and spawn any enemy. Endless testing on whatever we need practice poking weak points on.
Lots of UA-camrs are unironically making the community worse by making mountains out of molehills and overplaying nothing burger issues.
I ignore a lot of Helldivers 2 channels. Akarmist clickbait title? Ignored. AI generated thumbnail? Ignored. (If you cant find the creativity for a good thumbnail, im assuming the content of your video is no better)
@@Svoorhout85 I get my info on the updates straight from the patch notes + playing the game. Only Helldivers related stuff on UA-cam worth my time is people genuinely adding input to the way we play to make it more engaging and fun, and memes bc memes are the DNA of the soul.
Have the Terminids gotten harder, or is it because i was fighting Automatons for a while?
I feel after fighting bots they get easier to be honest.
I can't verify this for myself as I'm still working through the difficulty levels with a buddy, but just watched a video where it the 1/4 spawn rate for solo play is only correct assuming the full group is completely split up. Apparently you get the same spawn rate as a full group that operates in proximity of each other. They seem to have extensively tested that. I almost exclusively play duos and we're just having fun improving, so I don't know.
There's currently a bug that's maintaining the same spawn rate across all player counts it seems. As of right now I'm not really factoring much takes on it being "terrible" into my assessment. I'm just waiting to see what it's like when it's fixed then figuring it out.
I have a friend that has a retort for every single piece of advice you gave here. I think some people that are being so damn negative about this game are just depressed, which makes them pessimistic and impossible to please. It's a sad reality but you won't convince these people that any change is good, and you can't convince them to adapt and overcome. Because the biggest hurdle they have to overcome has nothing to do with the game.
Personally, my main issue is that the upped patrol rates for solo players seems to translate to having to deal with more breaches/drops on the escort and "kill x number of enemies" missions, which can feel extremely punishing. I can handle most mission types solo on 7, but found that even with a teammate I was getting steamrolled on any of the defense missions, which can feel like a frustrating lurch in difficulty.
I think defense missions in general need some sort of tweaking because if it's not the numbers it's them dropping tanks on top of buildings.
I crank up my difficulty because I want super samples, but if I had my way I'd stay at 5.
The only thing I do think that they should change about solo play, or rather in general? The pop ins. It does feel like a kick in the balls to completely evade a patrol and only have an entire group behind you like looney tunes.
I do wish more enemies had sound cues too.
Im in the Army. There is no fuckin way a tank is gonna quietly creep up on you lmao
Hey, I just think the railgun nerfs were just a bit much, GIVEN the performance was being caused by the PS5 Hosting Bug
The pop ins are remarkably annoying, but I can't imagine those are intentional.
I remember there was a time when some host who was level 50 or so was killing his teammates as I was joining in, and the moment I joined in and called down a spear he killed me as well
He reinforced one of us on top of a minefield and the moment he died, the guy who was alive and didn't reinforce the host immediately got kicked from the session
Wacky experience
I write down names whenever I catch someone doing that. Eventually I'll publish the list.
Or Redheads XD
As someone who sucks still at level 20 I think that the rates were good before. I can now not finish missions solo on challenging difficulty which makes it hard to get the samples! This game should be catered to meee!
Started playing today, nice to have started watching some videos, but I feel like yours are going to be nice and helpful since so far i've only played solo, 3 bug missions, 3 automaton missions. I am very much a child in this game.
Went to automaton after 4 bug drops, intro to 1 - 3 difficulty
Died on first level 3 attempt cause i looked around too much and got way too held uo by the number of bugs on the first level 3 mission I had done, and died while being aware of having no strategems, gunning down the objective and running. Got held down by a hunter and slapped to death by hive guards as the last minute extraction clock was running down at around 20 seconds. Peobably could have made it though if i hadn't gotten hit.
Did run it back, did win
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Gonna probably post the "second half" on the Automaton beginners guide cause. I been doing gods work fighting robots with NUTHIN
So currently, the spawn rates are bugged. So if things feel overwhelming that's why. If you can do well right now you'll notice once the bug is fixed it gets way easier.
The only content creator to actually say the obvious. If helldive is to hard for you go down to the next difficulty and if that's to hard for you go down to the next level and so on until you get gud lol. I remember when sekiro and souls came out and the public out cry to nerf the entire game just baffled me
When soloing, I always do a warmup on Easy or Challenging. Depends on if I want to do one or two missions for the Op. Contributes to the planet a bit. Then, I leap face first into the shit. My take is that gunships are the only thing that can completely ruin a solo match if you mishandle it. Maybe Shriekers, too, but I haven't been in those shoes.
Thankfully your vid on taking down gunships revealed to me the infinite power of the AMR. I already loved it, but always brought recoilless/quasar/spear on higher difficulty Bot missions in case of gunships. Now I'm firmly rooted in ShieldPack/AMR and my solo missions are going way better.
That said, I play tons of co-op too
AMR should be better now seeing as they've fixed the scopes misalignment as well.
@@JebblesJunior It's hulk slayin' time
It's the microtransaction buyers who usually buy the best meta are the ones complaining about difficulty instead of actually playing and learning the game
I’m fine with the new patrol rates, but they really needed to fix the matchmaking issues before making the change. I can handle difficulty 7-8 as long as I’m in a squad of 3 or 4. But when people leave between missions and the slots never refill, it becomes frustrating. So now I have to restart my game anytime people leave after a mission just so I can get a full squad again, which is a less than ideal experience.
I think leaving mid match voluntarily enough times in a day or so should garner some sort of penalty.
Wait, you mean you can... JUST NOT ENGAGE?! Pay attention. Perform sneaky.
did you play solo before and after the patch ? (genuinely)
because it is now absurdly difficult in solo, but super simple in a group or 4, in the exact same difficulty
Yes.
I pointed this out to a YTer a while back and they basically said I can’t have an opinion because I must be a casual due to a video on my channel (diff 7 extract that got spicy, I wanted to share). It was a truly bizarre experience. I unsubbed to a lot of solo divers around that change, most of them were so salty
It ridiculous for them to say someone has an invalid opinion. They're entirely based on one's own perspective.
Good points, you do a good job at going about the video. But as a solo player I would like to say that the frequency IS the issue.
Arguably the amount before was too much: Ammo is kind of the key factor here.
Some guns (most) cant take on large hoards anymore. The nerfs they do are quite bothersome. And sometimes strategems are lets say a temperamental system. Solo players often struggle because too much spawns right after a fire fight and the game doesn't have much relief to this. That in itself is a problem to solo play. As we see, many updates cater to solo players to pad difficulty in often for not negative changes in reception. Few AI changes have been praised.
Worse off, is weapon changes. AI scales to the highest difficulty and more so to large parties. Weapons, barely preform at all.
The two don't combine to a fun experience. And yes, you could go to lower difficulty. That is true. But not everyone wants to play at the same level forever, the game doesn't justify diversity in kit usage **enough** at high level. The frequency issue is its own thing, it would be fine if our tools weren't this stupidly limited. Unkind as that sounds, it is true. For solo players, these weapon nerfs make no sense at times.
There's plenty of both weapons and stratagems for hoard clearing. Bugs are practically made of paper until you get to chargers. Even they can be taken out with a singular EAT, railcannon, railgun, autocannon to the rear etc. I will say bile titans pose a unique annoyance in that they move faster than you, slow you down, have a jacked-up hitbox and won't bleed out, but that's a bile titan issue.
As for bots, find cover and aim for the enemy's weak spot. They move at a snail's pace and it's not difficult to clear should you have the ability. A laser cannon, autocannon, or AMR can take out all front facing enemies.
Different weapon combinations can be used, take stalwart, stuns, and a scorcher for example.
The point of high difficulty is to be difficult, and it's very possible if you put in the effort to improve.
@@JebblesJunior bile titans have to be the weirdest case of the fact they don't like dying. Ive seen them tank two 500kgs, ive seen them tank more than one RCS before even. Chargers it certainly depends for the 500kg. I've met a charger who tanked a 500kg and was a very large pain in my side because a hoard spawned AGAIN and decided to spawn not one, but two chargers. Ahaha.. Six chargers back to back is never a fun way to go with a bug match.
However-, you do prove my point. The fact very very few select weapons can engage a situation (Primary and stratagem.) is the problem. Variety as we have it, does not relate to viability. Weapons should be viable, and variable. Many stratagems CANNOT make up for that like the RCS, 500kg or air strike. It applies to the entire game, exception of armor.
I'm sure we'll get some new armor passives one update, right-? weapons surely wont be the only thing being added haha.
With that being said! Its great to see how you talk to us and I like that I get to discuss with someone who is so experienced in the game.
...I'mma be frank like Oscar Mayer, I thought it didn't change the patrols AT ALL when you did it Solo. Not that I went Solo much anyways; hard to open them bunkers by yourself.
This community, like other games I play, have a hair-trigger when it comes to changes (like someone who complained in the Offical Discord about the three nerfs to the twenty-seven buffs; truly a Hell of all scapes). I swear they're just WAITIN' for something to pitch a bitchfit over, and if they can't find something they'll make it.
As one of the people who was angry at how it was written until I played it can confirm its not really that bad. I solo helldive often and I dont notice much difference, just more kills. Still fun as hell.
Patrol rates for solo play is a bit too much sometimes. Facing terminids gets pretty annoying, feeling like endless patrols come my way if i dont sneak around the whole game.
I will say bugs are far more annoying than bots alone.
Jebbles ia a PC bro who uses voice. Me, a PS5 mute: (designates target)
Level-headed take, my friend. While I do have issues with the way weapons and strategems are balanced (unique perspective, I know), I think people are just getting mad at any change that increases difficulty now, regardless of whether it’s a good one. I think people would’ve been much more receptive to this if they didn’t feel like every piece of equipment is slowly degrading into a pea-shooter. I want the higher difficulties to test me, but I do agree with the perspective that the attempt by arrowhead to prevent a meta is failing on its own terms, and creating a fallout in the form of all equipment feeling less fun. More enemies on max difficulty, though? Sure! Just please keep stealth even the tiniest bit viable and I’m down for that.
Tbh though, I don’t care about that stuff nearly as much as all of the glaring technical issues. For a game I enjoy largely for the immersion factor, man does that immersion get shattered pretty frequently 🤕
I appreciate your answers to the outrage but I don’t know whether you have to do it.
Patrol Rates make sense sure..
Patrols spawning out of thin air and invalidating radar pings DOESN'T..
I can see both sides. Helldivers have a nonlinear effect on the enemies which means the difficulty should also have a nonlinear effect on the Helldivers.
I see nothing wrong with that argument, but I see nothing wrong with a developer encouraging team play.
DRG did it and nobody did a doubletake at coffeestain. I don’t know the technicalities of spawn rates or enemy caps in DRG difficulties, but it’s more fun with other people regardless.
The current problem seems to be a bugged spawn rate now. I expect it to be resolved by the next meaningful patch.
I thought we we're gonna talk about chilli sauce, imagine complaining that your food is too spicy wheb you asked for it. Anyway, redheads.
Here's to redheads.
Lighthouse channel.
For democracy and algorithm.
I like the patrol changes for the most part. I play diff 7 solo most of the time and drop to 4-6 if I want to relax. The patrol spawns increasing before major objective completion are somewhat noticeable, but it feels reasonable. I'm also no longer getting empty extracts after the increase to patrols. These changes are good and make sense to me.
The part that I don't like is how much spawns increase after main objective completion. Even on diff 4, I feel like it's not worth it to stick around and grab POIs/side objectives because 2/3 patrols will be headed towards you almost all the time. (Have almost never seen Hulks patrolling on diff 4 until this update, now I'll see them pretty much every time after main obj completion if I decide to stick around). It feels like a very obscured difficulty mechanic. I wish they would just plainly spell it out.
I'm still able to do diff 7, but I have to make sure that I get everything I want done on the map completed before I head for the main objective. If I try to do anything after the main objective, it feels like there are constantly 3 patrols headed my way while I take 50 years to load SEAF artillery shells.
I think the spawn changes are good for the most part, leave the current rates as they are for pre-mission completion and during extract, and then slightly tone down patrols when you're just roaming the map after the main objective is complete and they would be perfect imho.
also love your content btw, nice and chill
I'm not gonna lie I've never been fond of the post main completion spawn increase.
Trying to extract on diff 4. I haven't touched the terminal. Patrols waddled into evac site one after the other. Since there's a limit. Your stuck with the entire limit. Yet, it spawns a new one in after killing one patrol. I was fighting ten minutes until the emergency shuttle came in. That was a slug to get through.
Comment cause I love red head and Democracy too! Good video!
No. Wrong. It is not 1/4 effectively. Watch Luch’s videos on this. What they did was change the spawn interval to 2:45 nominally for all squad sizes when before it was 4:05 for solo on diff 4. Now, if you have a team of four and they each split up to being more than 75 m away from each other, they will get a patrol spawn each every 2:45 interval. But if they’re all together, they will only get one spawn. So unless you’re getting a squad that is hardcore lone wolfing the entire mission, the amount of enemies per diver is now higher the smaller your squad is. This is not the 1/6 to 1/4 change that the patch notes conveyed. The spawn rate is now 100% for each individual diver.
"The intention is that 1 player has 1/4th of the patrols compared to 4 players" Are the exact words of the Devs so I can't see this as anything other than a bug or coding error with the numbers. The rates don't make sense right now because they aren't supposed to be that way.
So... What's with the red heads? 🤔🤔🤔
The less you know, the better.
4:56 me too man me too
It doesn’t matter how nice they are, I would rather quit than have an online conversation.
If I hear a mic, it’s straight back to my ship. I have a mic, but I never use it. I don’t want to hear anything you have to say and I respectfully assume you feel the same about me.
You do know you can disable voice chat, right? This is the first, and hopefully last instance I'll say this, don't join others if you're going to pull that.
Am I crazy or has solo gotten easier?
It's definitely gotten more entertaining.
I think the spawn rates might be bugged after the patch, this video goes over that the patrol rates aren't actually changing regardless of player count. Even when running trivial, I've felt something was a bit off, but I've never played enough to really quantify if I was just over thinking.
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We can assume they're bugged if that is true, in which case I've got a different point. If this is the case, then the problem isn't the change of rates, it's the bug with rates. I find helldive still quite manageable alone, but knowing it's going to be easier once this is resolved is interesting.
@JebblesJunior While I am for things being a challenge (this coming from a person who willing used the Lib Pen pre full auto buff lol), the current spawn rates can get a bit daunting, especially for newer people.
2:40 "most people having played more than a day or so are not frantically struggling at level 1. that means there is always a level to fall back to if you cant handle the higher ones"
thats only true if you DONT want to progress through the game solo. as someone who does not like playing high diff with randoms and whos friends are usually (like myself) caught up with IRL matters, i cant progress because in order to do so i need super samples and they are ONLY at diff 7 and higher which are not that much harder to solo. and because of said IRL matters, i cant commit the time required to "get gud" enough to consistently solo diff 7+
if they want to make this change, they should have super samples spawn at diff 4+ BUT only have ONE per mission spawn at diff 4-5-6 and then 3 for diff 7 and so on. that way you cant just easy grind super samples at the lower diffs because you only get one per mission (and even at the lower diffs the super sample mound thing still spawns it just doesnt have anything to collect)
if i want to solo grind HD2 then i should be able to do so as me solo playing this game does NOT negatively affect ANYONE else. the game CAN pander to solo players without taking away anything from team players, let me get a single super sample at lower diffs and let me slowly grind out ship upgrades.
i dont mind the spawn change, there ARE 9 diffs for a reason, but when you lock over HALF of the ship upgrades behind super samples which ONLY spawn at the top 3 diffs THATS when i start having a problem
I'm not sure you meant to say 7+ was "Not that much harder to do" because it seems your whole point was to the contrary. You should be able to solo grind, and you can, but there's a degree of improvement needed to get to the higher levels.
@@JebblesJunior yea i miss typed that what i meant was " i cant progress because in order to do so i need super samples and they are ONLY at diff 7 and higher which are NOW that much harder to solo" referring to the new patrol spawn rates for solo. my bad
as for the "degree of improvement needed" part of your reply. again i refer to the comment i made of having IRL stuff, game is super fun, but i dont have time to "get good" enough to solo higher diff, and yes i am aware that the point of the game is co-op and the whole game is co-op focused, but that doesnt mean the game has to punish/exclude solo players. let me get ONE super sample at diff 4 to 6 and everyone is happy, people wanting a challenge can solo diff 7+ and team players can still play on diff 7+ too and if i want to progress through the upgrades (which as i said before over HALF the ship upgrades require super samples now) i can slowly get them at diff 4 or 5 or 6, and if i ever want to get MORE super samples, i can play with friends, i do enjoy playing diff 8-9 with a 4 man of friends and we are all VC and strategizing. but sadly we cant do that all the time.
hope this clears things up
@@soldiert0144 I think if you can do the highs with a team, you've got the general knowledge needed to do 7s. Progressive improvement though slow still works.
Let me do something that the devs obviously want the community to do, I'll help you. That's what helldiving is about.
its funny that people complain about changes making the game harder when i find helldive is getting too easy :(
Easy with the common sense. You're going to offend the majority who don't have any. 😆
I fear it's too late for that warning.
In the immortal words of Deebo:
“Stop bein’ a b*tch and come on!”
...wait you have hair
I may have one or two of them somewhere.
nah
My first match was a lvl 9 helldive against bots with friends as a lvl 1 cadet. I died 5 times and quickly learned what cover, how good going prone is, what weak points are, and how good grenades are. It's fun to bully clankers now as a lvl 30 space cadet and put new players through a similar hazing ritual.
no they don't..
Also where’s that Optimus prime speech we democratically asked for
I've currently got my hands a bit full with the informative portion of content for the time being.
@@JebblesJunior aw ok
But I wanna play helldive solo and have it be a walk in the park so I can be worshipped! I mean why should I be forced to have my guard up every single second of a 40 minute game that I chose on a difficulty that’s literally called FUCKING HELLDIVE that I chose! It’s not fair! 😡
Buff all the guns! Buff all the stratagems! Nerf the spore spewer so it can once again be mindless point and shoot with any weapon free side object so I don’t have to actually use my brain because there’s already too much going on in the difficulty called FUCKING HELLDIVE!! 😡
The game IS broken for solo, balancing wise on the automaton front there is no reason to not take specific stratagem weapons, there is a meta not because a few weapons are too strong, but because the others are too shit now to take them since the addition of gunships some weapons you can take for solo, but you can expect to suffer a lot, such as the HMG
On patrols, the spawn rates are definetly broken
Alert states for enemies are also broken, soft alert is a state in which enemies get infinite sight range, if there is a single frame where there is a direct line of sight, no matter the distance they will shoot at you, and this bug has been in the game for too dqmn long.
I have been doing solo Haz9 since the second warbond was added and i still do it, so i can definetly tell you how the game has changed for the worse
I think you don't get it, because you're an amazing player who can do a lvl 9 solo even after the changes. Most of us are not that way. A lot of people play higher difficulties solo not so for challenge, but for a sense of accomplishment. For the bragging rights, to be able to say that I did lvl 7-8-9 solo. Nonlinear difficulty progression aside (which really should be the main argument against increasing solo difficulty), the changes are taking away that sense of accomplishment from a lot of us. I've been able to do lvl 6 solo and was practicing to be able to go to level 7. Now I'm back to level 5, and I don't feel like I'm progressing at all. So, when you're saying the whole "turn down the difficulty" spiel, and that "there's nothing wrong with it", I think you're being facetious. Like beautiful people saying "beauty doesn't matter," and rich people saying "money doesn't matter".
I think you don't understand. If there's no difficulty, there's no bragging rights. You said it yourself, it's still possible if you're good enough. You have to succeed through effort.
@@JebblesJunior It was difficult enough before, otherwise people would not have bragged about it. Now it just feels like moving the goal post. And for a lot of people who were 'almost there' it feels like a big screw-you in the face, with the end goal yanked from right in front of their face. "You just need to work harder". Again, just because you didn't feel like it was a big deal, doesn't mean it's the same for other people.
@@Observer29830 To you it was difficult. To others it wasn't. In the end it's still very possible to do. That means anyone can do it eventually. It's a matter of effort put in. It's not like the people who can were gifted the ability, they worked for it.
Giftedness plays an important part people like to pretend does not exist. What I'm saying is that you and guys like you are an outlier, not the main demographic. And I wish balance decisions were made with the main demographic in mind, rather than the top 1%. This isn't cybersport.
The numbers might make sense, but the game feels worse.
Ahhh yes. I for one would love for them to make difficultly 9 on a game meant for a team of 4 to be dumbed down just so I can play a proportionally easier version of the game just so I can say I solo helldive. I mean why not? It’s too hard!
Silly devs. Why can’t you dummies at arrowhead just see that making a LIVE SERVICE game (meaning a game that you plan on keeping alive and interesting for years to come) stupidly easy 3 months into its life thus making anyone with over 100 hours in the game pretty much beat every mission every single time no issue with op weapons (it’s pve no nerfs only buffs ☝️🤓) is the best decision for my eg- I mean for the game!
You kinda ignoring the fact that Solo Helldive used to be pretty challenging, fair, and fun before the Spawn Rate change. Now you get an Extract Patrol EVERY 12 to 20 seconds that can call in reinforcements every 3 minutes. Imagine dealing with a full Hulk or Charger / Titan Patrol every 12 to 20 seconds SOLO. You are arguing for Group Play while dismissing the people who just want a fair and reasonable challenge on Solo Helldive, for them it's like mastering Dark Souls with a Naked Character. Before the Spawn Change that was a fair and reasonable challenge. Now it's just a shit show with mass Patrol Spawns you can never defeat in 12 to 20 seconds before the next wave appears.
Two things. One, the spawn rates are bugged so hold out for a minute until those are put back into place. Second, I felt like solo helldive didn't bring enough challenge to the table half the time. You could walk by every patrol and if they saw you, it was maybe a 15 second interchange of bullets until they were all gone.
If you can't solo a full mission set don't play that level. Get gud or sideline complaints.
To many people are simply to proud to admit defeat and drop the difficulty. That is their problem.
Not even gonna finish, i disagree entirely. Patrol rates need to go down on Challenging, it shouldnt feel like a Hard mission. Too big of a difficulty jump.
Love your videos, hoping we can get some more mission debriefing ones again or however you would describe them