I think it's pretty clear cut. If you're ok with charging your watch once a week and want a gorgeous screen then the Epix is the obvious choice. If you need really long battery life with solar charging because you go on tours for days/weeks at a time or if you don't like amoled screens, then stick with the fenix. Alternatively you can also take a small power bank with you on long tours. A small 5000mAh one will weight 90g and be able to charge your phone once or twice or your watch 10+ times. If you're out this long you need something like this as a back up for safety anyway. I'll add that the feedback on fast charge on the epix has been very good. Plug it in 15min everyday when you shower and you'll never have to charge it for real. Check for deals in general. Right now the epix 2 steel is 650 chf in Switzerland for instance (1:1 with $) and the fenix 7 is below 600 even. The 7X and the sapphire versions remained unaffected by price reduction here ( at 850-1000) and are not worth the money at this point imo.
Actually...it isn't so clear cut at all! Yes, the AMOLED will look great indoors and for the few Seconds it is actually on, but the Fenix can and will display the entire watchface with all stats on screen all the time, and it looks fantastic outside in the sunlight and is still well readable in moderate indoor lighting without turning on the backlight. On a Phone, I would not consider a MIPS Display, but on a watch it is the only viable option for me, because I don't like wearing a black circle/rectangle on my wrist for 99% of the time.
I upgraded from the fenix 6X to the Epix 2 and got 8 days out of the battery, including 1.5 to 2 hours of a mix of indoor and GPS activities per day, this was with screen off, gesture on, GPS only, maps in dark mode. The Epix screen is gorgeous to look at, very sharp, hi res and with lots of detail. However I felt like whenever I touched it I was using up more battery with the screen on. I decided to return it and got the fenix 7X SS instead. After 1 week I am at just over 50% doing the same activities, so essentially double the battery. The 7X screen is crisper and has better contrast than my 6X had, but not as nice as the Epix screen of course. But I am happier with the 7X SS not having to think about battery life, and the screen being slightly larger makes it easier to read with larger fonts and to poke at to manipulate the map screen.
which fonts are you talking about? Some reviewer made an article a while ago showing that all brands use the same fonts on all watch sizes. You won't read text and numbers better on a bigger screen but you'll be able to display more data fields. The advantage is clearer on maps, you just see more of it at a certain zoom level. Unless this changed in the past year or so. Interesting fact for people upgrading, the screen on a fenix 7/epix 2 is larger than the one on a 5X plus. So you can go down one watch/bezel size and still go up 0.1 inch in screen.
There's no doubt about it that the Epix doesn't have the battery life that the Fenix has. I upgraded from a Fenix 5X Plus to the Epix 2. It's not apples to apples because although the watch case is smaller, the screen size is larger on the Epix - that combined with the brightness lets my struggling eyes still make use of the info on the screen. On the Fenix I could only see the time - all of the other fields were to small and dim for me to be able to read. With the Epix, I have it in gesture mode instead of always on, and I also have do not disturb on during my normal sleeping hours. I'm not working out as much as I should be, but with normal daily use and a workout here and there I'm getting 15-ish days of battery life. That's more than enough for me. I'm happy that I purchased this watch....and golf season hasn't even started yet. This is likely the best golf watch on the market (same features as the Marq Golfer without the ceramic bezel and luxury upgrades).
@@chrisgilligan4968 Well said my friend, I don’t know how that dude had it on wrist motion to wake and only lasted 8 days. Maybe he used the watch the whole day and night idk. I agree though, I can’t have a watch that is both smart and good for tracking my performance with a dim screen and the colors are so dull. I will never turn back to dim screens. Epix Gen 2 is the future of Garmin.
I'll be upgrading from a Samsung Galaxy watch 4 which barely manages 24 hours out of a full charge, so to get 8 days out of it will be quite the upgrade for me! 😂
I agree. It was more a comparison than a you should get the Epix. Also I watched to see why you would NOT get the Epix and this was really more about why you would get it.
I think you have missed the point, the Fenix 7 IS the only reason why you shouldn’t get the Epix with all the reasons the Fenix 7 is better than it. If those things aren’t important to you then you should just get the Epix. If you wanted a review of the Epix then watch the Epix review.
I went for the fenix because I am just very pleased by the look of a transreflective display, expecially in the full sun. It's just more suitable for a watch in my opinion. Epix just feels like strapping a Christmas tree to your wrist and I don't like it.
I completely agree with the fact a 42mm Epix would be a no brainer! Especially with the crisp display the Epix offers it would be very easy to see the details even on a smaller 42mm display.
Maybe it’s a battery life thing, not enough room for a battery big enough. That said I almost always want the smaller version of things. iPhone mini user.
Currently scouring all the reviews trying to decide between the Fenix 7 and Epix. My main concern is that, over time, battery performance will drop and this will impact the Epix in a big way as its already quite short. Im swaying towards F7 SS because it will be my main watch for several years to come and i don't want to be worrying about battery drain. The MIP display on my previous Forerunners has been absolutely fine
Already quite short?? How long do you need a watch to last between charges? I mean if you're using the GPS for an activity every single day then ya you might be charging it once every 8-10 days or so. I find using it mostly as a watch - with a few activities, I am getting about 14 days out of each charge. With how quickly it charges, it has never been an issue for me!!
@@chrisgilligan4968 Jocky is talking about battery degradation OVER TIME. Remember: these devices have limited battery cycles, and they start to degrade. Cheers.
nice video, the main draw for the Fenix 7x SS or Tactix 7 for me is battery life and solar while thru hiking. Currently planning a 30 day thru hike, will be in the sun all day every day on the trail. Not having to worry about charging it is the strongest point. If i were getting a smart watch to workout daily/weekend use i would strongly consider the Epix, the screen is beautiful.
Yeah totally agree although the battery is good compared to other smart watches, it’s no comparison with Fenix etc. 30 day hike sounds cool, I’d love to do something like that.
The fenix 7x sapphire solar watch has a major drawback, the screen in the menu as well as the messages that arrive when the phone is connected to the watch are set to black background and pale blue text (due to the poor finish of the sapphire glass, there is no white color, but pale blue color) and that text is hard to read. There is no option like on older models of garmin watches to change the background to be white or pale gray and the text to be black, which would be more legible. (Inverter color or display color setting). As soon as you sweat a little around your eyes during activities, you can't see clearly, or if you have a smaller (+ eye diopter) for reading, which most people over 40 have the same problem, you strain to read what is written on the screen. Otherwise, the watch is excellently made, but this problem with the screen and the lack of an option to set the background to be white or gray and the text to be black, which is more pleasant and legible for the eye, makes the garmin fenix 7x sapphire solar watch unusable for many people and if not documents in some software update the watch is a complete and utter failure. I found a lot of the same comments in several forums which says that the problem is not innocuous.
Considering these two at the moment. I do like the battery life and ‘always-on’ of the 7x, but using the maps for Mountain Biking might be way better on the Epix. How is visibility on the Epix outside, heard the white on black display may not be as clear?
Nice review; keep it up! One small opinion about aesthetics - on the transition pages, the beep beep swoosh sound happens twice. It's great the first time, and it make the point. The second time when the thing "swipes" left is redundant and unnecessary. I would nix that time of playing the sound.
Dont forget that garmin refuses to do any repairs so they will offer you 40% on the same model (which is 20% compared to price in other stores). In that moment, it could be 5 year old model. My garmin stopped working few months after guarantee expired and they offered me that 20% discount on 3 year old model and told me thats the only thing they can do. Too bad
The Epix is fantastic...love it. I would have been disappointed if I got the Fenix equivalent size. Only potential option for me in hindsight would have been the Fenix 7X for flashlight. I havent worn my Submariner since I got the Epix... not once
I have a small wrist. If there would be an Epix S, I would definitely go for it. Maybe they will bring this in a years time to market, however I will not wait for it.
I got the Fenix 7 and didn't see much point in the epix given the price. Confused by the title of the video. Thought you would say why you actually prefer the fenix and then the conclusion is you don't :P
What I’m saying is that the Fenix 7 would be the only reason why you wouldn’t get the the Epix. i.e if you’re not bothered about the screen, don’t want to pay the extra and want better battery life, you would get the Fenix 7. I would still choose the Epix, but for you it’s the Fenix. Point being they are effectively the same watch and both very good.
Would have liked to have seen you put both watches in direct sunlight outside. Clearly the Epix is much brighter and would make all the difference for me if I were considieringa smartwatch for running....or toehrwise. Would be a bummer to spend $900 only to f dind out you can't see the screen in sunlight....
Hi! I would like to congratulate you for the excellent video. I am researching 2 watch models just for running. If money was no object, would you go for the Garmin 255 or the Garmin phoenix 7? Best regards alexander
Thanks Honestly that is a hard one. I am still waiting on a 255 sample so not too sure how it compares. For me though I like a smaller watch and I think the P7 only comes big. And as a long time 245 user I’m likely to go 255 for what it’s worth. Also I think it’s cheaper and I’d more than enough for running.
Hi Chris. Watched this and your Epix 2 review. Very, very, well presented reviews and I DO get the title, just so confused as what to do. I'm essentially buying a Garmin to track sports. I often cycle to work, walk A LOT and want to really look at hiking now, hopefully more swimming. The hiking may defo use GPS and the cycling will to better track stats. I do want this mainly as a fitness watch though. The Epix is a gorgeous screen though but not sure if charging every 5/6 days will be tiresome. But I am not an ultra marathon runner or doing multi-day sport events. These watches are so expensive though and want it to last. One big worry with the Epix is if you use the GPS off and on during the week and already maybe charging every 5/6 days what will the battery be like in 2/3 years? The Fenix is so far ahead in battery it is likely to still be going strong. But at the price it is also nice to have a super nice screen. I know your happy with the battery of the Epix. Do you feel it's a clear winner and the screen is so good it makes up for the battery's shortcomings? I do appreciate good graphics too and the high resolution will make the screen easier to read and got to the point of needing reading glasses and also thing the Epix looks gorgeous (although liking the true always on of the Fenix and not having to worry about disabling half the features to keep the battery and not worrying about draining it by actually using it!). Defo giving both your videos the thumbs up. Would be good to have your advice on this. Also, very happy for anyone else comments. Going to post this in your other video as well if that's okay to try and get some quick feedback as ordered both with the sales but have to send one back but don't want to open them as can't afford them both so easier to return new. Thanks for your great reviews, you did some nice camera work on the Fenix, but making it even harder for me 😛.
Hey Pete which one did you keep in the end ? I’m in the exact same situation now today a year later lol. It would be good to get your feedback on having both watches ?
You didn’t even mention the sunlight readability issue. Yeah the Epix display is bright but it is still hard to see in bright sunlight. I know for me and a lot of others, being able to get all the information you need from a quick glance at the watch face is very important. I often mount my Fenix 7 to my bike handlebars for navigation and don’t have the ability to shade the display with my hand just to see the map. I constantly think about how nice it would be to have that crisp display with all the nice colors but it’s not worth it to have a display that fights the sun instead of uses it to be more readable.
I have to disagree regarding sunlight readability issue. I have a Epix 2 sapphire and vivoactive 4 . I can see much more on a sunny day than on my vivoactive 4. I really don’t understand when people say that. Ok you may prefer the Fenix but definitely I wouldn’t say it’s hard to see in bright sunlight on the Epix 2. Thanks.
@@dariuszlis4412 I agree. The amoled is great in sunlight. I don’t get why people think it isn’t? I’ve had all MIP displays then recently the Epix and was pleasantly surprised how good it is in direct sunlight. It’s great
Because of the title of this video, I came here to see what was that reason. However, the video starts with explaining characteristics, which we all already know by heart. I can read those specs on the manufacturer's website. I need your opinion. Not a spec bedtime reading.
He said he’d go with the fenix 7s because he has small wrists and the epix is too large for his taste, he just wished the epix would come in a smaller size because he likes the screen, all opinions, btw I didn’t know all the info and specs for these watches before this video so I wouldn’t assume everyone does
If I don’t put the specs in people say it’s not detailed enough, if I do then you don’t want them because they are on the website. The video is a review so has both opinion and features/ specs. Not everyone wants the same thing. I started making videos because I couldn’t find reviews as detailed as I wanted them. Try making some yourself and see what feedback you get.
Thank you. You’re right, the video is a mix of features, specs and opinions. Not everyone wants to study the manufacturers website and watch an opinion piece.
Great video but not agree with the title. If only it was "the reason why you should get the epix over the fenix" because at the end you prefer the epix because of better screen. Thx
The video is a review of the Fenix and the Fenix is the one reason not to get the Epix, hence the title. You’re not the only person to disagree with the title but I stand by it.
Depends on what’s most important to you. Personally I would go Epix, battery is plenty for me and has pretty much everything the Fenix has but with a better screen.
The Fenix screen is superior if you want a watch that looks more like a watch than a computer. And Amoled screens on watches give some of us battery anxiety.
Another thing that you didn't mention - which I've yet to see any review mention - is that the Fenix is compatible with Garmin's Xero scopes for crossbows whereas the Epix is not compatible with those. Of course, this is pretty much only relevant to hunters.
It’s hard to compare them because they are completely different watches that focus on completely different things. I had both. Apple Watch needed to be charged for me twice a day. Once in the morning when I woke up, and again before bed. Better for smart Watch stuff and integrates amazingly with IOS. Garmins battery is better. Workout and Activities is better. Has a free Garmin coach, which isn’t bad. Still includes some smart Watch features but doesn’t focus on those features. WAY more durable and better looking in my opinion. Sold the Apple Watch and haven’t missed it. At all. Ever.
As I said in the video I haven’t used an Apple Watch for any length of time, but I would agree with @Joshua Phillips. I would say the Garmin’s are sports watches with smart watch features and the Apple Watch is a smart watch with sports features. Plus battery life is no comparison and Garmin devices are platform agnostic.
Solar capability on Garmin watches is overrated in my opinion. They certainly do not perform enough to justify the price increase. Considering battery life between the Fenix and Epic lines is a significant issue, but I wouldn't opt for the Fenix 7 for solar capability alone.
Should say Epix2 Sapphire is the best one to get today, long Tactix fan and have been on Fenix series from day one. So got fenix 7x and Tactix Pro to compare to my epix2 sapphire. As I always use my Tactix as daily I bought the epix 2 to check it out but after use it's hard going back to old display.😁 IF you don't train Long distance and need battery...then go fenix/Tactix.
That’s the one thing that the Epix just can’t compete on is the battery life, although I think it’s pretty good. Difficult to go back to a MIP display once you’ve had an AMOLED though.
Awesome video - Thank you ! Caution : AMOLED displays have inherent and well know problems ; screen degradation, burn in, pixel loss etc. It may look bright and pretty but roll your dice in terms of screen integrity and longevity ! That pushed me to wanting a Fenix7, but I promptly discovered the list of problems caused by their recent software update, 'version 9.36'. Garmin are aware of these problems but don't have solutions yet ! Great watches but do your homework before spending your hard earned coin.
Thanks. That’s fair comment, we have no idea how the screens will hold up over time. At time of review I hadn’t experienced any of the bugs you referenced so hard to comment, but I’m well aware how frustrating it is to have a Garmin bug that isn’t fixed in a timely manner. Just go looks at my 245 review!
comon, fenix start at 500 usd FOR THE MODEL NO SOLAR NO SAPHIRE, for the saphire not solar 47 version the price is the same than epix. with the fenix u will get a better battery, with the epic a better screen luminosity.
@jamesconors88 well now I have a the epix pro Gen 2 and I absolutely love it man I get about 16 days battery which I'm Def enough for me ans no issues with mine at all
@@Dannyv1987 so I’ve got small wrist so have a choice between the 42mm epix gen 2 which is 4days (AoD) vs 11days on the fenix 7s pro always on display . So the battery is abit more of an issue . I currently have an Apple Watch and absolutely hate charging it hense the switch. I’m wondering do I do the guesture mode on the epix to get up to 10 days or will I go safe with the fenix 7 pro solar but then I can see myself getting fomo over that god damn beautiful amoled display lol. You see my predicament. Do you get compliments on the epix ? Anything you prefer on the epix having had the fenix 7 and could you ever go back . I Appreaciate the response
@jamesconors88 yes get compliments all the time I had the Fenix 7x pro but took it back cuase I love thr epix screen alot and 16 days of battery life is good for me it's Def a tough choice
Greta job, thanks. Both watches feel a little over done. Of the 50 or so activities I have never ever done 30 of them, it makes me feel perhaps I'm wasting my life. I'm shocked that no one reviews the "Going Fishing" activity, probably not enough sweating or the fish feel very safe if they see a garmin watch
@@chrisguess hımm, true. Yet one more time and still unrelated. Apples and oranges made a new film. 😊I understand you though in the end kindda it is your persona I believe. Thanks.
Epix 2 beats the 7x by a long shot the 7x and other models have that ugly hard to read screen where the epix screen is so nice and good for seeing maps.
Fenix 7 looks like a $ 10 dollar watch from walmart 😁 epix looks like a million dollar watch 🙂 thats why i return my fenix 7, and when i go to the movies nobody is watching the movie , everybody is looking at my epix 2🙃
@@toshman696969 rolex 🤔 Are you nuts !! 🙄 rolex is not a smart watch rolex is a tasteless analog watch only goofys spend more than $5.000 in a tasteless analog watch 🤭
Can anybody please cut to the chase and tell me the difference in 1 word lol. I don't want to spend 14 minutes of my life, hearing the same shit over and over again.
Feel free to do your own research if you feel reviewer’s aren’t giving you the information you need. That’s how I came to making videos. You may find it’s difficult to please all of the people all of the time.
I think it's pretty clear cut. If you're ok with charging your watch once a week and want a gorgeous screen then the Epix is the obvious choice. If you need really long battery life with solar charging because you go on tours for days/weeks at a time or if you don't like amoled screens, then stick with the fenix.
Alternatively you can also take a small power bank with you on long tours. A small 5000mAh one will weight 90g and be able to charge your phone once or twice or your watch 10+ times. If you're out this long you need something like this as a back up for safety anyway.
I'll add that the feedback on fast charge on the epix has been very good. Plug it in 15min everyday when you shower and you'll never have to charge it for real.
Check for deals in general. Right now the epix 2 steel is 650 chf in Switzerland for instance (1:1 with $) and the fenix 7 is below 600 even. The 7X and the sapphire versions remained unaffected by price reduction here ( at 850-1000) and are not worth the money at this point imo.
Actually...it isn't so clear cut at all!
Yes, the AMOLED will look great indoors and for the few Seconds it is actually on, but the Fenix can and will display the entire watchface with all stats on screen all the time, and it looks fantastic outside in the sunlight and is still well readable in moderate indoor lighting without turning on the backlight.
On a Phone, I would not consider a MIPS Display, but on a watch it is the only viable option for me, because I don't like wearing a black circle/rectangle on my wrist for 99% of the time.
@@rolandrohde It's a personal preference really. For my eyes is the Fenix way too dull to appreciate. The Epix is easier for me to read.
@Ralph Reilly I completely agree. For my needs, however, the Epix (Gen 2) 11 day battery charge is more than enough.
I upgraded from the fenix 6X to the Epix 2 and got 8 days out of the battery, including 1.5 to 2 hours of a mix of indoor and GPS activities per day, this was with screen off, gesture on, GPS only, maps in dark mode.
The Epix screen is gorgeous to look at, very sharp, hi res and with lots of detail.
However I felt like whenever I touched it I was using up more battery with the screen on.
I decided to return it and got the fenix 7X SS instead.
After 1 week I am at just over 50% doing the same activities, so essentially double the battery.
The 7X screen is crisper and has better contrast than my 6X had, but not as nice as the Epix screen of course.
But I am happier with the 7X SS not having to think about battery life, and the screen being slightly larger makes it easier to read with larger fonts and to poke at to manipulate the map screen.
which fonts are you talking about? Some reviewer made an article a while ago showing that all brands use the same fonts on all watch sizes. You won't read text and numbers better on a bigger screen but you'll be able to display more data fields. The advantage is clearer on maps, you just see more of it at a certain zoom level. Unless this changed in the past year or so.
Interesting fact for people upgrading, the screen on a fenix 7/epix 2 is larger than the one on a 5X plus. So you can go down one watch/bezel size and still go up 0.1 inch in screen.
There's no doubt about it that the Epix doesn't have the battery life that the Fenix has. I upgraded from a Fenix 5X Plus to the Epix 2. It's not apples to apples because although the watch case is smaller, the screen size is larger on the Epix - that combined with the brightness lets my struggling eyes still make use of the info on the screen. On the Fenix I could only see the time - all of the other fields were to small and dim for me to be able to read. With the Epix, I have it in gesture mode instead of always on, and I also have do not disturb on during my normal sleeping hours. I'm not working out as much as I should be, but with normal daily use and a workout here and there I'm getting 15-ish days of battery life. That's more than enough for me. I'm happy that I purchased this watch....and golf season hasn't even started yet. This is likely the best golf watch on the market (same features as the Marq Golfer without the ceramic bezel and luxury upgrades).
@@chrisgilligan4968 Well said my friend, I don’t know how that dude had it on wrist motion to wake and only lasted 8 days. Maybe he used the watch the whole day and night idk. I agree though, I can’t have a watch that is both smart and good for tracking my performance with a dim screen and the colors are so dull. I will never turn back to dim screens. Epix Gen 2 is the future of Garmin.
I'll be upgrading from a Samsung Galaxy watch 4 which barely manages 24 hours out of a full charge, so to get 8 days out of it will be quite the upgrade for me! 😂
The title of the video is misleading! This video is simply a comparsion between the fenix and epix.
Not sure I agree, the Epix is the reason not to get the Fenix. I thought that was pretty clear 🤷♂️
@@chrisguess it’s clickbait, it’s really just a comparison
I agree. It was more a comparison than a you should get the Epix. Also I watched to see why you would NOT get the Epix and this was really more about why you would get it.
@@chrisguess your titls says the exact opposite...
THE EXACT OPPOSITE
I think you have missed the point, the Fenix 7 IS the only reason why you shouldn’t get the Epix with all the reasons the Fenix 7 is better than it. If those things aren’t important to you then you should just get the Epix. If you wanted a review of the Epix then watch the Epix review.
I went for the fenix because I am just very pleased by the look of a transreflective display, expecially in the full sun. It's just more suitable for a watch in my opinion. Epix just feels like strapping a Christmas tree to your wrist and I don't like it.
Christmas tree lol
I completely agree with the fact a 42mm Epix would be a no brainer! Especially with the crisp display the Epix offers it would be very easy to see the details even on a smaller 42mm display.
Maybe it’s a battery life thing, not enough room for a battery big enough. That said I almost always want the smaller version of things. iPhone mini user.
Currently scouring all the reviews trying to decide between the Fenix 7 and Epix. My main concern is that, over time, battery performance will drop and this will impact the Epix in a big way as its already quite short. Im swaying towards F7 SS because it will be my main watch for several years to come and i don't want to be worrying about battery drain. The MIP display on my previous Forerunners has been absolutely fine
Already quite short?? How long do you need a watch to last between charges? I mean if you're using the GPS for an activity every single day then ya you might be charging it once every 8-10 days or so. I find using it mostly as a watch - with a few activities, I am getting about 14 days out of each charge. With how quickly it charges, it has never been an issue for me!!
@@chrisgilligan4968 Jocky is talking about battery degradation OVER TIME. Remember: these devices have limited battery cycles, and they start to degrade. Cheers.
nice video, the main draw for the Fenix 7x SS or Tactix 7 for me is battery life and solar while thru hiking. Currently planning a 30 day thru hike, will be in the sun all day every day on the trail. Not having to worry about charging it is the strongest point. If i were getting a smart watch to workout daily/weekend use i would strongly consider the Epix, the screen is beautiful.
Yeah totally agree although the battery is good compared to other smart watches, it’s no comparison with Fenix etc. 30 day hike sounds cool, I’d love to do something like that.
@@chrisguess hi iM wondering if your wearing the 7s in the video or just the 7. My wrist size is the same as yours so...
I’m wearing the 7
Сложность в том, что в 7x нет именно зарядки от солнечной панели. Просто идёт питание от солнца, но часы не заряжаются
I just bought the 6s Garmin sapphire refurbished love it! Thx for the great video!
Sweet, you’re welcome.
The fenix 7x sapphire solar watch has a major drawback, the screen in the menu as well as the messages that arrive when the phone is connected to the watch are set to black background and pale blue text (due to the poor finish of the sapphire glass, there is no white color, but pale blue color) and that text is hard to read. There is no option like on older models of garmin watches to change the background to be white or pale gray and the text to be black, which would be more legible. (Inverter color or display color setting). As soon as you sweat a little around your eyes during activities, you can't see clearly, or if you have a smaller (+ eye diopter) for reading, which most people over 40 have the same problem, you strain to read what is written on the screen. Otherwise, the watch is excellently made, but this problem with the screen and the lack of an option to set the background to be white or gray and the text to be black, which is more pleasant and legible for the eye, makes the garmin fenix 7x sapphire solar watch unusable for many people and if not documents in some software update the watch is a complete and utter failure. I found a lot of the same comments in several forums which says that the problem is not innocuous.
Considering these two at the moment. I do like the battery life and ‘always-on’ of the 7x, but using the maps for Mountain Biking might be way better on the Epix. How is visibility on the Epix outside, heard the white on black display may not be as clear?
The epix screen is super bright and readable outside.
If you want a flashlight then go for the larger 7X. The LED light on that is bright.
Nice review; keep it up! One small opinion about aesthetics - on the transition pages, the beep beep swoosh sound happens twice. It's great the first time, and it make the point. The second time when the thing "swipes" left is redundant and unnecessary. I would nix that time of playing the sound.
Fair point, I’ve now got rid in new videos.
Dont forget that garmin refuses to do any repairs so they will offer you 40% on the same model (which is 20% compared to price in other stores). In that moment, it could be 5 year old model. My garmin stopped working few months after guarantee expired and they offered me that 20% discount on 3 year old model and told me thats the only thing they can do. Too bad
Really?? I was comparing getting an epix to an Apple Watch but that’s a bit concerning what you pointed out
i got the Epic Gen 2, great solid watch Whitestone casing absolutely brilliant. great battery life for most activities
I agree just a solid all rounder, but the price isn’t for everyone.
How has the charging been
The Epix is fantastic...love it. I would have been disappointed if I got the Fenix equivalent size. Only potential option for me in hindsight would have been the Fenix 7X for flashlight. I havent worn my Submariner since I got the Epix... not once
I think when you put them side by side the Epix is just far more compelling. I think I would be happy to compromise on the flashlight.
There is a flashlight on the Epix G2. Push the light button twice in quick succession. Voila.
Hi, good review, only one thing you didn't mention, the Fenix7 big version has a flashlight.
I only had the 42mm on test so tried not to go too much into the features of the other sizes or models X, S whatever, but fair point.
Anyone know if you would be able to download audio books???
Yes you can
I have a small wrist. If there would be an Epix S, I would definitely go for it. Maybe they will bring this in a years time to market, however I will not wait for it.
Yeah I would like to see a smaller version.
What about Audible, has epix gen 2 Audible?
Not sure to be honest, although it does do prime music, so I guess maybe audible would work.
I got the Fenix 7 and didn't see much point in the epix given the price. Confused by the title of the video. Thought you would say why you actually prefer the fenix and then the conclusion is you don't :P
What I’m saying is that the Fenix 7 would be the only reason why you wouldn’t get the the Epix. i.e if you’re not bothered about the screen, don’t want to pay the extra and want better battery life, you would get the Fenix 7. I would still choose the Epix, but for you it’s the Fenix. Point being they are effectively the same watch and both very good.
Would have liked to have seen you put both watches in direct sunlight outside. Clearly the Epix is much brighter and would make all the difference for me if I were considieringa smartwatch for running....or toehrwise. Would be a bummer to spend $900 only to f dind out you can't see the screen in sunlight....
I own the Epix and I can tell you that you can see it just fine in direct sunlight when the backlight is on.
I did do it just didn’t have the shot in the video, hence just telling you. Some times it’s difficult to include footage for everything.
Thanks for the confirmation.
Hi!
I would like to congratulate you for the excellent video.
I am researching 2 watch models just for running.
If money was no object, would you go for the Garmin 255 or the Garmin phoenix 7?
Best regards
alexander
Thanks
Honestly that is a hard one. I am still waiting on a 255 sample so not too sure how it compares. For me though I like a smaller watch and I think the P7 only comes big. And as a long time 245 user I’m likely to go 255 for what it’s worth. Also I think it’s cheaper and I’d more than enough for running.
Brilliant video! So informative and straight to the point, love it
Thank you.
Make sure the ecg works in your region...
Great review
Thanks
Hi Chris.
Watched this and your Epix 2 review. Very, very, well presented reviews and I DO get the title, just so confused as what to do.
I'm essentially buying a Garmin to track sports. I often cycle to work, walk A LOT and want to really look at hiking now, hopefully more swimming. The hiking may defo use GPS and the cycling will to better track stats. I do want this mainly as a fitness watch though.
The Epix is a gorgeous screen though but not sure if charging every 5/6 days will be tiresome. But I am not an ultra marathon runner or doing multi-day sport events. These watches are so expensive though and want it to last. One big worry with the Epix is if you use the GPS off and on during the week and already maybe charging every 5/6 days what will the battery be like in 2/3 years? The Fenix is so far ahead in battery it is likely to still be going strong. But at the price it is also nice to have a super nice screen.
I know your happy with the battery of the Epix. Do you feel it's a clear winner and the screen is so good it makes up for the battery's shortcomings? I do appreciate good graphics too and the high resolution will make the screen easier to read and got to the point of needing reading glasses and also thing the Epix looks gorgeous (although liking the true always on of the Fenix and not having to worry about disabling half the features to keep the battery and not worrying about draining it by actually using it!).
Defo giving both your videos the thumbs up. Would be good to have your advice on this. Also, very happy for anyone else comments. Going to post this in your other video as well if that's okay to try and get some quick feedback as ordered both with the sales but have to send one back but don't want to open them as can't afford them both so easier to return new.
Thanks for your great reviews, you did some nice camera work on the Fenix, but making it even harder for me
😛.
See response on the other video, if it’s not too late.
Hey Pete which one did you keep in the end ? I’m in the exact same situation now today a year later lol. It would be good to get your feedback on having both watches ?
Best and most accurate for indoor pool?
I’m not a swimmer so couldn’t tell you, sorry.
You didn’t even mention the sunlight readability issue. Yeah the Epix display is bright but it is still hard to see in bright sunlight. I know for me and a lot of others, being able to get all the information you need from a quick glance at the watch face is very important. I often mount my Fenix 7 to my bike handlebars for navigation and don’t have the ability to shade the display with my hand just to see the map. I constantly think about how nice it would be to have that crisp display with all the nice colors but it’s not worth it to have a display that fights the sun instead of uses it to be more readable.
I have to disagree regarding sunlight readability issue. I have a Epix 2 sapphire and vivoactive 4 . I can see much more on a sunny day than on my vivoactive 4. I really don’t understand when people say that. Ok you may prefer the Fenix but definitely I wouldn’t say it’s hard to see in bright sunlight on the Epix 2. Thanks.
@@dariuszlis4412 I agree. The amoled is great in sunlight. I don’t get why people think it isn’t? I’ve had all MIP displays then recently the Epix and was pleasantly surprised how good it is in direct sunlight. It’s great
AMOLED or SOLAR?!? DAM YOU GARMIN, JUST GIVE US BOTH!!
I don’t think solar would make much of a difference to be honest.
Why don’t they make a solar version of the epix,it makes so much more sense to help with batter power
solar on amoled is hard, may be in future once technology evolvs
Honestly I don’t think it would make an appreciable difference.
Because of the title of this video, I came here to see what was that reason. However, the video starts with explaining characteristics, which we all already know by heart. I can read those specs on the manufacturer's website. I need your opinion. Not a spec bedtime reading.
He said he’d go with the fenix 7s because he has small wrists and the epix is too large for his taste, he just wished the epix would come in a smaller size because he likes the screen, all opinions, btw I didn’t know all the info and specs for these watches before this video so I wouldn’t assume everyone does
If I don’t put the specs in people say it’s not detailed enough, if I do then you don’t want them because they are on the website. The video is a review so has both opinion and features/ specs. Not everyone wants the same thing. I started making videos because I couldn’t find reviews as detailed as I wanted them. Try making some yourself and see what feedback you get.
Thank you. You’re right, the video is a mix of features, specs and opinions. Not everyone wants to study the manufacturers website and watch an opinion piece.
Great video but not agree with the title. If only it was "the reason why you should get the epix over the fenix" because at the end you prefer the epix because of better screen. Thx
The video is a review of the Fenix and the Fenix is the one reason not to get the Epix, hence the title. You’re not the only person to disagree with the title but I stand by it.
I have tactix 7 pro ballistic edition
I hope you review or compare tactix with its light and thank you for the great explanation.
Great review... Will you do one on the fenix 7 tactics
Thanks. No plans just now, but I could 🤔
Nice Video - Just subscribed - If you had to pick one...which one would you get? I'm leaning towards the 7X sapphire because glare bothers my eyes
Thanks. I would pick the Epix honestly, but I don’t need the battery life. Either way I think you will be impressed.
I have no clear yet epics or fenix, need more help please.
Depends on what’s most important to you. Personally I would go Epix, battery is plenty for me and has pretty much everything the Fenix has but with a better screen.
Fenix 5x+ -> fenix 7x Solar Sapphire . I plan to keep it until fenix 9 and the sapphire and titanium ensure it will make it that long.
Whats your wrist size?
15.5 cm
@@chrisguess I've got the same size and thinking about getting the 7s instead of the Epix because of that.
Yeah I kinda wish they did a smaller Epix because it’s so good, but also so big.
In my opinion Is Better the Torch (on 7x) bigger battery capacity and the solar panel than a Better display
Idk if I should send my fenix 7 solar back and get the fenix 7 solar sapphire
The Fenix screen is superior if you want a watch that looks more like a watch than a computer. And Amoled screens on watches give some of us battery anxiety.
Yes that’s a fair point, transflective displays are a lot more subtle.
Thanks. Nice video but the sound animation can be a bit annoying.
Thanks. Fair comment, might be time for a change 🤔
Another thing that you didn't mention - which I've yet to see any review mention - is that the Fenix is compatible with Garmin's Xero scopes for crossbows whereas the Epix is not compatible with those. Of course, this is pretty much only relevant to hunters.
Honestly had no idea, that’s a super specific use case though. As a runner that is always my main focus, but cool to know.
When a man wears his watch on his right wrist then things are serious. Great and informative video. Well done bro 👍
It’s the only way I roll…unless I’m testing a watch then I have one on each wrist while I run 🤣
How you compare fenix 7 and epix 2 vs Apple Watch Series 5,6 or 7?
It’s hard to compare them because they are completely different watches that focus on completely different things. I had both.
Apple Watch needed to be charged for me twice a day. Once in the morning when I woke up, and again before bed.
Better for smart Watch stuff and integrates amazingly with IOS.
Garmins battery is better. Workout and Activities is better. Has a free Garmin coach, which isn’t bad. Still includes some smart Watch features but doesn’t focus on those features. WAY more durable and better looking in my opinion.
Sold the Apple Watch and haven’t missed it. At all. Ever.
As I said in the video I haven’t used an Apple Watch for any length of time, but I would agree with @Joshua Phillips. I would say the Garmin’s are sports watches with smart watch features and the Apple Watch is a smart watch with sports features. Plus battery life is no comparison and Garmin devices are platform agnostic.
Solar capability on Garmin watches is overrated in my opinion. They certainly do not perform enough to justify the price increase. Considering battery life between the Fenix and Epic lines is a significant issue, but I wouldn't opt for the Fenix 7 for solar capability alone.
Yeah I’m not sold on the solar. I think it’s in consequential to the overall battery life.
7x also has a but in flashlight...
The title is misleading
It should say: why you should buy Epix 2
The AMOLED screen is great advantage of Epic 2 over Fenix 7
Good spot, I missed the 2. Are you the only person to get it? 🤷♂️
🤔 so the solar doesn't work
It works, just not a game changer.
@@chrisguess fair enough
Unless you need maps, it's all over kill. Instinct 2 is a much better buy! Buy 955 and Instinct 2 for the price of one.
Should say Epix2 Sapphire is the best one to get today, long Tactix fan and have been on Fenix series from day one.
So got fenix 7x and Tactix Pro to compare to my epix2 sapphire.
As I always use my Tactix as daily I bought the epix 2 to check it out but after use it's hard going back to old display.😁
IF you don't train Long distance and need battery...then go fenix/Tactix.
That’s the one thing that the Epix just can’t compete on is the battery life, although I think it’s pretty good. Difficult to go back to a MIP display once you’ve had an AMOLED though.
How does your opinion on the watches hold up a year later ariozo? I’m torn between epix or fenix 7
Awesome video - Thank you !
Caution : AMOLED displays have inherent and well know problems ; screen degradation, burn in, pixel loss etc. It may look bright and pretty but roll your dice in terms of screen integrity and longevity ! That pushed me to wanting a Fenix7, but I promptly discovered the list of problems caused by their recent software update, 'version 9.36'. Garmin are aware of these problems but don't have solutions yet ! Great watches but do your homework before spending your hard earned coin.
Thanks.
That’s fair comment, we have no idea how the screens will hold up over time. At time of review I hadn’t experienced any of the bugs you referenced so hard to comment, but I’m well aware how frustrating it is to have a Garmin bug that isn’t fixed in a timely manner. Just go looks at my 245 review!
Switching from gesture mode and always on display from time to time will prevent screen burn on an Amoled screen.
comon, fenix start at 500 usd FOR THE MODEL NO SOLAR NO SAPHIRE, for the saphire not solar 47 version the price is the same than epix. with the fenix u will get a better battery, with the epic a better screen luminosity.
Built in torch? You mean I could start camp fires!
Not sure it’s that kind of torch 🤣
Well I bought the epix gen 2 first then I went ahead and bought the fenix 7 solar so now I have both lol
You’re crazy
Daniel can I ask you after a year which do you prefer I’m torn between the two watches now long battery or nice screen and bad battery
@jamesconors88 well now I have a the epix pro Gen 2 and I absolutely love it man I get about 16 days battery which I'm Def enough for me ans no issues with mine at all
@@Dannyv1987 so I’ve got small wrist so have a choice between the 42mm epix gen 2 which is 4days (AoD) vs 11days on the fenix 7s pro always on display . So the battery is abit more of an issue . I currently have an Apple Watch and absolutely hate charging it hense the switch. I’m wondering do I do the guesture mode on the epix to get up to 10 days or will I go safe with the fenix 7 pro solar but then I can see myself getting fomo over that god damn beautiful amoled display lol. You see my predicament. Do you get compliments on the epix ? Anything you prefer on the epix having had the fenix 7 and could you ever go back . I Appreaciate the response
@jamesconors88 yes get compliments all the time I had the Fenix 7x pro but took it back cuase I love thr epix screen alot and 16 days of battery life is good for me it's Def a tough choice
Greta job, thanks. Both watches feel a little over done. Of the 50 or so activities I have never ever done 30 of them, it makes me feel perhaps I'm wasting my life. I'm shocked that no one reviews the "Going Fishing" activity, probably not enough sweating or the fish feel very safe if they see a garmin watch
Never seen anybody say they have had they garmin watch for 10/20/30 years. I’ll keep my G-SHOCK….never needed all the bells n whistles why start now
Different uses I guess. I do love me a Casio.
Change your headline wastin our time with a lie.
I don’t see how it’s a lie.
@@chrisguess read the headline and watch the video afterwards you ll see man😊
I made the video, so I know.
@@chrisguess hımm, true. Yet one more time and still unrelated. Apples and oranges made a new film. 😊I understand you though in the end kindda it is your persona I believe. Thanks.
you sound EXACTLY like Russell Brand!!! HA HA HA
Not sure I do, but thanks.
Epix 2 beats the 7x by a long shot the 7x and other models have that ugly hard to read screen where the epix screen is so nice and good for seeing maps.
I wouldn’t say hard to read, but certainly the Epix screen is super nice.
I'm so sick of clickbait video titles.
The Fenix 7 is the reason! They are very closely matched. No clickbait here is says Fenix 7 Review and that’s what it is.
I love my Epix Gen 2. So, this video isn't for me.
Not to be that guy, but..."shouldn't".
Thanks I totally missed that!
@@chrisguess
No worries! I haven't seen your channel much but I know some of the clickbait content farms do it on purpose so people comment. 😜
Nope just me, one man band/ bad speller.
lol according to you sure.
Well it’s my video so yes it’s my opinion.
Fenix 7 looks like a $ 10 dollar watch from walmart 😁 epix looks like a million dollar watch 🙂 thats why i return my fenix 7, and when i go to the movies nobody is watching the movie , everybody is looking at my epix 2🙃
Even though they have the same body?
U bought a Garmin watch so you can have people look at it...if you are that shallow spend some money buy a Rolex...
@@toshman696969 rolex 🤔 Are you nuts !! 🙄 rolex is not a smart watch rolex is a tasteless analog watch only goofys spend more than $5.000 in a tasteless analog watch 🤭
Can anybody please cut to the chase and tell me the difference in 1 word lol. I don't want to spend 14 minutes of my life, hearing the same shit over and over again.
Feel free to do your own research if you feel reviewer’s aren’t giving you the information you need. That’s how I came to making videos. You may find it’s difficult to please all of the people all of the time.