10:10 - With the NEMA 14-50 I was getting 208 Volts. This means that the campground was distributing 3-phase power to the campsites... so this is normal.
Power line worker here, that NEMA 14-50 should be 2 hot legs of 120v at 50 amps each. That site is not giving you 3 phase 208v, if it was, it would be a single leg of 208v energizing both hot legs of that 14-50 outlet. Which would supply an RV that plugs into it with straight 208v. What’s actually happening at that 14-50 outlet is, the 2 legs of 120v (which would give you 240v) you should be getting are so loaded down or the wiring is undersized, that the amperage you are drawing is dropping the voltage to what would basically be 104v per leg. That campground’s electrical system is in poor shape, I could see it being that low in the summer when a bunch of RV’s are running numerous AC’s, and still the minimum is 110v per leg which you’re 6v shy of. I’d avoid that campground until they did some upgrades to their electrical system.
I really love the amount of details you put in these videos, you are really making a good job there. Love your content and i plan on watching it more :)
Greetings from Canada! Cant wait for my Model Y to arrive. Thank you for making this video with such great details of the charging chart. Really enjoyed it!!
Wow, greetings from Australia. Thanks for taking us along for the ride and explaining the numbers!, I’m going to watch it again and try and understand the details. Cheers, john
I never stayed at campsites in my 3, but I slept in in in just parking lots driving from Maryland to Seattle and back a few summers ago. Found the best way to get air to my feet (cool air in my case) was to make sure before I slept that the front air vents pointed high to help get over the front seats. And to try to keep the rear vent as open as possible.
I like the RV campgrounds because I can charge up overnight and take a shower. Also, you don’t need to worry about somebody tapping on your window when you’re sleeping.
This was super interesting! My partner is anxiously waiting for his cyber truck to do some weekend camping with, so we thought'd we do some test runs in my Model X, and this video gave us lots of good recommendations and ideas! That mountain scenery on the drive up was awesome!
The Cybertruck will be interesting. As far as I know there is no passthrough from the cabin, so camp mode won't be useful unless you sleep in the cabin. There is an electrical outlet in the bed, but that limits you to only inefficient resistive heating, as opposed to the heat pump available in the cabin. It will be interesting to see what after-market items come out for the Cybertruck.
Nothing yet but I put my deposit down on 10/22 so there are a million people ahead of me. As I watch my finances ebb and flow, some months I want it and some I don’t.
I took three grandsons on an RV trip to this area. Just about 1/2 mile south of Mt. Carmel where you turned off to the scenic road to Zion, there is a BLM campsite where we camped for free. No charger or services though but a beautiful spot to camp.
very good video. for myself I prefer to use the percentage display. if u click on the miles u can change from miles to percent. maybe you can switch for your viewers between these displays. just two short clicks. e.g.: ok i charged to 141 mi which are 56%……… thank u very much for taking us with u on this trip.
I have a RWD Model 3 with an LFP battery which maxes out at 175 kw/32 amps, so a 14-50 is ideal. I’ve tent camped with it at a state campground in Ohio, loved it! 17:24
Suggestions: The custom made air mattresses that you can get are actually very comfortable as extend beyond the seat giving you a full 190 cm of length, they're affordable and (at least in the case of the one i got from Taptes) come with a 12V pump. Also, a small compressor based fridge will fit perfectly in the trunk well and won't over heat (I use one from IndelB which only puts out around 11W) :)
I love the US campground setups in and around the national parks, sadly we don't have anything like that over here in the UK :( (oh the EV charging info was good too )
Very cool video. I had no idea on the charger pairing numbers and always avoided the stall next to me; thanks to that tidbit. What do you use the Gigapan photos for? Do you ever do any astrophotography with it?
I have not tried to do astrophotography yet, but I know it has been done by others. You need to compensate for the Earth's rotation when taking long exposures, and you need hundreds of photos, which means you can't have any Earth bound objects in the photo.
light inside liftgate can be turned off by using a pen or screwdriver to flip the latch to closed position. No fun to have light on all night (we had tent wrapped around back of open tailgate). Open the latch before closing liftgate.
Thank-you for sharing your lovely video....the vies were so breath-taking even on a full screen mode on the laptop, they looked so lovely and scenic, I am thinking bout when and if I come to the US on a holiday is hire a Model Y or X and take this 4 day trip, thank-you once again for sharing. Am planning to get a Model Y for my first Tesla, and would be able to do Uber Vacations in it which am planning to do, but also save on Hotel Accommodation when am working Sydney 4 days a week, just get the tesla mattress out and go to sleep, as it would only be me, am thinking a single would do quite nicely....once again, thank-you for a lovely breath-taking video.
@@SuperchargedTravels Approximately 10,000 miles per year and I bet the Model 3 was just as good as the day you bought it! I plan to keep my Model S for a while (it's a keeper!). Happy Holidays!!
I've been hearing that from people in the southern states as well. Any states west of the Rockies are usually more friendly towards EVs. I contacted one in Texas and asked about EVs and they had no idea. Once I told them, they were excited about it and made a separate rate for EVs and planned on marketing towards them.
I think you should work on making your subtrunk more accessible or lining your frunk with some kind of thermal liner, because that cooler is about to be working twice as hard in its current environment.
Good suggestion, but the cooler kept ICE frozen for two days in Death Valley in summer, so I'll trade convenience for efficiency and leave it up front.
I have a reservation on the 400 mile aptera, and am migrating from a gas car. Your experience at EV park grounds gives me hope. The primary route that concerns me is Mobile Alabama to Oklahoma City. West of Okc has plenty of chargers.
At 150 Wh/mi. you should be able to make that trip in 14 hours (1.5 hours of that is charging). If you left Mobile at 9 AM and stopped at Wise RV Park & Resort near Longview to spend the night, you would arrive at 5 PM and leave the next morning at 9 AM to arrive in OK at 2 PM the next day. This would cut your DC fast charging down to 57 minutes total, and you would be well rested. Here is the plan: tinyurl.com/26krr55p
Very cool Video! You definitly need some sort of Outside Camera to capture some ambient shots. Also i learned much from this video! Can't wait to get my hands on one this year.
You were only pulling 32 amps @ 208 volts. You should invest in a 40 amp EVSE, and that way, get the most out of the nema 14-50 plug without overheating the equipment.
You should buy the blackout shades for all windows and roof. It cools the car in the summer from the sun beating through the roof and warms the car in winters because 80% of the car is glass. I have a model Y and have more glass. The roof has a sheet to total blackout and you can take the sheet off the shade to allow light in.
On my 2023 Model Y I put exterior glass protection film on the front and roof, and on the sides I have window tint. All of them block UV and IR. It wasn't cheap, but I never have issues with the interior overheating.
You can see some of them at gigapan.com/profiles/sparkmedia However, the Gigapan.com site has been mostly abandoned since 2014 with outdated software that prevents me from uploading anything new.
you are comfortable with 6% SOC? If you pump that speed up or get a headwind I would assume that would make your life a lot worse. As a native of Utah I would say skip the national parks they get way overcrowded with yuppie tourists. You can see some beautiful stuff at state parks and conservation areas without all the people.Zion's is really a let down. You do it because it's something to do but the crowds take away from the experience.
Speed is probably the most important factor in EV efficiency. Drag changes with the speed of travel proportionally to the square of the speed; if you double the speed, the drag goes up by a factor of four. So, if you find yourself anxious about your SOC, you can simply slow down. It may take longer to get there, but it's nice to have this option available if you need it. Thanks for the advice on Utah. It's hard to avoid crowds in any of the popular spots. You definitely need to spend more time planning to avoid them.
The battery percentage is always a calculated guess, especially with the LFP batteries used in the standard range M3 and MY. Charging the LFP to 100% allows the BMS to recalibrate and balance the charge across all the cells. The BMS can't reliably use the voltage to determine the percentage, so it needs to monitor the charge/discharge current (regenerative braking/acceleration), temperature (battery and ambient), recent driving history (lead foot?), LFP vs. NCA, Battery aging (capacity loss and internal resistance), parasitic loss (air conditioning), and other factors Tesla uses in their proprietary algorithm. Be sure to always use the navigation and have a destination. Tesla uses wind speed and direction, elevation/grade, traffic speed, humidity and pressure, solar load & cloud cover, HVAC usage and much more for the range calculation. Open the Energy App in the car to learn more.
The NEMA TT-30 standard is 125 Volts, 30 Amps. This is the same as a standard wall outlet (NEMA 5-15) with the exception that it can handle 30 Amps instead of 15 Amps. Keep in mind that you can only use 80% of the rated amperage. In practice, the TT-30 adds a slight advantage over the NEMA 5-15, but the 50 Amp at 240 Volts (NEMA 14-50) takes it to a whole other level. The 50 Amp will have no problem charging a car to full overnight, whereas the TT-30 would struggle and most likely leave you short, especially if you need significant heating or cooling in camp mode. In that situation, the TT-30 would barely keep up.
Hi thank you for your video. I’m curious how you got lucky to stay at the campgrounds. I tried a few months back to stay at campgrounds in South Carolina and none would rent a site to me. I was honest about sleeping and wanting to charge at the site. How did you pull it off ? Maybe I am missing something.
When I made the reservations, I called or emailed the people at the RV resort to make sure there were no issues. I think the Western states may be more receptive to EVs than South Carolinians. carolinanewsandreporter.cic.sc.edu/as-us-moves-towards-electric-car-future-south-carolina-lags-behind/
Man, that is crazy. I didn’t realize places would deny EV folks a site - I figured it would be first come, first serve for anyone willing to pay. Why should they care if someone is car camping vs tent or RV? In any case, good to know that this is something to consider. Thanks for the heads up, and hopefully the situation will improve.
@@aaronboggs5799 RV campgrounds that haven't upgraded since the 80's are already feeling the impact of everyone plugging into their little grid, so I can understand why they would be hesitant when you plug in your 7,200 watt car charger. The campground needs to be able to handle the load. Many of the newer campgrounds have no problem with providing 100 Amps at a pedestal.
For the first two nights I simply didn't need the miles. On the third night in Zion, I charged to 100% as I was driving home the next day. I suppose if you have the LFP battery there's no harm in charging to 100%.
Note that KOA campgrounds prohibit EV charging, claiming grave hazard to the EV as well as to their pedestals. Methinks KOA just hasn’t figured out how to charge extra for the kW consumed by the horrible hungry EV, never mind the hulking motorhome with three aircons running relentlessly.
I stayed at a KOA in Beaver, Utah with no issues. I always call in advance and make sure they are receptive to EVs. Be sure to speak to the people who are at the campground and not some call center.
I can understand your dilemma. If the campsite is not level, you can park in a way that makes the bed level. For example, I could have turned my car around and made the bed level when I parked at Wildrose Campground in Death Valley: ua-cam.com/video/H9YoJ6lW-gI/v-deo.htmlsi=0-2CDqWXPb1G9uso&t=748
If you have the budget for one, yes. However, for the small percentage of time that I plug into RV campgrounds, I don't feel it would be worth it for me.
Hey there. I’m a taller and huskier dude and have been afraid to crawl into my model 3. Have you had any concerns of breaking the floor panel or seats when sleeping on them?
The bulk of the weight will be on the back of the seats after they are folded down, so I would have no concerns about that whatsoever. If you move the front seats forward you will find there's plenty of space, although there will be a gap between the back seat and the front seat that you will want to fill. Also, be aware that the back seat shelf in the Model 3 can be inconvenient as seen here: ua-cam.com/video/H9YoJ6lW-gI/v-deo.htmlsi=MB0OWbppET8-SuEM&t=148 and here: ua-cam.com/video/H9YoJ6lW-gI/v-deo.htmlsi=1oO_5vgCJeFvkAc3&t=990 The Model Y is much more spacious when it comes to Tesla Camping.
Thank you kindly for taking the time to share your experience and suggestions. I take it you enter from the passenger side doors rather than the trunk? I was very close to crawling inside last summer, but after some thought decided against it. I have put about 43k miles in the car in 1.5 years. Phenomenal vehicle and part of the additional 100k FSD testers they let in for a few months. Thanks again.
@@Cooliellama I would recommend entering from the side doors. Take a floor mat and place it outside the car so you can take your shoes off, then place the shoes on the floor of the car beneath the bed. Also, keep in mind that bugs will want to come inside the car if you have the lights on and the door open.
When you are out in the wilderness, what happens when you have a road blockage or issue with a charger? I just recently got a tesla, and I cant imagine driving to destinations off grid with not much room for error.
In the absolute worst-case scenario, you have the car towed to a supercharger. Most auto clubs will do this up to 50 miles for free. If you have the Tesla Mobile Connector, then you have more options to plug-in somewhere. 50 Amps at an RV Campground is similar to Level-2 charging at a public charger. Apps like plugshare are good at finding those out of the way places to plug-in. You only need enough to get to the next best charger. For example, you can use a standard wall plug until you have enough to reach a destination charger, and then enough to reach a supercharger. A third option is to have someone pull the car. Regenerative braking will charge the battery, as if you are rolling down hill. You have options. Being stuck on the highway in a blizzard means you can car camp in your heated car watching Netflix for many hours while everyone around you is passing out from carbon monoxide poisoning.
When I pulled into Ruby's RV Campground, I had 18 miles of range. If the 50 Amp service didn't work, I had the TT-30 adapter. I also planned ahead and knew that there was a destination charger at the Best Western Plus next door. I had multiple options and plenty of time (overnight) to figure out how to charge my car. Obviously, my original plan worked out... so I didn't need to fall back on the other options.
To be honest, I've found even my Model 3 base model, with its 170kW limit, fine, typically just enough time while supercharging for a pee and maybe a sandwich and salad. Only on one longish gap between chargers across northern New Mexico, 183 miles or so, did charging at the end of that take half an hour. (And that was because I chose a route without chargers, having taken a different route the other direction and realizing I'd be fine.) But there was a reasonable Thai restaurant around the corner.
Nothing worse than tent camping in an RV park. Since you are plugged in would an electric blanket be enough heat? Has to be some sort of space heater that could work safely if not.
Did you get a hard time from any of the campgrounds when you told them you were in a tesla? I've heard that some campgrounds are not thrilled with having an EV take a spot.
When I booked the reservations I always called to make sure that they were friendly towards EVs. Also, when booking online it's hard to know what to choose as "EV" is not one of the pull-down options, so I would call them and ask. Be upfront and make it clear your intentions. You don't want to show up and have any surprises waiting for you.
Not so important. It is a fallback to not having a 50 Amp service and only gives a slight advantage over a regular 15-amp plug. 6 miles per hour for TT-30 vs. 4 miles per hour for a standard 5-15 plug. Probably not worth the expense. I've never had to use mine.
So if you're using the NEMA 14-50, ideally what do you want to set you amperage to in your car? At home I get 48A on my model Y. Can you explain why yours maxed out at 32A when you set the limit?
The Tesla Mobile Connector is hardware limited to 32A. As the TMC communicates directly with the car, you don't need to set anything. You have the option to lower the amps manually, but you can't exceed 32A. Reasons to lower the amps is that you keep tripping a circuit breaker, for example. Wall connectors are different animals and can go up to 60 amps if you wire them appropriately with the proper gauge wire and such.
Yes. You can always move the front seats forward for more room, but then you will need something to cover the gap between front and back seats. A wood board cut to size would work fine. Nothing too complicated.
@@SuperchargedTravels yup, as long as you have the long range or performance. The AWD standard range still has the other battery. Standard range cars are recommended to charge up to 100% and accept 170kw whereas all other cars are recommended below 80% and can accept 250kw
Driving Tesla it’s driving with challenge to charge. If you love challenges, Tesla is for you. I’m rather drive Prius. But thanks for such detailed video. This what I was looking for
EVs are much more efficient at converting the stored energy to motion that many factors go into determining range. For example, the speed you drive in an ice car doesn’t make that big of a difference since so much of the gasoline energy is wasted in the process of keeping the engine from melting that drag doesn’t have that much effect overall. However, you can dramatically extend the range of an EV by driving 65 instead of 85 (drag has much more of a contribution). Since the car doesn’t know how you will be driving in the future it doesn’t necessarily know how to compute the range that is why ranging an EV can be unpredictable. The variables that are known like the weather and climbing elevation and other such factors are used in part of the calculation of your range in a Tesla. As the driver, you don’t necessarily need to pay attention to any of those as the car will give you clues as to what you need to do to extend your range should be out of range of a supercharger. For example, if you need to slow down to reach the next supercharger, the Tesla will tell you this. if you are leaving the area where you will not be able to reach any supercharger the car will tell you this too. It’s very difficult to run out of energy in a Tesla.
I love my Model Y, but I would never do a road trip on it again. I tried it once from my home town in Texas, to San Diego, and took 2 hours more than it usually takes me, plus the range issueis always in the back of your mind throughout the whole trip. EVs are the best for everyday life, but they are not quite there yet to completely replace gas cars. I have the luxury of owning a Suburban too, but if you can only have one car, don't get an EV.
That is a long road trip. 19 Hours from Dallas to San Diego, with 2.5 hours of supercharging for a total of 22.5 hours. I can only hope you stayed the night somewhere in between. I'm working on my next video which will be about planning long road trips and maximizing your time.
Very nice video but also makes it very clear that long-distance travel in a Tesla is tedious, requires extra time and planning and is still too complex for most of us.
I think you're right however I think for those who can handle that extra bit of complexity the benefits of the savings and gas and all the Creature Comforts and other kind of things that come with Tesla is well worth it
Appreciate that is true for some people. Camping in an RV may be a better option for you. RV camping is super enjoyable. Car camping whether in a Tesla or not is a bit more challenging.
People still need to eat and use the restroom. I’ve done several cross country trips and unless you want to cannonball run a trip, the Tesla works very well.
People still need to eat and use the restroom. I’ve done several cross country trips and unless you want to cannonball run a trip, the Tesla works very well.
10:10 - With the NEMA 14-50 I was getting 208 Volts. This means that the campground was distributing 3-phase power to the campsites... so this is normal.
Power line worker here, that NEMA 14-50 should be 2 hot legs of 120v at 50 amps each. That site is not giving you 3 phase 208v, if it was, it would be a single leg of 208v energizing both hot legs of that 14-50 outlet. Which would supply an RV that plugs into it with straight 208v. What’s actually happening at that 14-50 outlet is, the 2 legs of 120v (which would give you 240v) you should be getting are so loaded down or the wiring is undersized, that the amperage you are drawing is dropping the voltage to what would basically be 104v per leg. That campground’s electrical system is in poor shape, I could see it being that low in the summer when a bunch of RV’s are running numerous AC’s, and still the minimum is 110v per leg which you’re 6v shy of. I’d avoid that campground until they did some upgrades to their electrical system.
The battery charge curve segment of this video is the most easy to understand and comprehensive explanations I've seen to date. Well done!
Incredibly useful and well produced video. Will spread the word.
I really love the amount of details you put in these videos, you are really making a good job there. Love your content and i plan on watching it more :)
Luv this. I'm planning to get a model Y and do camping / road trips. Luv the 4k HD scenery. Supercharger numbers info was king. liked and subbed.
Did same camp ground this summer in my Model Y. Hooked up a tent attached to the back of the Model Y. Was a great 3 days of camping and hiking.
Greetings from Canada! Cant wait for my Model Y to arrive. Thank you for making this video with such great details of the charging chart. Really enjoyed it!!
You take I know my car to a new level, hats off sir. Great video
Cracked me up when I saw that suitcase. So funny. I am glad you shared you trip with us, looks like you had fun.
Great video! I enjoyed it very much. Thanks for sharing!
Wonderfully produced video with good information and easy to follow. Underrated channel.
You can warm up/boil a bottle of water to go to sleep with for your toes :)
Wow, greetings from Australia. Thanks for taking us along for the ride and explaining the numbers!, I’m going to watch it again and try and understand the details. Cheers, john
I never stayed at campsites in my 3, but I slept in in in just parking lots driving from Maryland to Seattle and back a few summers ago. Found the best way to get air to my feet (cool air in my case) was to make sure before I slept that the front air vents pointed high to help get over the front seats. And to try to keep the rear vent as open as possible.
I like the RV campgrounds because I can charge up overnight and take a shower. Also, you don’t need to worry about somebody tapping on your window when you’re sleeping.
This was super interesting! My partner is anxiously waiting for his cyber truck to do some weekend camping with, so we thought'd we do some test runs in my Model X, and this video gave us lots of good recommendations and ideas! That mountain scenery on the drive up was awesome!
The Cybertruck will be interesting. As far as I know there is no passthrough from the cabin, so camp mode won't be useful unless you sleep in the cabin. There is an electrical outlet in the bed, but that limits you to only inefficient resistive heating, as opposed to the heat pump available in the cabin. It will be interesting to see what after-market items come out for the Cybertruck.
Look at space campers really cool stuff coming from them.
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I did not know that. Thanks for the info, although I fail to see how it is relevant to the conversation.
How comes you have the old UI? Is this an old video? Other than that, what a trip!!!
Yes, this is from March 2021.
glad I found your channel we have a Cybertruck on order as our first EV. Yes I subscribe to your channel. Thanks Paul!
Did you get your Cybertruck yet?
Nothing yet but I put my deposit down on 10/22 so there are a million people ahead of me. As I watch my finances ebb and flow, some months I want it and some I don’t.
Awesome video! Really enjoyed it.
I took three grandsons on an RV trip to this area. Just about 1/2 mile south of Mt. Carmel where you turned off to the scenic road to Zion, there is a BLM campsite where we camped for free. No charger or services though but a beautiful spot to camp.
I could have easily pulled that off as I didn't need that many electrons to go from Bryce to Zion.
very good video. for myself I prefer to use the percentage display. if u click on the miles u can change from miles to percent. maybe you can switch for your viewers between these displays. just two short clicks. e.g.: ok i charged to 141 mi which are 56%………
thank u very much for taking us with u on this trip.
Really LOVE this Travel format! Please keep on 🎉
Always bring flip flops for the shower... never forget the flip flops...
Good advice!
I have a RWD Model 3 with an LFP battery which maxes out at 175 kw/32 amps, so a 14-50 is ideal. I’ve tent camped with it at a state campground in Ohio, loved it! 17:24
You can attach an ac flex pipe at rear vents. Tesla outdoor cover doing miracles. Nice video thanks.
I find using a small electric blanket was easy and effective. Simply plug it into the power pedestal with a flat extension cord.
Very well done, I appreciate it!!
In Australia, that was a nice video,
Really enjoyed this! Thanks!
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Suggestions: The custom made air mattresses that you can get are actually very comfortable as extend beyond the seat giving you a full 190 cm of length, they're affordable and (at least in the case of the one i got from Taptes) come with a 12V pump. Also, a small compressor based fridge will fit perfectly in the trunk well and won't over heat (I use one from IndelB which only puts out around 11W) :)
My kid has outgrown her bunkbed and it was no longer an option for me, so I needed to get an air mattress. :). I have the Topfit amzn.to/48a2e6f
I love the US campground setups in and around the national parks, sadly we don't have anything like that over here in the UK :( (oh the EV charging info was good too )
Very informative, thank you
Great video, thanks for putting together the whole trip & locations 🙏
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very cool video. I had no idea on the charger pairing numbers and always avoided the stall next to me; thanks to that tidbit. What do you use the Gigapan photos for? Do you ever do any astrophotography with it?
I have not tried to do astrophotography yet, but I know it has been done by others. You need to compensate for the Earth's rotation when taking long exposures, and you need hundreds of photos, which means you can't have any Earth bound objects in the photo.
great video and analysis. just a heads up though, you may want to blur out your address in the scene where you're recording the GPS.
Thanks, but I have put thought into it and decided that I don't see the need to.
light inside liftgate can be turned off by using a pen or screwdriver to flip the latch to closed position. No fun to have light on all night (we had tent wrapped around back of open tailgate). Open the latch before closing liftgate.
Thank-you for sharing your lovely video....the vies were so breath-taking even on a full screen mode on the laptop, they looked so lovely and scenic, I am thinking bout when and if I come to the US on a holiday is hire a Model Y or X and take this 4 day trip, thank-you once again for sharing.
Am planning to get a Model Y for my first Tesla, and would be able to do Uber Vacations in it which am planning to do, but also save on Hotel Accommodation when am working Sydney 4 days a week, just get the tesla mattress out and go to sleep, as it would only be me, am thinking a single would do quite nicely....once again, thank-you for a lovely breath-taking video.
Professionally produced video and really well planned trip. How old is your M3 now and its mileage?
Thanks. I traded in the 2018 Model 3 for a Model Y in September 2023. It had 47,304 miles on it at the time. I had the car 4 years and 9 months.
@@SuperchargedTravels Approximately 10,000 miles per year and I bet the Model 3 was just as good as the day you bought it! I plan to keep my Model S for a while (it's a keeper!). Happy Holidays!!
East coast, ive seen many campgrounds that dont allow ev charging!!!!
Iv seen 2 that have level 2 stations (not at the camping Pedestals)
I've been hearing that from people in the southern states as well. Any states west of the Rockies are usually more friendly towards EVs. I contacted one in Texas and asked about EVs and they had no idea. Once I told them, they were excited about it and made a separate rate for EVs and planned on marketing towards them.
I think you should work on making your subtrunk more accessible or lining your frunk with some kind of thermal liner, because that cooler is about to be working twice as hard in its current environment.
Good suggestion, but the cooler kept ICE frozen for two days in Death Valley in summer, so I'll trade convenience for efficiency and leave it up front.
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I would divorce anyone who said 2 minutes behind schedule on a camping trip.
That is completely understandable.
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I have a reservation on the 400 mile aptera, and am migrating from a gas car. Your experience at EV park grounds gives me hope. The primary route that concerns me is Mobile Alabama to Oklahoma City. West of Okc has plenty of chargers.
At 150 Wh/mi. you should be able to make that trip in 14 hours (1.5 hours of that is charging). If you left Mobile at 9 AM and stopped at Wise RV Park & Resort near Longview to spend the night, you would arrive at 5 PM and leave the next morning at 9 AM to arrive in OK at 2 PM the next day. This would cut your DC fast charging down to 57 minutes total, and you would be well rested. Here is the plan: tinyurl.com/26krr55p
Great video... I worry when it predicts arriving at 10 % or less, as for me around 20 is my safe zone. LOL. Thx!
I had a 2016 eGolf with 83 miles of range and survived for years, so my threshold for range anxiety is much higher.
7:17 come to Texas where we have 85mph speed limits.
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Compared to the content you are producing, you have no subscribers!! Great video, thanks.
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Very cool Video! You definitly need some sort of Outside Camera to capture some ambient shots.
Also i learned much from this video! Can't wait to get my hands on one this year.
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You were only pulling 32 amps @ 208 volts. You should invest in a 40 amp EVSE, and that way, get the most out of the nema 14-50 plug without overheating the equipment.
You should buy the blackout shades for all windows and roof. It cools the car in the summer from the sun beating through the roof and warms the car in winters because 80% of the car is glass. I have a model Y and have more glass. The roof has a sheet to total blackout and you can take the sheet off the shade to allow light in.
On my 2023 Model Y I put exterior glass protection film on the front and roof, and on the sides I have window tint. All of them block UV and IR. It wasn't cheap, but I never have issues with the interior overheating.
Btw some of the best views in the park are sideways looking out when you are going through the tunnel.
This is amazing. Thank you for this
You do know that the mobile charger has a max input of 32 AMPs right? Says so on the charger. The 14-50 adapter is also rated for 32 AMPs as well.
Bro, how did you not go to "The Mad Greek" in Baker? Best food on that route... well until you got to Vegas.
SOC was sooo high at every stop.
Real world does not always match ideal world.
🎉🎉800 subs sweet
Good video but please leave the onscreen notes up a bit longer. Need time to actually read them. Thanks.
its called pause
Also, where can we view your gigapanos? Or do you only sell them?
You can see some of them at gigapan.com/profiles/sparkmedia
However, the Gigapan.com site has been mostly abandoned since 2014 with outdated software that prevents me from uploading anything new.
you are comfortable with 6% SOC? If you pump that speed up or get a headwind I would assume that would make your life a lot worse. As a native of Utah I would say skip the national parks they get way overcrowded with yuppie tourists. You can see some beautiful stuff at state parks and conservation areas without all the people.Zion's is really a let down. You do it because it's something to do but the crowds take away from the experience.
Speed is probably the most important factor in EV efficiency. Drag changes with the speed of travel proportionally to the square of the speed; if you double the speed, the drag goes up by a factor of four. So, if you find yourself anxious about your SOC, you can simply slow down. It may take longer to get there, but it's nice to have this option available if you need it. Thanks for the advice on Utah. It's hard to avoid crowds in any of the popular spots. You definitely need to spend more time planning to avoid them.
My Model Y arrival forecast has been off by up to 15% at times (winter or windy). I never arrive with less than 15% when I'm driving in rural areas.
The battery percentage is always a calculated guess, especially with the LFP batteries used in the standard range M3 and MY. Charging the LFP to 100% allows the BMS to recalibrate and balance the charge across all the cells. The BMS can't reliably use the voltage to determine the percentage, so it needs to monitor the charge/discharge current (regenerative braking/acceleration), temperature (battery and ambient), recent driving history (lead foot?), LFP vs. NCA, Battery aging (capacity loss and internal resistance), parasitic loss (air conditioning), and other factors Tesla uses in their proprietary algorithm. Be sure to always use the navigation and have a destination. Tesla uses wind speed and direction, elevation/grade, traffic speed, humidity and pressure, solar load & cloud cover, HVAC usage and much more for the range calculation. Open the Energy App in the car to learn more.
U really like to love planning and scheduling plus contingency plans a car for engineers with lots of free time
I like the challenge. It's fun for me.
Please use % vs miles so we can better follow along
Good suggestion. Thank you.
Beautiful video subbing at 76🎉
It's nice that a mattress fits but I could much better see a roll up pad and then the sleeping bag on top.
In my 20's a Thermarest and a sleeping bag was all I needed for camping. But now that I'm older, I need a mattress and climate control. :)
How many miles have you driven ? Thank you.
Just cover up all windows will go plenty.
How much was the charging at the superchargers or is your car one of the early ones that didn't have to pay?
26:39 - At the end of the video I show the expenses. I paid $42.57 for supercharging.
That 30 amp for campers is 220 and should provide a lot of charging overnights.
The NEMA TT-30 standard is 125 Volts, 30 Amps. This is the same as a standard wall outlet (NEMA 5-15) with the exception that it can handle 30 Amps instead of 15 Amps. Keep in mind that you can only use 80% of the rated amperage. In practice, the TT-30 adds a slight advantage over the NEMA 5-15, but the 50 Amp at 240 Volts (NEMA 14-50) takes it to a whole other level. The 50 Amp will have no problem charging a car to full overnight, whereas the TT-30 would struggle and most likely leave you short, especially if you need significant heating or cooling in camp mode. In that situation, the TT-30 would barely keep up.
@@SuperchargedTravelsYou know I have a 30 amp camper and assumed it was 220v. My son in law educated me today!
when was this trip recorded? the UI is so outdated
March 2021
ah ok , nice video very indepth and helpful for poeple looking to camp in teslas
@@SuperchargedTravels
Dang! I had no idea the campsite fees were so high - nearly 4 times higher than the cost of Tesla Supercharging for this trip.
Yes, but the fee covers lodging as well with access to clean bathrooms and showers.
MY fits full size 54 x 75in matress.
Hi thank you for your video. I’m curious how you got lucky to stay at the campgrounds. I tried a few months back to stay at campgrounds in South Carolina and none would rent a site to me. I was honest about sleeping and wanting to charge at the site. How did you pull it off ? Maybe I am missing something.
When I made the reservations, I called or emailed the people at the RV resort to make sure there were no issues. I think the Western states may be more receptive to EVs than South Carolinians.
carolinanewsandreporter.cic.sc.edu/as-us-moves-towards-electric-car-future-south-carolina-lags-behind/
Man, that is crazy. I didn’t realize places would deny EV folks a site - I figured it would be first come, first serve for anyone willing to pay. Why should they care if someone is car camping vs tent or RV?
In any case, good to know that this is something to consider. Thanks for the heads up, and hopefully the situation will improve.
@@aaronboggs5799 RV campgrounds that haven't upgraded since the 80's are already feeling the impact of everyone plugging into their little grid, so I can understand why they would be hesitant when you plug in your 7,200 watt car charger. The campground needs to be able to handle the load. Many of the newer campgrounds have no problem with providing 100 Amps at a pedestal.
Great video
What software version are you running?!
v10.2 (2021.4.12)
Why you have charging limit set while travel. Charge to 100% specially from free charging 👌
For the first two nights I simply didn't need the miles. On the third night in Zion, I charged to 100% as I was driving home the next day. I suppose if you have the LFP battery there's no harm in charging to 100%.
Note that KOA campgrounds prohibit EV charging, claiming grave hazard to the EV as well as to their pedestals. Methinks KOA just hasn’t figured out how to charge extra for the kW consumed by the horrible hungry EV, never mind the hulking motorhome with three aircons running relentlessly.
I stayed at a KOA in Beaver, Utah with no issues. I always call in advance and make sure they are receptive to EVs. Be sure to speak to the people who are at the campground and not some call center.
The KOA website has a list of the KOA campgrounds that accept EVs.
I don't know how you can sleep on an incline in your Model 3. It drove me absolutely nuts. I have to level everything out when I sleep in mine.
I can understand your dilemma. If the campsite is not level, you can park in a way that makes the bed level. For example, I could have turned my car around and made the bed level when I parked at Wildrose Campground in Death Valley: ua-cam.com/video/H9YoJ6lW-gI/v-deo.htmlsi=0-2CDqWXPb1G9uso&t=748
Do you reccomwnd a surge protector on campground electric?
If you have the budget for one, yes. However, for the small percentage of time that I plug into RV campgrounds, I don't feel it would be worth it for me.
Hey there. I’m a taller and huskier dude and have been afraid to crawl into my model 3. Have you had any concerns of breaking the floor panel or seats when sleeping on them?
The bulk of the weight will be on the back of the seats after they are folded down, so I would have no concerns about that whatsoever. If you move the front seats forward you will find there's plenty of space, although there will be a gap between the back seat and the front seat that you will want to fill. Also, be aware that the back seat shelf in the Model 3 can be inconvenient as seen here: ua-cam.com/video/H9YoJ6lW-gI/v-deo.htmlsi=MB0OWbppET8-SuEM&t=148
and here:
ua-cam.com/video/H9YoJ6lW-gI/v-deo.htmlsi=1oO_5vgCJeFvkAc3&t=990
The Model Y is much more spacious when it comes to Tesla Camping.
Thank you kindly for taking the time to share your experience and suggestions. I take it you enter from the passenger side doors rather than the trunk? I was very close to crawling inside last summer, but after some thought decided against it. I have put about 43k miles in the car in 1.5 years. Phenomenal vehicle and part of the additional 100k FSD testers they let in for a few months. Thanks again.
@@Cooliellama I would recommend entering from the side doors. Take a floor mat and place it outside the car so you can take your shoes off, then place the shoes on the floor of the car beneath the bed. Also, keep in mind that bugs will want to come inside the car if you have the lights on and the door open.
When you are out in the wilderness, what happens when you have a road blockage or issue with a charger? I just recently got a tesla, and I cant imagine driving to destinations off grid with not much room for error.
In the absolute worst-case scenario, you have the car towed to a supercharger. Most auto clubs will do this up to 50 miles for free. If you have the Tesla Mobile Connector, then you have more options to plug-in somewhere. 50 Amps at an RV Campground is similar to Level-2 charging at a public charger. Apps like plugshare are good at finding those out of the way places to plug-in. You only need enough to get to the next best charger. For example, you can use a standard wall plug until you have enough to reach a destination charger, and then enough to reach a supercharger. A third option is to have someone pull the car. Regenerative braking will charge the battery, as if you are rolling down hill. You have options. Being stuck on the highway in a blizzard means you can car camp in your heated car watching Netflix for many hours while everyone around you is passing out from carbon monoxide poisoning.
When I pulled into Ruby's RV Campground, I had 18 miles of range. If the 50 Amp service didn't work, I had the TT-30 adapter. I also planned ahead and knew that there was a destination charger at the Best Western Plus next door. I had multiple options and plenty of time (overnight) to figure out how to charge my car. Obviously, my original plan worked out... so I didn't need to fall back on the other options.
Thanks for the info! I think my comfort zone will improve once I get out there.
Heater vs. A/C shouldn't make a lot of difference. Both engage the use of the heat pump.
That is true. However, I was driving a 2018 Model 3 which used resistive heating elements. The heat pump was introduced with the Model Y in 2020.
Were you charged for charging @ Campsites?
No. Only for the campsite. You should definitely contact the one you are interested in before booking to make sure.
(Also - you will never get full 250kw bc - model 3. Newer S,X, and Y can pull the full 250kw)
That is correct. Different Teslas have different upper limits. The Cybertruck can accept 350 kW from the v4 superchargers.
To be honest, I've found even my Model 3 base model, with its 170kW limit, fine, typically just enough time while supercharging for a pee and maybe a sandwich and salad. Only on one longish gap between chargers across northern New Mexico, 183 miles or so, did charging at the end of that take half an hour. (And that was because I chose a route without chargers, having taken a different route the other direction and realizing I'd be fine.) But there was a reasonable Thai restaurant around the corner.
Nothing worse than tent camping in an RV park.
Since you are plugged in would an electric blanket be enough heat?
Has to be some sort of space heater that could work safely if not.
The Tesla has Camp mode which keeps the car warm or cold. It’s just that the air circulation doesn’t reach the very back where your toes are.
Tesla RV?
I was camping inside my vehicle... so yes. Think of it as a self-powered popup camper that doesn't pop up.
Did you get a hard time from any of the campgrounds when you told them you were in a tesla? I've heard that some campgrounds are not thrilled with having an EV take a spot.
When I booked the reservations I always called to make sure that they were friendly towards EVs. Also, when booking online it's hard to know what to choose as "EV" is not one of the pull-down options, so I would call them and ask. Be upfront and make it clear your intentions. You don't want to show up and have any surprises waiting for you.
Thanks, will definitely do that
How important do you think it is to have a NEMA TT-30 with you to charge at RV sites? I would assume most have the 14-50?
Not so important. It is a fallback to not having a 50 Amp service and only gives a slight advantage over a regular 15-amp plug. 6 miles per hour for TT-30 vs. 4 miles per hour for a standard 5-15 plug. Probably not worth the expense. I've never had to use mine.
@@SuperchargedTravels Appreciate your tip!
Wow, are you not even on Software v11? Is there a reason?
This was in the summer of 2020.
So if you're using the NEMA 14-50, ideally what do you want to set you amperage to in your car?
At home I get 48A on my model Y. Can you explain why yours maxed out at 32A when you set the limit?
The Tesla Mobile Connector is hardware limited to 32A. As the TMC communicates directly with the car, you don't need to set anything. You have the option to lower the amps manually, but you can't exceed 32A. Reasons to lower the amps is that you keep tripping a circuit breaker, for example. Wall connectors are different animals and can go up to 60 amps if you wire them appropriately with the proper gauge wire and such.
@@SuperchargedTravels thank you 😊
What was the cost to charge for this trip?
26:39 - $207.18 which includes lodging.
Thanks. Was more interested in the charging figures but fueling twice in my car would be more expensive than your whole trip lol thanks
Whoops. Missed the cost breakdown. Thanks.
@@cesarrocha2706 Since I charged at home and the RV campgrounds, it's hard to put a $$ on the cost of charging alone.
did u find sleeping in it comfortable? I am 6 foot tall and I wanna buy one and live in it
Yes. You can always move the front seats forward for more room, but then you will need something to cover the gap between front and back seats. A wood board cut to size would work fine. Nothing too complicated.
your model 3 looks to be a single motor. which means it can only accept 170kw of power
I never knew that until now. I traded in my 2018 Model 3 for a 2023 dual motor Model Y, so this is no longer an issue for me.
@@SuperchargedTravels yup, as long as you have the long range or performance. The AWD standard range still has the other battery. Standard range cars are recommended to charge up to 100% and accept 170kw whereas all other cars are recommended below 80% and can accept 250kw
anyone knows which adapter is needed to charge at Ruby's?
It depends on which of the three places you plan on plugging in. Check plugshare.com to find the answer.
What’s real life energy consumption vs official?
Driving Tesla it’s driving with challenge to charge. If you love challenges, Tesla is for you. I’m rather drive Prius. But thanks for such detailed video. This what I was looking for
EVs are much more efficient at converting the stored energy to motion that many factors go into determining range. For example, the speed you drive in an ice car doesn’t make that big of a difference since so much of the gasoline energy is wasted in the process of keeping the engine from melting that drag doesn’t have that much effect overall. However, you can dramatically extend the range of an EV by driving 65 instead of 85 (drag has much more of a contribution). Since the car doesn’t know how you will be driving in the future it doesn’t necessarily know how to compute the range that is why ranging an EV can be unpredictable. The variables that are known like the weather and climbing elevation and other such factors are used in part of the calculation of your range in a Tesla. As the driver, you don’t necessarily need to pay attention to any of those as the car will give you clues as to what you need to do to extend your range should be out of range of a supercharger. For example, if you need to slow down to reach the next supercharger, the Tesla will tell you this. if you are leaving the area where you will not be able to reach any supercharger the car will tell you this too. It’s very difficult to run out of energy in a Tesla.
I always charge to 98%. It’s really not that long of a wait.
There's plenty of entertainment options in Tesla Theater and Toy Box to keep you busy.
I love my Model Y, but I would never do a road trip on it again. I tried it once from my home town in Texas, to San Diego, and took 2 hours more than it usually takes me, plus the range issueis always in the back of your mind throughout the whole trip. EVs are the best for everyday life, but they are not quite there yet to completely replace gas cars. I have the luxury of owning a Suburban too, but if you can only have one car, don't get an EV.
That is a long road trip. 19 Hours from Dallas to San Diego, with 2.5 hours of supercharging for a total of 22.5 hours. I can only hope you stayed the night somewhere in between. I'm working on my next video which will be about planning long road trips and maximizing your time.
Very nice video but also makes it very clear that long-distance travel in a Tesla is tedious, requires extra time and planning and is still too complex for most of us.
Thank you for the comment. It's comments like these that give me ideas for new videos. Keep them coming.
I think you're right however I think for those who can handle that extra bit of complexity the benefits of the savings and gas and all the Creature Comforts and other kind of things that come with Tesla is well worth it
Appreciate that is true for some people. Camping in an RV may be a better option for you. RV camping is super enjoyable. Car camping whether in a Tesla or not is a bit more challenging.
People still need to eat and use the restroom. I’ve done several cross country trips and unless you want to cannonball run a trip, the Tesla works very well.
People still need to eat and use the restroom. I’ve done several cross country trips and unless you want to cannonball run a trip, the Tesla works very well.
Tesla camping looks like as much fun as going to a dentist 🤣🤣
As much as I enjoy a good teeth cleaning every six months, I'm going to have to disagree with you.
RV campgrounds have old worn out sockets.