Overpopulation problems are not real

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  • Опубліковано 9 сер 2019
  • The main motive of Marvel’s main villain Thanos was the overpopulation of the Universe. He believed that by destroying half of all life, he is saving the rest. But he was mistaken. His ideas are close to the ideas of Malthusianism - a theory that predicts the collapse of civilization due to overpopulation and lack of resources. In this video, we will figure out why this theory is wrong and why Thanos was wrong too.
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  • @Shadowfax-1980
    @Shadowfax-1980 4 роки тому +41

    “You could not live without an informative and witty video about a random subject. And where did that bring you...back to me.” - Horizon

  • @ahs7869
    @ahs7869 4 роки тому +57

    How does this vid only have 120 views something’s off

    • @1dir951
      @1dir951 4 роки тому +1

      Not enough "Likes" and "Shares" (did you?) to get it into peoples Trending and Recommended lists.

    • @SmartAlx
      @SmartAlx 4 роки тому +5

      Legit it's because Google is a part of the global conspiracy trying to stop people from reproducing and this video exposes the truth that we aren't overpopulated.

    • @PtrkHrnk
      @PtrkHrnk 4 роки тому

      Not enough clickbait...

    • @trash4cash454
      @trash4cash454 4 роки тому

      A bit complicated theme

    • @jacksonpercy8044
      @jacksonpercy8044 4 роки тому

      Now it has 120 likes

  • @victorpatti3702
    @victorpatti3702 4 роки тому +18

    I enjoyed the comment of “the Stone Age didn’t end because we ran out of stone”. A little humor works well with such a serious issue, and thanks for the spoiler.

  • @russel9083
    @russel9083 3 роки тому +4

    "The stone age did not end because we ran out of stones". Beautiful.

  • @LIOTBs
    @LIOTBs 4 роки тому +5

    Agreed!
    1. As a scientist (biologist) overpopulation is not a problem and is only fear mongering as the population will level off as human populations can only reach a certain number. Further, the false concern of overcrowding is also fear mongering as of 20 years ago, all females could have been given half an acre+ of land and fit in borders of Brazil. That much land per person is enough to maintain a family, thus the rest of the population. If people are wise with the resources we have plenty for untold future generations.
    2. Also, as a person of faith there is "enough and to spare". We are to be wise stewards over the planet as everything was given to us for beauty and for our use. God will not leave the people of the earth with nothing. Furthermore, the plan of God for this world as it now is has an end and when that comes to an end the earth will be renewed in a glorified state. There is enough and to spare far beyond that point. Now, we must note that God will hold us countable for how we treat the earth. Additionally, we are to multiply on the earth and have as many children as possible and teach them to respect the earth, others, and to be industrious. Before we came to this world we lived with God as we are his spirit children. There he presented a plan so that we could become like him. One of the main parts of that plan was to go through a temporal existence to learn and grow. So, each person that is born is going through this part of the plan. God has prepared for each one, but part of that preparation is based on each of the people hear and our agency/free will to chose by faith. Our choices effect other people. Each of us needs to be wise stewards and help each other to be successful here in being the best kind of people. Greatness is inborn - we need to trust each other and inspire and draw-out that greatness in each other. We need to stamp out greediness, fear, and envy. We need faith, hope, and love.

  • @kierancalder8573
    @kierancalder8573 4 роки тому +32

    Keep it up Horizon. At some point you’re going to experience your own population boom 💥. It happens to all good quality under rated youtube channels at some point.

  • @ftse07
    @ftse07 4 роки тому +11

    *I miss the Stone Age although it was a hard time*

    • @edwardollinger1530
      @edwardollinger1530 4 роки тому +1

      I see what you did there

    • @hatuletoh
      @hatuletoh 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah, the Stone Age rocked, but eventually everyone became metal fans.

  • @MezThorbonizer
    @MezThorbonizer 4 роки тому

    Subscribed! Great info well delivered! Thanks. Please keep the videos coming

  • @kenmarb9981
    @kenmarb9981 4 роки тому

    I really njoy your vids....keep em coming...

  • @malikanuur4298
    @malikanuur4298 4 роки тому +2

    Great video

  • @drawingboard82
    @drawingboard82 4 роки тому

    Great explanation, many thanks for sharing.

  • @poanochung-wahlee1567
    @poanochung-wahlee1567 4 роки тому +2

    Interesting video

  • @chwaca
    @chwaca 4 роки тому +3

    Well thanks to the technology less and less people work in agriculture and we still waste over 30% of our food, so there is plenty of food for everyone. Question is, what quality we get ? Also with hydroponic farm we can save over 80% of water compare to the traditional irrigation of crops on land. We should embrace cooperation, mutual trust and respect which are the building stones of humanity.

  • @kardy12
    @kardy12 4 роки тому +7

    Well put! Amazingly, even today some believe in Malthusian nonsense.
    Liked your skyships channel and discovered this one.

    • @typhonplume9374
      @typhonplume9374 3 роки тому +1

      Tell that to India, China, and a few other places that proved Overpopulation is a thing and a major issue for well over 20 years now for there Urban areas. It's kind of public knowledge and has been completely ignored by this video.

    • @kardy12
      @kardy12 3 роки тому

      @@typhonplume9374
      Well, the facts appear to be ignored in this comment: ua-cam.com/video/FACK2knC08E/v-deo.html

  • @buttert5091
    @buttert5091 Рік тому +1

    Glad someone can say this as people are getting mad

  • @Mullet-ZubazPants
    @Mullet-ZubazPants 4 роки тому +1

    Here is something most people are not aware of. The birthplace of Malthus has a higher population density than China. By a considerable amount I might add (China - 145 people per sq km ... UK - 274 people per sq km) ... Even if you take into account "real population density based on food growing capacity" the UK still has a much higher pop density

  • @seanmcardle
    @seanmcardle 4 роки тому

    nice discussion. Empty Planet by d bricker etc discusses population decline further, siting urbanisation, medicine and women's education among reasons for declining birthrate

  • @waheex
    @waheex 4 роки тому +2

    Excellent and Interesting video. I think though that technology will also enable us to continue to overpopulate as well as solving many of the issues raised in the video. also it is very anthropomorphic. Surely a happy sustainable world must have other species in it. I agree human will be ok and solve many of the problems but animals, diversity and wild animals are toast. I hope i'm wrong.

  • @frankgaleon5124
    @frankgaleon5124 4 роки тому +2

    Eventually, new video

  • @runalmungekar13
    @runalmungekar13 4 роки тому +2

    For you over population will be more people, more subscribers, more income.
    You haven't seen what powerful people will do to stay in power.
    Real examples are present but you clear don't mind to see

  • @maghilvannanm2415
    @maghilvannanm2415 3 роки тому +1

    Hmm due to overpopulation the economic gap between rich and poor keeps increasing. It's kinda a catastrophe

    • @DeSpaceFairy
      @DeSpaceFairy 3 роки тому +1

      You mean, due to scarcity of recourses and the coercive attitude or upright predatory, from foreigns or local antities, towards nations (if not with already abysmal gestion) with economical and political unstablelity, in the perspective to squeeze some profits.
      By saying the poor are poorer because they getting more numerous, is ignoring where the money and recourses really goes, nowadays the world is too interconnected and complex for pinpoint at a visible problem, without taking in consideration the whole context.

  • @GarfieldRex
    @GarfieldRex 4 роки тому +1

    4:17 ooooohhhh Legio Aeterna Victrix oooooohhh
    Roma Invicta.
    From Ben Hur 2016 film

  • @WildBillCox13
    @WildBillCox13 4 роки тому +3

    Liked and linked. A worthy analysis.

  • @rykehuss3435
    @rykehuss3435 4 роки тому +3

    In the comics he did it to court Death, the cosmic being who he was infatuated with. Its a shame, since that relationship is his main driver, his raison d'être. MCU Thanos has nothing to do with comic Thanos.

  • @jacksonpercy8044
    @jacksonpercy8044 4 роки тому +4

    Does the 11-12 billion estimation take into account the future increase in lifespan due to improved medicine and technology? Because in the future we can theoretically all live to about 120 years old, assuming we don't figure out how to prevent ageing entirely.

    • @MASB29
      @MASB29 4 роки тому +1

      Yes. Wthout natural cause, death rate will still be (surprisingly) quiet high and reaching 500 years old will be below 1% chance

  • @UnOrigionalOne
    @UnOrigionalOne 4 роки тому

    Oooo, nice jab at the Terminator movie franchise.

  • @tacpaws
    @tacpaws 3 роки тому

    I like the vid! and I agree but there are 2 things mssing, 1 global warming wich leads to a reduction of water and food globaly, and distribution of wealth translated into food and water on a global level. U should take a look at the doc:how many people can live on planet earth by david Attenborough. its a cool doc and its about this subject :) I subed!

  • @jorgealvarado9880
    @jorgealvarado9880 4 роки тому +3

    Technology, like everything, has two sides: it helps to fight diseases and ensure food supply, but it also kills jobs. For me it is obvious that we need to control population growth (not by killing but by reducing birth rates) to eliminate the excess of workmanship that drives salaries down and contributes to mass migrations. Yes, people in many places do reproduce like rabbits and that doesnt help. Another downsize of technology is that, if combined with human greed, it is used to produce war weapons to kill more and more people, so it pretty much depends on HOW we use it. Humanity can be kind but human greed is also there, and can direct power against us. The Cuban Missile Crisis is just a reminder that we can have a serious event at any time.

  • @stuartmunro2474
    @stuartmunro2474 9 місяців тому

    The Malthusian trap is still out there, waiting for unwary feet. Absent a degree of political wisdom (and by golly that's an endangered species), overpopulation can precipitate some pretty serious problems. Human societies have largely survived setbacks like the Great Plague, or the famines of 536-539. But the next one may collapse our advanced technologies, and with them our advanced agriculture.

  • @phil20_20
    @phil20_20 4 роки тому

    I think you could have done that without outing Thanos.

  • @darthvader5300
    @darthvader5300 4 роки тому

    ​ Alex Schamenek Look at beautiful and lovely and PROSPEROUS Monaco in the mid-1960s. In 1966 it has a population of 33,000 people per square mile and yet it's annual exports are STUNNINGLY AGRICULTURAL SURPLUSES. FOOD SURPLUSES! They achive this through the use of FRENCH INTENSIVE GARDENING-FARMING combined with multiple-cropping, double-cropping, inter-planting, companion planting with protective-nurturing plants, fermented and STERILE AND THEREFORE harmless compost (humus and animal manure), etc In one single harvest season they produce enough food to meet their needs several times over. Imagine what more can they achive with greenhouses and with granite rock dust, biochar, living mulch, tree alley cropping, etc! But because of bad economic policies they destroyed their garden-farm plots and put tourist hotels and retirement luxury apartments! You cannot eat tourist hotels and retirement luxury apartments. However all is not lost for Singapore realized what great error the Monacans had done to their life-supporting gardens-farms, and they started putting up aquaponics and non-circulating hydroponics based on old time-tested and time-proven designs over the past several decades in the past which were almost lost and forgotten and were now being revived all over again.

  • @oatlord
    @oatlord 4 роки тому

    I didn't join Thanoswasright for my concern of over population though.

  • @simonlachapelle362
    @simonlachapelle362 2 роки тому

    When we are enough, we eat the rich.

  • @authorizedagent4881
    @authorizedagent4881 3 роки тому

    Excellent retort to the untoward enviromentalist. Ha😎😒🗿

  • @kamerondonaldson5976
    @kamerondonaldson5976 8 місяців тому

    you can either do hunter gatherer society or subsistence agrarianism but there's no way to progress beyond that.
    what is natural is self sustaining so it is futile to fight it. because if war is natural, fighting against war is itself a war and is counterproductive. regardless of whether war is natural or not, war is also the only answer to eradicating the problems of poverty, hunger, disease, etc.. nature grows your food but you have to compete for finite resources.
    the tragedy of the commons is very real whether we are dealing with the actual commons or feudal lords muscling in on each other's private hunting grounds. it's not a matter of inefficient management, it's a matter of people being pigs that need to eat more than nature can grow.

  • @brrman4089
    @brrman4089 3 роки тому +1

    Overpopulation Is not a problem there's many planets existing out there.

    • @anirudhmitra4232
      @anirudhmitra4232 Рік тому

      try living on venus. Human arrogance is beyond comprehension.

  • @lexo892
    @lexo892 2 роки тому

    Whatever what u say WE ARE TOO MANY .

  • @betterwithrum
    @betterwithrum 4 роки тому +1

    You should have provided credits for movie clips.

  • @ZachariahJ
    @ZachariahJ 9 місяців тому

    Provide education and contraception, and populations fall, naturally, without any need of big purple aliens.

  • @timothydavies7417
    @timothydavies7417 3 роки тому

    briullinet :)

  • @ervandrush3116
    @ervandrush3116 4 роки тому +1

    On such incorrect theories all stereotypes are held by people.

  • @EdwardTilley
    @EdwardTilley 4 роки тому

    Great documentary and accurate of course. The only social problem that has before - and can reliably bring our dooms - is Social Contract (Social Problems that stall our economies; these gave rise to World Wars 1,2, to the American Revolution and to the greatest Depression of all time - the General Crisis of 1640). Population reduces naturally in prosperous nations - from six to 2.2 - sustainable. Diversity policies have actually created unsustainable fertility rates in 94% of high-income nations until they now average 1.8. After 30-years of 1-Child policy, China is 1.4 and Canada has plummeted to a kamakazi-suicidal 1.5. csq1.org/SCP.
    Java in Indonesia? holds 130 million people on an island smaller than Cuba - so the earth can house hundreds more people that we are today - and computerized infrastructures can feed and house people as needed. So much for the movies/books Inferno, Wall-E, Logan's Run, Elysium, etc.

  • @EspHack
    @EspHack 3 роки тому

    alright lets double your current house's population and ask again

  • @joelt2002
    @joelt2002 4 роки тому +7

    Industrialization and scientific growth, and innovation. These are things very hard to predict in the future. People of the early 20th century thought we would have flying cars by the year 2000. People of the late 19th century thought blimps/air ships would be the dominant air travel across the globe by the 1950's. People of the early 20th century thought horse manure would cause civilization to screech to a halt (as cities had so many people and horses that they wouldn't clear out the horse crap fast enough).
    Humans adapt, humans innovate, humans react. Is there a theoretical limit to how many people could live on Earth in a sustainable fashion? Yeah. Does anyone actually know this number? No. Not even close. If someone claims to know this number they are lying to you or are a very dangerous fool. Even if we assumed technology was stagnate (as in it will never improve) it would still be ridiculous to assume you have enough data to make such a declaration. Peak Oil was supposed to happen in the 90's. Yet we have more access to oil today in 2020 than we did 30 years ago.
    This doesn't mean we shouldn't be thinking about potential problems of the future. The difference is attempting to act on it in some government enforce "solution" with your limited data, limited technology, and limited understanding. The United States Constitution provides an outlet for this, which is having congress invest in the arts and sciences. As in we continue to invest in our brain trust to innovate solutions. We then rely upon our economy and entrepreneurs to come up with distribution methods that are the most efficient based on those scientific break throughs.
    Sadly there are Fascists alive and well in our world today who hold a great deal of power in the EU, UN, China, and even in parts of the United States. People who think they are special and elite, and that the masses need to be controlled. Instead of contributing to the greater society through their individual actions, they attempt to squelch individual choices and actions in favor of them making all the decisions. UN Agenda 21 exists, and it is frightful. Climate Change hysteria is literally based off of over population scares. Eugenics as this video pointed out was also based off of it, and Eugenics is on the rise again among leftists within the United States and throughout Europe. They are smart enough to rebrand themselves, but they are spreading their ignorant evil philosophy among the younger generations, using fear as well as selling themselves as the elite.
    Society should focus on the greatest innovation, which comes from a free market capitalistic system. A limited government, as the United States once was. Unfortunately the United States is one of the few countries who truly do this and in recent decades it's innovative spirit is being crushed. Stagnation will set in, followed by the rise of these Fascist governments who will be claiming they are doing "good". Just trust the state, the state knows best. You don't need to worry about the little details.

    • @kingazteck5
      @kingazteck5 4 роки тому +3

      yeah don't forget to add communism because if you an idea of bad that is just look up the gulags or the katyn massacre and you'll get a pretty good idea.

  • @mangalores-x_x
    @mangalores-x_x 4 роки тому +2

    To be fair, we Europeans killed off 40 million people in two wars at the end of it. And some of that can be traced to population pressure within the various European nations.
    So it is not like the population explosion in Europe just levelled out without any hitch.

  • @alaagamerroblox6206
    @alaagamerroblox6206 4 роки тому

    Horizon actually endgame got out and avengers won oops spoiler alert

  • @somedude5951
    @somedude5951 4 роки тому +2

    Africa has a real overpopulation problem, an acid rain was resolved by taking sulfur out of gasoline.
    Exaggerating or denying, are not the only two options to these real problems.

  • @bjarkijohannes1606
    @bjarkijohannes1606 4 роки тому +4

    Hello there

  • @vitordelima
    @vitordelima 4 роки тому +2

    So resources are infinite, arable land too, our current energy sources will last forever and we have a solid transitioning plan when they end, everybody has a job in the industrialized world, automation will keep creating more jobs, we never overconcentrate populations around tiny areas, the environmental degradation caused is null, third world countries aren't demographic bombs, the current political, economic and social systems can guarantee stability and good living conditions for all and this is a happy land where every problem is invented by the "media".

  • @GarfieldRex
    @GarfieldRex 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks should have said "I'll wipe out half of all intelligent life", not all life (including wild and domesticated animals, plants, bacteria, fungi, etc.). Also, birth rate has to do with culture, not just economic and industrial development (as Europeans and Americans always think).

    • @sebastiangorka200
      @sebastiangorka200 4 роки тому

      everything is primarily economics
      culture and politics is part of the superstructure, while economics is the base
      they influence each other but the base is always dominant
      ancient greeks invented the steam engine thousands of years ago but it wasnt economically viable vs the dominant economic system which was slavery, so it faded into obscurity and was reserved for toys and parlor tricks until the advent of capitalism where you had workers concentrated in one place and free enough to be trusted and educated enough to build and operate it

  • @miguelcavenecia1878
    @miguelcavenecia1878 4 роки тому

    Ever heard of global warning ?

    • @josephfilm73
      @josephfilm73 4 роки тому +1

      No they don't believe in that. If they tell enough lies maybe it will go away. Doesn't even need to happen. If the insect population dies off, we die off.

  • @leotard2536
    @leotard2536 4 роки тому

    Oil is not sustainable. But as it becomes too expensive, the free market (as long as it remains free of monopoly) will move towards "greener" alternatives.

  • @importantname
    @importantname 3 роки тому

    why are so many humans constantly leaving Africa?

    • @khaccanhle1930
      @khaccanhle1930 3 роки тому

      Poor economy because of corrupt governments because of backward cultures based on s lack of clear thinking. Ideas have consequences.

  • @orphidian11
    @orphidian11 3 роки тому +1

    12:20 YES

  • @ayursunzheev7499
    @ayursunzheev7499 4 роки тому

    Русский человек коммунистом быть не перестанет.

  • @PETERLINNAH
    @PETERLINNAH 4 роки тому +1

    I've been telling people this for years. Just take a plane trip somewhere -- anywhere -- and pick a window seat. Spend some time looking out at the Earth below. What do you see? People? No. You see land, water, farms, roads, etc. You my see EVIDENCE of people -- cars on the road with one or perhaps two people in each one. You see houses, with perhaps two or three people inside each. But you do not see crowds of people standing shoulder to shoulder, crowded for space and starving. Even looking down at big cities you see big buildings and rivers and roads, bridges, and cars -- again, evidence of people, but not masses of bodies fighting for survival. Anyone who talks of overpopulation or population control (Chinese communists for example) are simply nut-cases with no facts or powers of observation.

    • @frankwhite5862
      @frankwhite5862 4 роки тому

      Overpopulation is a resource issue not a space issue. No one ever said we don’t have enough SPACE for more people. Do we have enough fish (over fishing is a problem), do we have enough jobs ( especially now that automation is becoming more prevalent). How much of the natural environment to we have to demolish to build more shopping malls and apartment complexes completely decimating natural environments.
      Again space is not the issue. Why are there millions of people NOT living in Antarctica or the Sahara Dessert with all that space? Because there are no resources there to support and sustain that population level. Critical thinking is crucial when discussing the subject of overpopulation but very few people exercise this ability.

  • @madmax1717
    @madmax1717 4 роки тому +2

    The amazon forest will disappear if we increase the population to 10 billion, and then we will disappear.

  • @MrInsanityplea
    @MrInsanityplea 4 роки тому +2

    Thanos was actually right, he should have aimed for 90% reduction though.

  • @typhonplume9374
    @typhonplume9374 3 роки тому

    Overpopulation problems are not real.... current situations with housing, food, and such in India and some area of China have disagreed with that mind set for 20+ years now. It's also public knowledge.

  • @EspHack
    @EspHack 4 роки тому

    until we make space colonization a thing, overpopulation is a real problem, there's no physical law dictating that human tech progress will continue to improve to support whatever population growth we have indefinitely, and a solar flare could largely wipe that out in a second
    thanos isnt wrong or right, he's just trying to do in a matter of seconds, what would normally take generations to happen anyway, be it cutting population in half, or making resources twice as effective

  • @mrashok999333
    @mrashok999333 4 роки тому +1

    You still proved Thanos is right.
    You said if resources depleted in planet earth we will search in other planets or even in other solar system.
    What if others living there and you war with them? What if resources depleted there you find another after? At one point this race will to end. That is when Thanos comes into picture.
    I always see people imagining everything with their life time in perspective. In reality we are not even a dot in time line of the universe already, then imagine the future.
    In your life time the resources we have won't deplete, but can you guarantee in future we will not have such problem?
    Thano argument is rather taking war which has very terrific face we choose people from real random. You have to face a war to see how bad it is than killing half the population painlessly.

  • @jakethesnake2x
    @jakethesnake2x 4 роки тому +3

    Your very optimistic view of overpopulation solving itself out is very naive, and wrongly bases it self on the fact that overpopulation in general on the planet will solve it self like the way it did in Western Europe 100 years ago. Overpopulation is a real problem, and it is the driving force behind alot of other problems facing the human race today.

  • @robbieshand6139
    @robbieshand6139 4 роки тому +1

    Here's a counter argument (perhaps I should make a video myself): overpopulation is a very real problem and arguably the biggest contributing factor to climate change, environmental destruction and the poisoning and depletion of the oceans and their wildlife. Like you point out in your video, it took humans 10,000 years to reach 1 Bn ppl, but only 100 years to reach 2 Bn, then 50 to reach 4 Bn and we are now adding around a billion more mouths to feed every decade. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that that level of growth is simply not sustainable. One of the most startling facts to illustrate how much we have multiplied is this - one eighth of *all the humans who have ever lived* are alive today. And as we continue to multiply like locusts we drive all other species back into ever-decreasing pockets of land until eventually they go extinct. We are currently in the middle of another mass extinction event, which we have caused. Since 1960 we have wiped out 2 thirds of all wildlife and a huge proportion of plant life too. Insect populations have plummeted and insects are essential for the continued survival of all plant and animal life. If we continue as we are, the ecosystems on which we depends for our food will start to collapse long before the human population gets the chance to stabilise by the middle of the 22nd century.
    That's why everyone should be making a voluntary choice to stop having children. There is no single action a person can take that is more destructive to the environment than having a child because of all the resources required to support our lifestyles. Everything from the coal burned to keep us warm, to the gas burned to cook our food, to the uranium burned to power our devices, to the rare earth metals used to create the electronics in them, to the oil used to make the plastic in our packaging, which then gets dumped in the oceans where it poisons *everything* (including ourselves as we then eat the contaminated seafood). Don't have children and you've already contributed far more to the green cause than any amount of recycling will ever do. Otherwise, let's get Thanos back because humans are a plague.

    • @mothman411
      @mothman411 4 роки тому +1

      To my mind the answer is the emancipation of women in the third/developing world. Give them control over their reproductive cycles and the problem goes a long way toward being solved.

    • @RobertoGonzalez-my8um
      @RobertoGonzalez-my8um 3 роки тому

      What are a bunch of old people going to do with no young people to take care of them...

  • @PETERLINNAH
    @PETERLINNAH 4 роки тому +1

    I've been telling people this for years. Population is NOT a problem. I have flown over many countries and every time I do I marvel at the open spaces. Even when I fly over big cities all I see is roads, some cars, trees, and buildings. Not people.

  • @robbieshand6139
    @robbieshand6139 4 роки тому

    Thanos did nothing wrong!